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Surprise! Pat Buchanan Reads VDARE

December 28, 2010 11:21 am ET by Jamison Foser

I know, there's something of a dog-bites-man quality to learning that Pat Buchanan reads a rabidly anti-immigrant website. But Buchanan continues to enjoy the favor (or at least acceptance) of a not-insignificant portion of the media elite, so the fact that he apparently browses a white nationalist site for column ideas is worth noting.

Here's a portion of Buchanan's latest column:

Among the OECD members, the most developed 34 nations on earth, Mexico, principal feeder nation for U.S. schools, came in dead last in reading.

Steve Sailer of VDARE.com got the full list of 65 nations, broke down U.S. reading scores by race, then measured Americans with the countries and continents whence their families originated. What he found was surprising.

Asian-Americans outperform all Asian students except for Shanghai-Chinese. White Americans outperform students from all 37 predominantly white nations except Finns, and U.S. Hispanics outperformed the students of all eight Latin American countries that participated in the tests.

African-American kids would have outscored the students of any sub-Saharan African country that took the test (none did) and did outperform the only black country to participate, Trinidad and Tobago, by 25 points.

America's public schools, then, are not abject failures.

They are educating immigrants and their descendants to outperform the kinfolk their parents or ancestors left behind when they came to America.

Steve Sailer has been an advocate of the Pioneer Fund, which has been designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its support for white supremacists. Sailer has written that African Americans "tend to possess poorer native judgment than members of better-educated groups. Thus they need stricter moral guidance from society," a passage conservative columnist John Podhoretz aptly described as "shockingly racist." VDARE is an anti-immigrant website that publishes what its editor describes as "white nationalist" works, and is also identified as a hate group by SPLC.

That's who Pat Buchanan turns to for inspiration: an author of "shockingly racist" screeds for a white nationalist website. But, hey: Big day for Steve Sailer, right? For a VDARE columnist, getting cited by Pat Buchanan must be like an aspiring writer finding out that Tom Wolfe is a fan.

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    • Author by nerzog (December 28, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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      Okay, fair enough. But, for me, the bigger story is that Pat Buchanan, who is no Liberal Apologist, admits that "America's public schools, then, are not abject failures."

      This admission, coming from a Troglodyte like Pat, is quite profound. One of the cornerstones of the modern conservative "movement" has been that dismantling the Public Education system is necessary to save the Republic.
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      • Author by heidster (December 28, 2010 11:51 am ET)
           
        exactly what I noted as the "big story," nerzog. It seems the schools are whatever suits one's current argument.. wonder how many instances of him saying the opposite could be found when it makes a different point for him...
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      • Author by didi (December 29, 2010 12:53 pm ET)
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        Wake me up when Patty (refudiates) all those right wing wackos who keep whining about the public school system.
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    • Author by curiousindependent (December 28, 2010 12:13 pm ET)
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      America's public schools, then, are not abject failures
      Of course. Because reading is the only important thing. Did they test science and math scores? How about civics or critical thinking? How did Americans do on those?
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (December 28, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
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        How can Sailer break down reading scores by race?

        Are they all taking the same test? Does Sailer know what he's talking about?
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        • Author by thaneb (December 28, 2010 6:50 pm ET)
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          From How PISA 2009 was conducted (link below): "15-year-olds collected from nationally representative samples of students in participating countries"
          As I interpret that, it's not race, per se, but a breakdown by (probably self-professed) nationality within each sample country group. Sailer is apparently conflating this with race.
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          • Author by thaneb (December 29, 2010 7:02 pm ET)
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            Another worthless, uninterpretable, thumbs down from an equally worthless coward.
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            • Author by jediknight65 (December 29, 2010 8:28 pm ET)
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              did you expect the racists defenders of the racist right to actually stand up and expose themselves and reveal themselves......wise up lol
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      • Author by grmce (December 28, 2010 10:11 pm ET)
           
        Of course. Because reading is the only important thing. Did they test science and math scores? How about civics or critical thinking? How did Americans do on those?
        How about geography? We "Austrians" think it's hilarious.
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      • Author by doggeddem (December 29, 2010 2:56 pm ET)
           
        I suppose you also agree with Pat that all those Jews in Europe died of carbon monoxide poisoning because of their proximity to deisel engines.
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    • Author by buzzoven (December 28, 2010 12:16 pm ET)
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      It's a shame racism is now seemingly a commonplace thing on the right. I think it won't be long until such studies as this start another push towards eugenics. By that poll, an ignorant person would infer that white kids are obviously smarter than any minority and American exceptionalism is a proven fact. With the depictions of Obama and Soros in the media, it's really just a matter of time before someone gets on hate radio or fox talking about how WASPs are the master race again.
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      • Author by nerzog (December 28, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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        Blimpy Limbaugh and his imitators have been working feverishly toward making bigotry fashionable again for twenty years. Archie Bunker, instead of the buffoon he was created to be, has become a Republican Role Model.
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      • Author by m.welker (December 28, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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        "It's a shame racism is now seemingly a commonplace thing on the right."

        Now? As opposed to when? I don't recall a time when racism wasn't commonplace.
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        • Author by buzzoven (December 28, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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          Ten years ago they at least tried to hide it behind some kind of political principle, even as flawed as that principle might have been. Now they are just openly saying these things and not being challenged so it is infiltrating back into mainstream society. I'm really waiting for them to just openly and repeatedly say ni-doubleg-er as a commonplace term on fox and friends.
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        • Author by donwelty (December 28, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
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          Actually, people have been "racist" forever. Everyone has a tendency to be more comfortable with people who look and act like them. When somebody looks or acts different, we tend to view them as strange and in some cases "inferior." When preferences become institutionalized, we have a problem. When preferences turn into scapegoating, we have a problem. When preferences are set aside with a willingness to explore differences, we have new ways of looking at problems and solutions. When preferences bring about circuitous, illogical, biblical arguments against blacks, gays in the military, or anything that's different we have the far right wing--and that's a problem.
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          • Author by steeve (December 28, 2010 6:13 pm ET)
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            "we tend to view them as strange and in some cases 'inferior.'"

            It's so much easier for me. Everybody, regardless of race or any other factor, is inferior.
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            • Author by ScienceBuff (December 28, 2010 6:27 pm ET)
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              [http://www.superior-auto.com/images/Superior%20Man%20-%20STOP.jpg]
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              • Author by Panic Man (December 29, 2010 1:45 pm ET)
                   
                Superior Auto! Buy here, pay too friggin' much here.

                Honestly, of all the images you could pick, you pick one for a business that's from my neck of the backwoods?
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          • Author by curiousindependent (December 29, 2010 1:40 am ET)
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            I think the problem lies in the fact that a lot of people insert "racist" when what they really mean is "bigot". Racism is actually understandable at some level. Bigotry is simply wrong on every level.
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            • Author by shaggles (December 29, 2010 11:11 am ET)
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              That's an interesting take. "Racist" is usually seen as more inflammatory than "bigot." I'm not sure I agree that racism is understandable. Xenophobia is a natural instinct but that's not quite the same thing as racism.
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        • Author by grmce (December 28, 2010 10:34 pm ET)
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          m.welker
          "It's a shame racism is now seemingly a commonplace thing on the right."

          Now? As opposed to when? I don't recall a time when racism wasn't commonplace.
          Essentially, racism is an infantile reaction to the "other" or the "unknown" It is a primal reaction of fear to a perception of possible danger. If a person matures into a properly socialised person then he or she will perceive that not all unknowns are dangerous and that there is a lot to be gained from familiarising oneself with what is, at first, unfamiliar. The sad thing is that some people never grow out of the fear of the unfamiliar and that they devote what has developed of their intellect to creating all sorts of fanciful rubbish to justify their fear which has merged into hatred.

          In the U.S. this has been complicated by the lie inherent in the Declaration of Independence which, in order to preserve the institution of slavery, was subverted. All sorts of racist lies were concocted as legal fictions to justify the unjustifiable. Until this National Original Sin i.e. the subverting of the preamble to the founding document of the nation, has been dealt with as a nation the U.S. will have more than just the loopy ravings of immature loudmouths to deal with.
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      • Author by SMTDL (December 30, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
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        If Africans developed a reading test and gave it to students from all of these other countries,how quickly would someone claim cultural bias if the results were not what they wanted to hear!???

        Racism did become more covert for a while but thanks to Paladino,Gingrich,Limbaugh,Beck,Palin,Buchanan,Wilson,Savage,Breitbart,
        Williams,some Tea Party members,etc it is now fashionable to just claim reverse racism so you can get to say whatever you want ..if you are a conservative.Was that Dr Laura that just got a nice,new well- paying gig..When will Tucker Carlson be fired for what he just said....execute Vick but don't dare prosecute Bush and Cheney for causing thousands of human deaths in Iraq??? Two(human) rape charges for Ben Rothlisberger ..no jail time ..no condemnation from Tucker either!!!!
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    • Author by titoista (December 28, 2010 12:21 pm ET)
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      obviously they have ignored the facts in these studies.the u.s. was nowhere near 2nd place in reading,even against "white" countries.overall,western european countries cleaned our clock in reading,as well as everything else.the only thing at which the u.s. excelled,but is not related to education,was confidence,i.e. ego.
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    • Author by beDecent (December 28, 2010 12:50 pm ET)
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      America's public schools ... are educating immigrants and their descendants to outperform the kinfolk their parents or ancestors left behind when they came to America.

      The vast population of America's public, private, and home schools are made up of either immigrants or their descendants. What is the point here: that America's public schools aren't so bad, or that we shouldn't be educating these "immigrants and their descendants" (which, like I said, are the vast majority of us)?
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      • Author by curiousindependent (December 29, 2010 1:42 am ET)
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        I dunno, haven't we pretty much always educated immigrants and descendants of immigrants to outperform the kinfolk left behind? Isn't that kind of the whole idea of America?
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      • Author by shaggles (December 29, 2010 11:14 am ET)
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        I think what he's really saying is U-S-A! U-S-A!
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    • Author by Don Quixote (December 28, 2010 1:09 pm ET)
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      So then, let me get this straight: Buchanan and VDARE believe that our socialized education system is superior to other forms, and they believe that immigration is a wonderful thing for both sending nations and for the U.S. If you read his whole article, Buchanan also - inadvertently I'm sure - makes a strong case for bilingual education. American Exceptionalism... rah, rah!

      This is weird. I wonder if they're aware of their betrayal of their own narratives they've been repeating ad nauseam for decades.
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      • Author by Invent a Scandal (December 28, 2010 1:29 pm ET)
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        I doubt it,
        They've become so used to the corporate media allowing them to wander in and out of the land of hypocrisy, they don't even realize it themselves anymore.
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    • Author by little poncho (December 28, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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      Pops Pat, belongs on fixed news!!!!!!
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    • Author by thaneb (December 28, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
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      Tried to assess the OCED Student Assessment (PISA 2009) to answer some questions brought up here, could only get "unexpected token". Sorry.
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    • Author by JulieT1967 (December 28, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
         
      I have a question...How do you know from which country to place American children's test scores? I am a fourth generation Irish American on my mother's side and on my father's side, I have ancestors that were among the Pilgrims, so just where would you match my children - if I had any?
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    • Author by Nihilist (December 28, 2010 6:04 pm ET)
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      if you want to know how illiterate the hard right is, just try and read vdare.... i know its english, but its in some weird Esperanto speak, like when you hear palin speak, the words are english but you hear it and you still cant figure out what she is saying, and neither does she... refudiate???...
      just shows you what a bunch of buffoons the hard right is, and why they are so obtuse to reality..... pat b. is a laff a minute riot since his days as nixons hit man........
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    • Author by grmce (December 28, 2010 10:07 pm ET)
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      I always find it amusing when I encounter the "Right-Wing Paradox" i.e. "We are the best at (fill in the blank), we are the greatest country on earth etc..." juxtaposed with "We're all going to hell in a handbasket."

      They don't even realise that they've created an impossibility as their perception of "reality"!

      The downside of being confronted by this level of stupidity is that it is impossible to debate people whose concept of the world bears no relationship possibility, let alone reality.
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      • Author by shaggles (December 29, 2010 12:28 pm ET)
           
        I don't see that as a paradox because they usually scapegoat liberalism as the reason we're going to hell in a handbasket. It's like when their laissez-faire policies fail (as they always do.) It's not because of lack of regulation. It's because it wasn't pure enough. There was still a little regulation so the true principals of free market economics could function properly.
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (December 28, 2010 10:40 pm ET)
         
      No surprises about Buchanan. He also has posted columns on Council of Conservative Citizens (formerly White Citizens Council) web site as well.

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but did Sarah Palin support his bid for president a few years ago? Does she share the same view as Buchanan?

      And this woman is thinking of running for President in 2012?
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    • Author by SouthernBeale (December 29, 2010 7:28 am ET)
         
      I went to the Townhall link and noticed he also quoted the controversial author Robert Weissberg and his book "Bad Students, Not Bad Schools." IN that book he claims Hispanics and blacks have lower IQs than whites and Asians, which is genetically determined.

      How much longer will MSNBC allow this racist wackjob to peddle his phony, bigoted views on the airwaves?
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    • Author by Manjusri (December 29, 2010 11:00 am ET)
         
      It is useful to break down the results by race and immigration. Pat and Vdare are right about these results - they show white and Asian American children outperforming most of the world.

      That fact would lead one to conclude that the schools in the United States are performing quite well, and that problems result from poverty and lack of opportunity. These are statistics that defenders of the school system should be highlighting.

      The problem is that what passes for a Democrat in the media won't - they will just point to the total score and declare the school system a failure. That leaves racists to make the observation. Hopefully, this data will be picked up and utilized, instead of buried.
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    • Author by flegenheimer (December 29, 2010 11:55 am ET)
         
      SPLC. Now that's a reliable source.
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    • Author by dunlerie (December 29, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
         
      It's laughable that you would accuse ANYONE of being a racist or "white supremist" or even supporting such a group after this nation hired a man who spent half his life in a racist church, being groomed and spiritually supported by a racist man.

      Please, once that was done, all that supported him gave up the right to call anyone a racist.
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    • Author by CoolSlaw (December 29, 2010 6:40 pm ET)
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      Here's something I picked up on right away.

      From the Buchanon article:
      African-American kids would have outscored the students of any sub-Saharan African country that took the test (none did) and did outperform the only black country to participate, Trinidad and Tobago, by 25 points.


      This goes to the problem with right wing "science" and "facts". We often accuse right wing media, authors, and politicians of starting with a desired narrative, then lying, omitting, and cherry picking facts to fit that narrative.

      Here we see Buchanon has done exactly that. It's possible that the conclusion he reached is true, but since the Sub Saharan African students didn't take part at all, there is nothing but assumption here. Where the data fits his narrative, he quickly latches onto it, and where there is no data, he simply draws a conclusion.

      If you look carefully at the article again, the only real conclusion you could draw is that America has some damn fine schools and teachers. True to conservative narrative however, instead of praising our nation's schools and teachers, he sees this as a frightening revelation that we're over-educating minority people. A truly bizarre and regrettable conclusion to reach.

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      • Author by $mellyellybelly (December 30, 2010 12:06 am ET)
           
        I feel that there is an important narrative change in Pat Buchanon's remarks. For one, (any) positive praise for America's educational system from a right wing activist is astonishing. USE THIS! Pat basically said positive things about the American Educational system. I'm sure he would advocate doubling public education funding.
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    • Author by doughpro1604643 (December 30, 2010 11:42 am ET)
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      and people who work for media matters listen to fox news.
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      • Author by SMTDL (December 30, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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        Of course ...where else will they find so much conservative misinformation.Buchanan is frequently on MSNBC,Limbaugh and other misinformers have their own venues so MM hardly singles out Fox but they are 24/7 cable news so more slime and lies come from them!
        Fact checking is easy to do.Fox viewers have polled as the most misinformed in multiple polls going back a couple years at least.
        Edward R Murrow and Walter Cronkite muyst be shaking their heads in disgust at the state TV News.
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        • Author by doughpro1604643 (December 30, 2010 6:38 pm ET)
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          Fox viewers as most uninformed. Interesting.

          I agree, Murrow and Cronkite would be shaking their heads at how far down the toilet journalism has gone.
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    • Author by imeanreallynow (December 30, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
         
      Wow so funny (or is it sad?)....almost none of you actually READ the Buchanan or Sailer articles, but you are so sure of your comments. Perhaps it might be helpful to do so that you might grasp what either of them were actually saying? Or you can continue to choose to be:

      "obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs."
      (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry)

      In case there are actually more than a couple individuals that are interested in REAL discourse, here is the Sailer article for you to read and rebut on the facts.
      http://www.vdare.com/sailer/101219_pisa.htm

      peace.
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