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Glenn Beck's kind of university teaches Young Earth creationism, fines students $500 for "involvement with witchcraft"

September 02, 2010 12:30 pm ET by Ben Dimiero

Last night, Fox News televangelist Glenn Beck railed on universities, declaring that "we have been setting up re-education camps. We call them universities." Beck also explained that "our children are being submerged in the filth of communism" at schools around the country.

While Beck lobs the usual conservative vitriol at the supposed indoctrination taking place on many campuses around the country, he apparently does not think all institutions of higher learning are evil.

In May of this year, Glenn Beck gave a tear-soaked commencement speech at Liberty University, the largest evangelical Christian university in the world. The speech included Beck's usual over-the-top rhetoric, including his advice to grads that they should "shoot to kill." In a preview of his dramatic recent turn towards hyper-religiosity, Beck declared that God's "finger was on the back of Columbus," and that "God's finger...wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution." He added, "This is God's country. These are God's rights."

Both before and after his commencement speech, Beck has hosted Jerry Falwell Jr. -- current chancellor of Liberty University -- to discuss issues like social justice and plug Liberty U.

But Beck has done more than allow Falwell Jr. to plug his university; Beck himself has explicitly endorsed Liberty as a "university where your kids are safe, and your kids can actually learn, and not be filled with a bunch of nonsense." During a June 25 segment on his radio show, Beck and Falwell Jr. discussed a donated four year scholarship to Liberty University that Beck was going to auction off as part of fundraising for Beck's then-upcoming "Restoring Honor" rally.

GLENN: 11 more days, so it's another week, and we were down Pat and I were down when I gave the commencement address, we were down at liberty and I have to tell you, really not only impressed with the campus and what you guys are doing, but also I met many of the professors, many of the people that are putting your -- you know, your whole curriculum and everything your whole philosophy together every year, and it is really impressive what you guys are doing. I mean it's --

JERRY: A lot of people think it's just a Bible school, but it's a liberal arts university, it's fully accredited, 140 different undergraduate and graduate programs, with 63,000 students now. We just passed Ohio state to become the 7th largest university, four year university in the United States. So it's --

GLENN: That's amazing.

JERRY: -- because of our commitment to the founding principles to the Judeo-Christian ethic, and it's an exciting place to be.

[...]

GLENN: God bless you Jerry, we'll talk to you again and I thank you so much for your amazing contribution to the 8-28 rally, and we'll see you again my friend.

JERRY: Good news, yesterday was the first day that Glenn Beck Show was on the radio here on Lynchburg on WLNI, 105.9 so we can finally pick you up over the air waves.

GLENN: That's great. Thank you, I appreciate it. God bless you. Jerry Falwell from Liberty University. This is a university where your kids are safe, and your kids can actually learn, and not be filled with a bunch of nonsense. Liberty University, if you want to bid on that charity auction for 828, $80,000 value it's at 27,000 now for a four year full residence scholarship. Check it out atGlennBeck.com/828.

So what is the "whole philosophy" of Liberty University that really "impressed" Beck? Let's start with their draconian code of conduct, known as "The Liberty Way." Some highlights:

  • It is a $50 fine and "12 Reprimands" for "attendance at, possession or viewing" of an "R"-rated movie.
  • Involvement with "witchcraft" is treated harsher than sexual or racial harassment. While it is a $250 fine, "18 Reprimands," and "18 Hours Disciplinary Community Service" for sexual or racial harassment, it is a $500 fine, with "30 Hours Disciplinary Community Service," "30 Reprimands," and "Possible Administrative Withdrawal" for "involvement with witchcraft, séances, or other satanic or demonic activity." The fine for "involvement with witchcraft" is the same as "possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages."
  • "Association with those consuming alcohol" results in a $250 fine and community service.
  • Both men and women are not allowed to have "hair and clothing style related to a counterculture." Men cannot have hair that is "longer than the middle of the ear" and ponytails for men are strictly "unacceptable." Women must not wear anything "tight, scant, backless, see-through, low in the neckline or revealing the midriff," and any tank tops must have shoulder straps that are "no less than two inches wide." Violation of this policy results in "4 Reprimands" and a $10 fine.
  • It is a $10 fine and "4 Reprimands" for "improper personal contact," which they define as "anything beyond hand-holding."  (Side note: there would have been a lot of fines handed out at Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally, because he suggested that people greet each other with hugs.)
  • "Attendance at a dance" results in "6 Reprimands" and a $25 fine.

In addition to the strict code of conduct for students, Liberty's treatment of important academic issues stands in stark contrast to Beck's description of Liberty as a place where "your kids can actually learn, and not be filled with a bunch of nonsense."

According to Liberty's curriculum, a "bunch of nonsense" includes the theory of evolution. Liberty's "Center for Creation Studies" states their purpose as promoting "the development of a consistent biblical view of our origins as students. The Center seeks to equip students to defend their faith in the creation account in Genesis using science, reason and the Scriptures." In other words, Liberty teaches its students the scientifically baseless theory that is Young Earth creationism, which posits that the earth is 5,000-10,000 years old and was created exactly how it was described in the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament.

Washington Post article from March described a trip that Liberty students took to the Smithsonian's National Museum of Natural History. In it, Liberty professor David DeWitt decried the lack of balance at the museum, and criticized the museum for being "completely 100 percent evolution-based."

In a March Agence France Press story about the rise of creationism in the U.S. - and the Liberty trip to the Smithsonian that the WaPo wrote about - Liberty paleontology professor Marcus Ross positedthat dinosaur bones were "deposited at the late stages of Noah's flood," which he pinpoints as happening "four and a half, or five thousand years ago."

So when Glenn Beck rails about universities indoctrinating students, it's worth keeping in mind what he considers the kind of place that "your kids can actually learn, and not be filled with a bunch of nonsense."

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    • Author by mata ruach (September 02, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
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      Whew! I sure am glad that Liberty students aren't casting spells or dancing! Now I can sleep at night.....
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      • Author by mata ruach (September 02, 2010 12:41 pm ET)
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        Liberty U. students are told never to have sex while standing. (After marriage , of course!) It leads to dancing.
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        • Author by neon desert (September 02, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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          I can't help imagining a scenario where they held a meeting and came up with all their rules and regulations first, and THEN at the end of the meeting, went on to name it "Liberty" University.

          And then I think of the neoconderthal Clear Air Initiative and the Clean Water Act, and it fits nicely...
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          • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 1:30 pm ET)
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            ...Fair and Balanced.
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          • Author by mjlilgui (September 02, 2010 2:19 pm ET)
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            I grew up in Lynchburg and lived about 10 minutes from Liberty University. Jerry Falwell was a horrible person, disgustingly intolerant, and absolutely insufferable in person. He routinely told my friends they were going to hell when he saw them around town acting like teenagers (i.e. laughing, carrying on).

            I've been chased off of Liberty's campus for cursing while playing a sport (I wasn't a student and I wasn't trespassing). Falwell had the whole town afraid of him, had the local government stocked with his people. He and his followers zoned out everything fun in the area... no bars or pubs whatsoever.

            I went to high school with a lot of people who went to his church. They were humorless, blindly patriotic (verbally and physically assaulted people who didn't respect the "moment of silence" or didn't voluntarily say the pledge of allegiance), and very homophobic.

            His wife wasn't much better. My mother worked at a retail shop and his wife wrote a check for a large order. My mother asked her for her ID and she huffed and sputtered: "Don't you know who I am?" To which my mother responded "No, I don't, and that's why I need to see your ID."

            A couple years before he passed, he clear-cut a large swath of the mountain next to his university and painted a huge "LU" there. Sometimes I wish he'd named it "Falwell University." Then, at least, the mountain would reflect how he actually viewed the world.

            A final note... the section of VA29 that runs through Lynchburg was renamed after Falwell immediately after he passed. It kills me every time I drive on it.
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    • Author by Russ139 (September 02, 2010 12:40 pm ET)
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      How can a university that views evolution as "a bunch of nonsense" become accredited?
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      • Author by cst (September 02, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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        The Religous Right has "friends in high places"- you know, the "contribute to my re-election fund" kind...
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (September 02, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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          Accredidation Process:

          "Fill out this form and send in with $10,000 application fee."
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    • Author by highlyunlikely (September 02, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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      Liberty U. is about as exciting as Beck is fascinating and perceptive.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (September 02, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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      I would have never lasted a week at that school.
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      • Author by bodhi057 (September 02, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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        Yeah, my fines would have surpassed tuition fairly quickly. R-rated movies? Seriously?
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        • Author by epkklk851 (September 02, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
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          I remember about a week after my 17th birthday it dawned on me that I was now able to go to R-rated movies without worrying about getting caught. I was very happy.
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          • Author by dkylep (September 02, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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            Take heart though epkk. It must be comforting to know that those at Liberty hold the place of women so highly that sexual harassment is viewed as less of a sin and rule breakage than daring to drink an alcoholic beverage.

            And what if the R-rated movie you're watching has scenes of witchcraft in it? What if the R-rated movie you're watching has scenes of witchcraft in it where the witches are drinking beer and sexually harassing others? All while wearing revealing clothing?

            Shoot, you might just make the administrator's head explode!
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            • Author by epkklk851 (September 02, 2010 1:17 pm ET)
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              Sounds good to me. I once knew a student who wanted to go to Indonesia and pee in an elevator while chewing gum and reading Chinese pornography. He figured he'd get the death penalty. (This was at the time they caned the American boy.) Sometimes, rules are so stupid, you just have to break them. I drank, had sex, and learned how to play cards during my first quarter away from home. My grades suffered, my parents were annoyed, but I married the boy.
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            • Author by cst (September 02, 2010 1:35 pm ET)
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              What if thre "R" rated movie is PASSION OF THE CHRIST?
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          • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 1:33 pm ET)
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            If you're old enough, you may remember the "M" rating. I think it eventually became PG-13. When I was 13, my mother let me go see my first M-rated movie: Barbarella.

            I was scarred for life.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (September 02, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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              I do remember the M rating. "Rated M for mature audiences..." I don't think I have ever seen "Barbarella" all the way through, it was just so bad! When it comes to sex-kitten roles, my husband and I both liked Mrs. Peel on the TV version of "The Avengers". I wanted to be like her and well, he was a teenage boy.
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              • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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                I remember that, as well. The Avengers was one of my Father's favorite shows, and I figured out why as I got older.

                Barbarella was a terrible movie, but the opening weightless striptease was worth the price of admission... or at least I thought so then.
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                • Author by epkklk851 (September 02, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
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                  I'm not sure I've seen that part of the movie. If you want to see a strip tease, I recommend "Smile" from 1975. Annette O'Toole is demonstrating her "talent" in a teen beauty contest. And Melanie Griffith gets caught topless in the locker room. It's a small film, but so funny.
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                  • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 2:25 pm ET)
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                    It could be that the striptease was taken out in later copies, maybe at Jane Fonda's request. I've not seen the DVD version.

                    I remember hearing an interview with one of the producers of The Avengers, and he said their biggest obstacle when casting Mrs. Peel was finding a woman who didn't run like a duck. That image has stuck with me, for some reason.

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                • Author by cst (September 02, 2010 2:10 pm ET)
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                  BARBARELLA is hilarous, but I'm not sure how much of that is intentional. Love the crazy sets and costumes.
                  Mrs. Emma Peel is, of course, Queen Of All Women.
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      • Author by xlrrp173 (September 02, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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        Wouldda took me about an hour, terreapin53.
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    • Author by thaneb (September 02, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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      "Richness trends of mosasaurs (Diapsida, Squamata) during the late Cretaceous" Marcus Ross, Ph.D. Thesis (2006), University of Rhode Island.
      A form of "lying for Jesus?"
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    • Author by michaelr (September 02, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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      I just glanced through the PDF. I cannot believe this is real.

      Glenn Beck loves his freedom and loves his "Liberty" university but that Code of Conduct has less freedom than a gulag.

      The government run state universities don't tell you how to dress, but this private university will fine you if they don't like the way you dress.

      Which goes to show you that if we privatize more of society, we'll actually lose more of our freedom.
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      • Author by bodhi057 (September 02, 2010 1:08 pm ET)
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        I just took a gander- Miracle Geese! (sorry) and noticed that they random drug test their students. Wow!
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      • Author by grrson (September 02, 2010 1:20 pm ET)
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        One of the worst parts, I thought, was that through 'The Liberty Way' the administrators are tacitly encouraging their network of student snitches to report on other students for any 'immoral' behavior.

        What young person in their right mind would ever want to attend such a place?

        I went to a severely liberal arts university (Appalachian State) and it was one of the best, most fun and educational times in my life. I think I did enough my first day at college to have gotten me kicked out of Liberty. And that doesn't include any of the drugs or alcohol.

        I DO like their logo, though. A giant flame on top of the university looks like a good thing to me.
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    • Author by vysotsky (September 02, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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      Um... so the "Liberty" in Liberty University's name is meant with sarcasm?
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      • Author by dkylep (September 02, 2010 1:03 pm ET)
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        Sarcasm? SARCASM! Blasphemous dog, such literary techniques are the work of the devil and Liberty University has no truck with that! That'll be a $250 fine and 30 demerits!

        Lol
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 02, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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        No kidding, this is like Taliban U.
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        • Author by Major Tom (September 02, 2010 1:57 pm ET)
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          I like how the penalties are stiff, But not really for a girl wearing revealing clothing... $10 bucks. Big deal... But have a glass of red wine with dinner?- $250.
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    • Author by AB-001 (September 02, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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      Are students given an exemption for the bloody, gory, violence-drenched and deservedly R ratedThe Passion of the Christ, which was praised by Liberty University's founder, Dr. Jerry Falwell: "I am praying that Mel Gibson's movie will have a powerful impact on our culture and that it will appeal to millions of movie lovers who are starving for a glimmer of honesty regarding the miraculous and life-changing story of the One who died for everyone, no matter their religious heritage, station in life, sexual preference or skin color."

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      • Author by mjlilgui (September 02, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
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        They were allowed to view it as the moral impact of not seeing it would be far greater than the moral impact of viewing an R-rated movie.
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    • Author by Russ139 (September 02, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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      Love the part where young Falwell compares is school to Ohio State (because of the large on-line enrollment. Well, here's the list of largest on-line "universities" in the U.S.

      1. University of Phoenix
      2. Strayer University
      3. Kaplan University
      4. Walden University
      5. Nova Southeastern University
      6. Liberty University
      7. American Intercontinental University
      8. Capella University
      9. Grand Canyon University
      10. Ashford University

      Some really top schools there, eh?
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 02, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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        It's amazing how important those Groupthink numbers are to wingnuts. In the same way they respond to the exposure of Faux news lies with ratings, they seem to think that a large number of enrolees validates this make-believe college.
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        • Author by magnolialover (September 02, 2010 1:56 pm ET)
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          True. So since Liberty has more people attending it than say, Duke, Harvard, or Yale, they MUST be better right?
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        • Author by Porkeater (September 02, 2010 2:06 pm ET)
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          Groupthink numbers

          Amazing indeed. Such folk appear to think that truth is a matter of how many people believe/swallow a thing. Democracy taken to the level of stupid.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 02, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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            It's why the official crowd estimate for Beck's weekend whatever-it-was is around 70,000, but Beck keeps going with his wild guess of 500,000. It's easier for people to be stupid if they think a lot of other people are just as stupid.
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      • Author by dmhack (September 02, 2010 1:51 pm ET)
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        I guess Liberty U online is for home-schooling parents who think the LU guidelines are still a bit too loose for their kids.
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    • Author by SMTDL (September 02, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
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      Wow..now explain again how all that oil,gas and coal was created from organic material that was once alive such a short time ago, while cavemen were herding dinosaurs and oceans changed into deserts overnight it seems.Ignore those fossils of sea creatures in the Sahara,the grand canyon was made by the great flood and Noah even got the dinos on to the ark! The lions and tigers didn't even eat meat(or people) and all the animals just " got along" until men messed up and sinned...darn see what happens when you listen to a talking snake.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (September 02, 2010 1:10 pm ET)
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        Not a problem for Mormons, given that they believe that there were once decendants of Hebrews living in the New World, all this despite a lack of physical, linguistic, or genetic evidence. Beckie wasn't raised in the faith, he converted a little over ten years ago, when we had DNA.
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    • Author by Ecotopian (September 02, 2010 1:26 pm ET)
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      So Beck thinks that God's "finger was on the back of Columbus" and that it also wrote the U.S. Constitution? A Native American subjected to Columbus's murderous barbarism or an American black defined in the Constitution as three-fifths of a man would have found those claims very interesting indeed.
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    • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 1:39 pm ET)
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      Okay... so let me get this straight. Moses Beck thinks real Universities are practicing some form of brainwashing, but just loves Liberty U., where religious liberty is forbidden, and they teach fairy tales as science?

      He's just jerking us around again, isn't he?
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 02, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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      The thing is though, like all Universities, going to Liberty is of course, not mandatory. People choose to go there, knowing full well the rules, and regs, and what is being taught there.
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 02, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
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      Oh, one more funny thing about Liberty. I knew a woman who went there, and even though there was no contact past hand holding allowed, she got pregnant by her fellow first year student. Oops...
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    • Author by nerzog (September 02, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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      There's another Wingnut University called Regent, which was founded by Pat Robertson.

      The scary thing about Regent is that a lot of their "Law School" graduates ended up working in the Bush Administration, and some may still be infesting various departments.

      I saw one graduating senior interviewed, and she said "We have to get beyond this individual rights view of the Constitution and return to Biblical Values".

      Yep... this idiot was on her way to practice law in the U.S.A.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (September 02, 2010 3:05 pm ET)
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      So Beck supports a "university" that actively indoctrinates their students and is anti-science. And people defend him -- and Liberty U -- because...?
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    • Author by Jen7 (September 02, 2010 5:08 pm ET)
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      All these rules sound just like BYU housing rules. No drinking, no smoking...etc. This is Mormon stuff, guys.
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