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Another ridiculous attack: Unimaginable violence against women is almost exclusively a Muslim problem

August 09, 2010 12:10 pm ET by Adam Shah

A post on Andrew Breitbart's BigPeace.com claims that "previously unimagined assaults on women and girls are taking place almost exclusively from within Islamic communities." Not to minimize violence against women in these communities, but to even suggest that horrific violence against women occurs "almost exclusively" in "Islamic communities," is unbelievably ignorant. The problem of violence against women is widespread in our society and is certainly not exclusive to any community.

On BigPeace.com, Diane West writes of the brutal attack on an 18-year-old Afghani woman named Aisha. She then adds that it's not just women in Afghanistan, this is occurring to Muslim women in the West too:

Similar scenarios play out beyond the wilds of the Taliban zone wherever Sharia culture flowers, an expanding zone that now includes urban centers of the Western world -- from Berlin to London to Atlanta to Calgary -- where previously unimagined assaults on women and girls are taking place almost exclusively from within Islamic communities. This gruesome fact renders Time's cover line -- "What Happens if We Leave Afghanistan" -- absurdly provincial in scope. That is, it's not only in Afghanistan where Islamic men have dominion over Islamic women. It is wherever Islamic law, de facto or de jure, empowers them.

Again, I do not mean to minimize the horror of violence against women by Muslims. But violence against women and girls is by no means an Islam-specific phenomenon.

Just look at the statistics compiled by the American Bar Association on domestic violence, For instance, "[t]he U.S. Department of Justice reported that 37% of all women who sought care in hospital emergency rooms for violence-related injuries were injured by a current or former spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend." Also, according to the ABA-compiled statistics, "The level of injury resulting from domestic violence is severe: of 218 women presenting at a metropolitan emergency department with injuries due to domestic violence, 28% required hospital admission, and 13% required major medical treatment. 40% had previously required medical care for abuse."

A couple of other things leap out from the ABA statistics:

  • In 2000, 1,247 women and 440 men were killed by an intimate partner. In recent years, an intimate partner killed approximately 33% of female murder victims and 4% of male murder victims.
  • Intimate partner violence made up 20% of all nonfatal violent crime experienced by women in 2001.

And of course, one can point to specific, horrific examples of attacks against women and girls by non-Muslims too. Remember Joel Steinberg, the New York City attorney who abused and killed his young daughter Lisa as well as his live-in lover Hedda Nussbaum? Or the story of a teenage Oregon girl who allegedly was killed "in the course of, or as a result of intentional maiming and torture" by her mother and step-father?

The problem of violence against women is a societal and global problem. While we should fight such violence in Muslim communities, we shouldn't pretend that it is limited to them as BigPeace.com does.

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    • Author by seahawks123 (August 09, 2010 12:19 pm ET)
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      I wonder how many forced female circumcisions are performed by non Muslims? I wonder how many women are stoned for adultery by non Muslims? I wonder how many women are severely beaten for being in public with a non relative man by non Muslims?
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 09, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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        I wonder how many forced female circumcisions are performed by non Muslims?

        As do I. Do you have any facts at all, or just baseless speculation.

        I wonder how many women are stoned for adultery by non Muslims?

        Read the Old Testament. There are some fairly stiff penalties in Jewish law, in case you were unaware.

        I wonder how many women are severely beaten for being in public with a non relative man by non Muslims?

        Another good question. If you're curious about wife beating, you might ask alcoholic Caucasians like Glenn Beck. They get a fair bit of wife beating done right here in the U.S. Are you really going to quibble over why someone beats their wife?
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        • Author by seahawks123 (August 09, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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          www.dailymail.co.uk/.../The-unspeakable-practice-female-circumcision-thats-destroying-young-womens-lives-Britain.html

          www.forwarduk.org.uk/key-issues/fgm

          As for stoning women for adultery we are talking about modern times not a couple of thousand years ago. Glenn Beck never beat his wife. But I bet you do. These women are getting beaten for just being in public with a non family man. Women are treated horribly in the Muslim culture. As a lib I thing that womens rights would be important to you but I guess that is just selective. Quit being an Islamic apologist.
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          • Author by raddave43 (August 09, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
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            Did you not read the second link that you gave (The first one didn't work)? It states:

            It is estimated that approximately 100-140 million African women have undergone FGM worldwide and each year, a further 3 million girls are estimated to be at risk of the practice in Africa alone. Most of them live in African countries, a few in the Middle East and Asian countries, and increasingly in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, the United States of America and Canada.


            emphasis added.
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            • Author by The_Cat (August 09, 2010 1:22 pm ET)
                 
              And from what I remember of female circumcision, it's more cultural than religious in any event.
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          • Author by The_Cat (August 09, 2010 1:28 pm ET)
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            As for stoning women for adultery we are talking about modern times not a couple of thousand years ago.


            And so you are willing to go deeply deeply into debt running around the world and changing every culture with which you disagree? Sounds very reactionary to me. Not to mention expensive and offensive. How about after we deal with homelessness and hunger in this country, we start to have the right to tell other countries how run things? What do you say?

            Glenn Beck never beat his wife. But I bet you do.


            And you completely miss the point about alcoholic American men beating their wives. Well done. I'm not an alcoholic. Glenn is. That gives him much better odds of being a wife beater than me. I can dig that math is not your thing.

            These women are getting beaten for just being in public with a non family man.

            And as I already pointed out, I think you're a fool for quibbling over why an abusive man would beat his wife, in any culture, in any country. It's not, however, merely a 'muslin' problem.

            As a lib I thing that womens rights would be important to you but I guess that is just selective.


            I've mentioned it before, but it bears repeating: I'm not liberal, conservative, Democrat, or Republican. I'm an iconoclast. I'm also not an Islamic apologist, but I will happily point out lies spread about them for political gain.
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      • Author by raddave43 (August 09, 2010 12:34 pm ET)
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        Female circumcision isn't a "Muslim thing" seaweed. It is a practice that originated in Africa, most likely Egypt and predates Islam by hundreds of years. In fact, the first mention of the practice was from Greece document from 163 B.C.

        There is many historic annecdotes about women being stoned for adultry in other culters beside Islamic countries. The saying "He who is without sin, cast the first stone," comes from a passage in the New Testament about a woman about to be stoned.

        And there are MANY women all over the world beaten for being in public with another man.
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        • Author by shaggles (August 09, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
             
          That's what I was thinking re: circumcision. Never associated it with Islam.
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      • Author by wookie (August 09, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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        Thanks to separation of church and state we have moved beyond our Scarlet Letter days.
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      • Author by The_Cat (August 09, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
           
        I wonder how many forced female circumcisions are performed by non Muslims?

        As do I. Do you have any facts at all, or just baseless speculation.

        I wonder how many women are stoned for adultery by non Muslims?

        Read the Old Testament. There are some fairly stiff penalties in Jewish law, in case you were unaware.

        I wonder how many women are severely beaten for being in public with a non relative man by non Muslims?

        Another good question. If you're curious about wife beating, you might ask alcoholic Caucasians like Glenn Beck. They get a fair bit of wife beating done right here in the U.S. Are you really going to quibble over why someone beats their wife?
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      • Author by bintx (August 09, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
           
        Most of them. Forced female circumcision predates Christianity AND Islam. It's a cultural, not religious, practice.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (August 09, 2010 3:37 pm ET)
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        In 2000, 1,247 women and 440 men were killed by an intimate partner. In recent years, an intimate partner killed approximately 33% of female murder victims and 4% of male murder victims.

        Yeah, muslims are the only ones to abuse their spouse.

        <sarc>
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    • Author by The_Cat (August 09, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
         
      A post on Andrew Breitbart's BigPeace.com claims that "previously unimagined assaults on women and girls are taking place almost exclusively from within Islamic communities."


      I wonder what kind of hardcore porn will have to be carefully edited together to prove this latest false claim, and if O'Reilly will air it over and over and over again.
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    • Author by GBU-15 (August 09, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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      How many women are beaten abused and killed by their boyfriends and husbands in the U.S.? Go ahead Seahawks! Drink the Kool-Aid! America is the "best" because we think it is. Just as many Muslim men love their women and will protect them from harm as in any Western country. The only news us Westerners want to hear or believe from Islamic countries is bad news. Muslims don't force their women to work in in strip bars do they now? And ask women to parade around in "Ho" clothes because us Western males think it's how a "hot" woman should look! I should not think Islamic women are into breast implants so they can have that "trophy wife" look. USA! USA! We're number one!
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      • Author by seahawks123 (August 09, 2010 12:39 pm ET)
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        I know you hate our country and take every opportunity to bash it. I think if you like the Muslim culture so much and hate ours then move there. I would be very glad to buy you a one way ticket.
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        • Author by raddave43 (August 09, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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          Move where? There is no country called Muslim
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        • Author by soze169880 (August 09, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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          So the only way to legitimately love America is by pretending that only Muslims abuse women?
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        • Author by shaggles (August 09, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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          HA! Good one. Move where? Muslimistan?
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          • Author by soze169880 (August 09, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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            See, this is why Glenn Beck is so dangerous. He's telling people like seahawks, who's got to be one of the stupidest people in the country at the very least, "Screw education! You don't need to learn what you're talking about, because you're already an expert on everything. As long as you believe everything I tell you, of course."
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (August 09, 2010 2:01 pm ET)
                 
              The new american meme:

              "Everything I need to know I learned off of Tee Vee."
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        • Author by bintx (August 09, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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          Stating fact is "hating our country"? Seriously, squawks? Give me a break.
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          • Author by nerzog (August 09, 2010 1:21 pm ET)
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            That's what the Republican party has spent years indoctrinating into mindless zombies like SeaSnake. If you even speculate that the U.S. may have done something wrong at some time in the past, you hate your country. It's just another form of Political Correctness, which they claim to hate.
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        • Author by highlyunlikely (August 09, 2010 7:38 pm ET)
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          shorter seahawks: I know nothing.
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    • Author by soze169880 (August 09, 2010 12:55 pm ET)
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      The really nauseating thing is that the right, which takes every opportunity to prove that it doesn't care about violence against women at ALL (Palin forcing women to pay for their rape kits, 30 Republican senators voting to protect rapists, the fact that the abstinence-only education they promote contributes to "rape culture" by reinforcing the myth that men have no control and it's up to the woman not to arouse them), but now they're pretending to because it's an opportunity to hate Muslims. I'm sure wanting American Muslims detained will become a membership requirement in the GOP within the next couple years.
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