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Fox now attacking Obama's reasons for becoming a Christian

September 30, 2010 9:16 am ET by Adam Shah

Yesterday, Fox News host Bill Hemmer brought on Father Jonathan Morris -- a Catholic priest and Fox News contributor -- to analyze President Obama's statements about why he became a Christian. And the discussion was not pretty. Morris claimed that while Obama's answer was "pretty good" if "charitably interpreted," he added that "it was not how the average Christian in the United States would answer that question."

Later, Hemmer told a flat-out falsehood to purportedly explain why a large percentage of people incorrectly think Obama is a Muslim or don't know whether he is a Muslim or a Christian. Hemmer falsely claimed that "in modern-day politics, [Obama's] the first president that has chosen not to go to church every week," contrasting Obama with -- among others -- former President George W. Bush. In fact, Bush did not regularly attend church as president and never picked a church to attend in Washington. Neither, for that matter, did former President Ronald Reagan.

Here's Morris critique of Obama's comments:

MORRIS: You know, not too bad. Charitably interpreted, pretty good. But it's not how the average Christian in the United States would answer that question. "I'm a Christian by choice." "It was the precepts of Christianity -- of Jesus Christ that attracted me." The precepts. That's not how the average Christian would respond. Christianity for most Christians who have it as a big part of their life, it's a falling in love not with precepts. Who's going to fall in love with the Ten Commandments? It's the falling in love with -- or the getting to know personally -- a person named Jesus of Nazareth.

If this critique of Obama's statements about faith sounds familiar, recall that Glenn Beck has said: I think [Obama] is a Christian that Christians don't recognize."

As for Hemmer's comments, as we've pointed out, both Bush and Reagan reportedly did not attend church regularly as president.

But getting back to the larger picture, this segment shows one Fox contributor claiming that Obama's interpretation of his faith is "not how the average Christian in the United States" would put it. But later in the segment Hemmer attacked Obama for not being public enough about his faith. Obama just can't win.

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    • Author by nerzog (September 30, 2010 9:21 am ET)
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      ...no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

      I really think this is all that needs to be said about the matter.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (September 30, 2010 9:34 am ET)
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      Ummmm, Father Morris...don't you think most Christians are BORN into their faith? That Christianity was chosen for them by their parents? Perhaps you are suggesting Barack Obama's experience was not sufficiently American...

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      • Author by mk3872 (September 30, 2010 9:41 am ET)
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        "American" (c) Fox News 2010 = rich conservative white guys
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (September 30, 2010 10:24 am ET)
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        I'm not religious at all, but I've always taken people more seriously about their faith when it was something they discovered themselves , rather than the " I'm a Mouseketeerian because my parents were MOuseketeerians". At least the converts, or DIY-types, worked for it.

        But then, the right seems to have the same attitude about money as they do about religion. They respect it a lot more if it was inherited, an accident of birth, than if the person earned it themselves.

        The status quo and existing power structure is more important to the right than the American values of success through hard work and self-sufficiency, yet millions of average GOP voters still believe the ruling class of elites want noting more than for them to succeed.
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 30, 2010 9:34 am ET)
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      Going to church, does not make one a good Christian. I have believed that for a long time now. You don't need to go to a building once per week to prove that you're a Christian. Your acts, your life, and who you are make you a Christian.

      I know plenty of people who go to church every single week, and sometimes more than that, and I would consider them awful Christians.
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    • Author by mk3872 (September 30, 2010 9:40 am ET)
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      Does Fox News really believe that Bush went to church every Sunday??? Good grief ...

      And I think it would quite a stretch to say that the "average" Christian "falls in love" with Christ! Ick ...

      I think what they all meant to say is something like this:

      Obama is a black Muslim, so nothing he does or says will ever change our minds
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    • Author by Tbone Slickens (September 30, 2010 9:45 am ET)
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      Why is Barry talking up his faith now? He wouldn't be pandering to the voters would he? The left wing base isn't going to be happy with all this Christian/God talk especially for the handful of moderates he calculates he could attract. As Bill Maher said, "embrace your inner atheist"!
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      • Author by MickD (September 30, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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        Why do "representatives" of the right wing keep screaming Muslim, Muslim, Muslim? Scare tactics. And the woman asked him a question about it, which is why he talked about it.
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      • Author by usp (September 30, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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        i think barry was asked a question about his faith- see, that's how it works. you ask a question and normal people come forward with an answer slickbone.
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      • Author by worrierking (September 30, 2010 10:04 am ET)
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        You know damn well why he is talking about his faith.

        Someone asked him a question.
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      • Author by MidnightWriter (September 30, 2010 10:07 am ET)
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        "Why is (Obama) talking up his faith now? He wouldn't be pandering to the voters, would he?"

        You mean something along the lines of what this candidate is doing?

        Answer: Not quite.
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      • Author by bintx (September 30, 2010 10:42 am ET)
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        Well, it could be because he was asked a freaking question about, Slick. What the hell was he supposed to say, "next question"? Lord, KEEP UP!
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      • Author by nerzog (September 30, 2010 10:42 am ET)
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        Because the Troglodytes won't shut the f*** up about it.
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      • Author by Jen7 (September 30, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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        You completely miss the mark. The left doesn't care if you are religious. What they DO care about is if they use their religion to take away our rights. The left doesn't SHOVE their religion in people's faces, like the right does. The left don't use it for political gain. The right does.

        The media and the right created 'Obama's religion problem', not Obama. Again, this is all centered around Obama not being a 'real citizen'. He's 'foreign'. 'Un-American'. 'Muslim'. 'Kenyan'.

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      • Author by mk3872 (September 30, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
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        You do realize he was answering a question, right? Genius ...
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 30, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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      Morris claimed that while Obama's answer was "pretty good" if "charitably interpreted," he added that "it was not how the average Christian in the United States would answer that question."

      LOL... No, most Americans (if they were being hoonest) would answer as I would:

      That I'm Christian in the way that if a cow was born in a tree, he'd be a bird.

      --------------------------------------------
      IMHO

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    • Author by phredicles (September 30, 2010 9:54 am ET)
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      Besides, the president's giving an answer that isn't "average" is exactly the reason so many of us admire him: We've seen where "average" - or worse - in leadership has gotten us as a country.
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    • Author by mrahen (September 30, 2010 10:10 am ET)
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      CBS ran a segment on American's relgious knowledge. They failed misrably. Those who know the most about relgions were atheist, agnostics and Jews. At the bottom were Catholics. Only about 30% knew that the first book of the bible was Genesis.
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      • Author by dazednamused (October 01, 2010 6:25 am ET)
           
        I saw that story and got a real kick out of it. The simple truth is that most atheists come to it through a period and process of reasoned examination. I was raised in a moderate Catholic family and decided to have a little look-see at the Bible from cover to cover to make up my mind on it. When I put it down, poof, I'm an atheist. It's that simple. I think non-believers are also a bit more aware that there's a pretty big world out there with a host of different beliefs and they either explore different faiths to find one that suits them, or are just plain tolerant people who are curious about the world and absorb little ideas from different cultures when they hear or read about them. Fundies live in a bubble and absorb nothing except their own dogma. And they call us arrogant. That's No. 1 on my list of knee-slappers.
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    • Author by donzostevens1082 (September 30, 2010 10:17 am ET)
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      "Who's going to fall in love with the Ten Commandments?"

      Typical right-wing Christian comment. He equates the "precepts of Christianity" with Old Testament laws and not the teachings of Jesus - love and forgiveness. They do love that Old Testament God and his proscriptions against the things they hate (gays) while ignoring those against the things they love (shellfish).
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      • Author by historygeek001 (September 30, 2010 1:18 pm ET)
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        But they pick and choose from both the NT and OT. For example: they have no problem with divorce, which the Bible forbids. They don't mind working on the Sabbath--which the OT clearly states is Saturday (bye-bye NASCAR). They don't mind permantly marking the flesh with tattoos. The Bible does NOT say that life begins at conception; it says that life begins at birth. They use Christianity to justify their beliefs rather than Christianity shaping their beliefs.
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    • Author by bintx (September 30, 2010 10:39 am ET)
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      First, it makes no difference if he is or isn't Christian, which he is.

      Second, apparently Morris and the good priest aren't Baptists or members of the church of Christ. What Obama described is EXACTLY what we believe (I've been a member of both) and we're pretty darned average.
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    • Author by Jen7 (September 30, 2010 11:26 am ET)
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      So, saying you became a Christian because of Christ's love and charity is not how the average Christian in the US would answer that question??

      You just insulted Christians, dude. Wow.
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    • Author by E.Hatt-Swank (September 30, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
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      These people are really un-freaking-believable. No organization with even vague thoughts of aspiring to the status of a legitimate news operation would run this nonsense. But this is the kind of crap they think is worthy of airtime. Amazing.
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    • Author by DellDolly (September 30, 2010 1:02 pm ET)
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      Call me crazy, but I think that someone who becomes a Christian via an adult choice, rather than having been indoctrinated their whole lives to be a Christian, is more likely to be the real deal.

      Someone who simply goes through the motions because it's what they've always done? Not so much.

      Of course I'm not saying that there are no sincere Christians who were raised in the church - just saying that choosing Christianity as an adult is almost ALWAYS going to be a good indicator of one's actual belief in the faith!
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      • Author by riverdog (September 30, 2010 3:50 pm ET)
           
        Dell 'Call me crazy, but I think that someone who becomes a Christian via an adult choice, rather than having been indoctrinated their whole lives to be a Christian, is more likely to be the real deal".

        i agree. of course beck skews the therory a bit, deciding to be morman later in life.
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