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Glenn's Beck outrage will not be dissuaded by facts

August 11, 2010 8:39 pm ET by Christine Schwen

Glenn Beck devoted almost the entire first segment of his show to his outrage over the passage of the Educations Jobs and Medicaid Assistance Act, proving that he can manufacture outrage out of thin air, and clearly demonstrating why he should not be trusted to factually report on, well, anything, really.  

Beck's problem with the bill, which provides $26 billion to states to help them preserve teacher jobs and pay for Medicaid, is that Washington won't admit that they have a problem with spending. He declared that the day Washington politicians admit they have a problem with spending will be "the day that monkeys fly out of my butt."  

Then, showing the national debt on screen, Beck chillingly suggested that in passing bills like this one, Washington will "make our children a slave" to debt. He later claimed that "American taxpayers, you, had to shell out another 26 billion dollars" in order save the teachers' unions that won't make concessions:

Twenty-six billion dollars would be a lot to add to this year's deficit, except that this bill doesn't add to the deficit. In fact, as the Boston Globe reported, according to "an estimate from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, the bill would reduce the deficit by $1.4 billion over a decade."

How did the bill manage to provide $26 billion in state aid while reducing the deficit? By closing tax loopholes, and ending the increased aid to the food stamp program provided by the stimulus bill. Minutes later, Beck complained about some of those very same cuts that help the bill reduce the deficit:

So, Beck spent more than 20 minutes ranting about the cost of a bill that reduces the deficit. Even his ridiculous accents and shock-jock like stunts are more believable this manufactured outrage.

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    • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 11, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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      Boy, is Glenn going to take a beating when all of his fans do their own research on this, and bombard him with emails and phone calls correcting him.

      Just kidding.
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      • Author by boulderhippy (August 11, 2010 10:52 pm ET)
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        Correct him on what? He repeats conservative talking points. MMFA repeats marxist talking points. There is no correction involved when someone is on the correct side of the ideological spectrum.
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        • Author by politeradical (August 11, 2010 10:59 pm ET)
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          Wow way to debate the facts of the article which points out how demonstrably false Beck's assertions are.
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        • Author by Bongo Fury (August 11, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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          "Cut the telephone lines.The story's the same."..Jimmy Ibbotson
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        • Author by cst (August 11, 2010 11:19 pm ET)
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          "There is no correction involved when someone is on the correct side of the ideological spectrum."
          So the whole concept of PROVABLE FACTUAL INACCURACY is utterly irrelevant to you? That, quite frankly, does more to discredit anything you say than your ideology ever will. But I guess you're just following in the footsteps of Beck who said (and I AM quoting) "You've got to believe in SOMETHING... even if it's wrong".
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        • Author by politeradical (August 11, 2010 11:25 pm ET)
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          Wow way to debate the facts of the article which points out how demonstrably false Beck's assertions are.
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        • Author by New Frontier (August 11, 2010 11:29 pm ET)
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          MMFA repeats marxist talking points.
          Such as? Oh, I see. You've got nothin', as usual.
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        • Author by txthinker (August 12, 2010 12:29 am ET)
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          Correct him on what? He repeats conservative talking points. MMFA repeats marxist talking points. There is no correction involved when someone is on the correct side of the ideological spectrum.
          I had no idea that the truth was considered "marxist talking points". Boulderhippy is so far away from the correct side of the ideological spectrum that he can't see it with a telescope.
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        • Author by internet soldier (August 12, 2010 2:11 am ET)
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          Correct him on what? He repeats conservative talking points. MMFA repeats marxist talking points. There is no correction involved when someone is on the correct side of the ideological spectrum.
          In other words, Glenn Beck is right........ because he's right. We should send you to a team of psychiatrists as the perfect example of an unthinking, faith-driven cult follower.

          Hah! No proof needed when you have the correct ideology, now that is a real classic!
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 2:46 am ET)
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          Boulderhippy, do you have a PayPal account? I'd like to send you a couple bucks every time you post here to confirm the idiocy of the Beck audience.

          That's like saying "Scientists repeat factual talking points, and Creationists repeat mythological talking points. How can the scientists correct them when the Creationists are on your side of the debate?'"

          You seem to be getting stupider all the time.
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        • Author by Johaely (August 12, 2010 3:58 am ET)
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          There is no correction involved when someone is on the correct side of the ideological spectrum.


          Wow such modesty. I wish i could be more like you.
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    • Author by politeradical (August 11, 2010 10:58 pm ET)
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      Like the morons who tune into this idiot do their own research or think their own thoughts.

      Remember the Tea Party motto: "Socialism for me and not for thee."
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      • Author by FinanceBuzz (August 12, 2010 11:57 am ET)
           
        Well I just looked at the articled that MMFD cited as "evidence" for myself and I quickly saw through the spin that this bill pays for itself. It is a bunch hooey that would not pass a first year accounting class exam. (See analysis below.)
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 12, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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      Yeah, Glenn this is so horrible that we want to keep teachers on the payroll so our children can get educated. It's so horrible that we want people to have medical care. The abomination of it all is so horrible, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

      So, Glenn, as I think I've asked some conservatives before, you're talking about the State governments turning down this money (which would be utterly stupid, but then again, look who is pushing this), I ask you sir, will you stand by your convictions?

      Such as, Glenn, stop using ALL resources that are provided to you through federal monies. A small list would be, local police (receive a lot of federal funding), the roads, the fire department, flying anywhere, driving on interstates, and so on and so forth.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (August 12, 2010 11:32 am ET)
           
        Not to mention anything associated with broadcasting, TV or radio that has any development or subsidizing government connection.
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      • Author by FinanceBuzz (August 12, 2010 12:00 pm ET)
           
        It is not about keeping teachers working so we can educate our children. (Cut the violin music.) Here is a reality check. People of all stripes have lost jobs. Not good, but reality. Why should the government be spending more and more in a time of weak economic growth to prop up one sector of employment? Oh yeah. That sector just happens to be very heavily inclined to vote for Democrats. The Democrats are in trouble in November and need to shore up their base if they are to have any chance of retaining the House and limiting losses in the Senate. Hence, a big bailout, targeted at their supporters, using tax money from others from employment sectors that have been hit hard as well. This is not about education. It is about politics as is just about everything that comes out of Washington. And if you cannot see that you are politically naive or just playing politics yourself to defend your party.
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    • Author by FinanceBuzz (August 12, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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      Media Matters for Democrats you are being intellectually dishonest on this one. Technically, you are correct that the bill in total will reduce the deficit as it is packaged. (Let's not even get into the fact that fact that government cost estimates are never wrong. (/sarcasm) ) But let's consider how they are reducing the deficit. As noted in the two sources that MMFD cites: they are "closing tax loopholes" (i.e., raising taxes, aka tax and spend) and ending some increases in food stamp expenditures. Now I ask you, if the Dems wanted to raise business taxes which are already too high, could they have done it in a separate bill? Of course. Could they have rolled back the food stamp spending in a separate bill? Of course. In fact, what do food stamps have to do funding jobs for teachers, firefighters, etc.? Nothing!

      The reality is that these components of this bill are not an integrated hole that cannot be separated. No, they are a but of distinct pieces that were simply packaged together in a creative way so that the Dems and their mouthpieces in the media and places like Media Matters for Democrats could trumpet that the bill reduces the deficit and be technically accurate. However, intellectual honesty would compel you to note that, since these pieces could easily stand alone without any single one of the other pieces, that the bill reduced the deficit is a misdirection. The reality is that this is new spending that bails out public employee unions with no integrated way to pay for it. If you were in an accounting class and matched this revenue to these costs, the professor would give you a big fat F. But in Washington, you do whatever it takes to spin things so you can spend, spend, spend on those that are on your side. This is known as buying votes with our tax dollars.

      So, once again, MMFD is wrong. Beck sees through this smoke screen and points out the intellectually honest reality behind the spin. Granted, he has an element of entertainment and did offer a dry analysis as above, but, despite MMFD's bluster, he is pretty much dead on in his analysis. No surprise.
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