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Kurtz: Some "Fox journalists" worried Beck "undermines their credibility"

March 15, 2010 5:31 am ET by Media Matters staff

From Kurtz's March 15 Washington Post column:

In just over a year, Glenn Beck's blinding burst of stardom has often seemed to overshadow the rest of Fox News.

And that may not be a good thing for the top-rated cable news channel, as many of its staffers are acutely aware.

With his celebrity fueled by a Time cover story, best-selling books, cheerleading role at protest rallies and steady stream of divisive remarks, Beck is drawing big ratings. But there is a deep split within Fox between those -- led by Chairman Roger Ailes -- who are supportive, and many journalists who are worried about the prospect that Beck is becoming the face of the network.

By calling President Obama a racist and branding progressivism a "cancer," Beck has achieved a lightning-rod status that is unusual even for the network owned by Rupert Murdoch. And that, in turn, has complicated the channel's efforts to neutralize White House criticism that Fox is not really a news organization. Beck has become a constant topic of conversation among Fox journalists, some of whom say they believe he uses distorted or inflammatory rhetoric that undermines their credibility.

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Fox staffers note that veteran producer Gresham Striegel left the network after clashing with Beck and say the host has surrounded himself with loyalists from Mercury, some of whom remain on that company's payroll. (Striegel did not respond to a request for comment.) When Fox covers breaking news during Beck's hour, some journalists say, they are flooded with angry e-mail from viewers about the preemption.

Friction between opinionated cable personalities and journalists has also flared occasionally at MSNBC. But Beck has caused such anguish at Fox that some of its journalists celebrated the failure of last week's interview with embattled ex-congressman Eric Massa, which Beck pronounced a waste of time.

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One thing is beyond debate: Beck provides a strong lead-in for the network's evening lineup. "The significance of Beck to Fox's bottom line cannot be underestimated," says Tyndall, the industry analyst. "Getting an audience that size at 5 p.m. is absolutely unheard of."

But that growth has come at a price, at least for those at Fox who believe that Beck is beginning to define their brand. Glenn Beck is a media phenomenon married to a phenomenally successful network, but away from the cameras, theirs is a troubled relationship.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (March 15, 2010 6:15 am ET)
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      It was easy to imagine the resentment towards Beck among other FOX personalities such as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, but now the folks on the news side of FOX are upset that Beck further undermines their already questionable credibility. The more that Beck becomes the face of FOX News you wonder if eventually it has to blow up in FOX's face. Beck appears to be quite mentally unstable and I suspect much of his audience is the same. From a business standpoint you have to wonder how long FOX/Beck can ride this wave with this kind of foundation.

      I am not saying this just because I would like to see FOX and Beck fail, which I do want to see...it's that Beck has "disaster" written all over him and, as is usually the case, he's going to take others down with him, leaving a path of destruction along the way.
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      • Author by goesto11 (March 15, 2010 7:01 am ET)
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        There's no news side of Fox.

        Any Fox reporter who's upset about Beck becoming the face of the network is more interested in an inflated paycheck than in journalism.

        No reporter with ethics could work for a propaganda machine.
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        • Author by MickD (March 15, 2010 11:15 am ET)
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          Yeah, precisely, and for Kurtz to frame it in such a way desperately tries to add legitimacy to a the hole that is in that Titanic.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (March 15, 2010 6:35 am ET)
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      When you sleep with the dogs, you're bound to wake up with fleas. I am glad to see that some members of Faux News are upset with his presence at the network. I find him unpleasant to deal with, apparently, my read is not that far off the mark. When he falls, if he takes Faux down with him, it won't bother me.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 15, 2010 6:45 am ET)
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        I wouldn't go so far as to say Glenn Beck will take down FOX but WHEN Glenn Beck's star tumbles it will certainly hurt FOX...and that Glenn Beck's star WILL tumble seems inevitable.

        Beck has sort of a tragic quality about him. His popularity has ascended rapidly and he frantically keeps pushing the enevelope...but I can't see Beck having the staying power to maintain that.

        And Beck thrives on bad economic conditions in the USA. What happens when the economy turns around and people are more interested in taking their boats out for a spin on the lake instead of wallowing in Beckian anxiety and paranoia?
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        • Author by magnolialover (March 15, 2010 8:30 am ET)
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          I don't know. O'Reilly has been around for quite some time, and nobody thought he'd be around this long. Beck will probably have a home at Fox for as long as he wants I'm betting.
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (March 15, 2010 8:35 am ET)
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            O'Reilly, however, doesn't strike me as insane...he knows where the boundaries are.

            Beck, on the other hand, strikes me as stone cold crazy...and he keeps upping the ante with his rhetoric. (I think he gets high off his rants...) I honestly don't think Beck is aware that there are limits to what he can say on the air and that one day he's going to step over that line.
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            • Author by raine315 (March 15, 2010 9:14 am ET)
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              Yes Bill O is more of a grumpy picky old soul who is not a fan of pop culture meanwhile Beck is indeed insane on the verge of being a cult leader
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            • Author by magnolialover (March 15, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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              True enough, but when O'Reilly first came on, I remember folks thinking him as crazy as Beck is now. Times, they have changed. When good old fashioned crazy (hey you kids get off of my lawn) has been replaced with super extraordinary crazy (see just about anything Beck says).
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    • Author by cst (March 15, 2010 7:08 am ET)
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      Frankly, at this point , the only question left is this: Will Beck's career self-destruct because of something HE does...or something one of his FANS does?
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      • Author by dogbreath (March 15, 2010 10:56 am ET)
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        Sad, but true. I sincerely hope that Beck self-destructs. Booom!
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    • Author by Dradeeus (March 15, 2010 7:09 am ET)
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      Have to have it before you can lose it. :\
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    • Author by dmhack (March 15, 2010 7:43 am ET)
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      It's true, it will always come down to the bottom line. As long as Becky helps FNC make money (these days as a lead-in), Rupert will have a spot for him on-air. Becky's the carnival barker--he gets the rubes in the tent.

      I've always thought that the advertiser boycott was a good idea, but poorly executed. The only thing Rupert understands is shrinking profits. Limiting the boycott to Becky alone didn't do anything to their bottom line, advertisers just moved their ads to other Fox shows. As long as FNC continues to turn a profit, there's no incentive to change anything. You might even argue that the boycott has freed Becky more than it has hurt him.

      The only thing that keeps FNC on its current course is the support of its advertisers. As long as they're willing to support the content (and we're willing to buy their products), why would FNC need to change?

      Becky's downfall, in the end, won't come from Fox--it will be self-administered.



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      • Author by IRONY 101 (March 15, 2010 7:49 am ET)
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        Beck may be a great lead-in for prime time programming...but the boycott has prevented Beck from becoming a prime time star. In a way, I'd like to see Beck in prime time...I think the additional exposure would actually hasten his demise.
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      • Author by wesley (March 15, 2010 9:06 am ET)
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        -- The only thing Rupert understands is shrinking profits -- dmhack

        And that is not the case...in spite of the impotent boycott led by mmfa.

        -- Fox News lead its cable news competitors in profitability for 2009, ahead of CNN and Headline News combined, and far ahead of MSNBC. --

        In 2009 FoxNews generated $623 million in ad revenue...and another $570 million in subscriber fees...dwarfing the competition.

        The subscriber revenue was generated on $.49 per subscriber and they have asked for an increase to $1 per subscriber last December. I'm not going to research where those negotiations currently stand...but if successful would raise revenue on subscriber fees to over $1 billion dollars annually.

        What are subcriber fees based on? Viewership. As long as Beck continues to destroy his competition in his time slot he is a valuable commodity in negotiating higher subscriber fees...rendering mmfa's advertiser boycott campaign pretty limp.
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        • Author by New Frontier (March 15, 2010 10:15 am ET)
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          "impotent" = 80 sponsors lost.
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          • Author by wesley (March 15, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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            impotent = 80 sponsors lost = damage to Beck or FoxNews?

            The answer is that you can't prove any damage except guesswork...while the FoxNews juggernaut rolls on.
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            • Author by MickD (March 15, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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              Do you personally profit from Fox, Wes? Why cheerlead for a soulless, culture-destroying media conglomerate?
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              • Author by wesley (March 15, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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                The only time I watch FoxNews programming is when I run by them on a channel surf...and I don't ever watch Beck.

                My intent is not cheerleading for Fox...just pointing out the futile effort of the mmfa led boycott.
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                • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 11:41 am ET)
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                  No, it wasn't futile . . . he's lost ALL corporate sponsors in the UK and now, with his stupid comments about churches teaching "social justice," he has offended many of Fox's core viewership and the GOP's "base." I'm thinking that the letters coming in from offended Christians is probably going to be the last straw.
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                • Author by DellDolly (March 15, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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                  Lying again, I see Weasel.

                  It was NEVER an MMFA-led boycott, and you know that.

                  And the topic wasn't ALL of FoxNews, but was about Glenn Beck specifically.

                  How do you know that if Beck hadn't lost 100 sponsors, FoxNews wouldn't have made a bunch more money? Talking about FoxNews' profits without addressing that is a lie by omission.
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                • Author by New Frontier (March 15, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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                  The only time I watch FoxNews programming is when I run by them
                  LOL
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            • Author by New Frontier (March 15, 2010 11:28 am ET)
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              80 lost sponsors isn't damage? Try getting a job in advertising with that on your resume.
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              • Author by wesley (March 15, 2010 11:33 am ET)
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                Neither you nor mmfa has proven any damage from the lost sponsors and you certainly haven't put a dent in his viewship...which is key to subscriber fees.

                Though it's an interesting strategy...pounding Beck in the fist with one's face...and reveling in the fact that you're in the fight.
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                • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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                  Beck has lost all corporate sponsors in the UK and has been airing with Sky News updates and weather reports as a result of the boycott [the Color of Change and Stop Beck boycotts.]
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                • Author by New Frontier (March 15, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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                  80 lost sponsors is damaging. But hey---keep on a-spinnin'!

                  Btw: it's curious--not to mention weird--why you are so personally invested in the Fox News "juggernaut", as you put it. Research, stats, angry defense, etc.---all for something that's supposedly so "impotent" and ineffective anyway...

                  Bizarre.
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            • Author by SMTDL (March 15, 2010 1:14 pm ET)
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              Fox is no Juggernaut just the highest rated of the cable news channels.Most people still get their news from the non cable network organizations!!!In the world of real journalism Fox has a lot of ethical critics but they are too cowardly to call Fox what it really is..a partisan media propaganda organization..pure and simple.Anyone claiming they are the only ones telling it "like it is" live in an alternate reality where facts and fairness don't exist!!They tell mostly older, very conservative,mostly white,somewhat biased/racist Americans just what they want to hear!! It's got nothing to do with reality ,facts or substance!
              Their motto might as well be ..Bush all good..Obama all bad!!
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        • Author by dmhack (March 15, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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          Geesh, Wendy...err, Wesley--you totally missed my point, but I'm happy if it gave you an opportunity to ramble aimlessly.

          Hey, Wes, who do you think will wind up paying the increased subscriber fee? You seem oddly eager to fatten Rupert's wallet. Can you say, baa?
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        • Author by okiepoli (March 15, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
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          "-- Fox News lead its cable news competitors in profitability for 2009, ahead of CNN and Headline News combined, and far ahead of MSNBC. -- "

          Of course, Fox increases their profitability by cutting corners - lack of fact-checking, not wasting time with corrections or retractions, etc.

          "What are subcriber fees based on? Viewership. As long as Beck continues to destroy his competition in his time slot he is a valuable commodity in negotiating higher subscriber fees...rendering mmfa's advertiser boycott campaign pretty limp."

          Wrong - cable companies pay the subscriber fees, not individual viewers - even if nobody was tuned-in, Fox (or any other network) would still get the revenue.

          It is your argument that is limp - and incorrect.
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    • Author by phredicles (March 15, 2010 7:44 am ET)
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      Definitely one to file under the heading of, "Gosh, ya think?"
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      • Author by Leftylib (March 15, 2010 7:53 am ET)
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        I think the Fox bigwigs probably subscribe to the old saying, "There is no such thing as bad publicity."
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    • Author by whatIthink (March 15, 2010 8:05 am ET)
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      Nothing like locking the barn door after it's burned down.
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    • Author by bintx (March 15, 2010 8:18 am ET)
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      Well, DUH!

      Of course, he does. He's an even bigger liar than the rest of them.
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    • Author by roverflash (March 15, 2010 8:27 am ET)
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      [...]the host has surrounded himself with loyalists from Mercury[...]


      Well that helps explain his constant out-of-this-world remarks... heh heh...
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    • Author by jflz201884 (March 15, 2010 8:31 am ET)
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      "My God, Diana. We're talking about putting a manifestly irresponsible man on television!"

      -- Frank Hackett (Robert Duvall) to Diana Christensen (Faye Dunaway) in "Network"

      Each scene in Fox News' real-life 2009-2010 Glenn Beck drama shows how prescient screen writer Paddy Chayefsky was 34 years ago.
      "News" showman Howard Beale (Oscar-winning Peter Finch) was obviously mentally disturbed, but producer Diana (Oscar-winning Dunaway) had gone over the edge herself. Certifiably ratings-nuts, she and the network couldn't resist the temptation to give Beale his own show.

      It's time to dust off Chayefsky's classic satire for a timely, if creepy, reshowing.

      Jerry Elsea
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      • Author by MickD (March 15, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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        Nelson Chaney: All I know is that this violates every canon of respectable broadcasting.

        Frank Hackett: We're not a respectable network. We're a wh*rehouse network, and we have to take whatever we can get.

        Nelson Chaney: Well, I don't want any part of it. I don't fancy myself the president of a wh*rehouse.

        Frank Hackett: That's very commendable of you, Nelson. Now sit down. Your indignation is duly noted; you can always resign tomorrow.
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    • Author by bilbo_dies (March 15, 2010 8:44 am ET)
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      Kurtz: Some "Fox journalists" worried Beck "undermines their credibility"


      Irony, thy name is Fox News.


      When Fox covers breaking news during Beck's hour, some journalists say, they are flooded with angry e-mail from viewers about the preemption.

      Opps.

      I can see the emails though.
      "Dear Fox News. Please don't interrupt Glenn Beck while he is affirming my narrow minded world view. If you must show the news please do that only during your scheduled "news" time."

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    • Author by nerzog (March 15, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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      "FOX Journalists?"

      Has one been sighted?
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      • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (March 15, 2010 10:20 am ET)
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        ~
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      • Author by txthinker (March 15, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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        Once someone starts working for Faux News, they are no longer a journalist.

        I found this on Wikipedia - it's called "Journalisn Ethics and Standards". Not many of them apply to those working for Faux News.
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    • Author by New Frontier (March 15, 2010 10:18 am ET)
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      When Fox covers breaking news during Beck's hour, some journalists say, they are flooded with angry e-mail from viewers about the preemption.
      Yes, please. By all means, don't let actual information distract from the horse manure Beck is shoveling.
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      • Author by MickD (March 15, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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        The energy to first watch Beckerwood, then to fire off an email if he is preempted is energy expended that I will never understand.
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      • Author by draftedin68 (March 15, 2010 1:37 pm ET)
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        You really need a breath mint...

        Glenn Beck - Horse manure salesman with a mouth full of samples.


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    • Author by draftedin68 (March 15, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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      You can't loose it unless you have it...

      FOX NEWS has "credibility"?

      Since when, Howie? Since when?
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    • Author by MX91 (March 15, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
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      My first thought of this article - who are these fox journalists? Names and quotes. Without specifics, this is pure speculation. And even if there's some animosity within Fox, how is that important? Imagine the tone within the 3 networks that are in serious decline? Where's the talk of their difficulties here? Doesn't the media matter outside Fox News? I'll keep looking for other-than-Fox criticisms.

      Beck's popularity speaks for itself. The truth shall set you free.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (March 16, 2010 11:33 am ET)
           
        Beck's popularity speaks for itself. The truth shall set you free.

        Ah, another of these "popularity = truth" types.

        Don't forget that the popular view was to release Barabbas and to crucify Jesus. Or hadn't you ever read that?

        By all means, keep getting your "facts" from a polytheistic heathen, Mr. The-truth-shall-set-you-free.
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    • Author by mattcable250650 (March 15, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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      I hadda give Kurtz an attaboy for following the Couric-Beck dialogue with a comment in parentheses saying Beck was wrong. Is that a case of congratulating baby steps? Yeah, but hey, y'gotta start somewhere.
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    • Author by allan.masri1047 (March 15, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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      This on rightpundits.com:

      Tickle-gate was a fun topic for many. But even more reaction was drawn from one of Glenn’s new sponsors, selling non-hybrid ’survival seeds’. MSNBC’s Chuck Todd and even Comedy Central’s Jon Stewart, made much ‘hay’ over this, pardon the pun.
      A general rule for those in the public eye: When your name becomes the punchline for a joke, you know your time is almost up. Beck, your clock is ticking.
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    • Author by Porkeater (March 15, 2010 5:39 pm ET)
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      Waitaminute... FOX has journalists?
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