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CBS News confirms use of right-wing racial epithets

March 25, 2010 8:51 am ET by Eric Boehlert

This seemed to be largely overlooked from CBS's exclusive about voice mail death threats that Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI.) received in the wake of his role in passing health care reform. (And yes, please ponder the irony of the staunchly pro-life Stupak getting death threats from staunchly pro-life activists.)

Right-wingers have been in denial, insisting far-right protesters would never resort to racial epithets. Sort of like right-wingers were initially in denial last summer, claiming far-right protesters would never resort to marching around with swastika posters. (Hint: They did. A lot.) 

But note what CBS reported [emphasis added]:  

"Congressman Stupak, you baby-killing mother f***er... I hope you bleed out your a**, got cancer and die, you mother f***er," one man says in a message to Stupak.

"There are millions of people across the country who wish you ill," a woman says in a voicemail, "and all of those thoughts that are projected on you will materialize into something that's not very good for you."

CBS News also obtained copies of faxes sent to Stupak, which include racial epithets used in reference to President Obama and show pictures of nooses with Stupak's name.

UPDATED: Funny if it weren't so sad. Right-wing bloggers go all Zapruder on a video clip, trying to prove that an African-American Congressman wasn't spit on during the Tea Party rally. Except check out the 1:26 mark, where it appears he was. And at 1:44, the Congressman wipes the spit away. 

UPDATED: But oops, according to Andrew Breitbart's Big Journalism, the spitter was probably one of the "agents provocateurs" sent by Democrats. What's next, is Breitbart going to claim there was actually a second spitter

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    • Author by goesto11 (March 25, 2010 8:56 am ET)
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      Whatever CBS News has confirmed is irrelevant.

      Because Scarborough didn't hear any of this stuff.
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      • Author by MickD (March 25, 2010 10:41 am ET)
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        The fact that they don't deal with these threats against their countrymen and say "everybody does it" is bullsh!te. If the blood flows on the streets, it will be on their hands.
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    • Author by gg (March 25, 2010 8:57 am ET)
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      The right wing and Faux News will still spin this, they will say it is really being done by pro-choice Democrats just to make the them look bad.
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    • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 9:20 am ET)
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      Here's a link to a black Tea Party member (heh, there goes that template) on MSNBC (of all channels) schooling David Shuster on journalism. The point is we don't have any faces or names to see who's committing these threats. It could be fringe Tea Party members. It could be liberal operatives attempting to smear the right-wing. It could just simply be crazy, independent people doing crazy, independent things. It's not like certain left-wing violence in which we see and know who committed the acts.
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      • Author by pamom (March 25, 2010 9:31 am ET)
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        Oh my God! You managed to find one black out of THOUSANDS of whites! Congratulations!

        You so totally miss the point of any of this. Violence on either side is wrong (and looking at that list 1/2 of them are very FAR LEFT extermists and the other 1/2 are not proven to be left or right or anything other than crazy people). The point is that the violent rhetoric has taken over the MAINSTREAM GOP! This isn't isolated fringe radicals, these people are what the GOP now considers it's base. That's scary! And what's even more scary is that the leader's of the GOP won't denounce this behaviour. It's sick! And what's worse is your absolute refusal to see that this is wrong! It's not ok because xyz did it too. It's wrong no matter WHO does it! Get that through your thick skull!!! Stop trying to make comparisons and denounce what is very obviously a serious situation.

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        • Author by neon desert (March 25, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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          You're forgetting that one of the tenets of conservatism is living up to the lowest common denominator of your opponent. And from that perspective, MagCynic is perfectly confident that Republicans are justifiably venerated.
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        • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 9:43 am ET)
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          Violence on either side is wrong (and looking at that list 1/2 of them are very FAR LEFT extermists and the other 1/2 are not proven to be left or right or anything other than crazy people).
          Thank you! Somebody gets it. Finally! Being liberal or conservative AND crazy doesn't mean your crazy acts have anything to do with your chosen political doctrine.
          The point is that the violent rhetoric has taken over the MAINSTREAM GOP!
          Here's where you lose me. What do you mean by violent rhetoric has taken over the mainstream GOP? What does mainstream GOP even mean? Does that mean most Republican Congressmen now use violence rhetoric? Does it just mean the chairman of the GOP/ Is it hyperbolic words being taken literally?
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          • Author by cst (March 25, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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            Sarah Palin's website not "mainstream Republican" enough for you?
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          • Author by pamom (March 25, 2010 10:07 am ET)
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            Actually it does mean that Congressmen/women are now using violent rhetoric. Listen to Bachmann sometime or that crazy guy from Idaho calling for a Velvet Revolution. How many of his followers do you think actually understand that is just marching in the streets? It also means they are condoning the rhetoric from their base. When hearing about death threats to Congressmen or Senator's, they are saying so what. They are not soundly condemning it. People like Rush and Beck continue to talk about Revolution and arming yourselves against those evil liberals. The ammunition shortages show that people are taking this quite literally.

            The leaders of the GOP are not saying that this is wrong, and that's really the problem. By not condemning, they are implicitly encouraging their base to go ahead with these acts. If these words and actions were coming from the left, I would expect the Democratic leaders to come out strongly against it. Read some of the comments from the press and from other Congressmen, things like "What do you expect?" and "They are just expressing themselves". Does that sound like they are rejecting this type of behaviour to you?

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            • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 10:57 am ET)
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              The ammunition shortages show that people are taking this quite literally.
              What ammunition shortage. I can go to our local gun store and buy ammunition right now.
              The leaders of the GOP are not saying that this is wrong, and that's really the problem.
              Why do they need to say it's wrong? We all know it's wrong. We just need to find out who's doing it. Do GOP leaders have to come out and say murder is wrong? No. You don't have to come out and state the obvious.
              If these words and actions were coming from the left, I would expect the Democratic leaders to come out strongly against it
              Do you remember the way Bush got treated by members of the left? Did Democratic leadership come out against the books and movies glorifying the assassination of Bush? I don't remember that happening.
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              • Author by bintx (March 25, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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                The movie you speak of was made in Great Britain and had NOTHING to do with anything in the United States. Didn't matter if anyone here spoke out against it or not. It was not picked up by movie distributors in this country. Bad analogy. [About as stupid as the people who are so upset about "the left" keeping Ann Coulter from spewing her bilge at the university in Ottawa. They keep claiming her First Amendment rights are being taken away from her . . . she has no First Amendment rights in Canada.]

                As a life-long Republican voter for President, I spoke out against Bush because he was a horrible president who, with the aid of an irresponsible Congress, almost destroyed our country. He was what he has been his entire life . . . a screw-up who didn't CARE that he screwed up. There was always one of Poppy's friends who would come along and clean up after him. That's why I never voted for the man . . . EVER.

                Oh, and I never heard anybody in my personal life or on television who wished he would "bleed from his a**, get cancer and die." Funny, I don't remember that happening.
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              • Author by John Paradox (March 25, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
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                The Assassination of A President was hardly 'glorifying' the act, which anyone who bothered to see (mine through NetFlix) would know.
                It was more an examination of the reasons someone might want to kill any President for misleading the nation. Come to think of it, replace the 'Bush' segments with President Obama, and it still plays.
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 10:07 am ET)
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            Cynic,

            Go to the latest Beck-Wallis thread. Your boy took Wallis completely out of context and distorted what he meant. You probably don't care though.

            Back to this topic:

            Did you see the gun sights targeting vunerable Congressmen who are vunerable? Is that not violent?

            Do you want more examples?
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            • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 10:57 am ET)
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              Did you see the gun sights targeting vunerable Congressmen who are vunerable? Is that not violent?
              No. Source?
              Do you want more examples?
              Yes. You can post "violent" protest signs against Obama and I'll post just as many "violent" protest signs against Bush.
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              • Author by bintx (March 25, 2010 11:14 am ET)
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                I'm sure that you are a fan of Sister Sarah's Facebook page. That's where it is posted. She referenced it and directed her fans to it on her twitter feed.

                Keep up, Beck-clone.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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                You seriously haven't seen this? Its Palin's facebook page.

                http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=373854973434

                Find me ONE example of a leading Democratic politician pulling something like this, just ONE

                Find me examples of Dems spitting on Republicans and go to the Wallis thread, Beck took a quote horribly out of context, if you care about the integrity of your arguments, you'll go there and denounce your boy.
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                • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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                  You seriously haven't seen this? Its Palin's facebook page.
                  What's wrong with Palin's Facebook page?
                  Find me ONE example of a leading Democratic politician pulling something like this, just ONE
                  Pulling something like what?
                  Find me examples of Dems spitting on Republicans and go to the Wallis thread, Beck took a quote horribly out of context, if you care about the integrity of your arguments, you'll go there and denounce your boy.
                  Beck is not "my boy". He didn't take anything Wallis said out of context. Did Wallis not say he himself was a Marxist? Were those not his words?
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                  • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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                    He snipped the quote saying that he reformed. Beck is claiming that he still is Marxist.

                    Find me a Democratic politician's website that has Republicans in gun crosshairs.
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                    • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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                      Find me a Democratic politician's website that has Republicans in gun crosshairs.
                      Where are these pictures of Democrats in crosshairs run by Republican politicians?
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                      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 7:13 pm ET)
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                        I just posted Palin's facebook site where she puts the names and districts of Democrats, on a map, in the crosshairs. Show me something similar done by a Dem
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              • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 25, 2010 12:29 pm ET)
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                How easily the left forgets about the book that fatasised about assassinating Pres. Bush. I even think there was a Canadian movie that did the same.
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (March 25, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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                  Right, like fictional books and movies are the same as bricks thrown through windows, phone and fax threats, and cutting someone's gas line.

                  It's a false equivalency.
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                  • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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                    are the same as bricks thrown through windows, phone and fax threats, and cutting someone's gas lin
                    Can you find out and source who threw the brick, who phoned in threats, and who cut the gas line? Do you have any evidence whatsoever or do you just "know" who did it?
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                    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 7:15 pm ET)
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                      All of the bricks, threats and generally disgusting tactics have been targeted at those who voted for health care reform. Before they voted for reform, none of them were targeted.

                      Are you seriously saying that none of this has to do with health care reform?
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          • Author by SMTDL (March 25, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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            It means that mainstream national Republicans(in office now or formerly)either refuse to condemn these acts forcefully or outright explain away the suggested/actual violence and continued rhetoric with "justification as the opposition" type of language.Either you believe its wrong to use racial epithets or threaten violence or you don't.You give credibility to such behavior when you explain it away, defend it or even ignore it. They will be accountable for what happens as a result of their benign tolerance of dangerous behavior and rhetoric!!
            This has beeen happening since the election when McCain/Palin crowds hurled racial slurs and shouts of "kill him" when all the palling around with terrorists crap was thrown out.The emptyheaded U betcha girl said nothing after stoking it at rallies!.McCain even got defensive when John Lewis expressed concern of how they were stoking violent racism.Republicans even attacked Homeland Security for its report citing concerns for right-wing violence.In the meantime Congressional Republicans keep apologizing for and to Rush Limbaugh;agreeing with Glenn Beck and using Fox News for Propaganda.The rhetoric has become very much Republican mainstrean as they cater to the teaparty fringe.They never saw any racism on display or racist signs???They let this go too far and now WE all will live with the after math of their partisanship at all costs mentality. They were assisted by the main stream media which has not been that forceful in condemning this behavior or covering Republican complicity of it!!!
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      • Author by Good Creon (March 25, 2010 9:37 am ET)
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        It could also be... leprechauns! There is no evidence that they weren't there, so we have to be open to the possibility.
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      • Author by thaneb (March 25, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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        NewsBusters? "Obama loving Amy Bishop." "Joseph Stack's anti-conservative manifesto."
        You must be joking.
        Do you really believe whatever support Amy Bishop may have had for Obama had anything to do with her alleged rampage?
        Do you really believe Joseph Stack's manifesto was left/liberal per se rather than libertarian?
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        • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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          Do you really believe whatever support Amy Bishop may have had for Obama had anything to do with her alleged rampage?
          Can I ask that same question about all these recent "right-wing" threats? Oh, wait. We don't know who's doing these threats yet so we don't even know if they are right-wing or not. We do know who Amy Bishop is though.
          Do you really believe Joseph Stack's manifesto was left/liberal per se rather than libertarian?
          Did he not also rail against capitalism? My point is that he wasn't clearly right-wing.
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          • Author by CrashGordon (March 25, 2010 10:14 am ET)
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            The point is that the Republicans in general and the radicals within the party (i.e. the Tea Party, because they are fast proving to be very radical) are very slow and very weak in denouncing violent rhetoric. And, as has been predicted, the rhetoric is starting to lead to actual violence. When a man who claims to be a Tea Partier is rallying with the Tea Party and he spits on someone, the Tea Party has spit on that man. You can't just say, "Oh, he's just a fringe element. He doesn't represent us." Particularly when you have Beck and Limbaugh spewing their vitriol and suggesting hate and violence.

            Only after it became obvious that these dimwits are actually acting on rhetoric that has sometimes come from the Republican senators and representatives themselves does Boehner show up on TV and say it's wrong. What he ought to be saying to his own party is that the atmosphere they are creating is wrong. And the feces that coming out over the right wing radio and out of Fox News is wrong and has no place in civilized politics.
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (March 25, 2010 10:46 am ET)
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            Can I ask that same question about all these recent "right-wing" threats? Oh, wait. We don't know who's doing these threats yet so we don't even know if they are right-wing or not. We do know who Amy Bishop is though.

            Mag, buddy. Please quit flailing about on this issue.
            Most people don't care that there isn't proof these nut jobs are right wing or not. All they care about is that this is wrong. I HATED the patriot act but; I didn't protest that by threatening anyone, I wrote my congressman. I didn't care for Bush as president but; he was elected so I lived with it.

            Instead of being an apologist come out and tell all your conservative friends that this kind of behavior is wrong.

            BTW If you are really ballsy enough to do that, why don't you post their civil responses to your request.
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            • Author by MagCynic (March 25, 2010 10:49 am ET)
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              Most people don't care that there isn't proof these nut jobs are right wing or not.
              Fair enough.
              Instead of being an apologist come out and tell all your conservative friends that this kind of behavior is wrong.
              And now you've just contradicted yourself. You have no evidence to suggest any of these threats were done by members of the Tea Party movement or conservatives in general. You have zip. Nada. Nothing. You are simply assuming, along with MSNBC, that these threats and use of intimidation is definitely Tea Party people. If we ever know who are committing these acts we can have a conversation. Until then you have absolutely jack squat.
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              • Author by bintx (March 25, 2010 11:22 am ET)
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                What's the matter, Beck-clone? Are those letters to management causing you some concern? They should.
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              • Author by whatIthink (March 25, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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                Let's see, the most vocal critics against healthcare reform were the tea partiers. They were urged on by conservative politicians. When the healthcare bill passed, tea partiers vowed to continue the fight and not give up. Again, they were urged on conservative politicians. A tea party organizer published a Congressman's home address on his blog. But it was the Congressman's brothers address. The propane line at that address was cut. A conservative blogger urged violent action on Friday. Soon afterwards, bricks were thrown through Democrats offices. Stupak, in voting for the healthcare bill, was labeled a traitor by "pro-life" groups. He starts receiving death threats via phone and fax. Democratic politicians had racial and homosexual slurs yelled at them by tea party protesters. Tea party protesters have a history of carrying racist signs as well as signs with violent rhetoric. People have attended rallies openly armed. Racist slurs and signs are now being faxed to Democratic Reps. Sareah Palin urged her followers to reload and put out a map with gun scope type crosshairs showing Democratic races she thought were vulnerable. Capitol police have stepped up protection details for Democratic Congressman in recent days. Conservative politicians used a Democrats two young daughters in anti healthcare ads. Conservatives politicians have repeatedly called for "revolution", referred to the Democrats as wanting to destroy America, compared being in DC to being behind enemy lines, has called for uprisings against Democrats, have questioned the Presidents character, integrity, birth place, loyalty, etc. And this isn't even touching what FOX has and continues to do.

                After all that, for you to question whether it's conservatives and/or tea partiers who are making the threats is laughably ignorant.
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          • Author by bintx (March 25, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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            Amy Bishop was known to be mentally unstable and had previously shot and killed her own brother in 1986 [before anyone at all had ever HEARD of Obama]. She was upset because she got passed over for tenure. Her support or lack of support for any political candidate is completely irrelevant to her crime of murdering her co-workers. To cite her as a left wing extremist is ludicrous. Stack was also mentally unstable. Based upon his manifesto, he had also gotten a heavy dose of your duplicate's dishonest, uneducated and mentally unstable garbage. Mentally ill people some times don't have the ability to discern the difference between an uneducated, dishonest zoo radio DJ's deluded rhetoric and truth.

            This is Amy Bishop.
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          • Author by thaneb (March 25, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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            I guess "My point is..." is as close as anyone will get to you (MC)actually answering a question (raised by a link you provided) with an answer.
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          • Author by John Paradox (March 25, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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            Wrong, Chuck-o:
            Ala. blogger claims a role in Giffords-office vandalism
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 25, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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        The goal posts have shifted again I see. This started out as crazed right wingers yelling racial epithets against Clyburn, which they have NO audio or video evidence, to recorded messages against Stupak.

        Nice slight of hand mmfA.
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      • Author by gg (March 25, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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        Mag, you just proved my point, you are really making it too easy.
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    • Author by neon desert (March 25, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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      Oh yeah?!? Well.... DAN RATHER! Yeah - DAAAAAAN RATHER!

      Choke on that, liberals.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 25, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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        There has been a young Mr. Danny sighting on the HD Hotel channel! He was in East Jesus interviewing some unwashed hippie about...something irrelevant. Good to see Danny getting out these days. I was worried about him for a while there.
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    • Author by afriend (March 25, 2010 9:31 am ET)
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      C'mon now....these are just innocent comments by good, God-fearing, Right to Life Christians.
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    • Author by political_left-religious_right (March 25, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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      Although they would reject the label, most people who call themselves Pro-Life are really just anti-abortion. Pro-Life should mean that one is opposed to anything that causes unnecessary shortening of life and unnecessary reducing of quality of life.

      There are actually a whole host of issues that fall into this category, and the amazing thing is that conservatives tend to fall on the wrong side on almost all of them. Take tobacco, for instance. Which party has the tobacco industry in their pocket? How about the gun lobby? What about the issue of corporate pollution, or any other environmental question? Which side has always opposed any kind of safety regulation, be it for cars or the workplace?

      Rep. Stupak looked over the merits of the bill, and decided that, on balance, there would be more lives saved than lost. And that doesn't even take into account the economic angle. After all, for many women, abortion is, regrettably, an economic issue. You can see this by noticing that the abortion rate went down almost every year of the Clinton administration. Why? Was it because of his principled stand on the issue? His judicial appointments? His stirring oratory? No, it was because the economy improved. Notice that it started crawling up again under his successor.

      Unfortunately, so many so-called Pro-Lifers are really just Pro-Birthers, and thus they see no contradiction in making death threats against someone who is already born.
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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2010 10:36 am ET)
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        Well put. I consider them pro-fetus. More education about birth control leads to fewer abortions.
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    • Author by wookie (March 25, 2010 10:43 am ET)
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      Everyone knows that there was a second spitter on the grassy knoll...
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    • Author by txthinker (March 25, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
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      UPDATED: But oops, according to Andrew Breitbart's Big Journalism, the spitter was probably one of the "agents provocateurs" sent by Democrats. What's next, is Breitbart going to claim there was actually a second spitter?


      Right - a "magic loogie" that came from the nearby grassy knoll.....
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    • Author by netsez00565 (March 25, 2010 6:24 pm ET)
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      So we still have not been shown evidence of ANY racial slurs, CBS just says they have some. Nice.

      BTW Rep Cleaver was not spat on, at least not intentionally. Look what Cleaver is saying now.

      Rep. Cleaver claims someone "allowed" his spit to land upon him. As when in shouting some spit may fly.

      Let's see if MMFA offers another UPDATE
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      • Author by SMTDL (March 26, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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        OHHHH so they were just in the Congressman's face shouting aggressively..now I can sleep better!!!
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