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Attention, Beck: Want Your Egypt Theory Taken Seriously? Prove It

February 09, 2011 3:21 pm ET by Todd Gregory

Hey, Glenn.

We noticed you admiring our work last night -- thanks. We put a lot of time into understanding just what it is you're saying, and it's hard sometimes, so your approval means a lot to us.

We also noticed that you've been a bit touchy lately about commentators on the left and the right dismissing what you've said about the uprising in Egypt.

We understand. As you pointed out on your show last night, you bear a heavy burden:

BECK: When people come at us, it's just because they're behind the curvature of the earth, and they can't see, because they can't think the way radicals do. I don't know why I can, but I can. I can see -- I can predict their moves. But I've not seen such an unbelievable effort to discredit me and this show like it is right now. And it's all on the conspiracy theory.

So, I wanted to take a moment -- because, really, they're either right, or I'm right. And if they're right, you shouldn't watch this show. And I'm telling you that. You shouldn't watch this show if they're right. If they're right that this is just all pulled-out-of-the-air, crazy stuff, you shouldn't watch this show.

Well, those of us who are behind the curvature of the earth and can't think the way radicals do need some help. Specifically, we'd like evidence to support what you said about what's happening in Egypt early last week.

Here's a refresher. You had this exchange with Bill O'Reilly on his show on January 31:

O'REILLY: You've proving my point, OK? We tried to stay out of World War II. All right? The majority of Americans didn't want to get involved with Hitler. All right? And it was a disaster.

BECK: I understand that, but what you're not taking into account is that that is what the average person thinks, just like the average person on the street of Cairo thinks they're swept up in some freedom movement. It is not about freedom. It is being orchestrated by the Marxist communists and primarily also the Muslim Brotherhood. [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 1/31/11, via Nexis]

That's what we'd like proof of.

That Marxist communists and the Muslim Brotherhood are orchestrating what's happening in the streets of Cairo.

Not your other theory, the one you introduced on Thursday, after Daily Beast contributor Michelle Goldberg said on Fox & Friends that you'd been peddling "lunatic theories" about what was happening in Egypt.

See, when you responded to Goldberg, your revised theory about Egypt didn't actually mention Egypt:

BECK: [L]et me show you what my theory is. And I stand by it. Everybody on the left, this is my theory and I stand by every word of it.

Groups from the hardcore socialists and communist left and extreme Islam will work together because of the common enemy of Israel and the Jews. Do I have to remind you what happens to Jews under communism, or how friendly they've been to Israel? Do I?

How about the -- how about extreme Islam? Oh, no, it's going to be good.

Groups from the hardcore socialist left and extreme Islam and communism will work together because of the common enemy of capitalism and the Western way of life. It's not just capitalism, it's not the United States, it's your way of life in the West. And I stand by that.

Groups from the hardcore socialist left and communism and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relatively -- relative stability because in the status quo, they are both ostracized from power and the mainstream in most parts of the world.

That's here. I'll put this up for you. Glenn's theory. Here it is. Got it?

That's it and I stand by it. Is it so farfetched, really? [Fox News, Glenn Beck, 2/3/11, via Nexis]

You can tie socialists and Marxists and communists to extreme Islam all you want. Showing video clips of them praising each other won't cut it. That's still not proof of what you were saying.

You were very specific: Both communists and the Muslim Brotherhood are "orchestrating" what was happening in the streets of Cairo.

You need to prove that those two groups are working together -- communicating and coordinating the movement behind the protest.

I know you backtracked a little bit last night when you were praising our rundown of your theory:

BECK: "During this span, Beck connected the violence in Egypt to, among other things, Islamic socialists." Yes. "Marxist communists." Yes. "Food prices." Of course. "Bill Ayers." Mm-hmm. "Code Pink." Yes. "ACORN co-founder Wade Rathke." Yes. "The Tides Foundation's Drummond Pike." Sure.

"The Muslim Brotherhood." Mm-hmm. "And the AFL-CIO." Stand by all of it. But it's not a conspiracy. And they're not necessarily coordinating everything. They're likeminded.

But please, help us out with your original formulation. Show us that a coalition of communists and the Muslim Brotherhood motivated these protests, rather than, say, a social-media campaign organized by a group of young Egyptians, led in part by a Google executive.

We'll examine whatever evidence you offer.

We're ready to do our own research.

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    • Author by magnolialover (February 09, 2011 3:30 pm ET)
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      Mr. Beck has no idea. Just trying to tie together all things he doesn't like as being involved with these happenings in Egypt. It's re-calculus of course. Now, he goes back and says, they're not coordinating everything but they are like minded. Yeah, right.

      How are they like minded? By liking freedom? Because, if that is the bar for entry, I'm in. I like freedom too.

      He of course totally ignores that commies and radical Islamists (ie, the far right, and the far left) don't classically get along at all. Ever.
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    • Author by shaggles (February 09, 2011 3:39 pm ET)
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      Proof? His gut tells him he's right. What more proof could you possibly need?
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      • Author by icantthinkofausername (February 09, 2011 3:58 pm ET)
           
        God.
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      • Author by Oldphoto678 (February 09, 2011 3:58 pm ET)
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        Well, it seems that you haven't been keeping up with the chatter over at The Blaze. According to several posters there it's not his gut telling him he's right. It's God using Beck to spread the word.

        Does that mean that Beck is really John Denver? I hope not. I always liked John Denver.
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        • Author by Avicenna (February 09, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
             
          Oh, my. Which Mormon "god" is it?

          It's not that nutcase former and now deceased FBI agent, whom the FBI said was nuts, is it?

          God is using Glennie. Wow. Glennie, could you ask God to help employ dozens of the journalists I used to employ? See, they are out of work, man, thanks to the capitalist bankers, corrupt politicians, slimy hedge-fund managers, need I go on?

          And, see, Glennie, your trickle-down charity speech wasn't well-received because the Tea Part and Republicans are wanting to cut unemployment insurance extensions.

          So keep on going, brother. We may soon have Egypt here in America with 1 in 4 Californians OUT OF WORK. That doesn't count our "illegal" brothers and sisters from other nations, either.

          So next time you chat with God, could you ask him for some jobs? Send some crumbs to the unemployed, who used to be part of the shrinking middle class?

          Thanks, Glennie.

          Signed: a conservative who doesn't drink the snake oil.
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        • Author by jesus (February 10, 2011 12:45 am ET)
             

          No. It means that Beck is LIKE John Denver. About to run out of gas and crash.
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      • Author by angels4light (February 09, 2011 6:07 pm ET)
           
        IFF he was Leroy Jethro Gibbs, I might suspect that his gut is right. As it is, he is not, and from what I have seen Mr. Beck's gut is full of whatever he has been digesting for the last 10 years.
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    • Author by thebewilderness (February 09, 2011 3:59 pm ET)
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      Groups from the hardcore socialist left and communism and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relatively -- relative stability because in the status quo, they are both ostracized from power and the mainstream in most parts of the world.

      You know, he is right about this.
      Marginalized people, oppressed people, do form coalitions to gain representation for themselves and each other.
      I had never thought that to be a bad thing. In fact we sorta celebrate that around these parts. Or at least we used to.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (February 09, 2011 4:03 pm ET)
         
      Glenn, I'd like to know why the Mooslims haven't taken over Egypt yet? What are they waiting for...? Why haven't they called on Mooslims from all over the world to join the fight? The Caliphate awaits...
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    • Author by mattcable250650 (February 09, 2011 4:19 pm ET)
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      Yeah, I'm a peacenik who works with an anti-war network and we've got our share of commies in the group (I work with another group that has still more). Here's out pro-Egyptian-democracy protest. Kind of a problem though, those two groups contain just about all of the commies/socialists in my city! If these guys, with all of the other socialists and communists and other really hard-core lefties, were working with the radical Islamists, they could probably muster enough troops to take over a modest-size village. Considering that most of the communists I know are of a pretty advanced age (They've got a few young'uns amongst them), I don't think they could hold it against even a moderately determined attack from the military.
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      • Author by magnolialover (February 09, 2011 4:25 pm ET)
           
        They probably couldn't hold it against an attack from a squad sized element.
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    • Author by armendale (February 09, 2011 4:26 pm ET)
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      BECK: Groups from the hardcore socialist left and communism and extreme Islam will work together to overturn relatively -- relative stability because in the status quo, they are both ostracized from power and the mainstream in most parts of the world.

      For Glenn to claim that Obama is a socialist, Islam-loving commie who also happened to win a landslide Presidential election does NOT support his contention that socialists are "ostracized from power and the mainstream."

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    • Author by fishdoc (February 09, 2011 4:29 pm ET)
         
      If he wasn't so dangerous (too many people actually believe what he says) this breakdown that Beck is, apparently, having would be sad to watch. I think he's beginning to believe what he says. I wonder if his messiah complex from last summer tipped him over the edge.
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    • Author by pete592 (February 09, 2011 4:38 pm ET)
         
      Proof comes in the form of lines of chalk.
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    • Author by erieavenue215 (February 09, 2011 4:44 pm ET)
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      Watching this DUMMY is like watching a cat chase his tail, he couldn't prove any of this if his life depended on it.
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    • Author by armendale (February 09, 2011 4:50 pm ET)
         
      proof???

      I'm writing it on a chalkboard! There's your proof in black in white! How much more proofy can you get?

      Besides, if what I am saying isn't true, how would I be able to keep saying it on TV? AND, if I'm not on to something, why is the left out to get me?*

      * a favorite fallacy of beckerheads is to suggest that because people on the left and more and more on the right, including Bill Kristol, vociferously object to Glenn's statements, that such statements therefore must be valid.
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    • Author by NoNannyNeeded (February 09, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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      maybe this will help...
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      • Author by Johaely (February 09, 2011 5:19 pm ET)
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        It doesn't. Begging the question is a logicla fallacy.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (February 09, 2011 5:33 pm ET)
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        Oh that's cool. So the list of what Beck has been right on starts out with two lies right off the bat. We don't have universal health care (though if we were truly a Christian nation, as Beck and Republicans like to claim, we would have had it centuries ago) and death panels have been debunked so many times it is hard to believe that anyone still believes in any; other than those that have been used by real life insurance companies for years. On scanning the rest, it looks like a list of fantasies that Beck has had, though I didn't see his prediction of bin Laden's attacks. I guess he must have gone back and realized that he didn't actually predict that either, huh? Your undying loyalty to your puppet-master is exceedingly cute.
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      • Author by beDecent (February 09, 2011 7:27 pm ET)
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        Ew, his face is all over that site.
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      • Author by overmars jr. (February 09, 2011 9:05 pm ET)
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        Erm...

        We will have universal healthcare 07-26-2007

        WRONG.

        Death panels (agrees with Palin) – 08-10-09

        WRONG.

        Health care will cause financial reset – 3-18-10

        WRONG.

        NEA is putting out Obama propaganda – 9/1/2009

        WRONG.

        Eric Massa story is a waste of time – 3/9/2010

        UMMMM YEAH AFTER HE PROMISED IT WOULD BE HUGE!!

        Acorn is an organization full of fraud & corruption – November 7, 2006

        WRONG.

        Acorn will go underground – 6/18/09

        WRONG.

        Cash for Clunkers warning (cars.gov) – 7/31/09

        WRONG.

        Congress will become irrelevant – June 30, 2009

        WRONG.

        Auto Industry will collapse 7/26/07

        WRONG.

        Debunk FEMA camps myth 3-26-09

        ARE. YOU. JOKING?

        We will monetize the debt – 01/05/10

        :/

        Net Neutrality will neuter the internet – 12/02/09

        WRONG.

        Cass Sunstein is most dangerous man in U.S. – Dec. 7, 2009

        SWEET MOSES.

        Anita Dunn is a Mao lover – Oct. 15, 2009

        WRONG.

        Food prices will inflate – April 21, 2008

        WOW!!! THERE WILL BE INFLATION!!

        --

        Pathetic.
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      • Author by mattcable250650 (February 09, 2011 10:08 pm ET)
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        Beck refers to a Socialism Today piece to prove that Socialist and radical Islamists are working together. Slight problem with that:
        How should Marxists approach the Muslim communities of Britain? Our starting point is to stand firmly against anti-Islamic discrimination, and in defence of the right of all Muslims, regardless of their class or outlook, to be able to live free of Islamaphobia. Concretely, this means fighting for the right of Muslims to practise their religion freely, including the right to choose what they wear.
        In other words, the Socialist-Muslim alliance that Beck speaks of is something Socialists are looking forward to, not something that has already been achieved!
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      • Author by jiminva (February 10, 2011 12:05 am ET)
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        You have to be kidding me? That's a joke right?
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    • Author by curiousindependent (February 09, 2011 5:19 pm ET)
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      Isn't it cute the way that his cultists will take a statement like

      If they're right that this is just all pulled-out-of-the-air, crazy stuff, you shouldn't watch this show.
      as proof that Beck is right?
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    • Author by curiousindependent (February 09, 2011 5:24 pm ET)
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      Well jeez, Todd. You blew it with that last line. Beck only tells his culties to do their own research because he knows that they won't. What makes you think he wants someone actually researching anything he says?
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