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Fox & Friends' God complex

June 16, 2010 9:35 am ET by Simon Maloy

If there's one thing Fox & Friends loves, it's religion. Christianity, to be specific. The Fox News morning show hosts relish and celebrate those who are outspoken in their Christian beliefs and will not hesitate to defend anyone who mentions God in the public square. Except, of course, if that person is President Obama.

Implausible as it may seem, the crew of Fox & Friends this morning -- the same people who fawningly report on pro-God billboards and rally to the cause of book-banning activist Christians -- criticized the president for asking Americans to pray for the nation and for the people of the Gulf during his speech last night. Gretchen Carlson claimed "some people" said Obama's words were "disingenuous" because they came "from a president who does not go to church on a regular basis." Who exactly was saying that? We never find out, but "some people" can't be wrong, right?

Just how ridiculous was this situation? Thrice-married adulterer Newt Gingrich was forced into the position of lecturing his Fox & Friends hosts on how to be a good Christian, telling them that they had to be "generous" to anyone "prepared to publicly recognize God."

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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (June 16, 2010 9:46 am ET)
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      When ever Fox uses the phrase, "some people", just substitute the phrase, "I'm making this stuff up"

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      • Author by Bad News (June 16, 2010 10:49 am ET)
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        That's me in the corner
        That's me in the spotlight
        i'm losing my religion
        trying to keep up with you
        and i don't know if i can do it
        oh no, i've said too much
        i haven't said enough

        and i know, i know "i'm making this stuff up"
        Gretchen Carlson, someday "The Poet's" gonna ruff you up.
        Keep on talking, cause i'm tracking every single word you say.
        Yes you're my mission, someday "The Poet's" gonna Rhyme you away.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2010 9:46 am ET)
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      Evangelical snobbery, perhaps? My fairy tales are better than your fairy tales?

      This is common among fanatics of most religions. They think they've got exclusive access to "the truth", and everybody else is going to burn in Hell for eternity. Maybe such theological schadenfreude is what attracts them to religion in the first place.

      Even among Christians, some sects think all the other sects are doomed to Hell. Evangelical nutbags like Sarah Palin think Mormons like Glenn Beck are destined for eternal torture at the hands of their loving God. The Mormons, of course, are just as delusional, with their magic underwear and post mortem conversions.

      It's madness.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 16, 2010 10:20 am ET)
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        It IS [madness.]

        I don;t knoww if you saw it, but awhile back I wrote a piece on my blog observing that regardless of how religious you are, you can usually find someone who (1) is more religious than you are, and (2) that you consequently think is at least a little crazy. Now, if you realize jsut how many people that applies to - just about everyone - you can establish a clear positive correlation between the amount of religious someone is and they amount of crazy they are.

        Moderately religious people? Very little crazy. Evangelicals? A lot more crazy. Cults? A whole lot of crazy. Terrorists? Well... you get the idea. And I really believe this hodls true of ALL religion - Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, Buddism, Wiccah... you name it. All ask me to accept things that are no better than superstitions as absolute truths. And THAT'S just CRAZY! And naything they preach that IS a unversally inherent good is something that already preached bu secular humanists anyway, without all the other mental baggage.

        So I posed the question... If the amount of crazy I am (all else being equal) is "X" times the amount of religious I am... WHY would I want "X" to be anything but ZERO?!

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        Just sayin'.

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        • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2010 10:53 am ET)
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          Interesting observation. In my experience, some of the most reasonable people I've ever met were atheists. I've known some reasonable religious people, as well, but they weren't very dogmatic about it.

          Most of the devoutly religious people I've known have been batsh*t crazy.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (June 16, 2010 11:03 am ET)
               
            And the thing is...? If those devout Christians were to find someone EVEN MORE religious than they were? They'd inevitably think that THOSE people were the crazy ones! So this hypothesis of mine holds true regardless of where you happen to stand on the spectrum! You do not need to be an atheist to see this in action. (Only to appreciate the implication!)

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            LOL
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      • Author by timesthree (June 16, 2010 10:32 am ET)
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        They didn't like it when Obama was going to the WRONG church.
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        • Author by RedChocobo (June 16, 2010 12:15 pm ET)
             
          I'm sure they still believe that Obama follows Islam and they don't like that he didn't phrase it as "Prey to our Christian God" instead of his non-denominational choice of words.
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    • Author by papa bear3 (June 16, 2010 10:18 am ET)
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      . . . who are these "some people" and why are they so knowledgeable?

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    • Author by jediknight65 (June 16, 2010 10:33 am ET)
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      being that you have newt contributing to your show.....you can't really call yourselves chirstians, your just hypocrites
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    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (June 16, 2010 10:37 am ET)
         
      For the record, Wretched Carlson trolling the talking point of the day does not "some people" make. As for me, I want to see a full DNA workup on her before I'll concede that she's even human...
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    • Author by everettbme (June 16, 2010 10:52 am ET)
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      Let's do a little FOX style rework here:

      Gretchen Carlson claimed "dumb people" said Obama's words were "disingenuous" because they came "from a president who does not go to the same church they go to on a regular basis."

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    • Author by peace4all (June 16, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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      these fox and fiend people really need to give the god thing a rest. when you lie and bear false witness as much as they do i don't think you really want to be attracting the attention of god.
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    • Author by clearstate (June 16, 2010 11:30 am ET)
         
      The phrase "some people" actually means that its in Roger Ailes' talking points for the day so we have to make it sound like lots of people agree with him without bringing up his name. Basically, if Roger Ailes' believes it, then he wants everyone to think that a lot of people agree with him. This also holds true for anything that the RNC wants to peddle on Fox.
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    • Author by jflz201884 (June 16, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
         
      Gretchen Carlson & Co. couldn't imagine how well Obama connected with that religious ending. By pointing up "The Blessing of the Fleet," he evoked not only spiritual values but the deep pride the region's fishermen take in their work. That, in turn, suggests how much it would take to "make them whole" -- not merely a check from British Petroleum but a restoration of their way of life. Obama wasn't pitching to Fox and Friends or to any others in the Beltway news media. That part of the speech was meant for the shrimpers and others who are in mourning just now. I expect polls will show how people appreciate it. Not just "some people" but lots of them, including those who, like me, live 1,000 miles from the Gulf of Mexico.

      Incidentally, Gretchen should check on how often President Reagan went to church.

      Jerry Elsea
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      • Author by nerzog (June 16, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
           
        Well said. I will venture to add that Obama's approval rating among Gulf Coast fishermen will be directly related to how fast they get their checks.

        And that's not a criticism, by the way. I don't blame them for being angry... and they deserve to be paid.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (June 16, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
         
      faux = proselytizers
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    • Author by glogrrl (June 16, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
         
      I am sick to death of politicians (especially presidents) invoking the deity, be it God, Mohammad, Allah, Yahweh, whom/whatever.

      This country was founded on freedom of religion—or freedom FROM religion, and all citizens, religious or atheistic, should have equal say–we certainly suffer equally.

      The only “god” who we should be praying to right now is probably The Great Spirit of the Native American culture, because He/She is the one who is the shepherd of the Earth, which man has continued to rape since the industrial age. Once Mother Earth has been pounded into submission—where are we gonna go?

      So, politicians (and Faux & Fiends), STFU about gods and praying…just quit defiling Mother Earth for profit and start figuring out a way to redeem what little resources are left, or praying will be the least of our problems.

      Oh, and BTW—-Newt Gingrich, you wretched excuse for a human being–YOU should NEVER invoke the name of God or even begin to criticize anyone for not being godly enough. YOU are one of the most sinful hypocrites of the Rethuglican or of any other party, and apparently have no shame.

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    • Author by slappymagoo (June 16, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
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      By saying "Some people are saying" they insure some people WILL be saying. Plant the seed. Watch it grow.
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