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CNN's Erickson lashes out, doubles down on "shotgun" remark

April 05, 2010 4:55 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

In response to criticism, CNN's Erick Erickson is claiming that liberals are "misconstruing" his remark about pulling out a shotgun if the government tries to arrest him for not filling out the American Community Survey. Erickson also lashed out at "people" who "linger on every word I say" by stating: "You people are nuts. Absolute nuts. Where do you get off misconstruing that I'm agitating for killing Census workers when you people are out there advocating for the killing of the unborn on a regular basis. You have no shame."

On April 1, Erickson said of the American Community Survey: "This is crazy. What gives the Commerce Department the right to ask me how often I flush my toilet? Or about going to work? I'm not filling out this form. I dare them to try and come throw me in jail. I dare them to. Pull out my wife's shotgun and see how that little ACS twerp likes being scared at the door. They're not going on my property. They can't do that. They don't have the legal right, and yet they're trying."

That same day, Media Matters posted a seven-minute audio clip of Erickson's remarks, in context, along with transcript. The headline on Media Matters' post was, "CNN's Erickson: I'll '[p]ull out my wife's shotgun' if they try to arrest me for not filling out the American Community Survey."

On his radio show today, Erickson accused Media Matters of running "a story on their website saying I'm advocating shooting Census workers":

ERICKSON: I saw a report now -- it was an email and I've deleted the email, that now the word this year that everyone is using is narrative. The word narrative has been around for a long time but people are now paying attention to it in ways they didn't in the past. The media constructs the narrative of events. They do not set out to create it, but again, as I've discussed before, the world view -- the narrative is that conservatives are angry and are turning violent. And they have people in the New York Times and the Washington Post and even the Wall Street Journal and across the board throughout the traditional media building the narrative that conservatives are angry.

I mean, look, you've got headlines out there saying I've been advocating shooting Census workers, when I've done nothing of the sort. And people feed into these headlines and Media Matters runs a story on their website saying I'm advocating shooting Census workers, and the media falls into it and is willing to run the story. Not, mind you, that anyone ever called me to ask. And it's not just me, it's across the board.

Later on his program today, Erickson claimed that the "lefties are coming at me, hanging on every word I say, trying to misconstrue it; claim I'm advocating violence or what have you."

Erickson's defense echoes what he wrote on RedState.com on April 2, in which he claimed that liberals are out to "misconstrue" him.

Yesterday, I spent a good bit of time imploring people to fill out their census form, but then addressed this article in the Weekly Standard about the American Community Survey. ACS Surveyors are getting belligerent and have showed up on people's doorsteps to harass them and threaten jail. I said if some ACS person showed up on my doorstep to try to arrest me for not wanting to tell the government how often I flush my toilet I'd get out my wife's shotgun and get them off my property.

Naturally the left is out today saying I was on the air advocating killing census workers.

So tune in today and see what else they'll misconstrue. Oh, and we'll have special music for Good Friday.

On his April 2 radio show, Erickson spent more than fives minutes defending himself, adding that liberals "should be right there with us. They're the big privacy advocates." Erickson then addressed people who "linger on every word I say" by calling them "nuts":

ERICKSON: I want to start this morning, though, just -- I've been telling you guys that Media Matters and the left-wing kooks are out there listening now to every word I say. Yesterday, you will remember I talked about the American Community Survey. Now, this is not the census, although it's run through the Census office at the Department of Commerce. It is a survey that 200 some-odd thousand Americans get every year, and these little bureaucrats in the Census Department, they make you fill this out or threaten you with jail or fines if you don't. Now, this survey asks you when you leave for work, when you return, how long your drive is, who drives with you, how often you flush your toilet, how many people live in your house -- it's the census plus a bunch of garbage.

Now, as I said yesterday, repeatedly, you need to fill out your census form. You need to get it mailed in. The news is reporting it's about $1,700 per person comes in through census funding. Now, if you don't fill out your census form, these workers who have been hired causing the unemployment number to go down, they're going to come door to door anyway. 

There is a constitutional obligation for you to fill out your census. A free society cannot operate -- a modern republic cannot operate without knowing precisely how many people there are in the country. And the Constitution requires a hand-counting, not a statistical sampling, but a hand-counting. Well, this American Community Survey, there's no statutory authorization for it. The just -- the Census Bureau ran with it. Congress gave them a little, and they took a lot. And so the story I was reading yesterday was about the ACS surveyor who showed up to the door of the writer, basically demanding that he either fill out a survey or off to jail with you. And I said that if someone were to show up on my doorstep and try to haul me off to jail for not telling the government how often I flush my toilet, well I'm going to get my wife's shotgun and chase them off the property.

So naturally, of course, the morons on the left immediately blew up yesterday by the time I got off the air, that I'm out there - or of course now that they refer to me as CNN's right-wing contributor Erick Erickson. Yeah. Is calling for killing Census workers.

Now, I don't know in what part of my statement encouraging you to fill out your census or they're going to come door to door and get it and they're required to get it and we have an obligation to help them get it, is where they can interpret that as me encouraging people to kill Census workers. But, you know, I forget who prayed the prayer, 'Lord give me smart enemies,' but we'll make that my prayer, I guess. Give me smart critics and smart enemies. Good Lord, people. I am not advocating the killing of Census workers.

I am saying, though, if somebody shows up at my house because I refuse to fill out this American Community Survey and they tell me I'm going to go to jail because I won't tell the government how often I flush my toilet, what size toilet it is, and when I go to work, and when I return home, and who rides with me, and the invasiveness of this survey is outrageous - well, I will chase those people off my property.

Here's the thing. The left that is out there attacking me for saying this stuff and misconstruing along the way what I've actually said, they should be right there with us. They're the big privacy advocates. It's the left that's decrying the Patriot Act, it's the left that views abortion as a privacy matter. It's the left that says it's the Republicans in your bedroom. No, it's not the Republicans in your bedroom. You know Ronald Reagan didn't write this American Community Survey. Wasn't around in 1980. And yet they're out there saying, "Oh, Erick Erickson. He's encouraging us to kill Census workers. He's so evil and mean. And he works for CNN." You know, I -- long ago I realized -- well, not that long ago, a year or so ago, that people linger on every word I say. Well, linger on these words, please: You people are nuts. Absolute nuts. Where do you get off misconstruing that I'm agitating for killing Census workers when you people are out there advocating for the killing of the unborn on a regular basis. You have no shame.

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    • Author by MiniTru (April 05, 2010 5:00 pm ET)
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      False equivalence. Abortions are legal. Murdering Census workers, even if it is with your wife's shotgun, isn't.
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      • Author by justawful (April 05, 2010 5:05 pm ET)
           
        Hmm, it seems that he is the one who is misconstruing what MediaMatters said.
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      • Author by mustardman (April 05, 2010 5:11 pm ET)
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        Kinda sorta different.......some may say....!
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      • Author by historygeek001 (April 05, 2010 5:18 pm ET)
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        I'm right there with you, MiniTru. I am so tired of hearing people on the right try to equate actual violence against people with abortions while claiming to be "pro-life." Until they oppose ALL violence, including ALL executions and all wars, they're not pro-life; they're anti-choice. If they make the argument that abortion = murder because life is sacred but wars and/or execution is OK, then they're lying. Erickson is a prime example of such hypocrisy.
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        • Author by pointofview (April 05, 2010 8:48 pm ET)
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          And I am so tired of those on the left denying what a violent act abortion is, particular partial birth. Abortion is murder, it is violent, and no matter what sanitized language the left tries to use, it is violence plain and simple.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (April 05, 2010 8:57 pm ET)
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            I've not heard one person on the left deny that abortion is not a violent act, or that we want women to have abortions. The main difference between those of us on the left and those on the right is that we think that each woman has the right to decide for herself. It doesn't mean that that's what we approve of. This is a fallacy that has been a popular and successful selling point the right has used to paint liberals as baby killers. I know many women on the left, including myself and my daughter, who would not have an abortion under almost any circumstance. Although I wouldn't have an abortion, I think that a woman has to be responsible for making the decision, and that she will be the one to answer to God for her actions. None of us on the right or the left will be able to answer for the things that others do.
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            • Author by ConstanceRifleII (April 05, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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              Not to mention that 99% of "partial birth abortions," or abortions after the second trimester in particular, aren't just sought after willy-nilly. Those women WANT that child, but either that child or the mother, or both, is at grave risk if the pregnancy continues.
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              • Author by MiniTru (April 06, 2010 7:36 am ET)
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                There is no such thing as a "partial-birth abortion."
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                • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 11:41 am ET)
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                  I remember when I lived in Colorado and a guy who phoned in to one of the local talk shows all the time and was very pro-gun and anti-choice got on one day and asked "Do you know what happens when they pull a baby part-way out and suck out its brains?"

                  I phoned in and said "Yes, I do know what happens. The baby grows up, moves to Colorado Springs, buys a lot of guns, and spews nonsense on talk radio."

                  :-)
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          • Author by angels4light (April 05, 2010 9:35 pm ET)
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            Abortion is what happens when a pregnancy does not come to term and produce a live baby. A baby is a pregnancy that came to term, was delivered, and took a breath of atmospheric air. Abortions come about spontaneously (no statistics on that number), through medical intervention, or as a result of other actions taken by the female carrying the fetus, or as a result of other environmental factors (including violence by way of an automobile accident, for instance).

            If all abortion is murder, does that make God the greatest mass murderer in human history, when you take into account all of the spontaneous and other "acts of God" abortions? Or should we stop with the "Abortion is Murder" rhetoric, just as we should stop calling those who are anti-abortion pro-life?
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            • Author by overmars jr. (April 07, 2010 2:25 am ET)
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              Erm... miscarriages, such as those brought on by car accidents, are not abortions.
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              • Author by Pixie79 (April 07, 2010 9:36 am ET)
                   
                Um actually the medical term for a miscarriage is a "spontaneous abortion".
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          • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 10:28 pm ET)
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            If abortion is violent, then so is liposuction. So is any organ transplant surgery.

            But abortion isn't violence against a person.

            It's an abortion. A legal medical procedure that in all but a few cases removes a non-viable fetus from a womb. If it's a non-viable fetus, it's not a person.
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          • Author by albertsenj (April 06, 2010 12:50 am ET)
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            Your assertion that 'abortion is murder' is simply not true - no matter how many times you (or others) repeat it.

            Murder is a crime involving the UNLAWFUL TAKING OF LIFE. As abortion is legal - it cannot be murder - period.

            If you don't like it - change the law.
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            • Author by political_left-religious_right (April 06, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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              If you don't like it - change the law.

              That's the best point, and one that I really wish our old friend pointless would pick up on. Just a few years ago, his party had everything--the presidency, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, the majority of governorships, not to mention a stranglehold on the opinion-generating media--and they never moved an inch toward changing abortion laws, even though many of the officials were elected with the promise of doing exactly that.

              Until they realize this and renounce the Republicans who were supposed to help them, then it's very hard to grant them any credibility on this issue.
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          • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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            And I am so tired of those on the left denying what a violent act abortion is, particular partial birth. Abortion is murder, it is violent, and no matter what sanitized language the left tries to use, it is violence plain and simple.

            Abortion is legal - murder is not. End of discussion.
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          • Author by PSzymeczek (April 06, 2010 2:21 pm ET)
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            So you know enough about the circumstances of the life of someone you've never met to have the right to tell her what to do if she gets pregnant? Must be nice. I don't know. That's why I'm pro-choice.
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          • Author by nullbull (April 07, 2010 4:02 pm ET)
               
            When people are forced to carry census workers inside a sack of amniotic fluid inside their stomachs for 9 months, feeding and providing oxygen to said census worker from their own bloodstream, and forced to do all this against their will and their better judgment, these 2 things will be equivalent. Until then, notsomuch.
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      • Author by pointofview (April 05, 2010 8:53 pm ET)
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        Its not false, abortion is murder.
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        • Author by n'est-ce pas (April 05, 2010 9:41 pm ET)
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          Yeah, and with that rationalization, we should outlaw masturbation and put on funerals for cumrags. You posted some iteration of "abortion is murder" like three times in this one thread. It's one thing to have convictions, it's another to bleat slogans because you can't articulate a reasoned statement of principle.

          There's certainly a debate about the meaning of life and the definition of personhood, but people like you just reduce a nuanced argument to uncompromising fundamentalism. You will never convince anyone of anything. You'll only harden your opposition until the recalcitrance of both sides will result in nothing more productive than stalemate. Go away and think before you post.
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        • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 10:30 pm ET)
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          Nope, troll, abortion is NOT murder. Murder is the illegal taking of another person's life. Abortion is legal, and in 99% of the cases, there's not a person involved, since a non-viable fetus can never be classified as a person. Until that fetus can sustain life outside the womb, it's not a person.
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        • Author by mattcable250650 (April 06, 2010 12:32 am ET)
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          Nah, St. Augustine (354-430 CE) had it right. When the baby-to-be undergoes "quickening" is when abortion become murder. Of course, if the continued survival of the not-yet-born baby threatens the health or life of the potential mother, self-defense is always proper and is allowed in all cases.
          For the moderns to decide that they knew better than St. Augustine was the problem.
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          • Author by albertsenj (April 06, 2010 12:53 am ET)
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            What of the 'moderns' who decided that they knew better than The Church, that the earth revolves around the sun? Are they similarly out-of-line?
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        • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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          Its not false, abortion is murder.
          Repeating the same drivel doesn't make it true. Abortion is legal, and therefore NOT murder.
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        • Author by dkylep (April 06, 2010 6:51 pm ET)
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          The world is flat, the world is flat!!!

          The earth is the center of the universe!!

          Abortion is murder, abortion is murder!!

          They're all of the same lunacy. There's no comprehensible explanation given. As a matter of fact, all the explanations rely on the total absence of scientific and logical thinking, and the absolute reliance on the non-thinking that is faith. When you learn to make arguments in a logical, consistent, and scientific manner, then you'll have something worth contributing to this discussion. In the meantime, go make yourself useful and breathe on a tree or something, so that you give it enough CO2, because your nonsense offends my eyes.

          "Did you learn to believe today, or did you learn to think?" -Very sensible line about schooling and what a child learned in it.
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        • Author by dontbestupid (April 08, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
             
          Troll
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      • Author by progressivevoicedaily (April 07, 2010 9:07 am ET)
           
        I would knock this guy out, right to the chin:)
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (April 05, 2010 5:23 pm ET)
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      The solution is to STFU.

      Erickson always says stupid stuff, and when he is confronted, he refuses to take responsibility for his words and ends up blaming someone else for what comes out of his rancid, super-sized mouth. He does the same thing on the city council and in the community here in Macon, GA. The same thing.
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      • Author by toombsie (April 05, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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        CNN truly knows what it is doing hiring such an outstanding individual.
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        • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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          CNN truly knows what it is doing hiring such an outstanding individual.
          Thanks to CNN's hiring choice, millions of parents can now point to the TV screen when Erick Erickson is on, and say to their kids "NOW do you see what will happen to you if you don't do your homework and study hard? You'll end up as stupid as that man!"

          :-)
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    • Author by nerzog (April 05, 2010 5:24 pm ET)
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      So, he thinks they're going to send a "little ACS twerp" to arrest him?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (April 05, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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        He know what he is doing.
        Stirring up his base, etc.

        He knows that no one is going to come to his house and arrest him, much less some part time census worker. At the most he will get fined and will be able to whine about that and how the government is out to get him.

        BTW He needs to understand that the census workers are a bunch of liberals.
        My neighbor is a retired cop and he is an FSO for the census.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (April 05, 2010 8:09 pm ET)
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        Man, I don't know what this guy is thinking. If a Census enumerator has to visit his house, you can bet a pair of U.S. Marshals will be in attendance. I'd bet Erickson pees himself, at that point. Any takers?
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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (April 05, 2010 5:29 pm ET)
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      Erick Son of Erick is absolutely correct. We liberals would be wise to remember that in 2003, during the run-up to the Iraq War, Michael Moore prominently and publicly declared that he would start using his trusty shotgun against the government if Bush/Cheney followed through on their threats to go to war against Iraq.

      In response to Moore's threats, Republicans everywhere -- especially everyone on Fox News -- praised Michael Moore for having the courage of his convictions. I'm sure we can all vividly remember that conservatives everywhere, including Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and even Dick Cheney, basically said that while they didn't agree with Moore's politics, they thought it was "totally awesome" that he brought up the use of his shotgun to show his opposition to the Iraq War.

      So, if it was OK for Michael Moore to make such a threat, the same must be said for Erick Son of Erick.
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      • Author by Jeremy Danials (April 05, 2010 6:38 pm ET)
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        No, there is one BIG difference. Moore is a master of satire, and the group of conservatives were using "backhanded praise" in that instance.

        Erikson, on the other hand, is deadpan serious. And even if he isn't, in this charged an atmosphere, someone will do just what he postulates doing. And we don't need another dead Federal employee. (Another Census worker in Kentucky was killed last year because he was a federal employee.)
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        • Author by pointofview (April 05, 2010 8:50 pm ET)
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          Moore is a master of fried chicken and candy.
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          • Author by n'est-ce pas (April 05, 2010 9:33 pm ET)
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            Oh! ZING! See, cuz he's fat. He's FAT! And he likes fried chicken. And candy. So that's funny. Cuz we never left the third grade and we can't argue with the substance of his constantly vindicated movies....
            But...FAT! Right? That's funny, right?
            Dumbass.
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            • Author by indictgwbush (April 06, 2010 1:19 pm ET)
                 
              I believe that "point" this individual refers to is on his head.
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          • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 10:32 pm ET)
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            Yeah, because when one can't fairly debate the facts, they make personal attacks like how fat someone is, like their body weight says anything about the validity of their political activities!
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          • Author by mattcable250650 (April 06, 2010 12:36 am ET)
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            You didn't have much respect from me to begin with, but that puts you well into the negative numbers on the respect front.
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          • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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            The world is a better place because of Michael Moore. It WOULD be a better place if POV stopped posting nonsense on this board.
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    • Author by Porkeater (April 05, 2010 5:31 pm ET)
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      When he says he'll "[p]ull out my wife's shotgun' if they try to arrest me" it isn't misconstruing it to say he's "advocating shooting Census workers". It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion from his statement. He's not only a coward, but a fool.
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      • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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        When he says he'll "[p]ull out my wife's shotgun' if they try to arrest me" it isn't misconstruing it to say he's "advocating shooting Census workers". It's a perfectly reasonable conclusion from his statement. He's not only a coward, but a fool.

        If he didn't want to advocate the shooting of census workers he would have said something like "Pull out my wife's eyebrow tweezers and see how that little ACS twerp likes being scared at the door".

        BTW, I notice that he talks about his WIFE'S shotgun. Is there something in Erick Erickson's past that restricts HIM from owning a firearm?????
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    • Author by The_Cat (April 05, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
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      These are direct quotes from Mr. Erickson:
      I'm advocating shooting Census workers,....

      ...I'm advocating violence or what have you.

      I'm agitating for killing Census workers...

      And I said that if someone were to show up on my doorstep and try to haul me off to jail for not telling the government how often I flush my toilet, well I'm going to get my wife's shotgun and chase them off the property.

      So here you have a guy, very violent, disturbed guy by the way, calling for.. and some kind of effeminate gun nut, right? I mean, it's his wife's shotgun, for heaven's sake. Why don't you have a shotgun, Erick? Won't she LET you? And he's, apparently, ready to kill census workers.

      (This clip brought to you by "What would happen if Glenn Beck worked for the left wing rather than the right wing?" Productions)
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    • Author by highlyunlikely (April 05, 2010 5:47 pm ET)
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      you know, Erick, it's awfully difficult not to gawk at an exhibitionist.
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    • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 5:54 pm ET)
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      Where do you get off misconstruing that I'm agitating for killing Census workers when you people are out there advocating for the killing of the unborn on a regular basis.

      It's not "killing" if it's a legal abortion, first off. It's not comparable to threatening a person either, since a non-viable fetus isn't a person. It's not "the unborn" - there's no such thing.

      Then, to top it off, it doesn't matter what someone else may or may not be doing wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right! It doesn't justify or explain his offensive comment even if others make offensive comments.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (April 05, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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        absolutely, not to mention that false equivalence thingy he thinks he's getting away with.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (April 05, 2010 8:20 pm ET)
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        You know, these righties always turn out to practice the opposite of what they preach. I mean, c'mon, Dick Cheney, talks like a warmonger, five deferrals from service in Vietnam. Ted Haggard, anti-gay Christian fundamentalist preacher who likes his hookers hung and high. Mark Foley, anti-childporn firebrand in the Senate, creepy "get a ruler and measure it" teen raper out of session.
        So, I propose we all put together a pool. How long's it gonna take before some high school sweetheart of Erickson's comes forward with the shocking allegation that he wouldn't pay for her abortion...because he wanted to do it himself....
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      • Author by pointofview (April 05, 2010 8:52 pm ET)
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        So are you saying then that if the "fetus" is viable, that abortion is murder? Do you have the courage of your often false and crazy convictions to say that Delly, or will you find a way to worm your way out?

        Abortion is murder, plain and simple.
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        • Author by DellDolly (April 05, 2010 10:41 pm ET)
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          Nope, since it's still legal, in very limited cases, to do the abortion in that case. There are TIMES when it's justifiable to take the life of another, right? Not EVERY taking of a life is murder. What if your child's life is being threatened by someone with a knife, and you shoot and kill them with a gun - you're not guilty of murder, are you, even though you killed a person? Of course you're not, because you're protecting the health and well-being, and maybe even the life, of someone else.

          And so, with viable fetuses, the ONLY time it's legal is when the health or life of the mother is being protected.

          This isn't rocket science. It's really pretty simple, and ENTIRELY consistent.

          See, I've had this fight multiple times, and there hasn't been a single time that ANYONE has been able to put a chink in this argument, so you might as well give up now instead of making yourself look any more insincere.

          There CAN'T BE A MURDER if there isn't a person. But that doesn't mean that every time a life is taken that it's a murder. It only means that it CAN'T be a murder with a non-viable fetus, since they would NEVER become a person if they left the womb. They would always remain a non-viable fetus.

          When a viable fetus leaves the womb, it becomes a baby. A person.

          I don't have any false and crazy convictions. But you sure don't understand logical fallacies. Just because early and mid-term abortions don't involve a "person" being violently ripped from the womb doesn't mean that when a fetus is viable, it's always murder, just like it's not always murder when one takes the life of another person.
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        • Author by achrispage6992 (April 06, 2010 7:32 am ET)
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          "Abortion is murder, plain and simple"

          Says who? You? Are you some kind of dictator? I thought you right wing nuts hated anything that resembles dictatorial actions?

          We all know what you're doing and why. All you have done is repeat your tired statement quoted above. You don't even try to present a reasonable argument for your statement, instead you get this sick perverted thrill out of posting inflammatory statements here knowing that people (including me) will inevitably respond. The hilarious part is that you seem to actually think that you are pulling one over on everybody. You must think that people don't realize what you are doing. Have you ever thought that perhaps it is you who is getting their chain jerked around?

          Now, if you're interested, I would love to read why you make the assertion that "abortion is murder."
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    • Author by shaggles (April 05, 2010 5:56 pm ET)
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      Well he certainly takes criticism well, doesn't he?
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      • Author by txthinker (April 06, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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        I'm sure all of his report cards when he was a kid included the notation "does not play well with others".
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    • Author by ronbo (April 05, 2010 8:39 pm ET)
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      No, he didn't advocate shooting government employees.

      Merely pulling out a loaded gun and waving it around to intimidate them. Oh, that's completely different.

      Thanks Erik, for making a great contribution to the pile of reasons why we need sensible federal gun control laws.

      Fortunately, conservative blowhards like this don't have the balls to carry through with their puffery. If I lived close enough to this fool, I'd show up in a cheap suit carrying a clipboard, just to call his bluff.
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    • Author by angels4light (April 05, 2010 9:28 pm ET)
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      I have yet to hear ANYONE except the male contributor to an unwanted pregnancy advocate for abortion. On the other hand, claiming you will bring your shotgun to "the meeting" if a census worker comes to your door does sound like you are advocating at least threatening temporary workers with bodily harm. Having read all of his commentary, I see that he is splitting the very fine hair of person who works for the census bureau on an ACS survey and a person who is following up on the decennial census. Then he prays for smart enemies - which is fine, I guess, but wouldn't smart followers who ALSO hang on his EVERY word be useful?
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    • Author by blesscurse (April 05, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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      Don't you understand that by giving the full untruncated quotations with full context you are obviating the misleading soundbites that could be taken out of context? Shame on you Media Matters for printing verbatim transcripts! Shame on you! Shame on you for daring to print paragraphs worth of verbiage without ellipses! No wonder Erickson is so furious.
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    • Author by doggeddem (April 06, 2010 12:19 am ET)
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      Just because you think black helicopters are coming to take you away, doesn't mean that you aren't paranoid. This jerkwad sounds like the unibomber.
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    • Author by swift (April 06, 2010 5:02 am ET)
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      Let me say it right now. I don't think you can call a zygote or a very early developing embryo a "human life" in any way but potentially. Well, if it's morally acceptable to use birth control, it's acceptable to abort within the first few months, no questions asked. Those who seek to define this as murder are approaching the facts from a theological point of view. I don't. Pharmaceutical abortions, the abortion pill, the morning after pill, all these things will make the great number of "abortions" unenforceable. Using the word "murder" to describe an abortion is sheer political sensationalism, and an imposition of religious belief that goes against the constitution. And you know, the constitution is what the right keeps ragging on.
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    • Author by MeanMrSpicyMustard (April 06, 2010 9:19 am ET)
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      Gotta love this:

      "You people are nuts. Absolute nuts. Where do you get off misconstruing that I'm agitating for killing Census workers when you people are out there advocating for the killing of the unborn on a regular basis. You have no shame."


      He's of course way wrong on every level, but even if we go with him and say that abortion is murder (it isn't), even so, what he's basically saying is, "It's okay if I talk about murdering people because you do, too."

      What happened to, you know, moral high ground? Aren't you supposed to be better than us evil baby killers, Erick?
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      • Author by LKL (April 07, 2010 9:29 am ET)
           
        Excellent point!

        Plus, even if you agree that abortion is murder, who on the left is "advocating" for abortion? I sure don't recall anyone on the left saying that if health care reform didn't pass, we girls should all go have an abortion or anything.

        Advocating for having the freedom to choose is not even close to advocating "for" abortion.
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    • Author by LonesomeinNE (April 06, 2010 6:18 pm ET)
         
      According to Erickson "You know Ronald Reagan didn't write this American Community Survey. Wasn't around in 1980." Mr. Erickson should inform himself before making such statements. The American Community Survey is only the current version of what used to be the Census Long Form Questionnaire. It has been around since the 1940 Census.
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    • Author by dkylep (April 06, 2010 7:00 pm ET)
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      Ah, more wonderful insanity from mental midgets. From Becky to Palin, I've heard their recent violence-ridden language called everything from 'satire' to 'irony', neverminding the fact that the people claiming such things wouldn't know what either was if it jumped up and bit them in the butt. I mean, seriously, Simple Sarah understanding anything remotely close to actual satire or irony? Please.

      Erikson, when you claim that you'll go and threaten some government worker with your wife's shotgun, you're advocating breaking the law. Since you're so concerned with legality and what is right and proper, perhaps you should give some thought to that, yes?

      Oh, and when you imply that violence will be done by pointing a shotgun at somebody (or claiming that you will do so) who comes to your door and is simply doing their job, you are threatening to kill them. Don't agree with me sir? Well then, I suggest that you very publicly (like you did with your comments) claim that if you ever see Obama (another person you don't agree with, in terms of job performance, just as with the ACS worker at your door) you're going to pull out your wife's shotgun and give him a scare.

      After you say that, guess who you're going to get a visit from? And they won't be saying, "Well, you were trying (and failing) to be satirical, so I guess you're off the hook." No, they'll be rather more upset with you, and they'll likely have some very pointed questions to ask you about your actions and your statements.

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