Jim Hoft Blames Lara Logan For Her Sexual Assault
February 16, 2011 1:59 pm ET by Ben Dimiero
One thing you learn when covering Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft is to never declare anything he does "rock bottom," because he always manages to find a new low.
Today, he blamed CBS reporter Lara Logan and "her liberal belief system" for her sexual assault and beating in Egypt. In a post headlined "After Sexual Assault & Beating... CBS Reporter Logan Learns That Political Correctness Is a Killer" Hoft writes [emphasis in original]:
Lara Logan is lucky she's alive.
Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday. This talented reporter will never be the same.Why did this attractive blonde female reporter wander into Tahrir Square last Friday? Why would she think this was a good idea? Did she not see the violence in the square the last three weeks? Did she not see the rock throwing? Did she miss the camels? Did her colleagues tell her about the Western journalists who were viciously assaulted on the Square? Did she forget about the taunts from the Egyptian thugs the day before? What was she thinking? Was it her political correctness that about got her killed? Did she think things would be different for her?
Earlier today, we documented the unfortunate wave of victim-blaming and ugliness Logan's sexual assault has spawned. Add Hoft to the list.
UPDATE:
Hoft has updated his post with a response to Media Matters, saying that "the post stands":UPDATE: Sorry Media Matters the post stands.
The far left does not like it when their tenets are questioned. It must be hard when someone holds a mirror up and you see that your twisted agenda has caused such havoc and pain around the world. These warped individuals must have missed that day of school when they talked about playing with fire.
One final question- Does Media Matters ever post anything that is not a dishonest smear on their website?
I'd bemoan what a horrible human being Jim is but I think the evidence is piling up that he's actually some sort of racist crab-person.
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Next week, watch for Hoft's latest expose blaming Charles Lindbergh for his son's kidnapping and murder in 1932. After all, if the pinko liberal didn't want his kid to be snatched, he should have honored Junior's second amendment rights, and given him a loaded pistol to sleep with.
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No, other journalists didn't. A team from Fox News was attacked and detained. Anderson Cooper was assaulted. Numerous reporters were attacked and/or detained: 140 news organizations including CNN, CBS, the BBC, Danish TV2 News, Swiss television and Belgium's Le Soir newspaper all reported attacks.
Hoft gets the luxury of commenting from the safety of his cushy office. He comments on the news others risk their lives to collect and report.
Again, you're wrong. There was reporting about the violence, particularly AFTER Mubarak sent in his goons. (I don't recall any reports of deaths before the camels and horses stampeded the protests.) This reporter was rescued and escorted out of the area by Egyptian soldiers and a group of women. It's very possible--and in my mind, likely--that Logan was attacked by followers of Mubarak, who were spreading terror.
Your slander against Egyptians is so typical of the right wing slime machine that you need to go back to your kennel and curl up with your mother.
"Her liberal belief system almost got her killed on Friday."
Then a few sentences later:
"Was it her political correctness that about got her killed?"
Hey, Hoft. Adding a bunch of question marks to your assertions is cowardly.
I just visited the other thread about Beck's varying opinions of young people being based on their politics, and there's is some mind-numbing "logic" going on there.
"liberal belief system"? "political correctness"?
unbelievable.
I was wrong.
It seems in the game of politics, blaming rape victims and defending rapists is just par for the course for them. I wonder how long before they come to this story and start infecting it with their disgusting rhetoric.
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I mean come on...if any liberal commentator, blogger, journalist, or politician ever made any comments like this about a Republican reporter who was sexually assaulted, I would immediately make known my absolute disgust at those words.
Who the hell defends this kind of thing?
Apparently, all the War Correspondents who have been killed over the years should have known better. I mean, did they not see the guys with guns? Did they not hear the artillery? Did their colleagues not tell them about all the killing that was going on?
Jesus H. Christ.
These people are sick and very sad.
After Anderson Cooper was allegedly punched up, I heard second-string radio meathead Mike Gallagher playing and re-playing the audio of Cooper describing being beat, as Gallagher giggled uncontrollably.
When he finally regained his composure, MG went into a rany about how stupid Cooper was for being there, essentially blaming him for what MG obviously considered a laugh riot.
Of course, Gallagher was doing all of this from a safe studio somewhere in the U.S.
Fog, did you ever see the phony email about the Muslims on the plane, and the story being buried in order to be "PC"? It's over a year old but I just got it last week. I'm embarrassed to admit that, I thought I was up to date in all my wingnut email loops.
It's in my Hall of Shame now. ( link is to somebody's blog, I wanted to get the version emailed around by the geezers)
Airline Incident
It's got everything; the omniscient narrator that never seems to set off the wingnuts BS detectors, the macho right wingers ( Texans, no less), even a Moozlim shouting " Shut up, Infidel Dog!" at a flight attendant, straight out of a movie.
The far right is drifting further into Fantasyland every day.
One Side Is Not Enough: The Diminished Relevance Of Media Matters
Was it really that easy to convince you that a site that criticizes the mainstream media is irrelevant because it wasn't cited widely by the mainstream media when it posted an article about the shoddiness of a mainstream media outlet ? Really ?
If Marco21 won't answer it, can you, mjlilgui?
What Nir Rosen tweeted was far more direct and far more offensive than what Jim Hoft wrote. Jim Hoft is a blogger. Nir Rosen is a journalist who writes for the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly, the New York Times Magazin, the Boston Review and Harper's, and has a fellowship at NYU. The problem is, as apparently Ben Demiero sees it, is that Nir Rosen also happens to be a liberal, so it won't come under his assignment of following guys like Jim Hoft.
And Ben has to do all kinds of mind-reading and presumptive assertions to make the case that his misleading headline is somehow a true statement.
That, mjlilgui, is why the article in Mediaite is so spot on, and why MMfA's hiring of college grads to obsessively track bloggers like Hoft is proof of their diminishing relevance in politics today.
Your turn.
And for the record, the liberal reaction to Nir Rosen I've seen has unanimously denounced his actions. He said a stupid thing. He was rightfully called out on it, and he's deactivating his Twitter account as a result. You'll have to look far and wide for someone who will defend the substance of Nir Rosen's comments.
And I know it's hard for you folks to grasp, but Media Matters doesn't cover liberal media. Conservative media. Say it with me. Con-serv-a-tive me-di-a. Do you know that Ben approves of what Nir Rosen said? You don't, but you're assuming he does so that you can attack him. You're doing the exact same thing you accuse him of. High five!
My turn what?
The title to this blog post is factually incorrect, mjlilgui. Do you not see a problem with that in the slightest? He said she used poor judgment. That's not saying she was to blame or that she deserved it.
I think you already know it's crap. That's why you passed by my other comment, about the obvious reasons the mainstream media might not highlight a report about problems with our mainstream media. That was too inconvenient for you.
Of course, the other problem here is that Mediaite's premise sort of works against the whole "liberal media" myth that the right has been trying to keep on life support for years.
If, as Fox says, everybody else but Fox is promoting the liberal agenda, wouldn't the MMFA piece have been widely promoted in the media ?
Now, there's the kind of speculation Mediaite should be doing, not suggesting out of thin air that if they had done the Fox piece, somebody in the mainstream would have pushed it. That only suggests that they know they're a much less threatening source, more compliant with the mainstream.
If Mediaite thought MMFA was irrelevant, they wouldn't have bothered writing that flimsy hit piece.
By the same token, if Ben Demiero thought JIm Hoft, the object of his obsession, was the 'stupidest person on the internet', then why does he track him daily?
The answer is he does it because he's told to do it.
Tell me how that makes sense from a relevancy standpoint for MMfA, please, because to me, that makes none whatsoever.
In fact, and unfortunately, in our current slide toward the Idiocracy, the stupidest sometimes need to be highlighted because they have a significant audience.
Here's the difference; Mediamatters will occasionally mention the lost advertisers or falling ratings of a specific floundering right wing source, but generally only after citing them for many incidents before.
Mediaite is building almost its entire attack on MMFA on the fact that the recent Fox story wasn't widely picked up by the mainstream media. It's a worse reflection on our mainstream media than it is on MMFA, but that's not what Mediaite wanted you to see.
Mediaite can't point out examples of this site being dishonest or stupid, so they go with "unpopular" and " not connected to the mainstream media", two criticisms that have very little to do with relevance or quality.
Hoft can't contest anything so he goes with "My critics are just angry that I exposed them" ( while nothing supports this), and closes with his "final question",in which he poisons the well with more unsubstantiated opinions dressed up as facts.
I wish I was on your side here. I really wish I could say that stupidity was insignificant in our country today. But it's not. The Tea party can swing an election ( for now, anyway), Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck are considered serious voices by at least some of our media, and a good percentage of one of our political parties doesn't even know if our president was born in this country.
"Stupid" is not "irrelevant", I'm sorry to say.
When you posted this the other day, it had the same problem with translating the non-standard characters (mainly apostrophes and quotation marks). Why not clean it up before cutting-and-pasting it again? Do you really want to make it difficult for your readers?
Is that easy enough for you?
I guess that wasn't easy enough for you.
"Belief system" has nothing to do with being attacked in a foreign country while said country's people are uprising..
Anyone with the slightest degree of common sense can understand that.
They'd be drafting a declaration of war against Egypt.
....(says st1kyfinguz as he rocks back and forth in a fetal position)
How come you've gotten fifteen uprates and no downrates for saying the exact same thing Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft said? Is absolutely nobody on this thread rating by logic and reason? Is everyone illiterate or is the partisanship that bad? In case anyone -- or everyone -- failed to read the linked article, Hoft's central point is that the crowd was ready to attack any Westerners, and he is arguing against the strawman assumption that such an attack could not possibly happen because the revolutionaries are our friends. Repeating Hoft's central point does not produce a counterargument.
Who are you accusing of using a straw man here ? Is somebody accusing Hoft of using one ? Is somebody actually saying an attack was impossible ? Sorry, I've read this about five times, and still having trouble.
You may have been a little worked up when you posted that, but if you could clear it up when you've calmed down, I was curious about the "straw man" part.
This guy's way beyond the line.
I'm sure THEY'LL understand that she's a reporter who wants to help them get their side of the story out.
I think it's very sad for what has happened to her, but I doubt there was reporter in the arena when Daniel was put in with the lions.
There’s always a time and place for getting a story and CBS should've known better than send a blonde woman into a Muslim country already whipped into hysteria.
It's like that saying, "Never mudwrestle with a pig. You get dirty. The pig likes it."
The only thing we can really do is just realize that these kinds of people are the ones who can't figure out why the world is passing them by and move on beyond them.
I made the mistake of engaging MagCynic in the other Lara Logan story and realized that he's so far gone and has so little self-awareness that I was arguing with an infant. It's better to just leave these people to their idiocy and only engage people with the ability to actually think.
I will try harder.
Get off your PC arse and realize that there's a time and a place to get a story. I mean geeeze louise, they burned down the Al Jazeera offices, but somehow Lara or 60 Minutes thought that she could just waltz in and get the story.
CBS should be blasted for this.
Sorry, which "feminist perspective" are you referring to? If it is this...
That's bigotry, not "the feminist perspective".
Get off your PC arse and realize that there's a time and a place to get a story. I mean geeeze louise, they burned down the Al Jazeera offices, but somehow Lara or 60 Minutes thought that she could just waltz in and get the story.
This was not posted yesterday, thank you MMFA.
hope your not married or that your wife doesn't see this.
Lara Loft's last dump contained 120 billion times more courage and journalistic integrity than this dickwad will ever have.
Maybe 150 billion.
Lara Logan - dickwad anger makes me type funny.
I mean she goes to a country where over 80 percent believe in Sharia law and really expects the men to back down because she has a CBS coat on?
And this after so many other reporters had been assaulted?
Really?
REAL Journalists all across this nation should speak up and respond to the commentary of these rabid wannabees.
I am emailing these MMFA articles to every real journalist and honest news analyst in my address book, Thanking those who have already published a response and asking all others to swiftly publish responses to the commentary of these vulgar, vile degenerates.
You call someone disgusting but it is your distortion of the facts that is disgusting.
I'll wait for your answer about the young woman's behavior, do you think it is wise for a drunk woman to be wandering around the West Side of Manhattan at 2 or 3 in the morning?
Blaming Logan--or any other woman--seems criminal. Testosterone gets a free pass all the time and the woman (read: victim) bears a huge burden for being attacked! Treating victims of sexual assaults this way is no way for a developed nation to behave!
These type of men are sick sexually speaking. They objectify women. They probably are the ones frequenting porn sites, etc.
They see rape as sex, rather than seeing rape as power, control and violence.
So, it is more correct to say that blaming Logan or any other woman is sick. Not criminal. Just really, really, weirdly sick.
Signed: a male conservative.
He's not any more responsible than the typical troll who posts this question here on a regular basis, but can never point to an example of dishonesty. he doesn't seem to have any trouble basing his posts on complete BS, either.
Hoft ( or your intern) , if you're reading this thread, can you give an example ?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/begging-the-question.html
Very popular with several of the resident trolls.
In fact there is this one guy who does not seem to be able to form a sentence without using this technique.
Now if we can just get all of the pundits on TV to stop saying " That begs the question..." when they're saying that something prompts a question. ;0)
Misusing the term "begging the question" in the same breath that she abuses the logical fallacy of the same name.
Impressive.
Arguing that Hoft is a jerk for claiming a woman encouraged sexual assault against her is not a smear. Anyone who claims a woman encouraged a sexual assault against her is a jerk. 'Nuff said.
Since when are victims free from criticism? Lara Logan was previously detained in Egypt. She certainly heard the numerous stories about other journalists getting attacked and beaten. Journalists worldwide understand the risks when covering violent protests around the world.
Having said that, of course it's not her fault that she was attacked, but she certainly was the one that put herself in such a vulnerable position. If I walked through the most violent gang ghetto in Chicago do you think I'd be attacked or not? Would I be at fault or would I simply be the one who put myself in such a vulnerable position?
Flame on.
Also, Mag, Hoft said it was because she was a LIBERAL that this happened. Is there any merit to that argument, whatsoever?
Come on, don't just automatically gainsay what you imagine "the left" thinks. This isn't that kind of issue. Really think here.
Lara knew the risks. She accepted them.
That does not mean what happened to her was to be expected, justified.
I did not see similar outrage about Anderson Cooper, which shows how sick you sickos are sexually speaking, in that in this, you see sex, when it has NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX, but has everything to do with intolerance and violence, and is not gender-specific, since Cooper was also attacked.
You really need to take a course in critical thinking, Mag. You make real conservatives look so sorely stupid that I'm embarrassed to call myself conservative.
Of course, you could just be a Tea Party or Republican stooge; in that case, you are forgiven, because only a stooge would belong to either of those groups. Just my opinion, after having known so many Republicans and covered their actions in office and behind the scenes. As for you Democrats, they are just as corrupt politically.
Lara will get through this horrid ordeal, will heal stronger than she was before and will continue to thrive and excel in both her personal life and her career.
But the Pervy Pundit will never be anything more than just another despicable commentator with a blog among many, many other despicable commentators with blogs that abound across the Internet.
I'm a CONSERVATIVE, EDITOR, a REAL journalist.
You are an immoral and unethical bore. In fact, you are the media whore, drawing attention to yourself through your dung-heaped posts.
What an imbecile.
So take it from this conservative journalist: you suck.
I can't say, honestly, that this is an isolated case and that Hoft is just a jerk, its not his fault nor is it the media or education or any of the other usual scapegoats. The fact, from what I've seen growing up in a conservative household, (I'm a liberal) and listening to people, not pundits, talking in public, is that this is conservatism. They believe that people can deserve rape. They believe that people don't deserve health care, food, or other basic necessities unless they can afford to pay for it individually. They would gladly watch you or your children starve to death in the street, or die of easily treated disease or injury. They believe that some people are better than other people because of their color, nationality, religious beliefs, sexual orientation, political beliefs or income. They believe that the best epoch of American history was when minorities still had to sit at the back of the bus. They believe apartheid was a good thing. I have had more than one teacher in grade school and college, who claimed that Mandela was a terrorist, and that South Africa was better off under apartheid, and I've heard it said since by pundits. They hate anyone who does not agree with them and believe that those who disagree deserve nothing. They support the first amendment as long as it is being practiced in their favor, they support the second amendment as long as they are the ones pointing the guns. They support the right to vote, as long as you can pass a test. Knowing all of this, how can I teach my son to respect and listen to his elders? How can I teach him that just because an adult says something does not make it right, or even respectable?
Why isn't Media Matters reporting on this man? Why is it only the conservative media, journalists and bloggers, who are held accountable and responsible for the evil remarks?
My apologies to pigs!!!
Afaik, no Muslim, not even an 'ultra-Selafist' (if there is such a term) would deny that many hadith are 'weak' and unreliable. The question is which ones, and there is considerable debate about that, with no consensus among Muslims in general. (A comparison would be hard to find with any Protestant belief, but the hadith are viewed much as a 'Lives of the Saints' for Catholics, as overall being 'spiritually helpful' but not being accurate in all details.)