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WashPost lets Beck, Bachmann spin rally attendance

August 29, 2010 10:51 am ET by Eric Boehlert

From the Post's write-up of the Glenn Beck rally, here's the only mention of the crowd size debate [emphasis added]:

The size of the gathering promises to be a subject of contention. Demonstrations on the Mall are notoriously difficult to estimate, with no official source for such figures. At one point, Beck joked he had "just gotten word from the media that there is over a thousand people here today." Later, he told he [sic] crowd he heard it was "between 300,000 and 500,000."

Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), speaking soon after the Beck rally at her own impromptu event nearby, said: "We're not going to let anyone get away with saying there were less than a million here today - because we were witnesses."

So if you read only the Post account you'd think that the point of " contention" was between conservative Beck (500K!) and conservative Bachmann (1M!).

But of course, the contention stemmed from skeptics who wondered if, like Tea Party organizers in the past, Beck and his allies would simply concoct the size of the rally. Y'know, the way Tea Party fans claimed 2M people marched on Washington, D.C. in Sept. 2009, when in fact, according to fire department estimates, just 60-70,000 people marched.

Oops.

And sure enough, according to an outside firm hired by CBS News, the only independent and semi-official estimate of Saturday's crowd was pegged at 87,000. (Or about 900,000 less than Bachmann's claim.) But the Post forgot to include that in its article. Instead, the Post simply allowed Beck and Bachmann to pull crowd size numbers out of thin air.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (August 29, 2010 10:58 am ET)
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      Again, MMFA doesn't seem to be quite sure how ConMath works.
      Beck says between 300,000-500,000, Bachman says at least 1 million...that adds up to 1,300,000 to 2,000,000(I added in the TV viewers just to be fair).

      Some people say that Palin demands $1.00 per person so her side will bring out a figure around 2 1/2 million.

      And is Bachman gauranteed to win this time around?
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      • Author by rkcomments (August 29, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        I bet if you ask good ol' Rasmussen the number will be more like 7-8 million in attendance!
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        • Author by princeofwheels (August 29, 2010 3:26 pm ET)
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          It should be higher since every TPer will swear they were in attendance and witnessed it for themselves.

          Raspy will conduct a poll with questions supplied by Luntz. Over 110% of all Republicans responding that they were there. So between the Repubs and the Tpers, 700 million were in attendance and Beck rose to heaven just before Palin denied him three times.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 29, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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            We had a horrible creature here by the name of Dixie Hick who was whining yesterday on every thread about not being able to attend the event and saying that anyone who wasn't moved by the event has no soul, or some such s**t. I don't need Glenda to validate what I believe in, and I told her so.
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            • Author by princeofwheels (August 29, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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              If it makes Dixie Hick happy, I had a bowel movement listening to Beck.
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        • Author by Far Left but Always Right (August 30, 2010 8:01 pm ET)
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          Rasmussen did their survey* on the Beck even and sure enough 7-8 million** attendees.

          *Phone survey. No answer = yes my entire family*** attended
          ***Entire Family= 100 people

          **Margin of Error -7,900,000
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    • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (August 29, 2010 11:27 am ET)
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      If the WaPoo ombudsman doesn't weigh in on this, he and the WaPoo deserve to be blasted.
      ~
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    • Author by nerzog (August 29, 2010 11:39 am ET)
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      It will go down in history as the Million Troglodyte March.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 29, 2010 12:02 pm ET)
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      But the real burning question is who made money on the deal...
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (August 29, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
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      I'm certain we'll be hearing how the Burning Beck crowd, "stretched down the length of the reflecting pool!"

      And as those boasts are made I'm betting they'll shy away from showing the aerial photographs. Yes, they certain did extend their audience that far, but a quick look will show how they were boxed in behind the guard rails, and while the line is long, it's also obviously thin.

      I found this on Reuters.

      [http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20100828&t=2&i=191458788&w=390&fh=390&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=2010-08-28T192335Z_01_BTRE67R1HWB00_RTROPTP_0_USA-POLITICS-RALLY]

      It can't help be noticed that there's a lot of empty, green spaces in the areas behind the main line. They're not exactly packed in tight.

      Now compare that to this photo taken from Obama's inauguration.

      [http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20090120/inauguration_1_crop.jpg]

      Mind you, that's the area around the Capitol that was reserved for 240,000 ticket holders.

      So, do they really want to run with the 300,000, 500,000, 1,000,000 estimates?

      Well, I'm hoping they do. It just gives us another something to laugh at.

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      • Author by epkklk851 (August 29, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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        They were also boxed in by portapotties. There were very few sitting under the cover of trees, despite dry grass, nice shade and the ability to hear what was going on. The 9/12 rally last year, lightly filled the area between the streets, nearly straight down from the Capitol building, going back to 2nd Street. There was no one in the side areas.
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      • Author by ProgLib (August 30, 2010 6:29 am ET)
           
        Thanks for the pictures, MW. I definitely hope, for Glenn's insanity, that it's 87,000. It will be like the 9/12 rally all over again, where (as you mentioned) they made those false claims about the crowd estimates being up to 2 million.
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (August 30, 2010 11:15 pm ET)
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        So by your "calibrated" eye how many are YOU saying attended? What time was the aerial shot taken? Seems the reputable new agencies aren't agreeing with the left on this one.

        By any estimation the crowd was large and easily the biggest over the last ten years there.

        BTW...how big Sharpton's crowd? Nothing but hate spewing at that event from what I saw.
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    • Author by AB-001 (August 29, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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      I like to think of it this way: it's not how many people were at the rally, it's how many were not. Millions.

      Just because a few talking heads who know how to stage a publicity sucking event or know how to work a camera doesn't mean they have the majority under their spell.

      Or at their beck and call, if you will
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      • Author by grrson (August 29, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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        Just goes to show what we've all known for a while now:
        That a small portion of the population of the U.S. is completely and utterly bats--t crazy.
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    • Author by DellDolly (August 29, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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      This was the same way it was framed in my local newspaper - not sure if it was a feed from the Post or from wire stories, but I read their assertions this morning, without any contradictory info, and I thought the same thing as Boehlert thought.
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    • Author by Unreality (August 29, 2010 2:36 pm ET)
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      There were a billion Muslims at the rally. Try to refute that one, Glenn.
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    • Author by fredmast (August 29, 2010 7:18 pm ET)
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      "... the Post simply allowed Beck and Bachmann to pull crowd size numbers out of thin air."

      Oh, that's not where they were pulling the numbers from. Think lower. And behind them.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (August 29, 2010 8:44 pm ET)
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        Thanks for the laugh. Your comment amuses me to no end. You're dead on about where Glenda and Shelley found their attendance numbers. I'm still laughing.
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