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Breaking! Liberal journalists talked to each other before signing an open letter criticizing a terrible debate!!

July 20, 2010 8:45 am ET by Julie Millican

Another day, another right-wing media freak out. Today, the right is in a tizzy over a Daily Caller exclusive scoop that "documents show media plotting to kill stories about Rev. Jeremiah Wright." Except, of course, their "documents" show no such thing.

The Daily Caller purports to have obtained copies of emails from the "Journolist" listserv, which they report is "comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists." Their big, breaking story exposes that some liberal journalists and a professor were outraged by an April 2008 Democratic Presidential primary debate -- a debate that was widely criticized as being "specious and gossipy." As you may recall, during that debate Obama was asked questions such as, "Do you think Reverend Wright loves America as much as you do?"; "How do you convince Democrats" that not wearing an American flag lapel pin "would not be a vulnerability?"; and "Can you explain" your "relationship" with Bill Ayers, a question that was literally suggested to moderator George Stephanopoulos by right-wing radio hosts.

The debate was, in a word, ridiculous. And numerous media figures agreed. The Daily Caller highlights portions of the purported Journolist emails which showed several participants discussing how best to frame and word an open letter to ABC News condemning the debate. Each of the media figures mentioned in the Daily Caller report was an opinion columnist or a blogger. Hardly the stuff of a mainstream media conspiracy, though the Caller desperately tried to paint it as such. They specifically said that journalists from Time and Politico were involved in the discussion, but the article provides absolutely no evidence to back this up.

So, yes, it appears that the big scandal is that liberal journalists and professors talked to each other about how to frame a publically released letter to ABC News. Stop the presses!

Expanding on the stupidity of the Daily Caller report is the fact that many of these same journalists were very clear and very open about their displeasure with the ABC news debate at the time.

The Guardian's Michael Tomasky called the debate "awful" and chided the media for pushing "this kind of guilty-by-association" attacks, as ABC did by questioning Obama's relationship with Ayers. He also said of the debate: "The main point is how poorly the inanity and irresponsibility of this approach serves a country in which people are genuinely worried about genuinely important things." Salon's Joe Conason assailed "[t]he sorry performance of ABC anchors Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos" and predicted that it "should serve as a signal of the coverage to come. Playing gotcha with Democrats and patty-cake with Republicans will remain basic operating procedure for the mainstream media this year, no different from the past half-dozen presidential campaigns -- except that the additional bias in favor of John McCain may make a bad situation worse."

Yet, to the right, the Daily Caller's story is nothing short of a revelation. Andrew Breitbart cites it as "prov[ing] beyond a shadow of doubt that most media organizations are either complicit by participation in the treachery that is Journolist, or are guilty of sitting back and watching Alinsky warfare being waged against all that challenged the progressive orthodoxy." He calls the journalists on the listserv "nothing but street thugs" who "deserve the deepest levels of public consternation." He then adds:

The only way that the media will recover from the horrifying discoveries found in the Journolist is to investigate and investigate until every guilty reporter, professor and institution is laid bare begging America for forgiveness. Will they do it?

Off with their heads!

Erick Erickson claims "it was as we all expected," "members of the media plotted to shut down coverage of Jeremiah Wright." Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft declares "Journolist exposed: Documents prove leftist media hacks buried Rev. Wright story during election." He also describes the story as "the death of journalism," adding "Leftist media hacks on the national scene buried the Jeremiah Wright story to protect their favored candidate." And, of course, Hoft adds some video of Jeremiah Wright, just for fun. Proving once again that right-wing blogs drive their news coverage, Fox News has picked up the nonstory. Fox & Friends stooge Steve Doocy teased a report on the story by saying, that the media was "plotting top kill negative stories about" Rev. Wright "to protect the White House." From Fox & Friends:

Of course, this isn't the first time that the media has freaked out about liberals being liberals. (Remember when Breitbart discovered that some college professors dabble in politics?) And, I promise you this will not be the last.

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    • Author by nerzog (July 20, 2010 8:59 am ET)
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      The Troglodytes are starting to realize that there may be a down side to the naked racism displayed by many Teabaggers. Their defense? Deny the existence of Teabagger racism and hyperventilate over any hint of "reverse racism" on the part of Liberals.

      American voters heard the Reverend Wright story over and over and over.... and then yawned. Most of us don't give a rat's ass about Reverend Wright.

      The infamous USDA lady will be the next big "scandal", even though she's already resigned. The Troglodytes will jump on it as proof positive that Obama hates honkeys.
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      • Author by Mr. Katanga (July 20, 2010 11:00 am ET)
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        "Obama hates honkeys"

        Uh, I believe the term for me is , "Cracka," thank you very much.


        LOL.

        Sadly, this is already gaining feet on one of the websites I read. They think They've exposed the media...again!!!! And why won't America stand up against this sort of BS?!?!?!?

        ugh. Idiots
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      • Author by tikvah (July 21, 2010 9:00 am ET)
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        Nerdzog, why do you lie so blatently? Are you truly that ignorant?
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    • Author by terrapin53 (July 20, 2010 9:25 am ET)
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      Like the right wingers don't do the same thing? Gimme a break already.
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    • Author by papajohn (July 20, 2010 9:28 am ET)
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      Of course, this isn't the first time that the media has freaked out about liberals being liberals. (Remember when Breitbart discovered that some college professors dabble in politics?) And, I promise you this will not be the last.

      You also wrote that:

      Salon's Joe Conason assailed "[t]he sorry performance of ABC anchors Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos" and predicted that it "should serve as a signal of the coverage to come. Playing gotcha with Democrats and patty-cake with Republicans will remain basic operating procedure for the mainstream media this year, no different from the past half-dozen presidential campaigns -- except that the additional bias in favor of John McCain may make a bad situation worse."

      Are Stephanopoulos and Gibson part of the "liberals being liberals" crowd?
      It is the Mainstream Media (Corporate Media) that are all about perpetuating mindless subject matter to an increasingly mindless audience.

      John
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    • Author by JayTea (July 20, 2010 10:22 am ET)
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      Gee, none of my other comments ever get approved, so let's try it again.

      Would Media Matters care to address this quote from the JournoList discussion?

      <i>The members began collaborating on their open letter. Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones rejected an early draft, saying, “I’d say too short. In my opinion, it doesn’t go far enough in highlighting the inanity of some of [Gibson's] and [Stephanopoulos’s] questions. And it doesn’t point out their factual inaccuracies …Our friends at Media Matters probably have tons of experience with this sort of thing, if we want their input.”</i>

      Were you ever contacted over this?

      J.
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      • Author by JayTea (July 20, 2010 11:57 am ET)
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        My apologies for the mangled cut-and paste. I'll retype it directly:

        The members began collaborating on their open letter. Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones rejected an early draft, saying "I'd say too short. In my opinion, it doesn't go far enough in highlighting the inanity of some of [Gibson's] and [Stephanopoulos'] questions. And it doesn't point out their factual inaccuracies. Our friends at Media Matters probably have tons of experience with this sort of thing, if we want their input.

        (Emphasis added)

        J.
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        • Author by shaggles (July 20, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
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          Why would it matter if they were contacted? Is Media Matters the MSM?
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        • Author by open_mind (July 21, 2010 11:53 am ET)
             
          What is your point? Of course media matters has "tons of experience with this sort of thing". Ummm... Duh?
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    • Author by toma29 (July 20, 2010 11:12 am ET)
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      Did you forget to include this in your piece, Julie?

      "The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged. “George [Stephanopoulos],” fumed Richard Kim of the Nation, is “being a disgusting little rat snake.”"

      Or this?

      "In one instance, Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”"

      Or this?

      "The members began collaborating on their open letter. Jonathan Stein of Mother Jones rejected an early draft, saying, “I’d say too short. In my opinion, it doesn’t go far enough in highlighting the inanity of some of [Gibson's] and [Stephanopoulos’s] questions. And it doesn’t point out their factual inaccuracies …Our friends at Media Matters probably have tons of experience with this sort of thing, if we want their input.”"

      And here's one more for the non-story crowd that shows the lovely nature of Spencer Ackerman.

      "What is necessary is to raise the cost on the right of going after the left. In other words, find a rightwinger’s [sic] and smash it through a plate-glass window. Take a snapshot of the bleeding mess and send it out in a Christmas card to let the right know that it needs to live in a state of constant fear. Obviously I mean this rhetorically."

      I know it's just liberals talking, right?


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      • Author by djur (July 20, 2010 2:14 pm ET)
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        So your example of secret leftist fulminations come from:

        • Spencer Ackerman, who wrote for the leftish Washington Independent, the lefty Talking Points Memo, and operates a blog, 'ATTACKERMAN', on the lefty redoubt Firedoglake;
        • A writer for Mother Jones;
        • A writer for the Nation.

        Look out! Lefty bloggers and writers at the two best-known left-leaning journals in the country are secret liberals!
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      • Author by internet soldier (July 20, 2010 2:24 pm ET)
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        Toma, can you provide some citation for that Ackerman quote? It appears to have just one source.

        Furthermore, the media figures who put together this open letter were definately not MSM and were openly liberal. The media figures (George Stephonopoulos and Charles Gibson) who asked petty, substance free questions at the democratic debate were MSM. They did this because right wing radio hosts requested it.

        I know, how terribly unjust that there is any opposition at all to the irrelevent stories driven by the vast right-wing noise machine. The media should only report substance free gossip for the political benefit of republicans. Could the world be any more unfair to right-wingers? Always the victims, you wingnuts.
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        • Author by open_mind (July 21, 2010 11:29 am ET)
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          Internet soldier, google is only supposed to pay attention to the first 10 words. Going beyond that and using characters with formating errors will give mixed results. Enclose 10 fairly unique looking words within double quotes (") - like this - and you will have better luck.
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        • Author by doughpro1604643 (July 22, 2010 1:49 pm ET)
             
          They did this because right wing radio hosts requested it.


          Do you have proof of that?
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      • Author by eyesore (July 21, 2010 1:20 pm ET)
           
        Wow, an example of liberals being liberal and OH NO ! they have tactics...god forbid.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (July 22, 2010 10:27 am ET)
             
          The problem is their tactics helped usher in an unqualified president. Nice going lads.
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    • Author by JayTea (July 20, 2010 11:17 am ET)
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      Also, no comment on the part where one member of JournoList suggests they pick a target and just start calling them racist? I believe the names proffered were Fred Barnes and Karl Rove...

      J.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (July 20, 2010 8:03 pm ET)
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        that's right. they were taking a page out of the Karl Rove playbook, speculating about how he might feel being beaten at his own game. not seriously considering it, or even if they were...they were opinion writers and unabashed liberals. got that? I didn't think so.
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      • Author by open_mind (July 21, 2010 11:41 am ET)
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        Of course, these are all just emails. What does it matter? Did Ackerman or any other members of the group call some random Republican mouthpiece "racist" for no apparent reason? Can you cite a specific relevant example of this? Did any such comment end up in the open letter? Because I saw no instance in the letter of calling some random conservative a "racist" to change the subject. In fact, I see no mention of race at all in the letter whatsoever. Do you?
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    • Author by PaulCooper (July 20, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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      How convenient that you did not respond to the Daily Caller's uncovering that journalists promoted a strategy of calling various conservatives racist, so that they would be defensive and the heat would go off Obama. What a sad attempt at a reply to the Daily Caller and an obvious failure to brush things under the rug.
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      • Author by internet soldier (July 20, 2010 4:13 pm ET)
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        How convenient that you did not respond to the Daily Caller's uncovering that journalists promoted a strategy of calling various conservatives racist,


        Is there any source for this claim by the daily caller? As far as I can tell, there is none. I keep trying to get one of you guys to explain this.

        Btw, "paulcooper", "Jaytea" and "toma29", are you all the same person? Two of you appear to be completely new posters here to comment on this one item (looky, looky). And JayTea, you have said in the past that you are the editor of wizbangblog, which is hyping this story. Defend yourselves/self.
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    • Author by Oldphoto678 (July 20, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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      It's a real nice story, but so far that's all it is. I read the artical, but I didn't see any proof offered. All I found was hearsay. You have to have proof if you want me to believe it. Not just the word of some wingnut blog.
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    • Author by smedley (July 20, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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      Better trolls, please! The trolls here are too stupid to understand the difference between lefty bloggers and pundits plotting a political strategy and "The Liberal Media." What a bunch of thumbsucking morans!
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    • Author by MaineiacMan (July 20, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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      Spencer Ackerman, a so-called journalist with the Washington Independent told his buddies in the 'journolist' to take attention away from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. He wrote "Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”

      Here is a 'journalist' not trying to uncover real racism by investigating and researching. Instead he wanted to conduct a baseless smear campaign against any figure on the Right for political purposes.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (July 20, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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        Better trolls please I agree smedley.
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      • Author by internet soldier (July 20, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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        Maineiac, thus far the only source for that Ackerman quote is a blog that provides no citation.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (July 20, 2010 8:05 pm ET)
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        as I said above, imitation of Rove's tactics is the sincerest form of mockery.
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      • Author by open_mind (July 21, 2010 11:51 am ET)
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        Here is a 'journalist' not trying to uncover real racism by investigating and researching. Instead he wanted to conduct a baseless smear campaign against any figure on the Right for political purposes. --MaineiacMan
        So all you have to do is find an instance where Ackerman actually did what he was talking about in his email. Got any examples of that? Otherwise, isn't it all just talk?
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    • Author by kyle b.c. (July 20, 2010 2:53 pm ET)
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      things like this make me wish for an actual controversy from out of the Obama White House. these "news" stories the right-wing media "uncover" are getting old.
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      • Author by Jimmy Loves You (July 21, 2010 4:30 am ET)
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        You people are drones. Wake up and think for yourself.
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    • Author by snoopchick (July 20, 2010 5:19 pm ET)
         
      please learn how to spell journalist
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    • Author by q3p (July 21, 2010 12:59 am ET)
         
      i don't get it....why would america vote in a guy for president when he is good, very good friends with bill ayers...for god sake obama started his bid for president at the home of bill ayers
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    • Author by j238 (July 21, 2010 7:01 am ET)
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      So the signers of an *open* letter cooperated in its composition two years ago.

      The right has found something evil in that?
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      • Author by LibLieDestroyer (July 21, 2010 7:24 am ET)
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        Yes, because the "open letter" conveniently left out the plot to make baseless allegations of racism against conservatives to deflect criticism of Obama...

        Seems like their strategy hasn't changed much in two years...
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    • Author by eyesore (July 21, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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      Congrats to the right wing media for overstating the obvious.
      Let us know when you can prove the sun is made of hydrogen and helium.
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    • Author by eyesore (July 21, 2010 1:16 pm ET)
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      Conservatives find liberals being liberal and disusing journalism on a public forum and this is breaking news ?
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