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Huckabee: Obama Grew Up "In Kenya"

March 01, 2011 1:26 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

During a radio appearance yesterday, Mike Huckabee repeatedly falsely claimed that President Obama grew up in Kenya. After questioning Obama's purported secrecy about the birth certificate, radio host Steve Malzberg asked Huckabee if "we deserve to know more about this man." Huckabee responded, "I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough."  

Speaking on WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show, Huckabee -- a Fox News host and potential presidential candidate -- said that "one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American ... his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British are a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather." 

From the February 28 program:

MALZBERG: Don't you think it's fair also to ask him, I know your stance on this. How come we don't have a health record, we don't have a college record, we don't have a birth cer - why Mr. Obama did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It's one thing to say, I've -- you've seen it, goodbye. But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it? Don't you think we deserve to know more about this man?

HUCKABEE: I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American. When he gave the bust back to the Brits --

MALZBERG: Of Winston Churchill.

HUCKABEE: The bust of Winston Churchill, a great insult to the British. But then if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.

Huckabee was later asked if he would bring up the issue of Obama's birth certificate during a presidential debate. Huckabee replied: "The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons [inaudible] and believe me, they have lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."  

PolitiFact has noted that there "is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact's conclusion that the candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn't authentic."

Contrary to Huckabee's claims, Obama did not grow up in Kenya. Obama spends significant portions of his book Dreams From My Father describing his first visit to Kenya in the late 1980s. On page 304, Obama writes of his arrival at Kenyatta International Airport (emphasis added):

Kenyatta International Airport was almost empty. Officials sipped at their morning tea as they checked over passports; in the baggage area, a creaky conveyor belt slowly disgorged luggage. Auma was nowhere in sight, so I took a seat on my carry-on bag and lit a cigarette. After a few minutes, a security guard with a wooden club started to walk toward me. I looked around for an ashtray, thinking I must be in a no-smoking area, but instead of scolding me, the guard smiled and asked if I had another cigarette to spare.

"This is your first trip to Kenya, yes?" he asked as I gave him a light.

"That's right."

"I see." He squatted down beside me. "You are from America. You know my brother's son, perhaps. Samson Otieno. He is studying engineering in Texas."

I told him that I'd never been to Texas and so hadn't had the opportunity to meet his nephew. This seemed to disappoint him, and he took several puffs from his cigarette in quick succession.

The BBC noted in a 2008 article that "Barack Obama has never lived in Kenya and he has visited the country just three times."

Additionally, Obama did not grow up "with a Kenyan father and grandfather." Indeed, Dreams From My Father is largely about Obama's struggles with the absence of his father. The AP noted in 2006 that Obama "was mostly raised in Hawaii and did not know his Kenyan father well."

From the February 28 edition of WOR's The Steve Malzberg Show:

MALZBERG: Don't you think it's fair also to ask him, I know your stance on this. How come we don't have a health record, we don't have a college record, we don't have a birth cer - why Mr. Obama did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate. It's one thing to say, I've -- you've seen it, goodbye. But why go to court and send lawyers to defend against having to show it? Don't you think we deserve to know more about this man?

HUCKABEE: I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American. When he gave the bust back to the Brits --

MALZBERG: Of Winston Churchill.

HUCKABEE: The bust of Winston Churchill, a great insult to the British. But then if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather.

MALZBERG: He despises the west, he despises the Brits, and I think he could take it all out on Israel and that's why he despises Israel. He's not too thrilled with our history either. But let me just try to get an answer from you. Would you say to him, or at least ask him in a debate, why did you go to court and spend millions of dollars on lawyers to prevent from having to show your birth certificate. If you have one and it's there, why not show it?

HUCKABEE: The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons [inaudible] and believe me, they have lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it. 

MALZBERG: Let me just give you one as we end here. The Clintons probably - there was probably a lot on the Clintons that the Obamas could have said, 'yeah, you do that, we'll come back with this.' Don't think for a minute. You're from Arkansas; you know that better than me. Now, having said that, when are you going to decide to run or not?

HUCKABEE: Probably sometime late spring, early summer.

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    • Author by mmfa.fan (March 01, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
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      he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists
      They weren't?
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      • Author by MiG (March 01, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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        That's what i thought. And rest assured, I grew up in a place where a tan was something you'd have to pay for.
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        • Author by Bad News (March 01, 2011 2:58 pm ET)
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          Attack his Policies & Not The Man?
          Governor Huckabee, i thought this was your Master Plan?
          But i guess it wasn't Extreme enough was it Mike, for your Right-Base?
          Mike Huckabee needs "To Pay For" his Sins for his Not Too Subliminal attack on Obama's Race.

          Speak truth to power.


          Mr. News

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          • Author by bemusedly (March 01, 2011 3:02 pm ET)
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            Please stop writing these "poems." They aren't good.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 01, 2011 3:16 pm ET)
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              Please stop writing these "poems." They aren't good.


              Worst haiku ever.
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              • Author by Bronwyn (March 01, 2011 3:48 pm ET)
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                ROTFLMAO!! Thanks!!
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                • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 01, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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                  Any time.
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                  • Author by Bronwyn (March 01, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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                    Promice? ;>)
                    Actually, your post made me blush red hot, remembering my only attempt at poetry. And worse, I sent it to him!! Oh, I could die just thinking of it. It was terrible. I was attempting to reciprocate a lovely haiku, he wrote for me.
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                    • Author by Bronwyn (March 01, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
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                      promise! good grief!
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                    • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 01, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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                      Honezt! =>

                      See, dredging up old feelings of inadequacy or embarrassment is just one of the services I offer.
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                      • Author by Bronwyn (March 01, 2011 5:09 pm ET)
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                        Oh Yeah, thanks for that too. Now I can't stop thinking about that scallywag. Wonder if that horrible poem, had anything to do with him being the only guy to dump me? He should have loved me forever, just for attempting such a feat.
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              • Author by Bronxboy47 (March 01, 2011 10:40 pm ET)
                   
                Absolutely brilliant! Thanks, I really needed a good laugh today.
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              • Author by Zenmistress (March 02, 2011 9:18 am ET)
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                They aren't Haiku.
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            • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 01, 2011 3:46 pm ET)
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              Let him write whatever he wants to write, because Americans still have a right to free speech, you know!
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              • Author by Bronwyn (March 01, 2011 3:54 pm ET)
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                Huckabee is some minister isn't he? The bald faced liar.
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                • Author by dogbreath (March 01, 2011 10:58 pm ET)
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                  Liars go to hell, Governor.
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                  • Author by kamrom (March 02, 2011 12:18 am ET)
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                    Not ones who follow Capitalist Jesus. You know, the ones who can ignore everything they dont like about the bible while claiming to be biblical literalists. Since they think they can get a free ride by simply stating a love for Jesus, their word should be considered false.

                    Even the claims of biblical adherence at all is moot; they dont think it would stop them from going to heaven just for lying about everything. Praise Jesus and you're saved forever apparently.

                    Besides, they don't care about free speech. These rightwingers just want to lie and hurt and manipulate, and have no qualms about screwing with peoples faith in order to do. And no one who acts the way they do at tea partys, in the government, as governors of florida or wisconsin, etc etc..could be considerd a true christian anyway.
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                  • Author by oldsquid (March 02, 2011 12:21 am ET)
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                    Dogbreath -So do namecallers.
                    Interesting moniker. ladies must love to get close.
                    Do you have your very own waterbowl?
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          • Author by mari2jj (March 01, 2011 10:43 pm ET)
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            I am now unsure if Huckabee's really off the wall comments about Obama are based on his obvious racism that may result from the prevalent racism in Arkansas during their history of hate filled segregation or if he is trying to win Republicans to his cause. Both things seem equally disgusting. He certainly is just telling outright lies about Obama now and he is ruining any trust anyone can honestly have in what he says. He just lies. Poor thing just has to make some reasonable defense for his obvious racism.
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          • Author by oldsquid (March 02, 2011 12:17 am ET)
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            Bad News - Right off the bat, you're playing the race card. Is that all you've got?
            BHO is a joke
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            • Author by davein2d (March 02, 2011 5:40 am ET)
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              accusing our first black president of really being kenyan, and very much not american, is playing the race card.
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              • Author by MiniTru (March 02, 2011 7:25 am ET)
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                It's playing the whole race deck.
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                • Author by kamrom (March 02, 2011 11:40 am ET)
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                  Because I like hyberole, we should it's building and playing the whole race deck! Since not only are they being horrificly absurd and ignorant in thier accusations, every single word of it is made out of apparently absolutely nothing. Well, not *absolutely* nothing. Its just I dont know how to quantify a structure that exists only based on "whatever crazy comes out of my mouth that makes my followers even more insane."
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                • Author by MiniTru (March 02, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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                  Q. Why couldn't the animals on Noah's ark play cards?

                  A. Because Noah always sat on the deck.
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          • Author by owthathurt (March 02, 2011 7:19 am ET)
               
            I am a musician and poet/singer songwriter. I actually like it
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        • Author by mata ruach (March 01, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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          Being raised in a Commonwealth country, Canada, the fact that I lived in the British Empire led me to believe that they were probably Imperialists. I figured this out without any assistance at a very young age.
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      • Author by buzzoven (March 01, 2011 1:35 pm ET)
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        I thought they took great pride in how the sun never set on the British EMPIRE.
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      • Author by sam from california (March 01, 2011 2:12 pm ET)
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        Thankyou.

        Its dumb too, considering America themselves rebelled from the British EMPIRE.

        Basically, people of colour will never vote for a party which thinks it's bad to resent Britain for sending black tribal kenyans into concentration camps.
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        • Author by sloucho84 (March 01, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
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          No, but see we rebelled because we didn't want to pay taxes... and Obama wants to take our hard-earned money.
          The Kenyans rebelled because the Brits took all their land... and Obama... darn it, I can't even fake this one.
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          • Author by Nailbunny (March 02, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
               
            Could you verify you're kidding before I launch into a history lesson?
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      • Author by rtwmd1230 (March 01, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
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        Hving an empire does, kind of, you know, make you an imperialist.
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        • Author by alwaysright1 (March 01, 2011 9:40 pm ET)
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          So that would refute the claim of some on the left that we are an imperialistic country, we don't have an empire.
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          • Author by mmfa.fan (March 01, 2011 10:09 pm ET)
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            We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.
            - Karl Rove
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          • Author by MidnightWriter (March 02, 2011 1:03 am ET)
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            American Samoa.
            Baker Island.
            Guam.
            Howland Island.
            Jarvis Island.
            Johnston Atoll.
            Kingman Reef.
            Midway Islands.
            Navassa Island.
            Northern Mariana Islands.
            Palmyra Atoll.
            Puerto Rico.
            Virgin Islands.
            Wake Island.

            And we have military bases in 50 nations.
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            • Author by jaguarundi (March 02, 2011 2:50 am ET)
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              How about the countries we have invaded, attacked, fatally destabilized or destroyed?
              (for simplicity I will only list the last 100 years):
              Cuba (1902-1959, 1962, Another Brilliant USA Job),
              Philippines (1900- ),
              Haiti (1915-34, 1994),
              Dominican Republic (1916-24, 1965),
              Puerto Rico (1900, US Empire),
              Honduras (1912, 1919),
              Guatemala (1954),
              Mexico (1916-17),
              Panama (1903-79 US Protectorate),
              Nicaragua (1979, Contras),
              Chile (1973, BTW - Great Job CIA),
              Vietnam (1964-73),
              Laos (1970),
              Cambodia (1970),
              Lebanon (1980’s),
              Granada (1981),
              Guam (1944, US Empire),
              Northern Mariana Islands (1944)
              American Samoa (1944, US Empire),
              Okinawa (1945),
              Korea (1951-53),
              Somalia (1991),
              Kuwait(1992),
              Iran (1953 CIA, The "I" is actually for "Intelligence"),
              Iraq (1991, 2003),
              Afghanistan (2002-?),
              Libya (198?),
              Sudan (1998-Tomahawk cruise missile attack),
              USSR (1918-19),
              Germany (1945),
              Japan (1945),
              Italy (1945).
              Look, I'm tired and these are just what I can list off the top of my head. I think it's easier to list the countries we haven't invaded, attacked, fatally destabilized or destroyed.
              Now do you understand why we need a defense (war) budget that is greater than all the other nations combined? Why several countries are striving to get atomic weapons as quickly as possible and lastly, why the whole world loves us so?

              The ONLY plausible threat to my freedom, for over 100 years now, is my own government. One of the biggest failures of American education is World history.
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            • Author by jaguarundi (March 02, 2011 2:56 am ET)
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              With a name like alwaysright1, how can someone be always wrong? The laws of probability dictate that they must be correct in something, sometime. I guess the name just means "Always Conservative" and intellectually sharp as a bowling ball.
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              • Author by bushputz (March 02, 2011 5:47 pm ET)
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                "With a name like alwaysright1, how can someone be always wrong?"

                Easy. Ever hear of the Dunning-Kruger effect?
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        • Author by oldsquid (March 02, 2011 12:24 am ET)
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          Brilliant!
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      • Author by sand11 (March 02, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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        The British most definitely were Imperialists and the chances are very high that they probably did abuse his father and grandfather. It is unfortunate that even in the upper tiers of politics Americans are so ignorant of World history. The Mau Maus were freedom fighters by any country's definition.....except England's of course.
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      • Author by USARogue (March 02, 2011 9:53 pm ET)
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        I guess only those that were tired of visiting all 57 states can be admonished from these type of misstatements.
        Or perhaps being in Vietnam when you never were is OK to misspeak about it.
        But then again, when you think about it, making these stupid comments got these buffoons elected.
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        • Author by MiniTru (March 03, 2011 7:57 am ET)
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          Boring troll is old and boring.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 03, 2011 6:44 pm ET)
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          these stupid comments got these buffoons elected.


          Soooo... you would be running for which elected office?
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    • Author by HumblePie (March 01, 2011 1:31 pm ET)
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      When new ideas can't be mustered, let alone jobs, leave it to the GOP to rely on their fallback position. How, very, very pathetic.
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    • Author by m.welker (March 01, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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      sigh
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    • Author by soze169880 (March 01, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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      You know these people are full of sh!t when they name their movement after the Boston Tea Party but get butthurt at Obama's perceived inadequate deference to the British.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
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        I don't know if that's fair to say they're full of it. It could just be that well-documented inability to think about two things at once.
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      • Author by Imbecile (March 01, 2011 1:40 pm ET)
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        Yeah, didn't President Obama fondle the bust of one of Winston Churchill's descendents and then deport him or her back to Libya after forcing the military to build a gay bathouse for George Soros there, or something like that?

        Why would he do that to such a revered British figure? He must be a marxist.
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        • Author by renato (March 01, 2011 4:23 pm ET)
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          islamomarxist, get your meme straight
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          • Author by mary59 (March 02, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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            A confused theme is the best strategery when dealing with the tea party crowd.

            They need mixed metaphors and contradictory statements in order to feel that their leaders have given them "depth"
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      • Author by free bird (March 01, 2011 5:56 pm ET)
           
        Some poll showed that 25% of Americans don't know which country the Revolutionary War was fought against, and I'd be willing to bet that's the same group that formed the Tea Party. Of course, 70% of statistics are made up.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (March 01, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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        I thought that was almost as odd as normally straight shooter Huckabee jumping the fence of sanity into the filthy cesspool that is birtherism.

        What's the deal with the sudden British sensitivity? I thought it didn't matter to conservatives how we felt about anyone else in the world. I thought all Europeans were a bunch of socialist pansies according to the conservative movement. Weren't we supposed to be suspect of the British because they have "socialized medicine"? This whole interview segment is bizarre.
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      • Author by Cy Guy (March 02, 2011 8:26 am ET)
           
        Yeah, I know I was taught that not my grandfather, but my GGGG grandfather had to live in a colony under the British empire and fought in TWO wars to ensure my freedom. I also thought the Tea Party members celebrated this.
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    • Author by AB-001 (March 01, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
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      Apt piece from RFK Jr. on the Huffington Post. Fox cannot get a radio or TV license in Canada. Seems they have laws against broadcasting lies.

      Huckabee is knowingly lying. It's that simple.

      RFK Jr. Column on HP
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      • Author by lede39571545 (March 01, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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        (stuttering)....bbbbut I though he was a man of God, certainly of the cloth. Is he not afraid that he will burn in hell for lying? Or, is he the devil in deguise?
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        • Author by The_Cat (March 01, 2011 2:35 pm ET)
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          He and his Faux Con/Republican friends believe they have Gob on their side, and that therefore the ends justify the means. One more reason they should not have any authority at all.
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          • Author by zehammer (March 01, 2011 4:42 pm ET)
               
            If they think they have Gob on their side, then they've made a huge mistake. COME ON!
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          • Author by mescal (March 01, 2011 7:22 pm ET)
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            Yeah... that whole Commandment thing about not bearing false witness against your neighbors? God apparently didn't mean that to apply in the case of anti-imperialist Kenyon Muslim Marxist socialist communist Nazi atheist progressive Others, so Huckabee hasn't REALLY broken any rules... at least none that matter.
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      • Author by mmfa.fan (March 01, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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        Fox cannot get a radio or TV license in Canada. Seems they have laws against broadcasting lies.
        Yes, thankfully. Of course, it will be seen as more proof of our evil socialist progressiveness, or something.
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        • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 5:47 pm ET)
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          Fox and Murdoch are ABHORRED in the U.K. Hopefully Canada will stand its ground on this.
          In the US the citizenry just laps up their toxic waste. That must tell you something. There is something about America.. there are so many that just love to hate, it's deeply ingrained in the culture.
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      • Author by dogbreath (March 01, 2011 11:00 pm ET)
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        I love Canada more everyday.
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    • Author by average american (March 01, 2011 1:38 pm ET)
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      the gop doesn't have a plan to create a single job they know it America knows it.

      to have any chance in 2012 they have to somehow convince voters there is something "Wrong" with Mr. Obama.

      we will see a lot of this kind of attacks leading up to November 2012
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (March 01, 2011 1:43 pm ET)
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        the gop doesn't have a plan to create a single job they know it America knows it

        It's worse than that. They don't care that their agenda is to slash existing jobs.

        The Republican Brotherhood wants the economy to tank so they have a better chance of re-taking the presidency in 2012. And then they can complete the theft they started before the black usurper got in their way.
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        • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 5:27 pm ET)
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          "Republican Brotherhood" -- I love it! Priceless! All I know is I fear them and their God far more than the Muslims. This is actually a clear and present danger.
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    • Author by galmud (March 01, 2011 1:39 pm ET)
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      HUCKABEE: I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American. When he gave the bust back to the Brits --

      Again with this racist Obama hates the British nonsense! Disgusting. They will say anything to claim "Obama is not like the rest of us"
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (March 01, 2011 6:20 pm ET)
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        Not only that, but once you get past the actual easily proven lies and false time line, it's a question of:

        Even if your blatantly false assertions were true, how the hell do you know what Kenyans think and feel anyway? Who are you to claim expertise on Kenyan political attitudes, Mr. Huckabee?

        Not only that but:

        How the hell can you claim you would know how President Obama feels about the British, even if your bogus claim about his growing up there were true? Also, what difference does it make if someone gains a different perspective about the British from living in or visiting another country, Mr. Huckabee?

        Again, that is provided your easily debunked lies and accounts of President Obama's upbringing were even true in the first place, Mr. Huckabee.



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    • Author by Chameo (March 01, 2011 1:40 pm ET)
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      Huckabee responded, "I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough."


      No real surprise that Huck is troubled by what he thinks he knows -- it's nothing but lies.
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      • Author by PsychGrad (March 01, 2011 2:05 pm ET)
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        What he "knows" is - Obama is a black man. Forget that Obama is actually Bi-racial. Forget everything. Just remember that Obama is A BLACK MAN. That's all "they" need to know, it troubles them. Again, I'm embarrassed for these people, and ashamed that they are my fellow countrymen.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 3:00 pm ET)
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          I'll disagree slightly. Many right wingers think it's important to know that Obama is bi-racial. I've seen more than one try to defend their racist comments by mentioning this fact, that is " How could I have a problem, since he's half white ?"
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          • Author by Chameo (March 01, 2011 4:24 pm ET)
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            Or more to the point, how many tried to use the president's racial makeup to try to diminish what his election means for the black community -- I can't tell you how often I heard, "why do they keep saying he's black? He's not. He's half white!" Gotta wonder if those same folks would be saying the same thing if he was dating their sister.
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    • Author by The New Pilgrims (March 01, 2011 1:41 pm ET)
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      I don't know where he grew up, but it looks like Mike Huckabee currently lives in a place where it's cool to pander in racial stereotypes.
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    • Author by Aeval (March 01, 2011 1:41 pm ET)
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      Oh my, he cought the same disease as MacCain, a delusional grumby old man.
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    • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 1:43 pm ET)
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      It's a good thing I'm not a radio host. I really was trying to think of how I would respond to Huckleberry's remarks about Kenya and the the Churchill bust.

      This is a guy trying to be a serious presidential candidate, supposedly a good Christian, and he's either a flat-out liar, or completely ignorant about things that should be well known to the average citizen with basic computer research skills.

      I would probably only be able to say something like-

      " And you want to be my new latex salesman."
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      • Author by beDecent (March 01, 2011 1:46 pm ET)
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        Always love a good Seinfeld reference.
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      • Author by Imbecile (March 01, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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        Remember back in the good old days when parents used to tell their kids, "Study hard and do well in school and one day, you just might grow up to be president!"?

        Nowadays, I suppose that saying might go something like, "Avoid books and embrace insane, extremist talking points and one day, you just might grow up to be president!"
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        • Author by buckyg (March 01, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
             
          not quite, if you study hard and do well you can still become president, if you avoid books and embrace insane extremist talking points you can become a presidential "candidate". i think you make more as a candidate than as the actual president
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        • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 5:30 pm ET)
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          And get an 'opinion show' on a sleazy network where you can say anything you darn-well please.
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    • Author by JerseyTim (March 01, 2011 1:48 pm ET)
         
      "MALZBERG: Don't you think it's fair also to ask him, I know your stance on this. How come we don't have a health record, we don't have a college record, we don't have a birth cer - why Mr. Obama did you spend millions of dollars in courts all over this country to defend against having to present a birth certificate."

      This is why Steve Malzberg is far and away my favorite right-wing talk show host. It doesn't matter how inane and how obvious the lie is, he wants to believe it. Millions for
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    • Author by shaggles (March 01, 2011 1:50 pm ET)
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      Sounds like Huckabee has been listening to Limbaugh. That's almost verbatim what Limpy said a while back. Or more likely they both got the same memo from the Heritage Foundation (or some other neo-con think-tank.) It's a shame because even though I would never vote for him he actually came of as fairly moderate in the 2008 campaign. Now he seems to have gone nuts. Or he's acting nuts because that's what the right thinks sells.
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    • Author by Mr. Katanga (March 01, 2011 1:52 pm ET)
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      Man, you KNOW you are a fracking idiot when you beat out Beck for the First Header Pic on MMFA.

      Way to go, Huck
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    • Author by HughG (March 01, 2011 1:53 pm ET)
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      I saw Huckabee on Colbert the other night.
      He really doesn't look like he's been running many marathons lately. I'm just saying...
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      • Author by somnambulist (March 01, 2011 3:08 pm ET)
           
        Actually, in that interview and those in the recent past before it, he was sounding like an entirely rational and intelligent human being. I was rather impressed. ...Then he was summoned back to the FOX slaughterhouse over the weekend and immediately shamed himself.
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    • Author by cst (March 01, 2011 1:53 pm ET)
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      [Huckabee was later asked if he would bring up the issue of Obama's birth certificate during a presidential debate. Huckabee replied: "The only reason I'm not as confident that there's something about the birth certificate, Steve, is because I know the Clintons [inaudible] and believe me, they have lots of investigators out on him, and I'm convinced if there was anything that they could have found on that, they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it."]

      I think he's inadvertedly given us the only arguement that will shut down the Birthers in their tracks- "if the evil Clintons couldn't nail him, he must be pretty airtight".

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      • Author by raynfala (March 01, 2011 2:08 pm ET)
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        *Tsk* *tsk*, you're not trying hard enough to think like a Birther. In this particular case, the "logic" would be:

        "The powerful, evil Clintons couldn't dig up the dirt on him, so it just shows how adept Obama is at deceiving people."

        Now my nose is bleeding. I think I just gave myself a brain hemorrhage.
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        • Author by cst (March 01, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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          I bow to your superior grasp of wingnuttery, good sir.
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          • Author by raynfala (March 02, 2011 5:01 pm ET)
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            Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. I'd tell you to tip your waitress, but they're unionized, so to hell with 'em.

            ^_^
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        • Author by rtwmd1230 (March 01, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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          I think it's more along the lines of Obama is the Clinton's Manchurian candidate.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 01, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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          In other words, Huckabee is saying what liberals/progressives/democrats have been saying for the past 3 years regarding the birther issue: If there had been anything to prove that Barack Obama wasn't born in the U.S., someone would have uncovered it long ago. In a cutthroat situation such as that of running for president, every candidate usually has cracker jack research teams, and there is no way that one of the candidates on either side of the aisle wouldn't have exposed evidence to support the claim that Obama is not a bona fide American citizen!

          The only reasons I can think of that would explain the tenacity of the birthers is the idea that they don't understand/know that HI was a part of the U.S. in 1961 the year President Obama was born, or that they object to having a person of color in the WH so strongly that they willingly and knowingly deny all evidence that is presented which proves that he was born in HI.
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          • Author by tbone (March 01, 2011 10:06 pm ET)
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            The only reasons I can think of that would explain the tenacity of the birthers is

            You are making two mistakes: 1) you are looking for reasons, 2) you are misspelling it - it's Birchers, not Birthers. This also explains why you are making mistake 1. . . reason is not involved.
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    • Author by dkylep (March 01, 2011 1:56 pm ET)
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      So he smears Obama and then gives a backhanded slap to the Clintons as well with his whole insinuation that they're some sort of mafia-like family that has legions of investigators and snoops digging for dirt on people so they can 'use it' against them.

      Christ. How are people like this allowed to continue talking without being roundly mocked and ridiculed by society at large?! And how are they allowed to keep talking despite spreading libel and slander? Seriously.
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:59 pm ET)
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        Christ. How are people like this allowed to continue talking without being roundly mocked and ridiculed by society at large?! And how are they allowed to keep talking despite spreading libel and slander? Seriously.

        Does that tell you anything about the state of society?? Scary isn't it?
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    • Author by clams casino (March 01, 2011 1:57 pm ET)
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      I always love the "I'd like to know more about him" line. He's written two books about himself! Start there.
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      • Author by nerzog (March 01, 2011 1:59 pm ET)
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        It's just a less controversial way of calling Obama a liar.
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      • Author by PsychGrad (March 01, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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        I read his books, and they were fantastically written. He's an intelligent and insightful man. I also know, from reading his books, that he did NOT grow up in Kenya, and that he had very little contact with his father (one visit when he was a preteen).

        Of course, the doubters will say that he just lied in his books and it's this huge conspiracy to cover up his true roots and religion. You just can't reason with these people, it's so damn sad.
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      • Author by raddave43 (March 01, 2011 4:15 pm ET)
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        Well according to the citizens of wingnutsville. Obama didn't write his books, but that Bill Ayres wrote them.
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        • Author by mary59 (March 02, 2011 2:07 pm ET)
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          Some say that Bill Ayres wrote all of Glenn Beck's books. And Rev. Wright wrote Ann Coulter's tomes.
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    • Author by PsychGrad (March 01, 2011 1:58 pm ET)
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      I have no words. They did what I thought they couldn't do. They astounded me with stupidity. Wow.
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    • Author by nerzog (March 01, 2011 1:59 pm ET)
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      This would be funny if it weren't so sad. The emerging Troglodyte talking point is that, somehow, not wanting to be occupied by a foreign country is a character flaw. It was mildly amusing when Nostradumbass had Dinesh D'Suzu on to spout this nonsense, but now we have a possible Presidential candidate repeating it.

      Who makes up this crap?
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      • Author by PsychGrad (March 01, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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        They are desperately clinging to something because they don't have anything. And you're right, it is so very sad, but it is what it is. I am just hopeful that my fellow Americans can see through this fear mongering and make the right decisions come voting time. We outnumbered them once, we can do it again. I just hope that by the time the next generation is up and running that this crap is done with. As much as I like being a part of history, I am embarrassed for those on the "other" side right now, and for their future generations who will read about this nonsense in the history books.
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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        Who makes up this crap?

        I believe it comes largely from the Heritage Foundation
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      • Author by mptwain (March 01, 2011 3:49 pm ET)
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        Who makes up this crap? Roger Ailes and his propagandist network, of course.
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    • Author by epichuntarz (March 01, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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      This is how it all gets started. Some rube like Huckleberry says something like this, based upon something else some other rube (like Gingrich, Levin, etc.) said. Slowly but surely it begins to work its way into the right-wing talking points and before you know it, it'll appear as a question on the Fox and Friends chyron.

      "Obama raised in Kenya? Some people say..."
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    • Author by BobsYourUncle (March 01, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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      Wait didn't MMFA debunk the whole Winston Churchill bust story?
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      • Author by mmfa.fan (March 01, 2011 2:10 pm ET)
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        Yep. But it seems that in wingnutland if you repeat the lie often and loudly enough, the debunking gets drowned out, like it never happened.
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      • Author by marco21 (March 01, 2011 2:11 pm ET)
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        They did, but you don't think truth will stop a wingnut like Huck from BS-ing the lemmings.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 3:04 pm ET)
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        Mike Huckabee DOES NOT visit vile left wing smear sites like MMFA !!

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        • Author by CoolSlaw (March 01, 2011 6:31 pm ET)
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          Although he apparently is an expert on Kenyan politics and political attitudes. I know white southern conservatives can't get enough of those Kenyan Studies lecture series and classes.
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    • Author by sam from california (March 01, 2011 2:07 pm ET)
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      As a British person, yes the british really were that bad in Kenya. They had concentration camps for Kenyans. For anyone to say the British were NOT Imperialist in Kenya is ... just wow.

      /puke
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    • Author by Chilidog (March 01, 2011 2:09 pm ET)
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      ---"he probably grew up hearing that the British are a bunch of imperialists."---

      Well, Obama did grow up in an Irish-American household.
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    • Author by ProObamaAgenda (March 01, 2011 2:13 pm ET)
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      Well Huckabuck you can kiss your presidential aspirations goodbye after this interview, you've finally let your crocodile mouth overload your tweety bird ass....thanks for joining hands with the birthers...i cant believe you were ever a minister, you lie wayyyyyy to much to be clergy...wingnuts like you Huck are purposely sabotaging your own campaigns because you dont want to be the second white man to lose a presidential campaign to a black man but just dont have enough honor to bow out gracefully.....one by one the wingnut dominos fall........YES WE CAN
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      • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 5:54 pm ET)
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        You're kidding. He was a minister? Although... that probably just means he was even more fundamentalist than his followers.
        I've listened to his show on Fox a number of times. Scary, but then who on Fox doesn't scare you? OK, maybe I'll give Shep Smith a pass, but he's the lone wolf there, that's for sure.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (March 01, 2011 2:15 pm ET)
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      Dog-whistle Dictionary

      Few in the Corporate Controlled Media dare to touch one of the more well-fed elephants in the room - the constant cacophony of dog-whistle slogans spewed by Huckabee and those of his ilk (like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, O'Reilly).

      Here are few examples from my copy of The Dog-whistle Dictionary:

      Community Organizing - Rilin' up our NI66ERS

      He's not one of us - He's at least half NI66ER

      I'd like to know more - He's a lyin' NI66ER

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    • Author by sam from california (March 01, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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      Also, huckabee is a troll of saying he grew up in kenya, and the "only reason" not to believe the birth certificate nonsense was because of "clintonian spies"
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    • Author by Nihilist (March 01, 2011 2:22 pm ET)
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      the huckster is playing directly to his hard right base, he has no chance of the nomination, but his play will be to work the alex jones crowd. the GOP would be better served running jesse ventura. at least he is entertaining, the huckster is one of the lamest musicians i have ever heard. its like listening to pat boone sing like little richard, not good.
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    • Author by Badtime (March 01, 2011 2:25 pm ET)
         
      Good work Malzberg/Huckabee, just a few small things:

      1. He's President Obama, not Mr. Obama. Stop trying to cover your eyes and pretend hes not the president.
      2. You mean this birth certificate? Do I have to slap you in the face with it for you to believe its real?
      3. President Obama has never lived in Kenya. You are a liar.
      4. The returning of the bust wasn't an insult. It was the returning of another country's property. I don't see a problem here. Unlike Bush Jr, President Obama has this thing against keeping stuff that isn't his.
      5. Way to play to your bible-thumping audience. I applaud you for making the President of the United States out to be some Israel hating foreigner. I forgot, what is the prevailing attitude towards Jewish people over there at your network?

      Stick with your variety show and leave the news to real journalists.
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    • Author by MagCynic (March 01, 2011 2:26 pm ET)
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      I'm no fan of Huckabee, but are we sure he didn't mean Indonesia?
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      • Author by draftedin68 (March 01, 2011 2:29 pm ET)
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        Yeah, right!

        That's why he used the word at least three times.

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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 3:11 pm ET)
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          Imagine the embarrassing butt-kissing and humiliating a$$-covering Mag does if he is a fan of somebody.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (March 01, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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            Don't have to imagine,we've seen him in action with Beck.
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      • Author by pete592 (March 01, 2011 2:31 pm ET)
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        Because Indonesia was colonized by the Dutch, not the Britsh.

        HUCKABEE: "And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American."
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        • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 01, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
             
          And thank the noodly one for that!! Can't imagine the Indonesion women with big noses and bad teeth!!
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:46 pm ET)
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        Sorry, jerk, but Mr. Obama was brought up in Hawaii.

        BTW: have you ever lived in a foreign country? I will expand your world out look. That is something Flea baggers like you should look into (assuming you have a mind)
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      • Author by raddave43 (March 01, 2011 2:47 pm ET)
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        No, he meant Kenya. Indonesia was never a British Colony. So, if Huckabuck meant Indonesia, he doesn't know it's history as well.
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      • Author by pamiety (March 01, 2011 2:51 pm ET)
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        How many times do you misspeak the word Kenya? He said what he meant.
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      • Author by bintx (March 01, 2011 2:57 pm ET)
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        Except Obama only lived in Indonesia for a very short time when he was a child. Since Huckabee mentioned him growing up with his Kenyan father and grandfather, neither of whom he even KNEW (met his father ONCE when he was ten), I'm thinking Huckabee was just flat out lying, Mag.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (March 01, 2011 3:31 pm ET)
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        there's the obligatory disclaimer: I'm no fan BUT. Supposed to make mag sound more credible.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (March 01, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
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        I'm no fan of Huckabee, but are we sure he didn't mean Indonesia?


        Kudos to MagCynic for stepping up to the plate to defend the indefensible.

        I'm sure glad that you aren't a Huckabee fan, no telling what you would have said if you were.
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      • Author by The Lonewacko Blog (March 01, 2011 5:46 pm ET)
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        Congrats! You're the first person on this thread to have realized that Huck just got the country wrong. Yet, plenty of "liberals" are willing to lie and try to smear Huck as one of those dreaded "Birthers".

        Regarding the post, Eric Hananoki - someone who's repeatedly misled about the "Birther" issue - wants you to believe PolitiFact, a group that has also misled about this and other issues. In fact, the very quote Eric Hananoki offers contains two lies: O didn't release a "birth certificate" but a picture of one. A picture of something can differ from the thing itself, and you can't eat a picture of a sandwich. Plus, that picture says at the top it's not a "birth certificate". Sure, lies might make you feel good, but they tend to bite you later on.

        And, regarding those dreaded "Birthers", I've been conducting a smarts/integrity test using the Birther issue as the jumping off point for months.

        Over five months and thousands of views later, only one (1) O fan has passed the test.

        Just one "AntiBirther" got a single-question, tricky-but-fairly-easy smarts/integrity test right after thousands of them have seen it. That's not good.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (March 01, 2011 6:42 pm ET)
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          The Lonewacko Blog, that was satire right?

          So the Indonesians who were colonized by the Dutch, would feel that way about the British and Winston Churchill? - Great job of imitating the complete lack of historical knowledge, Lonewacko Blog.

          Also, it's good to hear the whole "it doesn't say Birth Certificate" argument brought up for a few good laughs. Especially since anyone who has done five minutes of actual research would know that the state of Hawaii issues a "Certificate of Live Birth".

          Throwing in some test results from some dubious test where the correct answers are based on false assumptions and fabricated evidence is a nice touch too.

          Thanks for the great satire Lonewacko Blog! You sound as desperate and ill-informed as an actual birther.

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          • Author by The Lonewacko Blog (March 01, 2011 10:53 pm ET)
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            Here's a picture of an actual Hawaii birth certificate. Note the differences between that and the picture on O's site.

            And, like the others, you have no clue about my test.
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            • Author by MidnightWriter (March 01, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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              So, a picture, of a photocopy, of a form no longer used, counts, but a picture of a form currently used, does not?

              It's worth noting that the image you showed also says, "Certificate of Live Birth;" something you suggest invalidates the Obama document.

              If you're looking for someone with no clue, take a peek in the nearest mirror.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 02, 2011 12:06 pm ET)
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                I couldn't resist checking out wacker's links, I knew they'd be good for some laughs. WorldNutDaily, I thought, would be the winner.

                Then I clicked on this link.

                Check out some of the comments there. People will work very hard to try to wrestle logic around until things seem to line up with their beliefs.
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                • Author by CoolSlaw (March 02, 2011 3:32 pm ET)
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                  This is the new conspiracy crowd we're talking about.

                  To paraphrase what I've written about them before:

                  You can take them to the forest and show them the fallen tree. You can show them multiple videos of the tree falling. You can show them hundreds of photos of the tree falling. You can bring in a hundred credible eyewitnesses with no financial or political interest in whether or not the tree fell to recount their experience. They aren't convinced.

                  Then they will point to one photo with a round black smudge on it. The photographer will quickly note it's his thumb, but the new conspiracy theorist will tell you with complete certainty that the black smudge is really the shadow of an Obama administration secret ops agent, and the photographer is an islamokenyansocialist. Now nothing will change their belief that the tree never really fell.
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            • Author by jaguarundi (March 02, 2011 3:16 am ET)
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              I know about your Right Wing Authoritarian Test which shows that you score a very respectable 135+. This also explains your minimal logic capacity and non-existent reasoning skills. Kudos again.

              You be sharp as a bowling ball birther.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 02, 2011 12:26 pm ET)
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                jag, were you kidding or did lonewacko post his results on that RWA test ?

                I know bintx and others have been linking to that for a long time here, I've never seen any indication that any of the right wingers it was suggested to read it, or took the test.

                Yoou would think they'd jump at the chance to finally get a high test score. ;0)
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                • Author by jaguarundi (March 02, 2011 2:37 pm ET)
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                  None of the predicted high RWAs are replying about Dr. Altenmeyer's study or their scores. A characteristic of the RWA personality is extreme denial of facts, illogical arguments and suspension of anything that would "disturb their world-view". It is also characteristic to refuse to look at anything posted by any of us while simultaneously demanding that we look at their RWA links. They will continue to deny anything proven to them despite overwhelming facts, often by their programmers themselves. Witness people (gman, mag . . ) continuing to defend and justify Beck after he apologizes for something he's done. It is all but impossible to enlighten them. When and if they read the study, the shear horror of what they are (and the implications) would preclude them from ever admitting that they read the information. Taking the test (and certainly distorting the results) would trigger instant denial in these individuals.
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            • Author by jonimacaroni1 (March 02, 2011 1:19 pm ET)
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              Hawaii has had multiple forms to attest to a person's birth! If you don't know that, well, then you don't know sheet!
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (March 02, 2011 3:49 pm ET)
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                jonimacaroni1,

                They don't care. They WANT to believe a lie, and the new conspiracy theorist crowd will use any scrap of slightest inconsistency and cling to it as gospel while ignoring mountains of far more credible evidence.
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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 01, 2011 7:13 pm ET)
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          You're the first person on this thread to have realized that Huck just got the country wrong.


          Three times?

          And mentioning the British is what... another wrong country.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 7:49 pm ET)
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            Wingnut "congratulations" aren't like normal people congratulations. They're handed out for failing.
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        • Author by MidnightWriter (March 01, 2011 7:18 pm ET)
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          Good lord, are you still trying to suggest we should take your "test" seriously?

          I've asked you before; just why would someone go to such ridiculous measures to execute such a mind blowingly complex fraud in the first place? To gain American citizenship? Well, unless anyone can provide proof that someone other than Ann Dunham is Obama's mother, there would be no need for that. It would be his even if he had been born on foreign soil.

          Of course, you didn't want to address that before, now did you? Nooooo! You want us to believe it's possible regardless of how ridiculous it would be. It's possible that a massive fraud has been staged by a countless number of bureaucrats in Hawaii. It's possible that the newspapers were in on it. It's possible because, well, apparently you want to believe it's possible.

          I'll say it again; you're a nitwit.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 8:11 pm ET)
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            That's quite a blog. The answer to the smarts and integrity test seems to be " a jpg image of the president's birth certificate", but I'm sure the genius behind the test would only accept " a picture of the certificate of live birth".

            I doubt it would be a black mark on anybody's permanent record to have failed wacko's "challenge".
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            • Author by MidnightWriter (March 01, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
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              It ranks right up there with saying we didn't see men walk on the moon. We only saw televised images of what we were told were men walking on the moon. Ergo, we have reason to doubt the entire NASA program.

              Again I'll say, he's a nitwit.
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            • Author by The Lonewacko Blog (March 01, 2011 10:49 pm ET)
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              Andy Kreiss failed the smarts/integrity test. Does anyone know whether "Andy Kreiss" is a fake name or not? Is this Andy Kreiss/"Andy Kreiss" a known person that I should bother adding to my list of those who've failed the test?
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              • Author by grmce (March 02, 2011 12:07 am ET)
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                Is this Andy Kreiss/"Andy Kreiss" a known person that I should bother adding to my list of those who've failed the test?
                Go back to your Mikado rehearsals Koko!
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 02, 2011 1:45 am ET)
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                Thanks, lonelywacker. As I said, failing your smarts/integrity test will be worn as a badge of honor.

                Because it actually is a jpeg image of the president's birth certificate. If you're dim-witted enough to think that answer is wrong, then please add me to your list.

                If you have a list of people that don't know that the president grew up in Kenya, you can add me to that list too.

                If you have any other lists you're making made up of people who aren't as stupid as you are, feel free to add me to those. Feel free to add almost everybody on the planet, while you're at it.
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                • Author by jonimacaroni1 (March 02, 2011 1:24 pm ET)
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                  Some people have actually touched the COLB. We don't just have a photo of it.

                  Obama doesn't have to send every American who requests one a physical copy of the COLB! A few responsible and credible people have seen and touched the actual piece of paper.
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                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 02, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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                    But it's not just that birthers don't think people haven't actually seen it, or touched it. They add another crazy line of defense in thinking that the COLB is some sort of phony substitute for a "long form birth certificate", some sort of fraud.

                    The COLB is all I have, all I've ever had, and all I've ever needed in my entire life. It is my birth certificate.
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          • Author by The Lonewacko Blog (March 01, 2011 10:51 pm ET)
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            You completely fail to understand my point. Find a law professor, lawyer, or someone smarter than you (by which I mean, much smarter than you) to explain what I'm getting at to you.
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            • Author by MidnightWriter (March 01, 2011 11:07 pm ET)
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              Oh, I get the point you're trying to make. You wish to prove to yourself just how "smart" you are and you have set up you own little game with your unique set of ground rules to ensure that you "win."

              And you, of course, have again completely failed to answer the question I've leveled at you; just why would anyone go to such ridiculous lengths in the first place? What would they have to gain?
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 02, 2011 1:59 am ET)
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                You completely fail to understand my point.


                Translation: Hey, everybody at Freerepublic fell for my stupid trick, why don't you guys ! **pout**
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                • Author by mary59 (March 02, 2011 6:53 pm ET)
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                  lone wacko must be feeling lonely. Perhaps his blog companions don't provide enough stimulation, so he got an urge to regurgitate his bull pucky here once again.
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            • Author by Unreality (March 02, 2011 3:27 am ET)
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              Lonewacko,

              Here's a question to add to your test:

              Why did George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, and the 9 members of the Supreme Court, 435 members of the US House, 98 members of the US Senate, (excluding Biden and Obama, of course) all of whom swore an oath to protect and defend the constitution, allow Obama to appear on the ballot, be elected and sworn in?

              a) Obama had compromising pictures of all of them
              b) Obama sent hookers to C Street where they infected everyone with a disease for which only Obama had the antidote,
              c) the entire US government had been replaced by pod people between 2006 and 2008
              d) Obama is a US citizen born in Hawaii in 1961

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              • Author by bilbo_dies (March 02, 2011 1:58 pm ET)
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                a) Obama had compromising pictures of all of them
                b) Obama sent hookers to C Street where they infected everyone with a disease for which only Obama had the antidote,
                c) the entire US government had been replaced by pod people between 2006 and 2008
                d) Obama is a US citizen born in Hawaii in 1961


                a) Duh, search the intertubes and you will find them posted on their Facebook page. (Hey, look at me!)
                b) Normally you only need to send them hookers to get them in your pocket. Infecting them with disease is what the CIA does.
                c) No, the government was replaced with pod people in 1981 when Rayguns was elected to office.
                d) Not if you don't like Dems, blacks, or people in general.

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            • Author by grmce (March 02, 2011 4:38 am ET)
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              Find a law professor, lawyer, or someone smarter than you (by which I mean, much smarter than you)
              Listen The, I know a few law professors, I know a shedload of lawyers - I even know a few judges. I also know a few senior public servants who have to make decisions regarding proof of identity including place of origin and am considered to have a sharper than average legal mind myself.

              Put simply, I have a paving stone outside my back door that has a sharper intellect than you have displayed on this site.
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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (March 01, 2011 5:49 pm ET)
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        I'm no fan of Huckabee, but are we sure he didn't mean Indonesia?

        Get real! Pandering to the right-wing nuts is a requirement for ALL Republicans, so NO, Huckabee knew exactly what he was saying.

        The question that Republican don't seem to understand is what happens in the general election where there are more common sense, intelligent people than there are right-wing loonies.
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      • Author by free bird (March 01, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
           
        I'm guessing you didn't read the article? If he just got the country wrong, then he got history wrong. IE if he misspoke, as he said, then he doesn't realize that Indonesia was never a British colony, or that the Mau Mau revolution didn't happen there. If he mistakenly thought Obama actually was raised in Kenya, then his argument that the "rest of America" thinks differently about British imperialism is rather hamfisted and misguided, since America went to war in order to NOT be a British colony. I'm not even gonna go into what actually happened in Kenya, but other commentators have.

        I'll bet he just didn't do the basic fact checking and carelessly pandered to what this right wing radio audience wanted to hear by jumping on the anti-Obama bandwagon. That's unfortunate, since in the same interview he criticized his fellow conservatives for trashing Michelle's Let's Move campaign on principle.
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      • Author by yoiksaway (March 01, 2011 7:06 pm ET)
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        "I'm no fan of Huckabee, but are we sure he didn't mean Indonesia?"--MagCynic

        Hey, why did you drop your first steamer so far down in the thread, slacker? You're almost an hour late.

        Anyway, I have to go yawn. Aloha!
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 03, 2011 5:32 pm ET)
           
        I'm no fan of Huckabee, but are we sure he didn't mean Indonesia?
        Yes, we are. He talked about the Mau Mau Uprising. That is well known, even (especially) in the South, to have taken place in Africa. In a precurser to Glenn Beck's constant warnings of the violence of the Left, civil rights demonstrators were called (among other things) Mau Maus, by Southern racists. If the Huckster doesn't know this he's so ignorant he shouldn't be allowed out of the house without adult supervision.
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    • Author by canaanxing9025 (March 01, 2011 2:39 pm ET)
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      Fox Lies.
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    • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
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      Huckabee: Obama Grew Up "In Kenya".

      OMG are we back to that?
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    • Author by wesley_fpt (March 01, 2011 2:43 pm ET)
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      Wow..Huckabee was one of the fox d-bags who tried to say Obama's India trip cost 200mil a day and now this. He's more of a piece of sh!t than I thought.
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:49 pm ET)
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        I am very proud to be a Christian. A liberal Christian that is. This guy and is kind tear down the church and undo so much that is good by using religion as a masquerade for crazy politics.

        Huckabee, Shame on you!!!
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    • Author by dhertzfe (March 01, 2011 2:47 pm ET)
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      Does Rev.(?) Huckabee not know about the "Thou shall not bear false witness" thing in the Bible? Or has that commandment being ignored for convenience?

      A lie is a lie. Whether its partial, clipped or reworded.
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 01, 2011 2:50 pm ET)
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        Does Rev.(?) Huckabee not know about the "Thou shall not bear false witness" thing in the Bible?

        His kind use only the parts that further their radical agenda.I could give may examples.
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      • Author by BlackMako (March 01, 2011 3:18 pm ET)
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        Two flaws here.

        1.) You're assuming that any Christian knows anything at all about the bible or religion.

        2.) You're assuming that Huckabee would say anything that is not on his Murdoch approved script.
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    • Author by bintx (March 01, 2011 2:55 pm ET)
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      But, he didn't grow up in Kenya. He met his father ONCE when he was a young boy and never met his Kenyan grandfather at ALL.

      Huckabee is supposed to be a Bible-believing Christian . . . a literalist. This whole piece is one big OLD sin!

      What a tool.
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    • Author by kabniel (March 01, 2011 3:06 pm ET)
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      So exactly what is the point of telling such a bone ignorant and easily disproven lie?
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (March 01, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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        Fox pays well for them, and the Fox audience doesn't care.
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      • Author by bootyprof (March 01, 2011 3:19 pm ET)
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        This is strange only because it is soooooo blatantly false and misleading! Huckabee just lost any support from moderates and independents and other "thinking" Americans! I don't understand what he was trying to do here from a strategic standpoint... Everything these people are doing appears to be about securing the far right-wing base?!
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        • Author by Unreality (March 02, 2011 3:32 am ET)
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          The answer is counter intuitive:

          What he succeeded in doing is interesting: He assured himself a meal ticket on FauxNoise as well as numerous pundit and paid speaking gigs with the TP crowd, but doesn't have to run for president to keep it.
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    • Author by Iceburg Slim (March 01, 2011 3:25 pm ET)
         
      Huckabee has just proven to me that he is not a Christian. He claims that he is but he is not, I don not take him at his word. he just violated, knowingly mind you, one of the primary tenants of christianity; 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor', therefore, I believe that he is agnostic.
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    • Author by txthinker (March 01, 2011 3:33 pm ET)
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      Huckabee: Obama Grew Up "In Kenya"
      Seeing that Huckabee is a former Baptist minister, it's funny that he's completely ignored that pesky little commandment about "bearing false witness".....
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 01, 2011 3:45 pm ET)
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      Huckabee may call himself a Christian and a minister, but I beg to differ. I am both a liberal and a Democrat, and I read and study my Bible daily so that I can remain true to its words.

      Here's what Paul says in 2 Corinthians 11:13-15---Good News Bible---Today's English Version about people like Huckabee and others on the right who work hard to portray themselves as followers of Christ, but are really working to advance themselves

      (13) Those men are not true apostles---they are false apostles, who lie about their work and disguise themselves to look like real apostles of Christ.

      (14) Well, no wonder! Even Satan can disguise himself to look like an angel of light!

      (15) So it is no great thing if his servants disguise themselves to look like servants of righteousness. In the end they will get exactly what their actions deserve.

      Those that follow Huckabee and the others on the right, believe every word they say, and believe that they are Christians need to be very careful about doing this because these folks can cause them to lose their souls. If they read their Bible, they'll easily be able to see that if these people lie, create conspiracies, and/or display hypocritical behavior, they are nothing like Jesus Christ who didn't do any of these things. Christians don't follow men. They follow Christ.

      If Huckabee were a Christian, he would never construct and push lies like this one about President Obama, or anyone. He knows deep inside himself that he doesn't have a viable platform on which to run for president in 2012, so he resorts to bearing false witness to promote his own agenda.
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      • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 5:40 pm ET)
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        I don't need the Bible to know that most of this type (Huckabee, Palin, Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity and most of the current GOP and TP ... the list goes on) are in no way "Christian". That is what made the Beck/Palin Rally theme of Faith Hope and Charity such a farce. They are in fact the LEAST charitable people of such public stature. Charity does not mean 'how much you donate', it is having a charitable spirit: kind in heart and thought.
        I see no evidence of this.
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      • Author by WestMassman (March 02, 2011 12:44 pm ET)
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        Huckabee may call himself a Christian and a minister, but I beg to differ. I am both a liberal and a Democrat, and I read and study my Bible daily so that I can remain true to its words.


        Thank you for your post. The Wingnuts think they own Christianity, much to our faith's detriment. The false Christians may be a bunch of left over medieval bigots, but that does not define Christianity or a Christian. The truth is quite opposite of them.

        It is time they had a reality check on something.

        Please count 3 more thumbs up for the post
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    • Author by Ratu01 (March 01, 2011 3:46 pm ET)
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      Huckabee hates the Police amd this country, I know this becos he released a crimiinal who went onto murder police Officers.
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      • Author by renato (March 01, 2011 5:06 pm ET)
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        MAURICE CLEMMONS

        He also helped free WAYNE DUMOND to pander to anti-Clinton wackjobs. DuMond went on to rape and murder two Missouri women.

        MAURICE CLEMMONS
        WAYNE DUMOND

        bring these names up anytime someone tries to say something favorable about Huckabee.
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    • Author by Iceguy (March 01, 2011 3:47 pm ET)
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      Wantabee: Real Americans do not care if Obama Grew Up "On the Moon" he won the vote and is our PRESIDENT (2 years only); that is something you will NEVER EVER be so go back to your drama show on The Fake News "Reality Show" Channel.
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    • Author by mptwain (March 01, 2011 3:48 pm ET)
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      Yet another Fox News moron/Republican nominee repeats the meme of that pathetic excuse of a network.

      This should not be surprising to anyone.
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    • Author by Jurgan (March 01, 2011 3:55 pm ET)
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      Eh, Kenya, Indonesia, whatever. They're brown people, right? Pretty much all the same- not real 'murrikans.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (March 01, 2011 4:12 pm ET)
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      their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British are a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

      OK... putting aside all this abusrd and irrelevent nonsense about Obama being a Kenyan, why is it that in the minds of these right wingers, teh US is the only country that allowed to celebrate it's revolution and eventual freedom? Why were we so different from any other British (or any other country's) colony? Becuase we were originally Brittish ourselves? The Kenyans threw off British Oppression?! Oh my effing gawd! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID!!!

      The only difference was that we were actually BRITISH SUBJECTS while THEY were concored! SO actually, they're the ones who heroically fought for their freedom! And truth be told? We were a bunch of traitors!

      ---------------------------------
      What the hell is wrong with these people?!

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    • Author by PBVV (March 01, 2011 4:16 pm ET)
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      FOX will have him on later today asking him about some current earth shaking events taking place across the globe right now and as a side note willask him about his earlier comments today about Obama which will allow him to correct all of his "mistaken recall" of some obscure right wing "news article" he read 2 or 3 years ago which he does "not recall the tiltle or author of" right off hand.....

      Message: Governor Huckabee is a busy man with more important current issues on his mind--he just mis-spoke a bit. All foxed now.
      Er....um.... fixed now that is.
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    • Author by PBVV (March 01, 2011 4:34 pm ET)
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      The Inevitable "Huckabee Misspoke Defense" won't cut it again...

      AP Article:
      A Huckabee adviser did not have an immediate explanation for Huckabee's comments to WOR
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 01, 2011 7:21 pm ET)
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        I wandered over to the Daily Dish to read what Andrew Sullivan had to say about Huckabee, and he's not buying Huckabee's retraction, either, and neither am I. Huckabee was pandering to the far rw birthers, and there's no way that I'm going to believe that he didn't do it in an attempt to garner their potential votes in 2012. He's not as slick as he thinks he is, and we're not as foolish/stupid as he thinks we are. IMHO, he would have come across as being more honorable had he told the truth. As a man of God, one would think that not bearing false witness would be something he'd keep in mind at all times. I guess he didn't think the media was paying attention, hence, the unsaleable, and thoroughly unbelievable, retraction.
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    • Author by danisme (March 01, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
         
      As a conservative....I really wish Huckabee would just go away.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 01, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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      Mike Huckabee wins the first round of the fox news bonus campaign money contest..............
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    • Author by sethc (March 01, 2011 4:56 pm ET)
         
      I was told by a British fellow who worked for me that the sun never set on the British Empire because even God didn't trust the bastards in the dark.
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    • Author by What Happens When The Oil Is Gone (March 01, 2011 6:01 pm ET)
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      Hi!!!!
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    • Author by Space-Pedestrian (March 01, 2011 6:18 pm ET)
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      Wow, way to self-destruct, Huck. He won't live that one down.
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      • Author by as promised (March 01, 2011 7:12 pm ET)
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        We can only hope. Everyone else seemingly gets away with it.
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    • Author by boulderhippy (March 01, 2011 6:43 pm ET)
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      Huck probably would rather have had the president raised in Kenya raather than Indonesia where he was raised.
      Kenya is mostly Christian whereas Indonesia is mostly Islamic.
      Which is it Huck, Christians or Muslims?
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      • Author by renato (March 01, 2011 6:47 pm ET)
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        Kenyans are not 'real' Christians. They are mud Christians.
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      • Author by raddave43 (March 02, 2011 10:59 am ET)
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        I grew up in Alabama which is mostly Southern Baptist, does that make me one?
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        • Author by MiniTru (March 02, 2011 1:32 pm ET)
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          If someone lives in a garage, does that mean they're a car?
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          • Author by bilbo_dies (March 02, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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            If someone lives in a garage, does that mean they're a car?


            Usually it means they are homeless and are sneaking into the garage at night to get out of the weather.

            Thank gosh for the Repubs working on destroying the American social safety net.
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      • Author by MiniTru (March 02, 2011 1:34 pm ET)
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        Huck probably would rather have had the president raised in Kenya raather (sic) than Indonesia where he was raised.
        You obviously mean "raather" than Hawaii where he was actually raised.
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    • Author by dmn (March 01, 2011 6:51 pm ET)
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      Glad to see Gomer Huckabee reminding everyone that he's a wingnut jackass in Mister Roger's clothes.
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    • Author by blesscurse (March 01, 2011 7:55 pm ET)
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      Huckabee read somewhere that Newt Gingrich is an "intellectual," and wanted to prove his own "intellectual" mettle by similarly dabbling in Dinesh D'Souza's halluncinatory falsehoods about Obama.
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    • Author by phredicles (March 01, 2011 8:32 pm ET)
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      I'd love to know more about Hucklenuts' crackpot religion. What I know is troubling enough.
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    • Author by SoCalGuy (March 01, 2011 9:51 pm ET)
         
      Interesting, this totally contradicts what he said on Politico just the other day - I suppose consistency is too much to ask of him:

      http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/50305.html

      "On the so-called birther issue, Huckabee described doubts over the president’s citizenship as an “obsession” and a “waste of time.”"
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    • Author by HenHouse (March 01, 2011 10:39 pm ET)
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      do any commandments apply to lying about our President while coveting his job.
      very christian of you preacherman.
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    • Author by doggeddem (March 01, 2011 11:27 pm ET)
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      Didn't we just get through having a moron in the WH for eight years? And now this dimwit wants to become the CIC in 2012? No wonder the teabaggers are so excited they are sheep who love having the fool pulled over their eyes.
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    • Author by grmce (March 01, 2011 11:33 pm ET)
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      A quick note to Trite Muckforfee: Upon gaining independence from the U.K. Kenya became a member of what was then called The British Commonwealth, now The Commonwealth of Nations. They even have a team in the Cricket World Cup for gossakes!

      Where does some dopey Seppo get off accusing Kenya of being anti-British? Why aren't you in The Commonwealth like the rest of former members of The British Empire? Who do you think you are? Burma? You don't even play cricket. You play that funny version of the schoolgirls' game rounders!

      What a pestilential gobshite!
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      • Author by CaseyJones (March 02, 2011 1:03 am ET)
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        This is just Heritage Foundation agitprop. Expect to hear this nonsense from now until November, 2012.
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    • Author by Unreality (March 02, 2011 2:52 am ET)
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      "What I know is troubling enough."

      I think what he meant to say was, "What I don't know is troubling enough."

      What's amazing to me is that not only did he not have clue 1, but he doubled down and then quadrupled down (is that possible?) by invoking the British empire and Obama's father teaching him.
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    • Author by Jargonsays (March 02, 2011 10:39 am ET)
         
      Huckabee: "I would love to know more about this man...(Obama). What I know is troubling enough". You obviously don't know anything Mike!! What a farce. I would like to be civil but this is complete nonsense since he obviously has never invested an ounce of his energy to read publicly available material. This is obviously all about spreading a false narrative (a myth) over Obama that most conservative listeners will never question because thats what they want to believe. I have zero respect for this man.
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    • Author by doggeddem (March 02, 2011 11:31 am ET)
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      Huckabee has just proven he can't run a faucet, let alone the U.S. presidency.
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    • Author by urlnts (March 02, 2011 2:38 pm ET)
         
      This is Huckabuck at his Republican , race baiting best,he's not only a Faux"news" ,Faux Christian bigot but he's dumb as a "rope",if the British were not Imperialists then what was the American Revolution about Huckster?
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    • Author by urlnts (March 02, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
         
      I have posted for some time but get this message ,"you have not posted enough"?I know I'm not posting like some 24/7 BUT ,when is enough enough,how do you have any type of conversation while waiting for 2 days to see your post???????
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    • Author by freeness (March 02, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
         
      Prince Alwaleed bin Talal al-Saud of Saudi Arabia, through his Kingdom Holding Company, owns 7% of News Corp.'s shares, making Kingdom Holdings the second largest shareholder.

      www.teleco4.com
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    • Author by dtnave (March 02, 2011 6:24 pm ET)
         
      Mike Huckabee is supposedly an Ordained Minister. A man of the cloth, as they say.
      Perhaps, he needs to review the 10 commandments. The one that says, "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness." He knows he's lying. If he does this with Obama's origins, what would he lie about if he became President?
      He is just another hot air bag. And, by the way, the bag is gaining weight.
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    • Author by Romario (March 02, 2011 10:56 pm ET)
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      These tired old a$$ white dudes need to get some new material...this line of attack did not work in 2007, it damn sure won't work NOW after he's been President for a few years.
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    • Author by samforsyth (March 03, 2011 9:45 am ET)
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      He says he meant to say "indonesia" and that it was just a slip of the tongue. OK, I can buy that you might have misspoke, everyone does now and then...

      So let's just put the correct word in its context:

      "then if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Indonesia with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather."

      doesn't make sense:
      -what influence would Indonesia have on Obama's view of the Mau Mau Revolution?
      -what's also not talked about is that he states he "grew up" with a Kenyan father... he only met his father one time...

      Someone needs to call him out on this during an interview... his entire context makes sense with him saying KENYA, not indonesia.

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    • Author by rikntx (March 03, 2011 3:33 pm ET)
         
      I feel we all know and understand the real reason British imperialism was/is acceptable to some folks in this day and age, as long as it involved their African and Asian colonies, while those same folks loudly and proudly celebrate the American colony's fight to obtain their freedom from those same British. Right?
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