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Glenn Beck Biographer: 'I wasn't prepared for the depth of Beck's mean streak'

June 03, 2010 9:46 am ET by Joe Strupp

A new book on Glenn Beck is out.

Author Alexander Zaitchik has penned, "Common Nonsense: Glenn Beck and the Triumph of Nonsense" (Wiley, 2010). It was released May 24.

The book offers a great history of Beck's life and career, including his days as a Morning Zoo disc jockey, along with his current controversial stints on talk radio and Fox News.

Zaitchik sat down for a Q&A with me this week, giving his views on Beck, his rise, and insight into the man, his opponents, and followers.

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Q. What made you want to write this book at this time?

A. I first started thinking about Beck in March of 2009. The trigger was a clip I saw of his weepy "We Surround Them" episode on Fox News, the one co-starring Chuck Norris, where he choked up while mumbling about "loving his country... and fearing for it." I knew nothing else about him at the time. I just started digging around to see who this guy was and where he was coming from. The more I dug, the more it was clear that something was bubbling around his demo that was unique. There were all of these MeetUp groups and viewing parties across the country--a whole Culture of Beck. It was clear he was heading toward territory more Palin than Hannity. But I had no way of knowing he'd get as big as he did over the course of writing the book.

Q. What is the biggest misconception about Glenn Beck?

A. I think the biggest mistake people make is trying to fit him into just one basket. His critics sometimes think that he's totally crazy. Or just an actor. Or a businessman. His fans, meanwhile, are convinced that his politics are deeply held and his self-less patriot shtick is authentic. But there's no need to choose with Beck. You can be a crazy actor and businessman with genuinely bizarre politics and a perverse understanding of history. There's no conflict. 

That said, I think his primary motivations are, and have always been, money and fame. That's a constant throughout his career. Long before he found God and George Washington during his early transition to talk radio, he dreamt of making it big as a syndicated Top 40 guy. His media empire has been a dream since childhood, although the content is probably a surprise even to him. But just because he's a businessman who knows exactly what he's doing does not mean that everything coming out of his mouth is part of a charade. I think he really does have the twisted hard-right politics he professes to hold. He doesn't know enough to know better. He learned just about everything he knows about history and politics from AM radio and crazy Mormon Birchers like Cleon Skousen. A lot of what people find hard to understand about Beck is a result of rank ignorance. I offer numerous examples of this in the book. 

Q. What surprised you the most from your research?

I wasn't prepared for the depth of Beck's mean streak. He's still known for personalizing disagreements in a vicious way. This is something that goes all the way back. Along with his ambition, it's another striking constant in his life and career. This is a guy who called a competing deejay's wife live on the air and mocked her for having a miscarriage. More than one former colleague described him as a "sadist," the kind of guy who enjoys humiliating people, who pulls wings off of flies. I don't doubt that he could enjoy hurting animals. He still sells a shirt on his website that features a picture of a baby polar bear with a target on it and the tagline, "Drill through their a** for cheaper gas."

The idea that Glenn Beck "became a better man" when he found Jesus is one of two major self-serving myths out of which he's built his brand. The other being that his public super-patriotism is reluctant and full of self-sacrifice.

Q. There is much discussion of past emotional problems. What exactly occurred and how has that affected Beck's actions?

A. Beck had his share of tragedy in his youth. A divorce followed by the death of his mother. Then a half-brother killed himself. How much these things contributed to the Beck we know today, I have no idea. But Beck is clearly full of hatred to this day, for himself, for the world, for his political opponents. More than one former colleague believes he was diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder in the 90s, likely bipolar, and that he took lithium on top of his recreational drugs and booze until he went clean in mid-90s. So you start with that as a baseline, together with a history of depression, throw in some megalomania and ADHD, for which Beck takes Big Pharma speed, sprinkle it with some dry drunk fairy dust and an instinctive paranoia, and you have a recipe for a freak show.

Q. Is this related to his crying, or is that even real emotion?

A. Beck has been fake crying for at least a decade. At his Top 40 station in New Haven, his ex-partner told me he'd get emotional, cut to commercial, dry up to order a bacon-and-cheese, then start crying as soon as he was on-air again. One of his colleagues in Tampa told me the same thing. This is not to say that Beck is not an emotional wreck who cries a lot. He definitely does. But I think the way he incorporates it into his performance is a combination of embarrassingly deep emotional neediness and a shameless desire to manipulate his audience, which apparently is willing to give him a pass on the crying because they think at bottom he is authentic. And it's worth noting that the neediness seems to cut both ways. Often Glenn Beck feels like nothing so much as an episode of Mr. Rogers.

There's also a bit of a Mormon thing going on with regard to the cheap theatrics and tortuous sentimentality in Beck's shtick, which I talk about at length in the book.

Q. Do many know Beck is a Mormon? How has that change affected him?

A. I think his fans know he's a Mormon. It's affected him in a number of ways. Most importantly, it was though Mormonism that he encountered the work of Cleon Skousen, whose books--The Naked Capitalist, The 5,000 Year Leap--filled the massive void that was Beck's knowledge base when he started doing talk radio.

Q. Beck's comments about Malia Obama caused outrage. How does this compare to other instances of outrageous comments during his Zoo career?

A. There's no need to go back as far as his Zoo career. When he was doing talk radio in Tampa and Philadelphia, he attacked Michael Schiavo's kids as "bastard children" on the air, because they were from a second marriage, and Beck was accusing him of "attempted murder" for wanting to pull the plug on his brain-dead wife, Teri.

If the attacks aren't nasty and personal, they're offensive in other ways. Beck's broadcast bile has been condemned, usually more than once, by groups representing just about every race and religion you can think of--from Jews to Hindus to Muslims, you name it. You could fill an entire encyclopedia with Beck's beyond-the-pale antics over the years. Some of it has been on-air, and just as much off-air. This stuff is, and always has been, his stock and trade.

I don't think his coy apology for his recent attack on little Malia Obama signifies a new and improved Beck. Even if he wanted to outgrow this kind of thing, his spleen wouldn't let him. His spleen runs the show. Always has.

Q. Tell us about Beck's "Plan" and his effort to announce it on the anniversary of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" speech?

A. Beck now claims that his "Restoring Honor" rally on the National Mall has nothing to do with King, even though he originally advertised it as timed to the anniversary of King's "I Have a Dream" speech. Somebody must have told Beck that King was a "progressive cockroach." So now he claims he chose August 28 because it was near Labor Day.

Basically, the whole thing is a massive self-promotional event in which he'll be keynote speaker at a podium at the foot of the National Memorial. It would be funny if he wasn't asking his fans to pay for the whole thing while wrapping himself in the flag and claiming it's "about the troops." The way he's set it up is enough to make you puke. Only once he pays for this huge Beck Fest will any extra money will go to a benefit for the children of Special Forces veterans. But that might as well be an after thought. There are other, much more effective ways to raise money for charity. It's disgusting to watch him promote this thing, and breathtaking to watch his fans fall for it. Despite the transparency of what he's doing, they continue to eat up his selfless patriot act. It's very similar to his "Rallies for America" tour in 2003, which he promoted as a way to support the troops, but was really all about Glenn Beck, who at the time was building a national brand less than a year after beginning syndication. I tell that story in the book in some detail.

Q. Does the left over-worry about his impact, or is he a true influence on the right?

A. There's no question Beck is a major influence, especially given the flux and activity we're seeing on the right in 2010. The guy has an estimated total media footprint of 30 million Americans every month. And a good chunk of the Amazon 100 top-selling books are only on the list because he recommends them.

As for whether the left sweats him too much, time will tell. He may very well flame out, or melt down. But right now he merits concern. As pleasant as it might be to dismiss him, too many people are willing and eager to enter into this bizarre role-play in which Beck is not only their history professor, but also their quasi-prophetic movement leader. While there is an argument to be made against giving him too much of our energy and attention, completely ignoring him and his ilk is one luxury we can't afford. 

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    • Author by political_left-religious_right (June 03, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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      I sure hope that Zaitchik's book sells well, but I also hope that the mistake in the interview ("This is a guy who called a competing deejay's wife live on the air and mocked her for having an abortion.") gets fixed. I believe it's a matter of public record that Beck mocked the woman for having a miscarriage.
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      • Author by goesto11 (June 03, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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        I caught that, too.

        Neither of those events would be any of Beck's business, but they are two entirely different sets of circumstances.
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      • Author by punkin (June 04, 2010 10:13 am ET)
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        dang - i read right past that - I knew that he mocked her for the miscarriage so I didn't even read the word "abortion" but skipped on to the next sentence.

        though the medical term for a miscarriage is "spontaneous abortion"
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    • Author by congero6189599 (June 03, 2010 11:08 am ET)
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      Thank you for this interview. I don't think I will buy the book because I'am familiar with the points raised in the interview about Beck but I will save this interview.
      Curious as to where all those who come to this site to defend Beck are. There silence is deafenening.
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      • Author by doughpro1604643 (June 03, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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        Just commented. Not worth any more of my time.
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        • Author by doughpro1604643 (June 03, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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          Except to add that Beck has known (and shared on his radio show) about the "Lonesome Rhodes" ploy for over a year.
          Good luck with that, though.
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          • Author by mary59 (June 03, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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            Are you saying that he knows he's the "Lonesome Rhodes" faker? Or is he convincing himself he's not?
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          • Author by highlyunlikely (June 04, 2010 8:23 pm ET)
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            actually the Rhodes analogy is not entirely apt. Ultimately, Andy Griffith's fans were not nearly as dense as Beck's.
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      • Author by bintx (June 03, 2010 11:36 am ET)
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        Exactly . . . this information was already available from interviews with the actual parties involved. Nothing new. Beck is a very dangerous sociopathic con-man.
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    • Author by doughpro1604643 (June 03, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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      I rarely read "unauthorized" biographies. I prefer to read about a person in their own words. Not really interested in baseless opinion and third party fabrications.
      This is nothing more than a hatchet job by somebody who is really not interested in Beck, just out to smear and make some money.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (June 03, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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        hahaha...just as I thought. lol. Posted 3 times you were so upset but couldn't think of any defense but to call it a smear. hahaha!
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      • Author by bintx (June 03, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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        This "hatchet job" simply points out the same facts which have been reported by other people who have worked with or have had encounters with Beck in the past. Truth isn't a "hatchet job," doughboy.

        You sound awfully defensive and too much "in the know" to be just an adoring fan. What's the matter, did it hit too close to home? Is this author going to be the latest target of attack? I mean, any time Beck even perceives that someone has "wronged" him, he goes on an almost manic attack of that person. See, Beck's a sociopath. He can NEVER be wrong . . . if he is, it has to be someone else's fault.

        I saw nothing in this interview that I had not already heard in the past about Beck.
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        • Author by Unreality (June 06, 2010 12:49 am ET)
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          "Beck's a sociopath. He can NEVER be wrong . . . if he is, it has to be someone else's fault."

          Spot on. Until you've had direct interaction with a sociopath you literally cannot conceive of how vicious and volcanic their hatred toward the person who provides the facts proving the sociopath is wrong.
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      • Author by New Frontier (June 03, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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        This is nothing more than a hatchet job
        If you mean like what Beck does to people practically every day on radio and TV, no, it isn't.
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      • Author by soze169880 (June 03, 2010 1:53 pm ET)
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        I rarely read "unauthorized" biographies. I prefer to read about a person in their own words.

        Troll to English: It's easy to keep up my hero worship of Beck if all I learn about him is what he wants me to learn.
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      • Author by RedChocobo (June 03, 2010 2:13 pm ET)
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        "I rarely read 'unauthorized' biographies."

        I think I would tend to trust the unauthorized ones more than the authorized ones. Autobiograpies, where people tend to only talk about the parts of themselves that they want people to know, and 'authorized biographies', where the author only approves because its a glowing positive representation of themselves, often tend to be a bit false or don't tell the whole story.

        The truth is that this guy has some excellent opinions and facts about Beck and we would all do well to listen.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 03, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
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        I prefer to read about a person in their own words.

        Oh, so you enjoy shameless self-pandering, self-promotion, one-sided justifications and non-apologetics?

        Beck is scum. And he PHONY scum. And if you can't see that, you're a damn fool

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        Apparetnly you CAN'T handle the truth!
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (June 03, 2010 5:07 pm ET)
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        "This is nothing more than a hatchet job by somebody who is really not interested in Beck, just out to smear and make some money." --doughpro

        So, are you saying that Beck and Beck ONLY can have the corner on this market?
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      • Author by punkin (June 04, 2010 10:20 am ET)
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        " I prefer to read about a person in their own words"

        how utterly naive can you be? As if a person (and especially a narcissist like Beck) would pen all the dirt about themselves.

        so you are one of these blind Beck fans that believes everything he says about himself in his own book (autobiography = good/truth). What do you have to say about Obama's books that are basically autobiographies?
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      • Author by poiks (June 04, 2010 1:31 pm ET)
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        Yes, CLEARLY the most objective view of a person is from that person himself, Einstein.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (June 04, 2010 9:07 pm ET)
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        I suspect the entire quota of truth in your post was condensed into the first three words.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (June 03, 2010 11:59 am ET)
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      "You can be a crazy actor and businessman with genuinely bizarre politics and a perverse understanding of history. There's no conflict."

      Priceless!
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (June 03, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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        ""You can be a crazy actor and businessman with genuinely bizarre politics and a perverse understanding of history. There's no conflict."

        Priceless!" --Don Quixote


        My thought was 'hilarious' when I read this line. :-)
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    • Author by jaguarundi (June 03, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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      I find it strange that Glenn Beck professes a profound distaste for Adolf Hitler when they share so many traits in common. It's exactly this lack of actual education and an understanding of history that leaves so many in this country vulnerable to people like Glenn Beck. Just like Sarah Palin is now rewriting her Drill Baby Drill mantra to exclude offshore drilling. It seems that the conservatives in this country can rewrite history, repeat it in excess of 10 times publicly and voila, now we have a new history to deal with.
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    • Author by goesto11 (June 03, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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      If a journalist is surprised by the depth of Beck's mean streak, then I'd have to question whether that journalist is really qualified to write an entire book about the guy.

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    • Author by seahawks123 (June 03, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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      If he thinks Beck has a mean streak, then he should do a bio on Chris Mathews or Keith Olberman.
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      • Author by soze169880 (June 03, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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        Really? When did either of them mock a woman for having a miscarriage, or call an 11-year-old girl stupid just because they hate her father? Your false equivalency/ "NO U!" arguments are the lamest of all. They're even lamer than your transparent crush on bintx, or your insistence that you spell like a first-grader (you misspelled the names of BOTH people you were insulting, by the way) to "irritate libs". Why don't you just go back to your amputee-fetish board, where people "get you"?
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      • Author by cst (June 03, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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        Hey seahawks, why haven't you refuted a single point in the interview? I mean, come on- you still haven't defended Beck's creepy impression of Obama's daughter, and it's been a full week!
        Sounds as if you just can't handle the increasingly hard job of justifying his antics anymore...
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (June 03, 2010 6:30 pm ET)
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        "If he thinks Beck has a mean streak, then he should do a bio on Chris Mathews or Keith Olberman." --seahawks123

        How could a man who read Thurber to his dying father [Olbermann] have a mean streak? I mean, Thurber, for god's sake! Impassioned yes, getting to the facts, not allowing guests to jump around their questions, errrrmmmmm, not so much. I remember Olbermann's mom being trashed talked about as she lay dying in the hospital last spring, and he took it more as a gentleman tham I think I could have, and I'm not of the male gender. All I know is that I empathized with him having faced the death of my mom in 2003 and my dad in May of 2009. And, while I'm not really a fan of Matthews, at least he has more political experience than Beck.

        Of course, this is MHO.
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        • Author by jms (June 04, 2010 9:55 am ET)
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          The fact that you know what Obie read to his dying father tells me all I need to know about him. He WANTED you to know that, whether it is true or not.
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          • Author by poiks (June 04, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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            If you think that's all you need to know about a person to assess him, you were simply looking for evidence to confirm what you wanted to believe. I'll best your assessment of Beck is more charitable.
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          • Author by coldteablues19577325 (June 04, 2010 1:46 pm ET)
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            "The fact that you know what Obie read to his dying father tells me all I need to know about him. He WANTED you to know that, whether it is true or not." --jms

            Perhaps you are right, however; before you start judging what anyone states they have done for a dying parent, sibling, family member or friend, I hope you do so having been through the situation. I also said that I felt empathy for Olbermann having also spent countless hours by my dying mother's bedside reading novels that I had no interest in but were by one of her favorite authors. I'm taking Olbermann's word that he did indeed read Thurber to his father as he [Thurber] was a favorite of his dad's. You see that's one thing that you can do to help someone you love pass over easier. I even read from the bible the night my mom died, and I haven't been to church in over 20 years, but out of love and respect for her I read some of her favorite passages to her.

            Your hatefulness and judegmentalism here, like a lady's slip, is showing a bit.
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      • Author by poiks (June 04, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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        If you think calling Sarah Palin an "idiot" is mean, maybe. Most sentient beings see that as a reasonable assessment.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (June 04, 2010 9:10 pm ET)
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        Couldn't address the facts again, huh sea chicken? That's kind of a pattern with you, innit? Avoiding reality for self-affirming pablum?
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 06, 2010 3:43 am ET)
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        Your attempt at equivalency simply fails. No comparison between Beck and those two. Unfortunately, the facts are all on the tape. Beck had an issue with her husband but he did call a woman and laughed on air at the fact that she had a miscarriage. That is a fact whether you like it or not. You can think that his action was noble and did not deserve scorn and that exposing that disgusting thing is unfair. But in the end it is a fact that can be verified by the tapes of the show. And that, my friend, does NOT represent the values of our Church whatsoever.
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    • Author by pilotx (June 03, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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      False equivalencies, misinformation and not taking history in context is stock in trade for the modern conservative. Dough has already tried to tell us MLK was GOP and defend Beck when he claimed he was the true defender of MLK's legacy so what do you expect? Anyone who admires/believes Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and/or any right wing commentator is starting at a disadvantage.
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      • Author by mary59 (June 03, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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        How true. It's important to choose one's role models carefully. Beck the train wreck is definately not a good one. And HIS role models are quite awful as well.
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    • Author by jms (June 04, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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      This book will be well received in the Media Matters for America Vacuum.
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      • Author by pilotx (June 04, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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        But not in the Fox News vacuum huh?
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      • Author by KLM (June 06, 2010 3:19 am ET)
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        No matter what you or Seahawks or anyone else who loves to lap up Becks crap want to say about this book you can not argue about any of this being false. It is all well documented truth (beside the opinions which any adult can recognize). Everything he says in the book outside of opinions is already documented and old news. You have yet to address that this man is the kind of scum that would actually make fun of a woman who had a miscarriage, had Obama done that you'd be calling him the anti-christ already and yet Beck gets a pass? How naive could you possibly be? You can rationalize it however you want and say it's leftist garbage but it doesn't change the fact that it's all true and always will be. Say what you want you can not combat the truth.
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    • Author by johnbrown (June 04, 2010 5:52 pm ET)
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      I knew Beck was a fraud and a phony way back during the Iraq War back in 2003 when he lied about Jessica Lynch.I find this man dangerous and this fall if we have a Republican/Tea-Party Congress I'll know for sure.I think its very foolish to ignore him.Where I live I know alot of people listen to his garbage.
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    • Author by jstephens005 (June 05, 2010 10:50 am ET)
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      OMG! This author is a HUGE d-bag. I cannot believe how many times in this pathetic interview he admitted to drawing his own conclusions, using his communist/socialist/progressive slant to create candy for the mindless nutjobs on this website. Geez.

      I am so happy that Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, and anyone else who believes in personal liberty, freedom, and the foundations of this great nation are making the crazy left go NUTS!

      WooHoo!!!
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      • Author by congero6189599 (June 05, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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        I like when you wingnuts show-up with your jokes. lol.
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      • Author by cst (June 05, 2010 8:17 pm ET)
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        I note none of Beck's defenders have actually refuted any of the points in the article. Can we take that as an acknowledgement that they're true?
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        • Author by KLM (June 06, 2010 3:24 am ET)
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          You have a point cst. Not one can change the truth so they don't argue with it. Instead they call us all lefties but don't acknowledge that this man actually did the things mentioned. Yes the opinions are in this book because the man is an author but any adult can make the distinction between opinions and cold hard facts. Observe:

          Fact: Beck made fun of a woman who had a miscarriage. You can't argue with that

          Opinion: Beck is a psychotic sociopath.

          That hasn't been proven by any doctors but I bet it could be, we'd never know about it though because Becky doesn't want us to know what really goes on in his mind unless it'll make money.

          I dare any one of you wingnuts to actually attack what is common knowledge and facts about Becks questionable behavior? Can you try to even defend such behavior? No, you can not and it's hypocritical to let him off the hook when anyone else with that record would be considered a demon if he didn't have (in your cases create) your political views!
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      • Author by mari2jj (June 06, 2010 3:59 am ET)
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        Sorry to tell you this, but you do sound very delusional Just remember, your saying stuff does not change the facts and this author was absolutely right on the facts. His comments about Beck’s call to the wife of one of his enemies who had just miscarried a child and then laughing about it. He actually laughed at her loss. And that is on the tape. Also, remember, he just attacked President Obama's daughter and he has since had to apologize on air for his insult. Who knows how sincere his apology was but I take him at his word on that one. His behavior is not in keeping with the norms of our Church.
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      • Author by oneleft (June 06, 2010 7:22 am ET)
           
        dude, you have something to offer beyond what your handlers have told you? anything at all? i mean, communist/socialist/progressive slant simply will not fly. how's about something like how your list of unqualified celebrities who are just running their mouths define the foundation of this great nation.
        have anything with some substance to offer? no? nothing at all?
        ok pumpkin, it's sunday morning and i'm sure that nose ring is being tugged. time for you to sit in front of boob tube.
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