Fox News exec says it stood "1000%" behind Beck's ugly "death camps" smear
August 03, 2010 9:54 pm ET by Todd Gregory
Earlier today, Media Matters noted Michael Calderone's report that Fox News executives had told Simon Greer of Jewish Funds for Justice that Glenn Beck "crossed the line" when Beck accused of Greer of advocating a philosophy that "leads to death camps." Calderone reported that Greer met with Fox News CEO Roger Ailes and senior vice president Joel Cheatwood on July 26 and that during the meeting, the two executives "agreed that Beck crossed the line in comparing Greer's worldview to that of the Nazis and promised to speak with Beck about the matter." But this evening, Cheatwood disputed that account, telling TVNewser, "Never did we talk about Glenn 'crossing the line.' " TVNewser further reported:
Cheatwood says that during the meeting, he and Ailes explained Beck's perspective that the holocaust is one of the worst events in history and should be handled with a tremendous amount of sympathy. They reinforced that everyone in the media needs to be sensitive around this topic.
Cheatwood said he felt it was an "honest, open, dignified meeting," and that Greer's account as it appeared in the Yahoo! article "didn't bear any resemblance to the truth." "The story basically -- as I read it -- indicated that Roger Ailes and myself had agreed with Greer," he told us.
"We absolutely stood behind Glenn Beck 1000%," he said.
Just so everyone's clear about what Fox News is standing behind, it's worth noting what Beck originally said about Greer on his May 28 radio show.
Beck began by reading from a Washington Post piece that Greer had written about Beck and his attacks on social justice: "Here's what we do for each other as Americans: We grow food, we create jobs, we build homes, pave roads, teach our children, care for our grandparents, secure our neighborhoods. Government makes our country function. To put God first is to put humankind first. To put humankind first is to put the common good first."
After quoting that statement about Americans' shared responsibilities to each other, Beck immediately pounced: "This leads to death camps. A Jew, of all people, should know that. This is exactly the kind of talk that led to the death camps in Germany. Put humankind and the common good first."
Greer himself best explained why those comments are so repulsive when he responded to Beck in a statement the same day:
Glenn Beck has a history recklessly invoking Nazi Germany and the Holocaust in order to advance his political agenda. But never before has Beck accused Jews - including survivors of the Holocaust and their children and grandchildren - of paving the way for fascism. Through his comments, Beck has demonstrated that he has no idea what leads to fascism. Jews and others, who were victims of the Holocaust, do not have the luxury of his ignorance.
It's especially dangerous for Fox News to defend these sorts of outrageous comments by Beck. As Media Matters documented, Fox News figures have consistently stuck up for Beck's infamous statement that President Obama is a "racist" who has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture" -- both executives like Ailes and Rupert Murdoch and on-air personalities like Sean Hannity.
Fox's defense of this rhetoric has the effect of mainstreaming it, of proving that there are no real consequences for media figures who push the discourse beyond acceptable boundaries. Despite the fact that Beck's accusation that Obama is a racist has led to at least 100 advertisers dropping their ads from his Fox News show, right-wing media figures now routinely call Obama and others in his administration "racist.'
You can be sure that Beck imitators in the media will take note of the fact that Fox is standing "1000%" behind a statement that concern for the common good leads to death camps.

















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Logic and common sense would tend to side with Greer on this.
I hear a good shot of penicillan will clear up what you've...*ahem...."got".
In my personal interactions I ignore people like that. I wish we had the luxury of doing the same with Beck.
Eventually, he WILL go so far Fox will have no choice but to fire him, and they both know it... although, of course, neither can publically admit that.
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Dr. King supports Dr. Beck...that must make you leftists absolutly nutz! Because after all, Rev. King belongs to the left exclusivly and not to all of humanity, and certinly not to a fat, blond, conservitive of German desent...right?
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Hmm...early Newt? Sargent Shultz? Glen Beck?
I think it's Glen. He is truly nutz! And thank you for your inciteful post.
Is he getting rocks thrown through his window? Did the 9/12 demonstrators get firehosed? Is he finding burning crosses in his yard? Did he get thrown in jail?
Would you wingnuts please try to keep your fantasies of bravely standing tall in face of persecution to yourselves? It's getting rather unseemly.
I also think for his viewers it is an effective way to sugar coat and legitimize his rhetoric. Unfortunately it seems to work.
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I totally agree.
Also it's rich that an apologist for a Fox News personality would ham-fistedly co-opt "Truth to Power." Just sayin'.
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I see it worked on you.
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Sad comment on the general mental state of society, though, that they can get away with what they do, and even be applauded for it by some.
And the commentators, unless they do something illegal on-air, will never be fired as long as ratings and thoughtless Americans follow.
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...oh...sorry, I meant" WELL THAT MUST MAKE IT AN ACCURATE PORTRAYAL THEN...RIGHT?
I didn't want to fail to live up to your expectations.
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What is the criteria they use and is there a list somewhere?
I see now that until my new poster status is over and my posts are readable without a (often) multi-day delay between submission and actual posting, there is little if any point to spending my effort writing posts to threads that will most likely be dead by the time they are posted, and since I will be stuck in new poster status limbo until such time as I have submitted an unspecified number of posts (is it the same number for conservative posters as for liberal I wonder?) I am going to mostly stop posting anything with any depth for so long as my new poster status continues, and focus on quantity. An exception to this will be made for okiepoli, who made what I believe was an effort to open an actual dialog with me, and for which has gained a measure of my respect, and who I will therefore go out of my way to respond to. Apologies to any who reply to any of my posts and don't receive an answer, and thanks in advance for your understanding. (I still have posts from last Friday that I haven't seen posted yet.)
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Maybe Beck's followers will learn soemthing while "monitoring" left wing sites. Just joking, of course they won't.
Oh and I got great entertainment from his complaint that the mods are cleverly manipulating the Terms of Use to silence conservatives, when a mod had to approve his post for it to even show up. Indeed, the mods could easily just ban all the right-wingers for no reason if they wanted to silence dissent. These complaints are even more hilarious when they're made conservatives who've been posting here for years.
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Like the rest of the "conservative" commedians, he isn't very good.
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As for how long it takes to get out of probation it felt like forever for me too, and I haven't got a right-wing bone in my body.
And no, the TOU does not include the list of words set to trigger the net nanny which seems to be completely random.
Yes, often. He is like a train wreck and what is presented here is consistent with what I see.
do research or think for yourselves or do you just listen to the bits and pieces that others who are already prejudiced (like yourselves) have to say about the little bits and pieces of information that they've taken out of context?
Yes its a big complicated world out there unless your Glenn Beck and then everything is divided up into nice neat piles of evil/dangerous vs good and virtuous. Beck is the one that needs to stop being full of himself and do some research. He obviously does not understand liberal or progressive ideas or policy. When he describes such things, his ignorance of them is embarrassingly loud and clear. He is lucky his audience would rather hear straw man stereotypes instead of reality.
No one seems to recognize or care about the issues that are of consequence,
Beck is obsessed with Woodrow Wilson and G. Wright. Beck thinks that our nation is at the breaking point because God fearing pro corporate conservatives are not getting their way 100 percent of the time. Beck has to scrape deep in the muck to come up with more evil to scare his vulnerable listeners.
and if they DO take the time to find out, they can't believe it and non-chalantly shrug it off with rude or crude comments and even reckless abandon, usually being very careful to shroud it with rambling rhetoric..........
Actually that was kind of funny, the part about rambling rhetoric.... It is easy to shrug off Beck because when you are not a conservative like he is, its really next to impossible to see yourself as extremely evil, extremely dangerous and extremely powerful. He is even going after churches that value social justice. How dare they! They must be stopped at once or our nation is doomed...
Beck thinks we are under attack from with in. His presentation of this interpretation and the evidence he gives could easily be seen as some sort of parody.
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Well, I guess that just shows US, now doesn't it. (?)
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Which is particularly humorous given this Beck Quote:
Please stop teaching my children that everyone gets a trophy just for participating. What is this, the Nobel Prize? Not everybody gets a trophy.
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What EXACTLY has Dr.Beck been falsely accused of here? Be specific! I'd really like to hear about how Beck:
1. is correct that the 100 + year old liberal/progressive legacy in this country is one that is similar to Stalin and Hitler and poses a serious threat to the republic.
2. Has real and credible evidence that the progressive movement is planning to destroy the republic, is Marxist, hates America and/or wants to take away our rights.
Beck every day makes serious accusations about enemies within our country without evidence or proof. Please explain how we are wrong and that Beck provides us a convincing case of a vast conspiracy of enemies within.
This website criticizes his shows (oh the horror!) based on evidence from a variety of legitimate sources. Please explain why this is somehow unfair or mocking Dr. Beck. Explain why the poor guy deserves our sympathy or has earned our respect.
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Nice dodge, though, Vomit All Over Power.
an example would be nice. enlighten us.
Then I heard one of his callers call in, a middle-school teacher who admitted to needing a dictionary to read the books he recommended and then commented that her children, thanks to Beck will now learn "honor" in the classroom and that she set up a small shrine to him. Now, of course she didn't use the word shrine, she just said she set up his picture and had her Beanie Babies kneeling in prayer to him in front of it, which he didn't ask her to not do (false idols anyone) but thought it was grand and hilarious.
So yes, he is dangerous because people in positions to affect children listen to this self-described Rodeo Clown who admits that only a fool would believe him, taking his word as gospel and setting up shrines to him on their desks with children's collectibles as supplicants to his glory, swallowing his hypocritical comments, unfounded and spurious claims, and wild half-researched I(if he's lucky) points of information.
I assume she is a teacher at Home School U. ????
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You picked the wrong site to peddle your lies.
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You're just another ditto-bot bleating many-times-debunked talking points.
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But keep on trying, you may post something credible some day.
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They keep trying to compare it to a liberal ideology.
talk about truth in advertising!
mccarthy? Bwahahahahahaha!
talk about truth in advertising!
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It just doesn't make sense for Greer to lie about the meeting, even from a purely self-interested vantage point. Only Ailes and Cheatwood have an interest that is served by speaking from both sides of their mouths. We also have the organization known as Fox news and it's long and sordid track record of lying as a matter of agenda to make me think Greer is very likely the one telling the truth about this meeting.
More likely, they are just provided cover to enable the media beast to continue his rampage.
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We need more like Shirley, who will stand up to Faux and the pieholes and tell the truth about them. Until people stand up to the bully, the bully runs the playground.
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Learn to spell and use the language.
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<shaking fist> Damn you, REDBULL!
How can ANY human being with even a modicum of conscience agree with this? How can someone say this and still call himself a man of faith or compare himself to Martin Luther King? What kind of insanity makes it okay to turn your back on everyone but yourself and your own selfish interests?
WTF is happening to "Christians" in this country?
Think about it, we recently had a huge financial scare where the remedy was to give a huge welfare check to our most powerful banks. Obviously something is broken in the system and accountability has been lacking.
Beck and the other conservative pundit celebrities are the attack dogs that ensure that any populist reaction to recent developments are focused on the federal government and progressives. Beck is doing the heavy lifting to minimize any damage to these elites who stand to loose if our institutions reorganize in a manner that conflicts with their interests.
It is pretty blatant. Even churches are out of line for considering social justice and 100 year old social justice policy is presented as threatening. Also consider the outrage that a tax cut would be rescinded for people making over 250,000 dollars in order to pay our debt. Budget cuts for education, the poor, etc are encouraged.
Regarding '...their hatred of just about anybody who wasn't of Teutonic/Nordic...', How do you account for their alliance with Japan alone, not to mention Italy and the Arabic Muslims?
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You seem to be operating under the delusion that the NSDAP's ideas of Germany for Germans and the Master Race were all inclusive of jews, trade unionists, communists, homosexuals, gypsies, etc.
Here are a few of the points from their 1920 25 point manifesto...
4. Only Germans may be citizens of the Germany. Only those of the German races may be members of the nation, their religion does not matter. No Jew may be a citizen
8. No-one who is not of a German-race should be allowed to live in Germany. We want anyone who is not of a German-race who started living in Germany after 2 August 1914 to leave the country.
23. We want the law to stop politicians from being anti-German, and newspapers from writing about them. To make a German national press we demand:
that all editors of, and writers in the German language newspapers are members of the nation (of a German race);
Foreign newspapers need permission from the government. They must not be printed in the German language;
Non-Germans cannot own or control German newspapers.
any non German who does own or control a newspaper will be made to leave Germany, and the newspaper closed down,
Newspapers which criticise the country or the government are not allowed.
Art, books and which support foreign ideas, should be banned.
24. We want to allow all religions in the State, unless they offend the moral feelings of the German race. The NSDAP is Christian, but does not belong to any denomination. The NSDAP will fight the Jewish self-interest spirit, and believes that our nation will be strongest only if everyone puts the common interest before self-interest.
Maybe MMFA could get an interview with Greer himself so that he can clear his good name.
1. Tables are made of wood. It means that trees are being cut down. therefore, there are less acorns. And we need less ACORNs.
2. Tables are made of wood. Wood was used to make the cross. Therefore, tables are part of the evil liberal socialistic society and lead to "death camps."
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i agree with your notion that one's faith should not be considered fair game ~in disputatio~ . Vero,I would seriously question whether he has any valid Doctorate of any kind (presumption being you were serious about that.. LOL!)
...(I believe**), on the face of things, his mental condition is of valid argument or scrutiny. Not to mention that his utterances are inane.
Please excuse my bad grammar.
(**I was going to use the Latin form for "I believe"...er.. um, but that would not read so well considering it's current colloquial usage, to bad though would have had a nice ring to it lolol
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sure wish I had studied Latin
Ego P*t*
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Beck should have been gone long ago. On a Certified Wacko Scale (that I just made up)
Beck 98 (not 100, since flies like him)
Breitbart 95
Limbaugh 93
Saveage 90
Hannity 85
Coulter 75
O'Reilly 60
not to mention: I am sure he believes that Book-Lernin' can lead to ....
Another example of how Beck's attacks on progressives show that he does't know anything about them. It still does stop him from smearing and distorting.
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This non-conservative book reviews how history is simplified in schools into good guys and bad guys and is critical of it because it is not accurate and promotes a political agenda. It is critical of the kind of analysis Beck does. Also the book makes a clear distinction between the racism in the progressive era and the idea that government should serve the people and reign in on the excesses of capitalism.
The book completely refutes Beck's slant on things while also critiquing the racism that was rampant among both conservatives and liberals during that time. It does not hold Woodrow Wilson up as a hero at all. It does, however, show that people 100 years ago knew that capitalism needed rules and checks and balances. Why don't you read it and compare what progressives actually say and not the straw men beck is so lazy to dish out.
Beck looks like a fool just about every time he puts on those glasses. He needs a coloring book and a crayon... not a chalkboard.
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This website also provides sources that clearly contradict what Beck is saying. Look at them and compare with Beck you can clearly see the difference. Beck gets it wrong because he doesn't want to look far enough to get it right.
Beck gets it wrong for a reason. He can source all he wants but his conclusions are easily shot down because promoting his political agenda is his priority
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You aren't a fan of a certain Louisiana Governor, are you? Because you are reaching that level of dumb.
The original German Nazi, Anton Drexler, was anti-Jewish and anti-communist, among the many other things he was against.
The National Socialist Workers Party chose its name to make it appear appear as though it was interested in socialism and workers, when in fact it was interested in a merging of state and corporate interests -- fascism.
When the Nazis came to power, you think they weren't globalists? Then why the hell were they fighting a war to take over the world?
Further, you do understand that socialism is always very selective about who benefits in the common good, and that the first requisite to receiving their benevolence is agreeing with them...right?
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First, the Nazis weren't "socialists" -- they were "national socialists." Not. The. Same. Thing.
Second, here's how these economic systems break down theoretically:
Communism is ownership by all the people in the group for the benefit of the people in the group.
Socialism is ownership by the state for the benefit of all the people in the state.
Fascism is ownership by the state and its corporate allies for the benefit of the state, the people who run it, and their corporate allies.
Those who called themselves communists, like the Soviet Union and China, were not really communists. If anything, they were closer to fascists, since the state controlled everything for the benefit of the state and the small group of people who ran it.
The National Socialists or Nazis (not socialists, remember) were also fascists -- the state and corporate allies owning everything for the benefit of the state, the people who ran it and their corporate allies.
If you think that the National Socialism of the Nazi Party has any resemblance to modern European Socialism, you desperately need to get yourself back into school. In the meantime, stop advertising your ignorance here, ok?