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Beck's incendiary angst is dangerously close to having a body count

July 27, 2010 7:54 am ET by Eric Boehlert

On his Monday radio show, Glenn Beck highlighted claims that before he started targeting a little-known, left-leaning organization called the Tides Foundation on his Fox News TV show, "nobody knew" what the non-profit was.

Indeed, for more than a year Beck has been portraying the progressive organization as a central player in a larger, nefarious cabal of Marxist/socialist/Nazi Obama-loving outlets determined to destroy democracy in America. Beck has routinely smeared the low-profile entity for being staffed by "thugs" and "bullies" and involved in "the nasty of the nastiest," like indoctrinating schoolchildren and creating a "mass organization to seize power."

As Media Matters reported, the conspiratorial host had mentioned (read: attacked) the little-known progressive organization nearly 30 times on his Fox program alone since it premiered in 2009, including several mentions in the last month. (Beck's the only TV talker who regularly references the foundation, according to our Nexis searches.)

So yes, Beck has done all he can to scare the hell out of people about the Tides Foundation and "turn the light of day" onto an organization that actually facilitates non-profit giving.

And guess what? Everybody in America would have found out about the Tides Foundation last week if Byron Williams had had his way. He's the right-wing, government-hating, gun-toting nut who strapped on his body armor, stocked a pickup truck with guns and ammo, and set off up the California coast to San Francisco in order to start killing employees at the previously obscure Tides Foundation in hopes of sparking a political revolution.

Thankfully, the planned domestic terrorist attack never came to pass because California Highway Patrol officers pulled Williams over for drunk driving on his way to his killing spree. Williams quickly opened fire, wounding two officers during a lengthy shootout. Luckily, Williams wasn't able to act out the ultimate goal of his dark anger -- fueled by the TV news he watched -- about how "Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," as his mother put it. Williams wasn't able to open fire inside the offices of the Tides Foundation, an organization "nobody knew" about until Glenn Beck started targeting it.

And thankfully, Williams wasn't able to take his place alongside a growing list of domestic, anti-government terrorists, such as the recent Pentagon shooter, the Holocaust Museum gunman, the kamikaze pilot who flew his plane into an IRS building in Austin, Texas, and the Pittsburgh cop-killer who set up an ambush because he was convinced Obama was going to take away his guns.

All the vigilante attacks appear to have been fueled by an almost pathological hatred for the U.S. government -- the same open hatred that right-wing bloggers, AM talk radio hosts, and Fox News' lineup of anti-government prophets have been frantically fueling for the last year, pushing doomsday warnings of America's democratic demise under President Obama.

And the sad the sad truth is we're going to see more like Byron Williams. We're going to see more attempts at vigilante violence during the Age of Obama simply because the right-wing media, led by Beck, continue to gleefully (albeit irresponsibly) stoke dangerous fires with the kind of relentlessly incendiary rhetoric that has no match in terms of modern day, mainstream use in American politics or media.

Just listen to Glenn Beck: 

And don't forget about the unhinged response when health care reform was passed in March: "Get down on your knees and pray. Pray. It's September 11th all over again, except that we didn't have the collapsing buildings." After financial reform passed last week, Beck told his audience, "Your republic is over."

Meanwhile, Andrew Breitbart's website recently tagged Obama as the "suicide-bomber-in-chief," while the conservative Washington Times just last week published an op-ed -- by a former congressman, no less -- asserting the president poses more of a threat to America than Al Qaeda.

Note that the radical right's media rhetoric is no longer even political in a partisan sense. Instead, it's purely revolutionary. It isn't, "We think taxes should be lower" or "Obama should be more hawkish overseas." It's, "There's an insidious and deadly plot afoot by Democrats and progressives to strip Americans of their freedom and this country of its greatness." Obama is now the incarnation of evil (the Antichrist?), and his driving hatred for America, as well as for democracy, runs so deep that he ran for president in order to destroy the United States from inside the Oval Office.

Rush Limbaugh: "Our country is being overthrown from within."

And this summer, the latest toxic twist to that line of attack is that Obama is destroying America on purpose in order to exact revenge from white America for the historic sin of slavery. (Think: Black Manchurian Candidate.) The GOP Noise Machine is now mixing a vile cocktail by stirring revolutionary rhetoric with hateful race-baiting.

It's impossible to argue that today's avalanche of insurrectionist rhetoric doesn't have a real world effect. Or that those on the fringes don't find comfort in seeing and hearing their worst fears legitimized on AM radio and Fox News.

The consequences of the doomsday programming seem entirely predictable. As Jeffrey Jones, a professor of media and politics at Old Dominion University, recently explained to The New York Times in regard to Beck's rhetoric, "People hear their values are under attack and they get worried. It becomes an opportunity for them to stand up and do something."

Indeed, the relentless message that right-wing audiences hear is unequivocal and inescapable: Do something! Take action!

And last week, Byron Williams, likely inspired by Glenn Beck's Tides obsession, grabbed his guns and set out to do just that. 

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (July 27, 2010 8:06 am ET)
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      I am convinced Glenn Beck and others like him actually want an armed revolution. If it was succesful Beck would suggest that he was a driving force behind it. If it failed Beck would disclaim any connection to it. There is only one thing that tops Beck's revolutionary fervor...and that is his greedy compulsion to make tons and tons and tons of money.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 27, 2010 8:36 am ET)
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        Three years ago, such an idea was unimaginable. But now, two years into the term of our first black President, a NeoConfederate dementia has consumed the Republican Party.

        There's a Troglodyte gubernatorial candidate in Tennessee named Zach Wamp, who has a very good chance of winning. He blurted out some secessionist nonsense the other day, and had to backpedal. The fact that he even entertained such an idea is frightening.

        These morons actually seem to long for the good old days of the 1850s. Unfortunately, most of them don't know sh!t about history. Their knowledge of the American Civil War is largely limited to the "Forget, Hell" license plate Uncle Zeke had on his pickup truck.

        It's f***ing crazy.
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        • Author by IRONY 101 (July 27, 2010 8:47 am ET)
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          I agree...it's reached a level of insanity that makes me uncomfortable. As I say all the time to friends and family, it's not conservative political beliefs that bother me so much...it's the absolute craziness and unreality swirling around the right. Diversity of thought is good...insanity is bad. Unfortunately there are people who are plaing into that insanity to grab power.
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          • Author by magnolialover (July 27, 2010 9:02 am ET)
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            It has, indeed, reached a level we've not seen, I don't think, forever. Sure, there was a lot of stuff going on in the Clinton years, but they've had almost a decade to perfect their on air hatred of all things democratic before Obama came along.

            Just their rhetoric, while not being outright violent, has undertones of violence. And people, they pick up on that very easily, especially those amongst us who can't see their way past the, well, rhetoric. They take it at face value.

            Our country is being destroyed. Obama is a Nazi (only the most hated of all groups ever). Obama is a socialist (sounds like those dangerous commies we wanted to kill for all of those years). Turning the US into a 3rd world country.

            And so on.

            Words incite. And I will be happy when one day, those who utter those words are held accountable for what they've done, and said. And not just through a loss of a job, but through prosecution in a court of law.
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          • Author by bintx (July 27, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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            Conservatism is not evil, nor is liberalism . . . what we are seeing now with Beck, Rush, Fox and the rest of the hate talkers, and their mindless followers, has nothing to do with conservatism at all. It's about power and money, that's all.
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        • Author by barscotch9441 (July 27, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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          There was a man at a Teabag rally near my hometown a few months ago who summed up his involvement in the movement by saying that he looks at "the original idea for this country" (his real words) and where our country is today and he realizes he wants his grandkids growing up in the country the way it used to be.

          I felt so justified in hating the Tea Party movement after reading that, because he's basically saying "let's go back to the days when black people were slaves (of course that was a matter of government policy, ironically enough) and women couldn't vote (another government policy).
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 27, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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            Hey, seperate water fountains means shorter lines for everyone, right?

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            This traitorous scum sickens me.
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            • Author by poproxx77 (July 28, 2010 5:37 pm ET)
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              I can't believe you are actually commenting on such an ignorant comment. I consider you to be one of the more reasonable thinkers who post on MMFA. :(
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          • Author by poproxx77 (July 28, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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            Barscotch- Why are you assuming he meant a return to slavery, and returning women to the kitchen. Neither of which were the “original idea” of this country. I don’t remember the founding fathers declaration of independence as a response to emancipation of African slaves, or women’s rights imposed by King George on the colonies.

            I understand that you feel impressed to tell other people what they are thinking though. It seems to be a disease here at MMFA. I hope I don’t catch it.

            P.S. Hating someone because you project your false presumptions onto another person is a really REALLY REALLY REALLY bad reason to hate a person or an organization. Presumptuous projections are the root of racism.
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          • Author by poproxx77 (July 28, 2010 5:45 pm ET)
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            Barscotch- Why are you assuming he meant a return to slavery, and returning women to the kitchen. Neither of which were the “original idea” of this country. I don’t remember the founding fathers declaration of independence as a response to emancipation of African slaves, or women’s rights imposed by King George on the colonies.

            I understand that you feel impressed to tell other people what they are thinking though. It seems to be a disease here at MMFA. I hope I don’t catch it.

            P.S. Hating someone because you project your false presumptions onto another person is a really REALLY REALLY REALLY bad reason to hate a person or an organization. Presumptuous projections are the root of racism.
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        • Author by achrispage6992 (July 28, 2010 7:56 am ET)
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          Whats even worse is one of the other Republican candidates in Tennessee, Ron Ramsey, thinks an argument can be made that Islam is not a religion but rather a cult.

          Seriously, these effin politicians must appeal to the lowest common denominator of their base or face the consequences of having a talk radio host criticize them. The Republican Party is sick with a vile cancer that is sucking the life from it. Soon all that will be left is people like Beck, Limbaugh and their followers. Obviously, there isn't enough room for more than one raging narcissist so they'll soon begin eating each other. does anyone really think Limbaugh would stand in line behind Beck? I say just let the SOB's lie in the bed they are making. Boehlert is right, sooner of later more people are going to get killed by some crazed follower of these people. Americans seem to have little patience for revolutionary movements, especially once people start dying. Beck is on a collision course for a epic downfall and poor ol' Rupert Murdoch doesn't see it coming.
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          • Author by louee (July 29, 2010 11:27 am ET)
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            My simple question is (and I know I'm preaching to the choir here), WHY WOULD ANYONE VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN unless they are rich and powerful and don't give a damn about their country or their fellow humans? They've been responsible for the diminishment of the middle class, the crippling of our government and infrastructure, the financial meltdown, the trashing of the environment, the rise once more of racist attitudes, and the failure to recognize the threat of global warming. In other words, Republicans are only good for delivering the dough to their rich and powerful supporters. And Democrats are better only when compared to Republicans. I despair when I see the ignorance of my fellow citizens resulting in, once more, the probability that Republicans will control the legislature.
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            • Author by srichardson (July 29, 2010 1:47 pm ET)
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              louee, I know what you mean. Some of the poorest people I know vote republican. It shocks me! But, these people vote republican for only one issues: GUNS! The rednecks are terrified that Obama or any democrat will take away their guns. If not guns, they vote republican bc of abortion, like the republicans care about that issue. Most poor or lower middle class people who vote republican vote on one issue only. It's sad that they can't take the time to educate themselves on the political parties but they don't care, they just want to keep their guns and make abortion illegal.
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        • Author by AC_Mem (July 29, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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          PLEASE don't say those words! (Wimp winning) - I live in Memphis and it would be a horrible thing.

          Having said that, you wouldn't believe the attack ads on television. We are completely saturated with them over and over. And its all republican against republican, who is the most conservative, who voted with the <gasp> (literally, the announcer gasped!) democrats. I've seen only one democratic television ad so far.

          We have republicans who are crossing party lines in the preliminary election to vote for Steve Cohen and apparently some democrats who are voting republican to try to keep Wimp out of the running in November.

          These are interesting times.
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      • Author by barscotch9441 (July 27, 2010 9:18 am ET)
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        Sure, they want that. If, God forbid, it ever were to happen, though, you would probably suddenly find them very hard to find. They'd be cowering and waiting for the smoke to clear, ready to either move to Chile or some other damn place if they lost, or take over as politicians if they won. If you act this way for a war, it's called being a chickenhawk. I wonder if it's the same term when you act that way in a revolution.
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      • Author by roland (July 27, 2010 9:27 am ET)
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        I think that's where all this "reverse racism" stuff comes in. If violence does occur, the righties who fomented it will now be able to blame the minorities and liberals for somehow starting it. In their world of "up is down" and "black is white" (literally), it will be easy to do so - and their minions (and the MSM) will dutifully fall in line to promote that argument.
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      • Author by Another_Cat (July 27, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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        True, it would suck; but wouldn't be the ultimate irony if his revolution took place but instead of his utopia where he not only leads "his people" and makes oodles of money, we just wound up with a post-apocolyptic version of America? One of those where the rich with no survival skills (read: Beck) are the first to be "eaten" (figuratively, one would hope, but I guess that would depend on what his revolution does to food production, wouldn't it?).
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    • Author by Major Tom (July 27, 2010 8:28 am ET)
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      Perhaps acts of violence, in the past, have been only tenuously tied to talk radio, but this act attempted by Williams has a direct link to Beck and his daily rantings against the government, but more importantly, against progressives. Beck can spend 30 seconds every show telling his audience to stay away from violence, but it will not over-rule the 30 minutes he spends telling his uneducated followers that their children are in danger, and that the 'left' wants to destroy the country- not to mention the violent language used by Beck to gat his ratings.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 27, 2010 8:40 am ET)
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        Of course. This numbnuts tells his brain dead zombies that Liberals are enemies of God who want to tear down the Republic.

        Even though he's lying, and most of us know he's lying, does it not occur to him or his employers that a few unhinged individuals might actually think he's telling the truth?
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        • Author by magnolialover (July 27, 2010 9:03 am ET)
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          I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I work with some guys who are downright smart, and intelligent, except, when they listen to Beck, or others like him (Limbaugh, et all). They believe them. Hook. Line. And sinker.
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          • Author by IRONY 101 (July 27, 2010 9:18 am ET)
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            Then they are actually not as smart as you give them credit for...or their intelligence is mitigated by serious emotional problems.
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            • Author by barscotch9441 (July 27, 2010 9:32 am ET)
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              I like to call it "willful gullibility". They have possibly one or two serious issues like racism or tax-hate that they probably don't even know where it stems from. They cling to the guy who justifies that fear or hate.
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              • Author by rumpleteasermom (July 27, 2010 11:27 am ET)
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                Actually, I blame it on our schools. We don't understand what smart means anymore because we think 'smart' is being able to remember and quickly recall lots of unrelated information. That's what we test for and that's what we teach. What isn't being taught is how to reason, how to assess whether information is valid, how to look things up, how to use a variety of sources to get a less biased picture of an issue.
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                • Author by didi (July 27, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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                  The ability to reason is not developed enough in grade school and high school because the students are not mature enough to understand how to reason.

                  College seems to be at the forefront in provoking the thought process. Right wing hacks such as Dennis Prager make a career out of trashing colleges as left wing indoctrination mills.

                  Critical thinking is what makes people leaders. Right wing lemmings never reached the point where they are able to think for themselves. So they wallow in their ignorance and strike out at anyone who shatters their beliefs.
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                • Author by srichardson (July 28, 2010 12:21 am ET)
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                  rumple..... Being a teacher, I hate to even agree with you but I do, hook, line and sinker. My fellow teachers and I often talk about the fact that we can no longer teach problem solving in the classroom bc we have to spend the majority of our time teaching a stupid test. Thanks to the republican president! If our students are coming out of schools today less intelligent, blame it on the fact that teachers HAVE to teach to a test to keep their jobs or even keep their school open. Students today are filled with more 'facts' but less common sense and you can blame that on years of republican controlled federal government who insisted on seeing results for their money from public schools so they invented the test until the schools are stripped of all abiity to teach problem solving skills.
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                • Author by poproxx77 (July 28, 2010 6:04 pm ET)
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                  Funny, I blame parents. Why rely on the government and schools to teach your children reasoning? That seems like a very unreasonable idea to me. Leaving something so important up to someone else. Do some of that reasoning and blame the right people, there aren't enough hours in the day for public schools to teach reasoning, math, science, english, spanish, PE, social studies, shop, potty training, and whatever else. We even have classes to teach parents how to be parents, we have classes on sex education, we have classes where kids do homework. What kind of reasoing is that? If its homework...shouldn't it be done at home?

                  I guess if you blame the government for everything, it reasons you expect them to fix everything too. I think that is the fundamental difference here.



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                  • Author by srichardson (July 29, 2010 1:13 am ET)
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                    poproxx77 - What you are saying is very reasonable. Parents should be accountable to teach their children reasoning and problem solving skills. I DO NOT expect the government to "fix everything." If you read what I wrote you'll see I blame the government for being too involved in what we teach students today. The government is the reason we can't teach like we would like to teach. But we have to be realistic. If you are a teacher in a low income area, most parents are either too busy working two or three jobs to put food on the table to be involved in their children's education or they are just bad parents because of drug or alchohol abuse. I live in a rural area and a lot of my students are farm kids. Some of those parents do not put a lot of emphasis on their childrens education bc they expect their children to just work on the farm when they graduate. I totally agree that some parents are not "being" parents and their children pay for that by not being as educated as they could be. Heck, we have kindergarden students who do not even know their last name, or their mom's name or their basic numbers and ABC's.
                    Just asking, but how do you think we can fix this problem? By forcing parents to teach their students the skills they need to succeed? That won't work. So, the teachers and schools have to take time to teach these skills and if that means more government programs to help kids be successful than so be it. If our students graduate with the ability to problems solve and have all the skills they need to succeed it means our country as a whole will be more successful. Everyone benefits from a graduate with a good education so that is where the money needs to go rather than to subsidize banks and oil companies or tax breaks for the rich.
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              • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 11:48 am ET)
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                Understanding the utility of willful ignorance is key to unlocking the mystery of the wingnut mind.

                It's like allowing unchecked, unscreened baggage onto a plane. Sooner or later a bomb will get on board. Think of FOX NEWS and Glenn Beck as the bomb factories and Byron Williams as the plane.
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          • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (July 27, 2010 7:19 pm ET)
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            another poster (bintx) pointed me in the direction of "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer. An in-depth and very convincing explanation for the troubling question regarding smart people falling for the blather of right wing leaders and mouthpieces.
            http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf
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        • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 9:05 am ET)
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          All the zombies show their faces @SarahPalin (aka Queen Sarah the Immiscible)Facebook page: Journey into the Media’s Heart of Darkness

          The comments, well, let's just say the hellhounds were in full throat. A sampling:

          If there were a truly fair and balanced media this country would be a much better place where common sence ideas could be heard by all. Keep up the fight for everyone of us who think like you.

          Sarah, TO THIS DAY, there are "journalists" who I used to respect, but can no longer bear to watch or read after the despicable way they treated you and your family.

          hang in there Sara, God blessed you with a great child, Trig. Out of darkness is Liberal thinking, they always attack beauty, goodness, truth, and the sweetness of children. Keeping you and your family in our prayers.

          The more these "so called journalists" pull this stuff, the more determined I am to support you. They do not understand the oath they took to report fairly & tell the unbiased truth. And they think we the people are too dumb to know the difference. Beware, the truth will out.

          i beleive that all this is is a fight between good and evil on this earth...people who are prejucided against a small baby because of its physical disabilities is evidence of what I believe and that its true.


          And the coup de grace, if you will:

          Dear Sarah,
          I just read a copy of your post at a blog on my blogroll and had to come over here immediately to comment. How appalling these creepy liberal leftists who call themselves "journalists" are! But it certainly fits with their evil, culture of death ideology. They would rather abort a child who isn't "perfect." And most of them probably know someone who did. But seeing your son is a threat to them because it exposes their dark hearts and the fact that they ignore God's commandment "thou shalt not murder." Abortion is murder. Period. They can try and spin it all they want but that is what it is. You are correct when you titled this post, "journey into the media's heart of darkness" because that is where they live - in complete and utter darkness!

          When pResident Obama made fun of the Special Olympics participants, I could not believe it! But now, after all of the horror that he and his Marxist cohorts have inflicted upon our nation, I believe that he is capable of doing, and saying, anything to advance that agenda. When Obama said that he didn't want his daughter to be "punished with a baby" if she had an unplanned pregnancy, his cold heart surfaced once again. And the media is of the same mindset as Obama. They both have been found out and it has been revealed exactly what they are - evil perpetrators of hate.

          Thanks to wonderful patriots like you, they are being exposed for who they truly are - cowards and liars.

          Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I just had to vent all of this.

          I admire you for all of your patience while being bombarded with such hatred and vile rumors, comments, ineuendo, and outright lies! You have more integrity in your pinkie finger than the whole lot of Obamaland people and lying journalists. Keep up the great work! You get under their skin, but you always do it with such tact, integrity, and dignity - all of which are missing in the lives of the naysayers against you. God bless you and your family! We appreciate you immensely! Love - just another Mama Grizzlie & fan


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          • Author by soze169880 (July 27, 2010 10:39 am ET)
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            So do ALL of Palin's fans think Trig is her only child, or what?
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          • Author by soze169880 (July 27, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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            Shorter Sarah Palin: The 20th anniversary of the ADA is all about ME.
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            • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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              There is nothing in this World or above which isn't about Queen Sarah the Immiscible!
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        • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 9:23 am ET)
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          Oh, and perhaps the best Palintologist response to a dog whistle yet:

          Sarah it is a real shame that we have a Media in America that has No shame or morals. This lame stream media would be the first to throw the first stone at Jesus. They are in Satans bag and are happy to be there. Take heart and kiss Trig for us caring Americans.
          Judgement Day evens all evil.


          Happens I believe on Judgment Day, or call it Day of Reckoning, and recordings made in Book of Life. I think perhaps the Recording Angel, or St Peter at the Pearly Gates, actually does adore Queen Sarah for she's making the job so much easier.
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          • Author by soze169880 (July 27, 2010 10:40 am ET)
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            kiss Trig for us caring Americans.

            That poor kid. If he ever realizes they only value him as a prop and asks his mom to stop, it's not like anyone's going to listen.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 27, 2010 9:37 pm ET)
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            Thanks for the excerpts, NL. These people are nuts. If Jesus returned, he'd be a liberal, and it would be they who would stone/hang him on the National Mall in D.C. for preaching about social justice. A group of people who hate everyone, except those who think the way they do, wouldn't hesitate in executing those they hate. As the streets ran with blood, they'd be shouting, "Praise Jesus!"

            I pray every night that God protects the rest of us from these nuts and their "leaders."
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    • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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      Theodore Roosevelt saw this first hand on October 14, 1912; even gave a speech about it, immediately after being shot: Takes more than that to kill a Bullmoose.

      That incident was the inspiration for a bit of stagecraft put up by the Reagan Administration on 3/30/1981.
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 8:42 am ET)
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        History quiz for you young'uns:

        When Insane Anglo Warlord secured election in 1980, his percentage of the popular vote was:

        A) Less than 51%

        B) Greater than 51%

        Hint: it wasn't 51%
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 27, 2010 8:51 am ET)
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        The vice president was missing in action,while an oil man's shot the president.That oilman's son did not go to prison.got weekend passes to go home,and is now living at home.
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    • Author by New Frontier (July 27, 2010 9:15 am ET)
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      Does Glenn Beck want history to repeat itself?

      [http://thenewliberator.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jfk_wanted_for_treason.jpg]


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      • Author by bintx (July 27, 2010 9:21 am ET)
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        If he can make money off of it . . . probably.
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 9:37 am ET)
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        Odd thing about that but worth noting, as a warning: the right-wing and the oil men inveighed against JFK, yet a confirmed and radical leftist shot him.
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        • Author by mary59 (July 27, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
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          I believe that Oswald was a pasty for the Mafia. And calling him a "leftist" I guess is technically correct but shows the limitations of this kind of labeling.
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      • Author by Nasty Liberal (July 27, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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        Item 2 in the indictment above, this is how it STARTs:

        Tea Party activists come out against START

        Tea Party Caucus members endorse Israeli attack on Iran:

        Last week, a Tea Party-affiliated grassroots organization launched a nationwide campaign to build popular opposition to the administration's nuclear reductions treaty with Russia, called New START. The group is led by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's wife Ginny and it dovetails with similar efforts by former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. Foreign Policy magazine's The Cable
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    • Author by cst (July 27, 2010 10:05 am ET)
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      The reason Beck's going to get nailed on this is because his references are so distinctly his alone. Nobody BUT him rants about Tides (Unlike, say, "Tiller the Baby-Killer", which couldn't be pinned SPECIFICALLY to O'Reilly).
      When a crazed gunman starts mouthing off about Woodrow Wilson, we'll all be able to figure out where he got his inspiration REAL easy...
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      • Author by wookie (July 27, 2010 10:24 am ET)
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        It really is like a form of fascism. Tiller for example provided a legal service that aimed at women with major health problems during pregnancy. But it is not usually available due to the fear factor. ACORN, Tides and NAACP are centered around voting and other representation and aid for minorities and poor people. These right wing campaigns are designed to drive them out of business or scare them into submission. The corporate backed rallies against healthcare reform or cap and trade where people show their "I came unarmed this time" signs are the same.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 27, 2010 10:08 am ET)
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      Conservatives would love to divorce themselves from these nutjobs, but they cannot escape the fact that their lies and fearmongering rhetoric insipre them, and that they all have Hannity's and O'Rielly's and Beck's books on their shelves, and they all listen to Savage and Limbaugh and they all watch Fox. They're RW Zombies through-and-through. They're exactly what we've been warning against, but hey: As long as they only target "liberal" stuff, it's all good, isn't it?

      And Beck has gone out of his way and over the top in his embodiment of all this Right Wing Psychopathy. I have no doubt that there will soon be violence, and I hardly think I'm remiss in hoping that the first casualty is Beck himself, if only becuase that alone would mitigate further bloodshed. He's a reckless, irresponsible, traitorous, cowardly little scumbag who's been playing with fire for rather a long time now. I hope HE the one who gets burned, because otherwise a lot of other people will.

      ----------------------------------------
      The Right has elevataed being an beligerant jackass into an artform, and have turned helping the poor and being charitable into some kind of immorral act. They're so disgusting.
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      • Author by GreenLantern (July 27, 2010 6:54 pm ET)
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        I think the right-wing (now known as the hate-wing) thought that tea-baggers would help their party like the religious right did for reagan and the repuglicans back in the 80's. But the really crazy zealots that actually run the "new tea-party" and have gotten a lot of old, retired, racist thrill seekers to go along with their insane rantings. Since the republicans have been shown that their most extreme policies are really bad for a modern day country and economy, they are looking for votes but think they can only find them on the fringe instead of in the middle. That leads to too many people getting high on idiots like beck's rantings. There are too many people out there without filters and there will be violence and I think sooner than later. It is terror at its finest I think!
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    • Author by jgibson349687 (July 27, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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      This is why Lonesome Rhodes Beck should be institutionalized, and not behind a radio booth.
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    • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 11:32 am ET)
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      Why isn't Glenn Beck and FOX NEWS defending Byron Williams' efforts to fight back against these forces, like the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, that are out to destroy America?

      Glenn has blown the trumpet, and now his soldiers are leaving the trenches. This is when a true leader, like Glenn Beck, should rally behind his followers, not leave them spinning in the wind.
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    • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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      The hatred and violence driving Byron Williams is a byproduct of FOX NEWS and Glenn Beck.

      His intended actions would have been a logical outcome of a steady diet of the dire proclamations and predictions by Beck within the context of Bible-based End Times expectations.

      If any of us here were to actually believe Glenn about the Tides Foundation and the ACLU being part of cabal to destroy America, why WOULDN'T we take up arms against such a cabal?

      Glenn should be proud of his soldier and pay him tribute.
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      • Author by dave (July 27, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
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        Its not Beck. Its this administration. Stop bailing out private business, stop pushing nationalized healthcare, stop funding unemployment forever, stop spending money we do not have, and stop this silly lawsuit against AZ, and I think Beck will lay off.
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        • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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          You're right. If only Obama were more like Glenn Beck, Byron Williams wouldn't be driven to murder people at the Tides Foundation.

          It's a nice, clean simple way of understanding politics in America really. The political division and hatred in this country would disappear overnight if only lefties were to do things Glenn Beck's way.

          Thank you for that.
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          • Author by The New Pilgrims (July 27, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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            Shorter Dave: If the administration would just stop doing things that we don't like, then we'll stop encouraging people to go on murdering rampages.
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            • Author by The New Pilgrims (July 27, 2010 1:13 pm ET)
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              God Bless the Drive By Thumbs Down Guys!
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            • Author by eb (July 27, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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              Stop bailing out private business, stop pushing nationalized healthcare, stop funding unemployment forever, stop spending money we do not have, and stop this silly lawsuit against AZ, and I think Beck will lay off.

              So Dave, is this how it works? When someone you don't like gets elected and they have policies you don't agree with, any attack, lie, smear, distortion is fair game? Its ok to intimidate people to get them to agree with you?

              Conservatives should be outraged that this clown represents them. Are they too intellectually weak to have an adult discussion over policy?

              So Dave, am I to assume that until Obama becomes a conservative republican, Beck is justified in saying or doing whatever he wants?

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              • Author by soze169880 (July 27, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
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                There's not a lot separating Obama from a conservative Republican NOW and they still won't be happy until he's dead.
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        • Author by cst (July 27, 2010 12:59 pm ET)
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          " I think Beck will lay off. "
          Well, of COURSE he will.
          And Iran will stop funding terrorists if Israel just "goes away".
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          • Author by rms (July 27, 2010 5:17 pm ET)
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            Agreed. Dave's "and I think Beck will lay off" comment is breathtakingly naive.
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            • Author by cst (July 27, 2010 6:07 pm ET)
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              It's not naive; it's B.S. He doesn't believe a word of it; he's just trying to justify the inevitable violence.
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        • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (July 27, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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          And in today's Naked Appeal to Force Fallacy category, we have daaaaave telling us that if Obama doesn't stop pursuing the policies for which he won election, he will have people calling for his assassination. Pay not attention to that Secret Service man behind the curtain, Dorothy...
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        • Author by soze169880 (July 27, 2010 3:28 pm ET)
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          and I think Beck will lay off.

          Beck won't lay off until Obama is out of office and/or assassinated. And he's instantly going to stop objecting to "Big Government" and go back to insisting that criticizing the president is treason the second we have another Republican president.
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        • Author by PurpleState (July 27, 2010 5:30 pm ET)
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          "Think" is an operative word here.

          What's going to stop Beck if we get a president he hasn't endorsed? Even if the administration turns to a Republican one, he will still target left-wing-leaning organizations.

          The Tides Foundation is not the President of the United States or a part of his administration. It is an organization that represents everything Beck does not agree with.

          Government turnover will not appease him, especially if it makes Beck bucks.
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        • Author by GreenLantern (July 27, 2010 7:18 pm ET)
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          Its not Beck. Its this administration. Stop bailing out private business,
          Uh, bush did that.....
          stop pushing nationalized healthcare,
          he didn't get it so no worries there.........
          stop funding unemployment forever,
          Uh, people pay into that, it is not actually unfunded..........
          stop spending money we do not have,
          Uh, only spend our grandchildren's future paychecks to fund tax breaks for the richest people and fund wars with no end, especially based on complete and utter lies like republicans like to do.
          and stop this silly lawsuit against AZ,
          Uh, I think that is the right thing to do, standardize the nations immigration laws, don't divide them....
          and I think Beck will lay off.
          He will never lay off, don't you get it, he is GREEDY!!!!!!
          (I wish i did not share a first name with you!)
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 27, 2010 10:02 pm ET)
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            Don't worry. We definitely know the difference between the two Daves. You're the sane, cool, logical thinking one.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 27, 2010 9:49 pm ET)
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          What planet do you live on?

          Under the Constitution, it is only Congress that has the power to craft and approve legislation, so whatever President Obama signed into law had to pass both Houses of Congress first.

          Everything on your list passed through Congress FIRST, except the lawsuit.


          Reading the Constitution would explain the rationale for the lawsuit challenging SB-1070.

          The way you talk one would think that the President wrote the legislation, approved it, and signed it into law.

          Take a refresher course in civics because you're woefully ignorant about how the U.S. government operates.

          I don't give a rat's azzz whether Glenda backs off or not.

          He may tell you what to do, but I will never, ever listen to the c*@p he spews. He's in the business of making money by conning the gullible, and I'll have NO part of that.

          I want him to continue talking and you to continue following him so that all of America can get a close look at exactly how unhinged you all are.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (July 27, 2010 9:59 pm ET)
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          And I'll just bet that you were happier than a pig rolling in $*!t while GWB "borrowed" all of that money from China to fund 2 wars and give tax cuts that benefited the top 1-2% of the country.

          If you're such a deficit hawk, why weren't you screaming along with us liberals while GWB was adding trillions to the deficit?

          I think it's mighty revealing that you only became concerned when a democrat became president.

          This says to me that you're no true patriot.

          You could care less about what happens to this country as long as the president has that (R) beside his name.

          You're a seditious, partisan, corporate-supporting thug.
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          • Author by dave (July 29, 2010 8:52 pm ET)
               
            I hope you are talking to me, hippie.

            You would be so wrong. If you find any of the crap you accuse me of, post it. Show me I was pro war.

            I'll wait.

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        • Author by srichardson (July 28, 2010 12:39 am ET)
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          Yeah, I knew it wouldn't be long before someone like you, dave, someone without any kind of humanity or morals, would come to defend Beck and blame it on Obama. You, and the people like you, make me sick. If you are too blinded to see the negative effect that Beck and those like him are having on this country then you are just an ignorant person. Congress can't even do their job because the republicans are a bunch of wimps and filibuster EVERYTHING instead of allowing honest debates to take place. The right wing is full of a bunch of pansies who bawl like little babies when they don't get their way. We had an election, those who got elected got elected fairly and yet you people can't just accept it and allow the government to work the way it should. You should be ashamed of yourself, really. Pathetic. And go ahead and come back and call me any name in the book. I'm tired of being quiet and allowing people like you to ruin this country.
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          • Author by dave (July 29, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
               
            I don't call people names. I simply offer opinion.

            BO is doing a crappy job, he has no clue what he got himself into. C'mon. Just admit it and move on.

            And I do not defend Beck. I listen to him as much as I do Ed Schultz
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        • Author by Johaely (July 28, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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          So then govern how some guys who didn't vote for you wanted, not how you the people who voted for you did?
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      • Author by eb (July 27, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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        Glenn should be proud of his soldier and pay him tribute.

        Yea its funny hearing Beck squirm yesterday about how violence in the movement would destroy the republic. It seems beck realizes that this violence makes his movement look bad, but at the same time his titanic ego that thinks that the life of our republic hangs on the balance of his movement.

        But seriously, why wouldn't someone who listens to Beck and believes it not grab a gun? Beck is telling his audience that our country and way of life our in grave peril. Its not that we haven't chosen to act violently in the past when our interests are at stake.
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        • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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          I'm still trying to sort out how it is that Glenn expects us to revere the Founder's as role models, but at the same time foreswear violent revolution.

          If the Republic is truly in peril, wouldn't it be the duty of the Byron Williams' to gun up and take out those who Glenn identifies as enemies of the Constitution?

          Glenn, you need to put up Byron's portrait on your studio wall like you have the Founders. Byron Williams is a FOX NEWS patriot!
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          • Author by eb (July 27, 2010 1:41 pm ET)
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            I'm still trying to sort out how it is that Glenn expects us to revere the Founder's as role models, but at the same time foreswear violent revolution.

            My guess is that the powerful people behind the powerful media that support Beck would not like that very much. Having an attack dog like Beck, (hannity, limbaugh, savage....) keeping the conservative based riled up seems to preserve the parts of the status quo that are important to these important people.

            Having a do nothing divided government seems to be the goal. A government that people have little faith in to solve problems means that there is little government or populist interference with powerful economic interests. Beck is a very useful tool. Violent revolution or civil discord is bad for business.
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    • Author by paul8616 (July 27, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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      If I was as evil as Rupert Murdoch, I'd foment insurrection within the US, too. I'd make sure that radical hate-mongers like Beck had a megaphone to spread their bile.

      Why does a foreigner like Murdoch get to call the shots on who the American Taliban will put in the sights of its high-powered rifle?
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    • Author by armendale (July 27, 2010 3:39 pm ET)
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      Beck is gathering his armies.

      Beck and Byron Williams are fighting on the same side and fighting the same enemy.

      Beck has called upon his followers to be like the Founders and repel the enemies of the Republic.

      Why would Beck not send flowers and a thank you note to his fellow "Progressive Hunter" Williams for what Byron tried to do? Fight one of the enemies of Freedom Glenn was alone in identifying.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (July 27, 2010 4:47 pm ET)
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        Imagine what they would be saying if President Obama truly was an actual liberal progressive and not a go-along, get along centrist blue dog democrat!

        You know, they would probably be saying the same thing. I don't think actual politics and policy make any difference to them as long as the party they advocate gains or retains power.
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    • Author by David2012 (July 27, 2010 5:09 pm ET)
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      It's important to say something, and that is that the Beck rhetoric, and the rest of the right-wing rhetoric isn't conservative at all. There's nothing at all conservative -- at least not in the Burke, Buckley, or even Reagan sense -- about it at all.

      It is the most radical speech to mass audiences that we have heard in this country for at least forty years. Conservatives want to conserve institutions and values and honor personal responsibility.

      I'm not a conservative, but there are plenty of conservatives whose friendship I value, and they are appalled by the antics of the men and women who make a career out of mindless insult for the sake of insult and incitation in the pursuit of profit.

      The conservative movement needs badly to return to its first principles, and to call these people what they are -- traitorous, radical rascals who will do or say anything to attract attention to themselve and to make a buck.
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    • Author by srichardson (July 28, 2010 12:11 am ET)
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      I've known all along that crazy things would start happening when crazy people listen to crazy talk show type newscasts and talk radio. It's time that those who voted the democrats into office to stand up and yell louder than the right wing idiots who are actually destroying this country's ability to have any kind of adult debate. They are the ones who do not understand that this administration and congress is the result of democracy. For once in the last decade there was no doubt who won the presidency yet the "other side" refuses to admit that they lost fair and square. They are the ones who would love to take freedoms away from ANYONE who doesn't agree with their agenda. They are ones who are causing our political system to come to a stand still by acting like infants and not allowing discussion on any issue, much less a chance to vote on those issues with their infantile filibusters. It's like they have no control over their ability to be on the losing side and have become zombies with no ability to control themselves, they just have to make Obama look bad to survive.
      We must stand up and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK! You know, the one where people had fair and honest debates, where people didn't make crap up just to make others look evil and bad, the country where the rich were happy to have 3 or 4 cars or houses and not 10 or 20, the country where the man on top wanted his employees to be well paid and happy, the country where people didn't have to work at a job they hated just to have the insurance so his wife with medical issues could get her medications and see her doctor as needed. I know that the saying what comes around goes around eventually does seem to come true, but I'm getting tired of waiting on people like Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, CHENEY, and you get the drift, to be exposed for the people they really are. I'm tired of waiting and ready to fight.
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      • Author by Timmee (July 28, 2010 1:43 am ET)
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        When Cheney's new heart pump is installed, he literally won't have a pulse. He just needs a respirator and a black helment now.
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