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What about Mara Liasson?

October 21, 2010 10:31 am ET by Eric Boehlert

News that Juan Williams' contract with NPR was terminated over comments he made about Muslims while appearing on Fox News shines a spotlight on the radio network's evergreen controversy: Its continued affiliation with Fox News. Specifically, NPR's Mara Liasson and her long-running association with Fox News has often raised questions.  This might be the proper time for NPR to finally address that thorny issue. 

I'm not suggesting Liasson has said anything as offensive as Williams, or that she has that kind of track record while appearing on Fox. I'm just saying that if you look at NPR's code of ethics, there's simply no way Liasson should be making appearances on Fox. 

Here's why [emphasis added]: 

9. NPR journalists must get permission from the Vice President for their Division or their designee to appear on TV or other media. It is not necessary to get permission in each instance when the employee is a regular participant on an approved show. Permission for such appearances may be revoked if NPR determines such appearances are harmful to the reputation of NPR or the NPR participant.

10. In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than rather than fact-based analysis.

Also, the NPR ethics code, written "to protect the credibility of NPR's programming by ensuring high standards of honesty, integrity, impartiality and staff conduct," forbids NPR journalists from participating in appearances that "may appear to endorse the agenda of a group or organization."

Is there any independent viewer still watching Fox News today who thinks it does not endorse a political agenda? I mean, c'mon. 

Last year, NPR executives reportedly approached Liasson about her continued appearance on Fox News and asked her to reconsider. But she balked at the request, claiming she appeared on Fox's serious news shows, so her affiliation was not a problem. 

As I noted last year, her rationale just doesn't work: 

Liasson is part of the Fox News family. Period. For instance, Liasson appears on the Fox News website as a "Fox News contributor," not as "Fox News contributor to the sorta/kinda serious shows." The only way she'd really be able to defend her continued alliance would be to argue that Fox News in its entirely (i.e. Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity) is a serious endeavor worthy of NPR's status. But if Liasson can't defend all of Fox News, then her half-pregnant approach (i.e. she's only employed by a tiny portion of Fox News) just doesn't fly.  

Here's an easier way to look at NPR's Fox News dilemma: What if the august news outlet currently did not have an affiliation with Fox News but executives there, busy overseeing Beck's hate campaign as well as the channel's open campaigning for Republicans this fall, came courting and wanted to sign Liasson up as a contributor? Would NPR look at Fox News' programming today and decide it would help NPR's reputation to be associated with that? 

Of course not. 

So why does NPR continue an association that harms its reputation and runs counter to its own code of ethics? 

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    • Author by Major Tom (October 21, 2010 10:39 am ET)
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      Liasson has her head in the sand if she thinks Fox's association, and subsidizing of Glenn Beck has nothing to do with her. She is kidding herself that Fox has serious news programs, and she is disingenuous to suggest that she hasn't seen blatant punditry masquerading as factual information on Bret Bair's program. All I have to say is Charles Krauthammer.
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      • Author by mk3872 (October 21, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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        She's not kidding herself. She knows Fox is a farce. Liasson is simply protecting her income stream from Fox News. NPR, it should be noted, does not pay very well ...
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        • Author by Major Tom (October 21, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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          People like Liasson provide cover for the more fringe elements that are represented at Fox 'news.' They allow for the extremists to peddle their conspiracies right along side more factual information. By Liasson being on Fox, and not challenging their Right Wing propaganda, she allows for false equivalences to be made between competing beliefs. She legitimizes blatant lies, and apologizes for hate speech, through her regular, tacit aproval of the network's talking points. And I stand by my Charles Krauthammer remark. Whatever of a journalist he may, at one time, have been- He is a shill for the GOP and Fox now, and for quite some time.
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    • Author by Bill of Orlando (October 21, 2010 11:31 am ET)
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      What a bunch of BS! Juan's comments were not 'offensive'. They reflect how most air travelers with any awareness at all react in the same situations. This goofy political correctness stuff has to stop. By the way, 5 will get you 10 that Juan joins Fox News.
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      • Author by HughG (October 21, 2010 2:01 pm ET)
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        Juan has already "joined" Fox News. That's not a hard bet to make.

        To judge whether or not Williams' comments were offensive, replace the word, "Muslim," with "Jewish" or "Black." In IMHO, nobody would stand for someone's saying similar things about many other ethnic groups--so it's not okay to denigrate Moslems in that way.
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        • Author by Dyak (October 21, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
             
          Typical liberal BS.
          "Muslim" is not an ethnicity. "Muslim" is an adherent of a religio-political ideology.

          Idiots
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        • Author by Sands2 (October 21, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
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          "To judge whether or not Williams' comments were offensive, replace the word, "Muslim," with "Jewish" or "Black."

          Muslim is not a race.

          It's a group or organization.

          A better example would be to replace Muslim with other contemporary dangerous groups such as Hells Angels or MS-13.

          To be fair, we could use Christian Knights. But Hollywood has recast them as fairy tale dragon slayers and they have lost their violent image.

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        • Author by jdinsb (October 22, 2010 4:19 am ET)
             
          “There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life,” Jesse Jackson said several years ago, “than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery—and then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved.”- Jesse Jackson

          I hate that bigot and KKK member Jesse Jackson.
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          • Author by Johaely (October 22, 2010 9:04 pm ET)
               
            The quote waas about Jackson's dissapointment with the black community and their stage in life where poverty, and by default crime are rampant. There is more to racism than words, something race-baiters like you and Limbaugh will never understand.

            Yeah we all know you hated him long ago. Can't have a Black man actually be vocal about being a victim or perceiving racism.
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        • Author by TerryO (October 22, 2010 9:59 am ET)
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          OMG will you grow up!! When was the last time a Black or a Jew flew a damn plane into a building?? His fear exists whether Pollyannas like you like it or not. How stupid can you really be??
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          • Author by peace4all (October 22, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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            i don't know how stupid we can be but i see how stupid you can be. LOOK at the video of the 9-11 hijackers before they got on the plane. they were dressed in a suit and tie, clean shaven and nice haircut. so i guess freaking out about someone dressed in Muslim garb, whatever that means, is pretty dam stupid.
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            • Author by remarkl (October 24, 2010 10:15 am ET)
                 
              Now that we "know" how Islamist hijackers dress, why wouldn't they dress traditionally next time? Willams's point was that we should not ACT on the fears he expressed, and I imagine many folks in traditional Muslim garb in fact receive no more scrutiny than anyone else.

              Anyway, Williams never claimed that his fears comported with the actual level of risk, just that they reflect a natural association of the sort we instinctively make.
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        • Author by ebby47 (October 22, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
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          I don't see how anyone's admission of their personal fears about something ought to be characterized as an denigrating statement, especially as the conversation he was having with O'Reilly was supportive of Muslims. The sentence which caused the uproar was taken out of context and Williams has often advocated tolerance of Muslims, as he was doing on the O'Reilly show Monday evening.
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          • Author by christopher howard (October 22, 2010 1:40 pm ET)
               
            " They reflect how most air travelers with any awareness at all react in the same situations. This goofy political correctness stuff has to stop. By the way, 5 will get you 10 that Juan joins Fox News."

            Juan has been working with Fox for many years. It was his work with Fox that got him fired. How "aware" are you?
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        • Author by Norma (October 23, 2010 1:52 pm ET)
             
          Well, well, well. So we should substitute the world "black" like our President did when he referred to his WHITE grandmother crossing the street when seeing a black person approach from the opposite direction!!! I didn't hear anyone make any comments about HIS statement which denigrates whites!!!

          I guess political correctness only applies when the liberal left is offended!!! GET OVER IT!!!
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      • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
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        keep defending bigotry. people like you are why the kkk still exists
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        • Author by keetonmm (October 22, 2010 3:22 pm ET)
             
          Free speech is why the KKK still exists. Bigots are free to express themselves, just like everyone else, whether there are people who would defend them or not. Wise up.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (October 22, 2010 8:15 am ET)
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        Williams' comments were clearly bigoted. If somebody says that when they see Black people walking behind them they get nervous, that's bigotry. The same thing here.

        Case closed.

        So it's just astounding how all these MSM people-- ALL of them, seemingly-- are going out of their way to DEFEND the guy today !

        Doesn't that tell us as much about them as it does about him....?
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        • Author by danomano (October 22, 2010 8:26 am ET)
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          You mean like Obama's bigoted statement relating how his white grandma was afaid of black men. Or how the Boston cop who acted stupidly.

          It is political correctness run amuck.

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          • Author by Johaely (October 22, 2010 9:12 pm ET)
               
            No. Please you tell me what is racist about Obama telling about how his white grandmother from Kansas during the 60s and 70s feared black people or how saying the cops acted stupidly (without any mention of race whatsoever) is racist.
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        • Author by AG1 (October 22, 2010 8:45 am ET)
             
          Case is not closed. About 15-20 years ago Jesse Jackson said if he was walking down the street at night and heard footsteps behind him, he was relieved to see somebody white when he turned around. By your logic, Jesse Jackson is bigoted against his own race.
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        • Author by gryphon (October 22, 2010 11:40 am ET)
             
          "If somebody says that when they see Black people walking behind them they get nervous, that's bigotry."

          LOL. I think that flew over some people's heads here.
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        • Author by ebby47 (October 22, 2010 11:57 am ET)
             
          So when Jesse Jackson said that if someone were walking behind him in the dark he'd be more nervous if were a black man than a white man, he was a bigot?
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    • Author by Bill of Orlando (October 21, 2010 11:32 am ET)
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      What a bunch of BS! Juan's comments were not 'offensive'. They reflect how most air travelers with any awareness at all react in the same situations. This goofy political correctness stuff has to stop. By the way, 5 will get you 10 that Juan joins Fox News.
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    • Author by tcjdw (October 21, 2010 11:46 am ET)
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      What about Nina Totenberg? She regularly engages in punditry and speculation ("They should not participate in shows, electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than rather than fact-based analysis")on Inside Washington. She also appears on the left-wing "Rachel Maddow Show". I guess her hateful remark about Jesse Helms & his grandchildren getting AIDS doesn't count since it was about an evil conservative.
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      • Author by magnolialover (October 21, 2010 1:07 pm ET)
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        Totenberg should be held accountable to the same standard as Williams.

        I see you've been reading Newsbusters today which is where you heard about the 15 year old Helms reference.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 5:30 pm ET)
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        i will agree wit you to a point. what she said about his grandkids was wrong. but jesse helms himmself deserved the insults because of his actions. he was a racist, he was homophobic and did everything possible to fight AGAINST the civil rights act.
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    • Author by David2012 (October 21, 2010 11:55 am ET)
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      She's a sellout to Murdoch/Ailes dollars, pure and simple. NPR must fire her.
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      • Author by technologist (October 21, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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        "She's a witch! Burn her!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
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    • Author by txthinker (October 21, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
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      Last year, NPR executives reportedly approached Liasson about her continued appearance on Fox News and asked her to reconsider. But she balked at the request, claiming she appeared on Fox's serious news shows, so her affiliation was not a problem.
      There's no such thing as a "serious news show" on Faux News, so Mara Liason needs to choose - NPR or Faux.
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      • Author by Major Tom (October 21, 2010 12:23 pm ET)
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        Not to mention if she was approached, then someone obviously had a problem with her affiliation/appearences.
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    • Author by stoneypat (October 21, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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      How about Juan William's comments? I have listened to them and they are not offensive and they are factual. Why is this a fireing offense?
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      • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 2:02 pm ET)
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        ummm how about the fact that he broadbrushed all muslims.

        oh wait you said you have no problem with that so obviously you must believe like brian killmeade does that all terrorists are muslims right?

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        • Author by Vailbeach (October 21, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
             
          Did you read ALL of what Williams said? To equate his comments with Kilmeade's is simply, factually wrong. In context, Williams was saying exactly what most people who read this site would say -- that you can't paint Muslims with a broad brush. He was using his discomfort with seeing Muslims ON A PLANE to illustrate the emotions that might be animating the broad-brush assumptions, which he said clearly were dangerous and wrong.
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (October 22, 2010 8:18 am ET)
           
        Substitute African-American for "Muslim" in his statement and you'll see why it's bigotry. It's a generalization-- a stereotype.
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    • Author by bmmg394458 (October 21, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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      So much for NPR's commitment to being a "centrist voice" in the wilderness. With the dismissal of Juan Williams -- who lent credence to NPR, not the other way around -- and the harassing of Mara Liasson, National Public Radio has done great harm to its image. I believe the donation I made to my local NPR affiliate (WHYY) will be my last.
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      • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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        yes defend the man who made a bigoted blanket statement about muslims thats the way go by all means. spread your ignorance. please. continue to expose yourself as a bigoted troll and defend clowns like this
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    • Author by JGalt (October 21, 2010 2:27 pm ET)
         
      You have to be kidding. Anyone who disagrees is to be executed is the message. Anyone who even appears publicly to disagree will be executed. All must adhere to the raised-arm "heil" and goose-step when ordered. Any dissenters will be executed.

      Good luck.
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    • Author by Marion Morrison (October 21, 2010 2:28 pm ET)
         
      NPR had to shutdown their contact page because the had too many hits. Fact is, they're holding a pledge drive this month, and many people are now cancelling their donation.
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    • Author by VDennis (October 21, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
         
      And who says NPR itself doesn't endorse the agenda of a group or organization i.e. the liberal agenda.

      There's an old saying that's certainly true here " a camel never sees it's own hump".
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    • Author by qwerty (October 21, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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      The Corporation for Public Broadcasting should be careful to control the publicity of their Fox proxy war disguised as the Williams/Liasson witch hunt -- many Americans don't realize that their tax dollars are going to fund a private media corporation with extremist liberal viewpoints.

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      • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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        yeah npr is real liberal because they fired a jackass moron who made bigoted remarks. nice job of showing your own bigotry btw
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        • Author by qwerty (October 21, 2010 3:47 pm ET)
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          I said extremist liberal...for example, a useful idiot facilitating Islamist Imperialism by subverting free speech through political correctness, comrade.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
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            ok so i can go ahead and say all fat white guys are redneck racists.....same thing.....
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          • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 4:48 pm ET)
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            hmmmmm yeah you don't know what you're talking about by the way. there is no free speech violation here because the government didn't make any laws taking away williams right to speak. he just ran his mouth and got fired for it and rightly so.

            your ignorance will do more to spread your islamist imperialism because you have NO CLUE about what the first amendment says.

            you are the same villiage idiot who screamed when st carrie of prejean lost her crown for opening her mouth and said her rights were violated.....when they wern't!
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            • Author by qwerty (October 21, 2010 6:19 pm ET)
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              Ouch! Looks like you got your carbon-neutral undies in a bunch, comrade.
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              • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 6:31 pm ET)
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                thats the best you got?

                ok so another troll who can't respond other than use 4th grade taunts. really upping the level of discourse.
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                • Author by qwerty (October 21, 2010 6:36 pm ET)
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                  "...all fat white guys are redneck racists..."

                  Looks like you forgot to raise the "level of discourse" bar off the ground, comrade.
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                  • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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                    nice try but i was making a comparison.

                    i would be a touch hypocritical to say that considering that i myself am white, and am overweight. and of course you purposely ignored the meaning i was getting at but you must because you seem to be unable to see things other than your own simple myopic view where everyone who disagrees with you is a communist.

                    ive seen posts above that do this well......

                    take what williams said and replace muslims with either, whites, jews, or blacks. guess what.....thats offensive and bigoted no matter what the color of skin or religious choice.

                    so try again if you like. it doesn't change the fact that your defending a bigoted statement. with 4th grade logic and insults
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                    • Author by Judge 5.56 (October 21, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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                      Hey Jediknight65 (seriously "Jedi Knight", seriously? And 65, what are you like 45 years old),

                      Think it is about time you put down the bong and the cheetos and craw out of your mother's basement. Since Obama can't seem to figure out how to create jobs, maybe you can find a star trek convention or a comicon to attend? I'm sure you can impress the 15 year old girls dressed up like manga with your proficiency in speaking wookie; that and your mastery of "the force" (and a 6 pack or two of Bud) may even get one of them to go to bed with you. Of course I am sure that is what you said all the other times, but hey, maybe this time you will get lucky.

                      Of course you could also try growing up and getting a life!
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                    • Author by Judge 5.56 (October 21, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
                         
                      Hey Jediknight65 (seriously "Jedi Knight", seriously? And 65, what are you like 45 years old),

                      Think it is about time you put down the bong and the cheetos and craw out of your mother's basement. Since Obama can't seem to figure out how to create jobs, maybe you can find a star trek convention or a comicon to attend? I'm sure you can impress the 15 year old girls dressed up like manga with your proficiency in speaking wookie; that and your mastery of "the force" (and a 6 pack or two of Bud) may even get one of them to go to bed with you. Of course I am sure that is what you said all the other times, but hey, maybe this time you will get lucky.

                      Of course you could also try growing up and getting a life!
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                      • Author by christopher howard (October 22, 2010 1:43 pm ET)
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                        "Hey Jediknight65 (seriously "Jedi Knight", seriously? And 65, what are you like 45 years old)?"

                        This coming from a guy named Judge 5.56?

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              • Author by mattcable250650 (October 21, 2010 9:05 pm ET)
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                Uh, qwerty, you're defending a completely idiotic and bigoted statement. Yeah, people get a bit annoyed at seeing that and hey, sorry if we allow our annoyance to show. But seriously, how on Earth is Williams' statement not that of a complete bigot?
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          • Author by JohnJay60 (October 21, 2010 11:13 pm ET)
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            You've totally lost me here. In what way is Islamist Imperialistic hate speech considered 'politically correct'? Just because you may dislike Islamic Imperialists and "political correctness" (whatever that means) does not require that Logic bend to your proposition that the two are therefore identical. You should have paid attention in high school when logic was being discussed.
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        • Author by riverdog (October 21, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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          heard a KGO (sanfrancisco) talk show hostess say she was afraid to walk at night in the poor neiborhoods so she baught a handgun she wasn't fired so thats ok? juan isn't a bigot and yes NPR can fire whomever they want as long as it doesn't violate state employment codes.
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          • Author by jediknight65 (October 21, 2010 4:45 pm ET)
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            so its ok to sterotype according to you? ok. it is bigotry and showing your own bigotry as well. nice job. and ya know what. that radio hostess showed hers too. because you all broad brushed every single person. your in a poor neighborhood you will get robbed. you get on an airplane and you see someone who is wearing middle eastern clothing....get nervous because they are terrorists.




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            • Author by rockn49er (October 22, 2010 1:49 pm ET)
                 
              Juan Williams honestly expressed his reaction towards moslems who wear Muslim garbs in the context of 9/11. And in your communistic view, he is a bigot because he said it. What if he did not say it out loud like the 99 percent of us, of course that includes you Mr. white-overweight-redneck, is he not a bigot then? C'mon comrade, just say it straight. What we really want is to control what these lemmings think. Vanish those negative thoughts when a white overweight redneck approaches the seat next to you in an airplane. Vanish those negative thoughts of raising your guard when a homeless person approaches you sitting in your car at the intersection with windows down. Vanish your fear when a latino kid with undie tops showing armfull tattoos sits next to you in the bus. Censor all those. Korea, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, Venezuela, China and others do or did it. Go prance around with your head up cloud 9 closing your eyes with fingers on both your ears and try to convince yourself that everything is just well and great in this world. Nah, been there than that. No more political correctness. Freedom of Speech is precious. Go to another planet gdiknight65 and practice your mind control over the amoebas that may just started living there. And while your at it, send your response to Judge 5.56. Shed some tears laughing with him at you. Made my day.
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          • Author by DellDolly (October 21, 2010 7:44 pm ET)
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            Dishonest post by a weasel poster, yet again. I believe that's all you're capable of.

            She's concerned about the BEHAVIOR of people in a particular neighborhood.

            That's NOT the same as being worried about someone because of the religion they were born into!

            Worrying about someone because of their race, or their sex, or the color of their skin, or their religion is BIGOTED BEHAVIOR.

            And it's okay to judge someone based upon their BEHAVIOR.

            This is NOT rocket science!
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        • Author by riverdog (October 21, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
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          heard a KGO (sanfrancisco) talk show hostess say she was afraid to walk at night in the poor neiborhoods so she baught a handgun she wasn't fired so thats ok? juan isn't a bigot and yes NPR can fire whomever they want as long as it doesn't violate state employment codes.
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        • Author by riverdog (October 21, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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          heard a KGO (sanfrancisco) talk show hostess say she was afraid to walk at night in the poor neiborhoods so she baught a handgun she wasn't fired so thats ok? juan isn't a bigot and yes NPR can fire whomever they want as long as it doesn't violate state employment codes.
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          • Author by carlileb5935 (October 22, 2010 8:21 am ET)
               
            It's OK as along as she does not reference ethnicity or attribute it to race.

            Poor neighborhoods can be dangerous regardless of who lives there.
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      • Author by Major Tom (October 21, 2010 3:59 pm ET)
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        "There’s a misperception about federal funding and public radio. There’s the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. They receive $90 million a year and a vast majority goes to member public radio stations. Those stations pull in more than $1 billion collectively a year. It’s significant and important but not even close to the lion’s share of revenues for public radio. NPR gets no allocation from CPB. Zero. We are a private 501(c)3"

        NPR'S CEO Vivian Schiller
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        • Author by VET76 (October 21, 2010 8:53 pm ET)
             
          You need to go back,read your IRS EXEMPTION REQUIREMENTS for your 501 and review how you are serving (illegally in my opinion) some of your contributors. Specially dem der MILLION dollar contributors.
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        • Author by hughjass7955 (October 21, 2010 9:33 pm ET)
             
          So NPR shouldn't mind if all their public funding dries up completely. Maybe Georgie-boy Soros can pick up the slack...
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    • Author by big fan (October 21, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
         
      NPR gets a $1,800.000 donation from George Soros...NPR fires Juan Williams...Media Matters gets a $1,000,000...today Media Matters runs a hit piece on Mara Liasson calling for NPR to fire Ms Liasson...today America knows what the price of free speech is at progressive/liberal media outlets!
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    • Author by Frogman01 (October 21, 2010 7:55 pm ET)
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      I there any chance that Media Matters will do any serious iquiries into any issues not related to Fox News or is the sole purpose of the site to attack only conservative points of view. Apparently the lack of equity in viewpoints on Fox News is only exceeded by this site and MSNBC. The bias shown on the site and complained about elsewhere is puzzling. You are doing exactly what you protest about.
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      • Author by okiepoli (October 22, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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        Media Matters: "...progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation..."

        Fox News: "...fair and balanced..."

        Which organization behaves more closely with what they state?
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    • Author by karlcol (October 21, 2010 8:29 pm ET)
         
      10. In appearing on TV or other media including electronic Web-based forums, NPR journalists should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than rather than fact-based analysis.

      Really? Well, if that's the case then buh-bye, Nina Totenburg:



      On Jesse Helms: “I think he ought to be worried about what’s going on in the Good Lord’s mind, because if there is retributive justice, he’ll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”

      On Sam Alito: “I think that’s right. You know, they picked a woman, probably a nice woman, a woman you might hire if you were in a corporation but who had no constitutional law experience whatsoever and did things in successive weeks that each time made her look less and less qualified. And then, of course when she gets dinged, then we go back, as Ruth Marcus said, to some white guy.”


      On the Bush administration: “People in administrations make short-term decisions, and I think the one to sort of go on the offensive publicly against Fox was not too bright. Now, the Bush White House did that, it just cut people dead, it froze them out, you know it froze whole institutions out, didn’t talk about it. It was much more like the Mob. When you talk about it, you diminish your influence.”

      On the Tea Parties: “Well, you know, I don’t know whether this really has any legs are not. You have to remember that at almost any given time any cockamamie proposition in America will have at least 25 percent of those polled supporting it. It was a good stunt. Whether the stunt really is more than a stunt remains to be seen. Obviously there are people who don’t like paying taxes, among them, probably some people at this table and certainly a certain individual whom I share a bed with doesn’t like paying taxes at all.”

      On the Bush tax cuts: “Well, there are some relatively minor tax cuts and fixes in the first part of the week and then came the big benefit for investors in capital gains and all of that. Now, you know, I would benefit from that. Probably everybody here would benefit from that, but I just think it’s immoral to do that, not to mention fiscally irresponsible, when you’re cutting people who have nothing — from children off of Medicaid and mothers who depend on childcare losing the childcare and can’t work. And then what do they do? Go back on welfare? I mean, it is, it’s, I just think it’s immoral.
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    • Author by Redzone (October 21, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
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      Vivian Schiller has The NY Times self righteous attitude and should have stayed there. Not right for NPR. What a dumb way to handle the Juan William's comments, which reflect most flyers feelings. Boycott NPR!
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    • Author by BS (October 21, 2010 10:51 pm ET)
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      What is this? A witch hunt? I went to J-school, and if I had an opportunity to take a job, I'd take it. I would uphold my standards and ethics, and take the pay check. Who wouldn't? This is bogus. You don't lose your right to speak when you take a job, IF it's a legit organization. I'm stunned to learn NPR has this "agreement." I listen every day, and while it was a little left-leaning at times, I considered NPR to be fairly middle of the road. Was I wrong? Williams wasn't even commenting on NPR, so I guess he has no free speech. If that's not ironic, I don't know what is. A liberal-leaning black man is canned for words that IN CONTEXT are clearly mot meant to be offensive, nor are they offensive to most people, hence the push back on NPR. From liberals, no less. This was a mistake, plain and simple. Leave Liasson alone. Sounds to me like a campaign of "guilt by association" on the part of liberals, who are supposed to be so "open minded" -- oh unless somebody hangs out with Fox News. Big deal. We do have brains, you know. Audiences know what they are getting. NPR screwed up. They will lose reputation, money, maybe tax money (which is a bit on the undemocratic side anyway), and now good journalists. Shame on them. Shame on you.
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    • Author by SWFLA (October 21, 2010 10:59 pm ET)
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      Can anyone here say "First Amendment"? Code of Ethics #10 sure doesn't sound like it protects the freedom of speech for employees of a company that recieves a subsidy from U.S. taxpayers to stay on the air. Let NPR compete in the free market system and see how long it lasts.
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    • Author by MAD (October 21, 2010 11:31 pm ET)
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      So George Soros makes a $1M donation this week to Media Matters with the expressed purpose of targeting the right wing rhetoric coming out of Fox. George Soros also makes a $1.8M donation this past week to NPR. Shortly after Juan Williams is fired from NPR contending that it is really because of relationship with Fox and not anything he said on the O'Reilly show. Now Media Matters is questioning whether Mara Liasson should be the next to get the ax. Hmmmmmm. Sure does look like Media Matters is doing Soros' bidding.
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    • Author by orly13 (October 22, 2010 3:31 am ET)
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      Is there any independent listener still listening to NPR today who thinks it does not endorse a political agenda? I mean, c'mon.

      NPR and Fox News are exactly the same thing. Propaganda machines.
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    • Author by orly13 (October 22, 2010 3:52 am ET)
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      Is there any independent listener still listening to NPR today who thinks it does not endorse a political agenda? I mean, c'mon.

      NPR and Fox News are exactly the same thing. Propaganda machines.
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    • Author by TerryO (October 22, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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      You people live in a dream world. All this talk of "hate campaigns" and NPR'S "august reputation" is simply laughable. If I want to experience true hatred and ignorance all I need do is to read sites such as this one. NPR is a hard left gaggle. Let's be honest. As long as the hatred is aimed at conservatives or Christians then it is perfectly OK with you. You are like children who can't stand to hear anything that conflicts with your sick and twisted viewpoints. How pathetic all of you are.
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    • Author by yelirt5 (October 22, 2010 11:38 am ET)
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      I've already written both my Congressional Reps demanding that they de-fund NPR. It's time tax payer dollars were no longer wasted on this liberal drivel. Obviously, journalism is no longer practiced over there and its slant has been fully bought and paid for by George (I hate America) Soros.
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      • Author by boulderhippy (October 22, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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        It is not liberal drivel. Fox has effectively infiltrated NPR. We can no longer tolerate NPR employees having independent thought.
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    • Author by Getalife (October 22, 2010 4:37 pm ET)
         
      NPR(National Propaganda Radio) fired Williams, who's no conservative, for his connection to Fox, not his comments. The leftist media, including NPR, claim to be a big proponent in the exchange of ideas and diversity of opinion, when in fact they're the worst offenders of censorship and close-mindedness. Time to cut the last remaining purse strings of taxpayer money to NPR. Then they'll be free to bash conservatives to their hearts' content.
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    • Author by RickT (October 22, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
         
      The arrogance of NPR, its devotees, and the editorial above is appalling and wrong. The presumption is that only NPR is legitimate, that Fox News is not, and based on YOUR skewed viewpoint there's only one possible way of seeing this issue. That's intellectually dishonest. Shame on you and your arrogance. No more than MSNBC or CNBC pushes a political agenda does Fox engage in their "brand" of journalism. You folks just don't like their brand so you attack it, proclaim it illegitimate, and do everything to marginalize and destroy it. THAT is wrong. I'm amazed at how really stupid the self-proclaimed geniuses are about this fundamental issue.
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    • Author by remarkl (October 23, 2010 1:55 pm ET)
         
      The only thing I watch on Fox News is Fox News Sunday, where I have always thought of Liasson and Williams as engaging in "punditry." Lawyers know that statutes often absorb meaning from their implementation. Obviously, what Williams and Liasson do on Sunday morning is not "punditry" as that term is used in NPR's Code, because, if it were, they wouldn't have been allowed to take those gigs. But since what they do is "punditry" by any objective interpretation of the word, that provision of the Code becomes jibberish.

      NPR has really tried to have it both ways - using Fox News essentially to provide free advertising for two of NPR's best voices while retaining the apparent basis for pulling the plug on them via the Code that NPR has clearly ignored in allowing them to work at Fox in the first place.

      It seems pretty clear to me that NPR's "correct" response to discomfort with Williams's or Liasson's appearances on Fox would have been to invoke the code and deny them permission to appear there in the future, to make them choose between NPR bland and Fox News spice. I have no problem with NPR insisting on anything it can negotiate. But my suspicion is that NPR could not negotiate the kind of behavior it wishes, and so must use the nuclear option when someone goes too far from the reservation in their eyes.
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