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Huckabee Attacks Natalie Portman For Glamorizing "Out Of Wedlock Births"

March 03, 2011 5:41 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

In a radio appearance on Monday, Mike Huckabee attacked actress Natalie Portman for having a child "out of wedlock." Huckabee said that it's "troubling" to see people like "Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, 'Hey look, you know, we're having children, we're not married, but we're having these children, and they're doing just fine.'" Huckabee added that "it's unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock."  

Huckabee's remarks came in response to radio host Michael Medved, who discussed Portman's Academy Awards speech last Sunday. During her speech, Portman thanked fiancé Benjamin Millepied, "who choreographed the film, and has now given me my most important role of my life." Medved said that Millepied "didn't give her the most wonderful gift, which would be a wedding ring! And it just seems to me that sending that kind of message is problematic."

From the February 28 edition of Salem Radio's The Michael Medved Show:

MEDVED: Governor, I know you probably are out on book tour right now, you probably didn't have a chance to watch the Academy Awards last night?

HUCKABEE: I'm very happy to say that I missed it because usually it's about the most boring waste of several hours that I've ever experienced.

MEDVED: Well this was a - this was a low audience. However, there was - there was one moment where a very brilliant and admirable actress named Natalie Portman won Best Actress, and she won for a movie which I loathed called Black Swan. But in any event, she got up, she was very visibly pregnant, and it's really it's a problem because she's about seven months pregnant, it's her first pregnancy, and she and the baby's father aren't married, and before two billion people, Natalie Portman says, 'Oh I want to thank my love and he's given me the most wonderful gift.' He didn't give her the most wonderful gift, which would be a wedding ring! And it just seems to me that sending that kind of message is problematic.

HUCKABEE: You know Michael, one of the things that's troubling is that people see a Natalie Portman or some other Hollywood starlet who boasts of, 'Hey look, you know, we're having children, we're not married, but we're having these children, and they're doing just fine.' But there aren't really a lot of single moms out there who are making millions of dollars every year for being in a movie. And I think it gives a distorted image that yes, not everybody hires nannies, and caretakers, and nurses. Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can't get a job, and if it weren't for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that's the story that we're not seeing, and it's unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock.

You know, right now, 75 percent of black kids in this country are born out of wedlock. 61 percent of Hispanic kids -- across the board, 41 percent of all live births in America are out of wedlock births. And the cost of that is simply staggering.

MEDVED: It's tremendously staggering.

Huckabee is a host for the Fox News Channel, and a potential presidential candidate. Portman's Black Swan is distributed by News Corp.'s Fox Searchlight.

In the early 1990s, then-Vice President Dan Quayle "ignited a firestorm of controversy when he criticized Murphy Brown, the powerful, intelligent character in an eponymous sitcom, for having a child out of wedlock -- and without any father in the picture whatsoever." 

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    • Author by Johaely (March 03, 2011 5:46 pm ET)
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      What the hell happened to Huckabee? Before he was a somewhat reasonable fundie-type christian. Now he is going the Palin/O'rilley/Bozell route of saying sutpid, sanctimonous idiocy.
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      • Author by Semprini (March 03, 2011 5:50 pm ET)
           
        I think he's been saying these things all along, but has just been out-shined by the louder mouths. These things he's saying are well within character for him.
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      • Author by draftedin68 (March 03, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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        He's been listening to Frank Luntz.

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        • Author by rkcomments (March 05, 2011 2:57 pm ET)
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          Looks like Luntz and Huckabee have been frequenting the same all-you-can-eat establishments lately.
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      • Author by mk3872 (March 03, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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        it's called "running for the GOP nomination" circa 2012
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        • Author by indigo1968 (March 03, 2011 7:10 pm ET)
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          Jonathan Alter made an interesting comment on MSNBC today when he claimed that Huck is unlikely to run for POTUS as he just bought an expensive Florida home with his Fox paycheck, and would have problems paying his mortgage without it.

          Perhaps Huckabee is already running for a VP slot on somebody's 2012 ticket by demonstrating he can fluently speak crazy to the GOP's Glenn Beck wing.

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        • Author by ccreadme (March 04, 2011 2:18 pm ET)
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          It is the 100 yard dash to the far right edge and the end game is a sprint to the middle hoping you don't trip going either way. Huck has already fallen, so has Palin. Newt will fall next. Romney cannot beat President Obama, but he is the likely GOP candidate.
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          • Author by iglou (March 04, 2011 7:53 pm ET)
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            And Ron Paul is not-electable by GOP standards. It's a strange world.
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      • Author by wesley_fpt (March 03, 2011 9:09 pm ET)
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        Really Huck? Natalie Portman? You just attacked a girl who could place in the top 5 of a "most adorable girl on the planet" contest. Tomorrow he'll probably give a sermon on how much he hates puppies.
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      • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 9:21 am ET)
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        Before he was a somewhat reasonable fundie-type christian.


        You do realize that sentence is completely nonsensical. "Reasonable... christian"? Makes no sense, has no meaning. Completely nonsensical. Faith is the total rejection of reason, it is the willful suspension of disbelief. It is insanity.
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        • Author by kabniel (March 06, 2011 5:14 pm ET)
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          blackmako

          This is not really true. Faith is the acceptance that there are things we do not know and perhaps cannot know and the belief those things are a certain way. The Dalai Lama was once asked what he would do if they proved scientifically that re-incarnation did not happen. He said we would stop teaching it immediatly. See it is not a rejection of rationality however it is the ability to believe some things we dont know follow a path we BELIEVE is true and best. Prove to me I am wrong and I will be greatful until then your opinion is no better than mine

          Many, especially conservatives, believe people are basically evil. I refuse to accept this. I have FAITH the people are basically good not because evidence shows this but because I cannot accept a world where this is not true, because it would make life so tawdry and ugly were it is not true. If PROOF was given that in general people ARE evil I would have to accept it but FAITH is saying until you cough that proof up I will continue to believe people are basically good
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      • Author by j238 (March 04, 2011 9:28 am ET)
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        Somewhat responsible ?

        Please click here if you believe that for one second.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 04, 2011 5:28 pm ET)
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        Before he was a somewhat reasonable fundie-type christian
        I strongly disagree. Anyone who says, as I heard him howl over a year ago, that our laws should be based on the, "unchanging word of God," is not what I would call reasonable. I would call that religious fanaticism of the sort that the framers of the Constitution intentionally sought to prevent.
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    • Author by jason10006 (March 03, 2011 5:54 pm ET)
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      They are engaged...ummmm....what is the problem?
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      • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 6:40 pm ET)
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        Out of wedlock births should not be glamorized.
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        • Author by worrierking (March 03, 2011 6:48 pm ET)
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          And why not?

          With so many marriages ending in divorce, it seems that marriage isn't working for half the population. Who the f_ck are you to be preaching to Natalie Portman?
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          • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 7:29 pm ET)
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            You have no moral compass, go home and marry your dog for all I care. I don't claim to be perfect but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong.
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            • Author by worrierking (March 03, 2011 7:36 pm ET)
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              "...but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong."

              And glad to point it out in other people.
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            • Author by loonz (March 03, 2011 7:51 pm ET)
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              You have your own moral compass that you follow and other people have their own moral compass which they follow. Also, why won't you and other conservatives mind your own business?
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              • Author by worrierking (March 03, 2011 8:04 pm ET)
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                Why is CenterRight's moral compass always peeking into other people's bedrooms?
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                • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 8:10 pm ET)
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                  "A'cause Gawd will dee-stroy us like Sodom and Gommorah if we-all don't make sure all them-thur lib'rul heatherns bee-have themselves, that-thur's why!"...

                  Wow, that was tiring--I need an energy drink...
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                • Author by wesley_fpt (March 03, 2011 9:18 pm ET)
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                  I know right..isn't it awesome when d-bag right wingers lecture everyone on their superior moral compasses and their insights on the differences between right and wrong as it pertains to Natalie Portman's children? lol God how pathetic.
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              • Author by crazymonkeylady (March 03, 2011 10:02 pm ET)
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                Yea, Huckabee, keep your nose out of everyone's bedroom, you pervert!
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            • Author by my4cents (March 03, 2011 8:20 pm ET)
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              Can divorces be vilified?
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            • Author by The_Cat (March 03, 2011 8:26 pm ET)
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              Here's what my moral compass has to say:
              Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

              Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

              Matthew 7:3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

              Matthew 7:4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

              Matthew 7:5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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              • Author by The_Cat (March 03, 2011 8:37 pm ET)
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                Oh, and this:
                Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

                Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

                Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
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                  • Author by eweston8542983 (March 03, 2011 10:27 pm ET)
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                    Well my knuckles suddenly turned white.

                    Proof positive!

                    May the Flying Spaghetti Monster forgive me.
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                  • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:47 pm ET)
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                    How is somebody quoting the words of Jesus Christ a "God-hater?" I assume you would never say this to a conservative who (frequently) misquotes from The Bible.

                    Maybe you should practice humility, but you seem to think you have the right to attack other followers of Christ because they don't share your politics.
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                  • Author by The_Cat (March 03, 2011 10:48 pm ET)
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                    I'm a Christian, forthright. Not a saint, just an average ordinary everyday sinner, doing the best he can.
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                  • Author by loonz (March 04, 2011 6:16 am ET)
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                    How could we hate something that's imaginary?
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                  • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 9:32 am ET)
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                    I don't hate god, but if there was a god and I didn't hate him then ethically, I would rank somewhere beneath child molesters.
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                  • Author by bintx (March 04, 2011 10:01 am ET)
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                    Wow, forthright, I'm a Christian and your condemnation of God's word in your post is pretty close to blasphemy. There was NOTHING skewed in those verses. Open your Bible and try reading it.
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                  • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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                    It's amazing that you God-haters actually attempt to quote your skewed scripture.


                    So, directly quoting scripture, in context, is skewed?

                    Please explain your position. I am honestly curious.
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                  • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:12 pm ET)
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                    It is amazing your incredibly IGNORANT brianwashe liars do not die of shame for the stupidity, hatred, and LIES you tell constantly.
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            • Author by The_Cat (March 03, 2011 8:39 pm ET)
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              You have no moral compass, go home and marry your dog for all I care. I don't claim to be perfect but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong.

              What is it with people marrying animals? Why is that the last sign of the Apocalypse? Didn't O'Reilly say something about people marrying ducks? Ducks?! I just don't get this.
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              • Author by papa bear3 (March 03, 2011 9:22 pm ET)
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                . . .according to Billy Crystal the duck is is the most humorous of all animals, just the name 'duck' brings a smile to many peoples faces, go figure
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              • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 10:17 pm ET)
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                It sounds like he's just saying: "I don't care". Another attempt by a desperate liberal to pick out a syllable and twist it out of context.

                Don't you have anything better to do?
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                • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:48 pm ET)
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                  Wow, I didn't know an exact quote now translates to "out of context."

                  Looks like you're desperate to defend fools.
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                • Author by The_Cat (March 03, 2011 10:55 pm ET)
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                  I actually provided the context, emphasizing the portion with which I had contention in bold. Seems easy enough to understand this, does it not?

                  It may sound like he just saying 'I don't care', but he didn't just say that, did he? Why bring people marrying animals into it at all? This is what I do not understand.
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                  • Author by iglou (March 04, 2011 8:04 pm ET)
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                    The only way forthright could have known what centerright meant was if they were the same person. Which I suspect at this point.
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                • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 7:53 am ET)
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                  Sure, instead of typing three short words, "I don't care", you fellow "Christian" typed three lines.

                  Anytime someone like you, or your friend, tries that moral superiority game, all it does is make you look small.


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                  • Author by princeofwheels (March 04, 2011 11:01 am ET)
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                    Haven't read any further but isn't that ex-governor of Alaskas' kid making money off of her teen pregnancy. Ms. Portman is a grown, responsible woman, who has the means of raising a child and made an adult decision.

                    Rev. Huckabee, you can now raise the flag of Phony Christianity in front of your home.

                    P.S. Cuckabee, to do whast you as doing for money is sad. And you, sir, are a sad man.
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                  • Author by iglou (March 04, 2011 8:07 pm ET)
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                    Actually, Cat pointed out what was with "marry your dog" to which forthright said it meant "I don't care". I had to re-read it a few times but it's the most unintentional funny a troll has done here for a while.

                    I know it's not what s/he meant but they didn't reply very coherently.
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                • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:14 pm ET)
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                  So do you actually know what the words out of context mean or are you just a liar?
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            • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
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              Please explain to me what is "wrong" about having a kid while not being married. It's been my experience that those who preach loudest about morality seem to be the most unethical people. Project much?
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              • Author by CenterRight (March 04, 2011 11:40 pm ET)
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                Please explain to me what's wrong with having morals.
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                • Author by WildcatProgressive (March 05, 2011 11:12 am ET)
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                  What's wrong is your constant need to project your "morals" onto others, instead of, say, accepting that different people will have different beliefs, and simply disagreeing with you does not = "no/bad morals".

                  But what fun would that be, right? Much more entertaining to say, "You're a conservative, and those beliefs are evil. If beliefs are evil, the people that have them are evil, too. You know who else was evil? Hitler. Why are you like Hitler, Center Right?"

                  OK, granted, that IS more entertaining, but it does not make it right.
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                • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 05, 2011 1:30 pm ET)
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                  So tell me, o sage, do you have any morals at all that aren't directly connected to sexuality? You know, like lying or stealing or killing? Because it seems to me that the only time the words "morals" or "morality" comes up, it's in connection to sex. UnCentered...
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                • Author by ilikeike (March 05, 2011 2:06 pm ET)
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                  you sense of morals is pretty skewed when you think 2 stable adults shouldnt bring a child into a loving home just because they didnt get a state sanctioned marraige certificate. but hey, i bet you think preventive warfare is okey dokey with your god
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                • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:15 pm ET)
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                  Please explain to me who told you that YOU were the arbiter of what morality is
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            • Author by allanbrauer (March 04, 2011 3:09 am ET)
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              The Huckabee Klan doesn't marry dogs.

              They hang them, slit their throats and stone them to death.
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            • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 9:25 am ET)
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              You have no moral compass, go home and marry your dog for all I care. I don't claim to be perfect but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong.
              Perhaps the moral compass offered by the bible is not the only valid moral compass. Perhaps the moral compass in the bible is wrong, or broken. Perhaps some of us are not stupid or EVIL enough to follow the moral compass offered by the bible and live every day specifically trying to head in the opposite direction from where that moral compass leads.
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            • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:17 am ET)
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              You have no moral compass, go home and marry your dog for all I care. I don't claim to be perfect but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong.


              Where in this are the answers to worriekings questions?
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            • Author by cst (March 04, 2011 11:32 am ET)
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              [I don't claim to be perfect but can at least recognize the difference between right and wrong.]

              So I assume you're equally critical of Bristol Palin?
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            • Author by iglou (March 04, 2011 8:01 pm ET)
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              Troll! You were asked a simple question and rather than answer it you insult.

              Oh and casting that kind of moral judgement on someone is very un-Christian and I say that as a Catholic.
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            • Author by ilikeike (March 05, 2011 1:56 pm ET)
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              so going to city hall and getting a marraige licence is right. but creating a loving home for a child without said licence is wrong. this is your moral compass. your philosophy is inane. please think about your beliefs logically and dont just spew forth what you were told as a child
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            • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:11 pm ET)
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              YOU dont get to tell other people what THEIR moral compass should point to. You can CLAIM whatever you want but when no one is being hurt your CLAIM of knowing right from wrong is just you giving your OPINION. Natalie Portman seems to disagree.
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            • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:26 am ET)
                 
              Can you?
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        • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:54 pm ET)
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          She wasn't glamorizing it. She simply thanked the father of the child for her child's life.

          Further, lying politicians should not be glamorized by being given hours of air time to continue to spread their lies. Huckabee is the LAST person right now who should be commenting on anybody's morals.
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        • Author by Tony161956 (March 03, 2011 6:56 pm ET)
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          Oh you're right. Out of wedlock births shouldn't be glamorized. They should be politicized the way Sarah & Bristol did. Oh no not glamorized one bit. Huckabee should be celebrating the fact that Natalie didn't have an abortion
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          • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 7:01 pm ET)
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            The night that Sarah Palin trotted her pregnant, unmarried teenaged daughter across the stage was the day I lost any and all respect I could have ever had for that woman. She USED her daughter's pregnancy to deflect the rumors that had been swirling around Alaska for months about the parentage of Trig.

            It was disgusting.
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            • Author by Tony161956 (March 03, 2011 7:11 pm ET)
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              Exactly. It was the epitome of glamorizing unwed motherhood.
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            • Author by Who_knew (March 03, 2011 7:13 pm ET)
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              Well, palin IS disgusting!

              So, disgusting IS as disgusting does, right?
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            • Author by indigo1968 (March 03, 2011 7:16 pm ET)
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              >>>Out of wedlock births shouldn't be glamorized. They should be politicized the way Sarah & Bristol did.

              And just for the record, if anyone believes that had one of Obama's daughters gotten pregnant out of wedlock in 2008 (assuming they were older) the Fox set wouldn't have responded with racist howls of "welfare queen" (while falling over themselves to excuse Bristol and Levi) said person desperately needs to reconnect with reality.

              Otherwise, Natalie Portman never glamorized out of wedlock births. Yet if Huckabee is indeed so adamant about the questionable morality of such things, I'm sure Miss Portman would only be too happy to get an abortion to set Huckabee's mind at ease.
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            • Author by indigo1968 (March 03, 2011 7:34 pm ET)
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              Bintx:

              >>>>The night that Sarah Palin trotted her pregnant, unmarried teenaged daughter across the stage was the day I lost any and all respect I could have ever had for that woman.

              Sarah Palin has become highly skilled at using her kids as living props to exploit her audience.
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              • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 7:38 pm ET)
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                Sarah Palin has become highly skilled at using her kids as living props to exploit her audience.

                And screaming like a stuck pig about "my children are being attacked!" whenever anyone calls her on her blatant pandering...
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            • Author by iglou (March 04, 2011 8:10 pm ET)
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              Rumors that haven't properly been addressed. That story doesn't add up. NO woman in her third trimester should be travelling by plane.
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          • Author by abrady (March 03, 2011 9:40 pm ET)
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            Thank you so much for putting this in words. This is exactly where my thoughts went!

            The GOP can't have it both ways-- to glorify Bristol's situation and how well "she" is dealing with single parent role and knock others that make a "choice" to have a baby but not marry the father of the child.

            They also should not be allowed to preach pro-life and then remove state/federal government programs that are the safety net for the woman that do not have abortions!
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            • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 8:58 am ET)
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              Let's look at the two women.

              Bristol Palin is a high school drop out attempting to cash in on her mother's celebrity. She can dance but wasn't good enough to win.

              Natalie Portman is a 29 year old Academy Award winning actress. She's been acting since the age of thirteen. She still found time to finish her education. While in high school she acted and still had time to write a paper which was one of the finalists in the Intel Science Talent Search. She completed her education earning a psychology degree from Harvard. She can dance and her dancing and acting performance won the most prestigious acting award on the planet.





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              • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 1:17 pm ET)
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                Let's look at the two women.


                No, wait, I'm confused... You're trying to trick me... It has to be the other way around. Palin must be the self made successful academy award winning actress and Portman the deadbeat single mom living off of the charity of others. Right?
                Portman is a dirty parasitic liberal, she depends on the government. She can't do anything for herself shes a dirty taxpayer robbing single mother. Palin is a nice wholesome conservative, she... Oh man, I'm so confused... Getting dizzy... so confused... Somebody please call FOX NEWS to help me figure this out. It has to be some kind of conspiracy.

                Its almost too hard for me to be a conservative. Poor me.
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        • Author by Who_knew (March 03, 2011 7:11 pm ET)
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          WHY NOT??

          A birth is a happy occasion. And, who are YOU to judge anyway??
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        • Author by Martha (March 03, 2011 7:42 pm ET)
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          by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 6:40 pm ET) 6
          Out of wedlock births should not be glamorized.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          You had better inform the Palin family and all of the tea baggers that idolize them.

          Ms.Portman was in a loving relationship, wealthy and settled in her career BEFORE she had a child.

          Brisket Palin is making money simply BECAUSE she is an unwed mother, of a failed politician, fighting with and constantly belittling the child's fathers in the media to garner even MORE attention for $$$$$$.

          Portman is a beloved celebrity and Brisket is an unintelligent, talentless media whore like her mother.



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        • Author by jonimacaroni1 (March 03, 2011 7:51 pm ET)
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          Out of wedlock births don't affect stable marriages, just like homosexual unions don't affect heterosexual marriages.
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        • Author by davemccarthymusic9410 (March 03, 2011 8:23 pm ET)
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          "Out of wedlock births should not be glamorized."

          well, we can argue whether they should be or not, but the fact is that they are NOT being glamorized. At least not in this case. We have a fundamental problem with the English language when this is referred to "glamorizing " out of wedlock birth.

          Though I suppose it's not as bad as the fundamental problem of boneheads not realizing that if half the marriages in America end in divorce, it might not be the magical institution a deep thinker like Medved says it is.

          Just ask Newt Gingrich.
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        • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 8:24 pm ET)
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          I agree CenterRight, out of wedlock births should be shamed rather than glamorized.

          The Obama-worshippers on here must love that Obama's decision to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. That way, the records that show that married couples and their children are happier and healthier will be abolished, and their "anything goes" lifestyle will have some, albeit false, credibility.

          It's sad how disgusting the left is.
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          • Author by right ON (March 03, 2011 8:53 pm ET)
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            I agree CenterRight, out of wedlock births should be shamed rather than glamorized.
            No. They shouldn't.
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            • Author by mary59 (March 04, 2011 4:32 pm ET)
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              Your agreement that out of wedlock births "should be shamed" is disgusting.

              Children are all to be greeted with love and acceptance. No matter how they came.
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              • Author by right ON (March 04, 2011 9:42 pm ET)
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                Um...were you intending to respond to forthright? I don't think unwed mothers should be shamed.
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          • Author by Tony161956 (March 03, 2011 9:06 pm ET)
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            Yes, of course I love Obama's decision. You made the case for it yourself. If records show that married couples & their children are happier & healthier, gay couples with children being able to marry will increase the number of happy, healthy families! Thank you for agreeing!
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            • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 10:14 pm ET)
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              They won't. I'll pray for you and your ilk.
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              • Author by Johaely (March 03, 2011 10:49 pm ET)
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                How? The only thing that matters when it comes to rasig children is that they live in a stable home with responsible parents or guradians. It doesn't matter if they are both men, both women or just one.
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              • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:51 pm ET)
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                It must be nice to be so smug and self-righteous. Typical conservative. Heartless and full of themselves.
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              • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 9:04 am ET)
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                Pray all you want to, your Jesus can spot a hypocrite a mile away.
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              • Author by raddave43 (March 04, 2011 11:10 am ET)
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                take your prayers and shove them where your good Lord split you.
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              • Author by Conchobhar (March 04, 2011 6:07 pm ET)
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                Keep your god damned prayers off my ilk.
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              • Author by chuckie (March 05, 2011 10:19 am ET)
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                Oh, please pray for me. And don't generalize and just pray for my ilk. Please put all of us as individuals in your prayers. At this time there are 6 of us that you should pray for. It would be the christian thing to do. That and to demonize those whose life choices you don't agree with.
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              • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:17 pm ET)
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                God is answering your prayers. I am named after the angel who cures STUPIDITY and I have never seen a more worthy customer than YOU. So hearken up and perhaps your crippling stupidity can be cured
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              • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:28 am ET)
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                Please don't.
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          • Author by papa bear3 (March 03, 2011 9:25 pm ET)
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            . . .shot gun marriages were always honorable and healthy
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          • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:50 pm ET)
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            It's sad how hateful and outright false you are.

            Please prove to me how shame is more healthy for a child than love.
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          • Author by JohnJay60 (March 04, 2011 1:27 am ET)
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            You lost me here. Obama's decision will lead to an increase in marriages. Your objections are tangled in contradiction and must be ignored. Please stop voting if you can't think straight.
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 04, 2011 8:55 am ET)
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            The Obama-worshippers on here must love that Obama's decision to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. That way, the records that show that married couples and their children are happier and healthier will be abolished, and their "anything goes" lifestyle will have some, albeit false, credibility.

            You're a little confused, I think.
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          • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 9:02 am ET)
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            No birth should be shamed. What is it with you people who are so quick to judge someone because of their birth or marital status?

            What is disgusting is your ability to attempt to shame two people who are in love and their child.
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          • Author by JoeSixpack (March 04, 2011 9:47 am ET)
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            I agree CenterRight, out of wedlock births should be shamed rather than glamorized.

            So much for "love thy neighbor," eh? Your Christianity is as shallow as your intellect, you judgmental halfwit.
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          • Author by bintx (March 04, 2011 10:08 am ET)
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            Forthright, I"m not an Obama-worshipper or from the left, but neither of those things are relevant to this post.

            This is about a man who lied on a radio program and then, when caught, has continued to lie REPEATEDLY claiming to have some sort of moral compass which allows him to sit in judgment of another person.

            Further, your comments about out of wedlock pregnancies being shamed and your apparent misguided concept of political ideologies lead me to ask, did you SHAME Bristol Palin and her mother for glamorizing Bristol's out of wedlock pregnancy? If you did, why?

            Oh, and your complete lack of knowledge about the Justice Department's LEGAL decision not to defend ONE SECTION of DOMA is astounding. The DOJ will continue to enforce it, but it will no longer defend, in court, the ONE SECTION which has been determined by legal scholars and more than one court to be un-Constitutional.

            You might also want to pick up a Bible. You claimed that word for word scripture posted above was skewed. It was not.
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            • Author by null1fy (March 05, 2011 3:21 pm ET)
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              I get my scripture from the new american bible and the fact that he posted scripture on here is beyond hypocritical.
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              • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:19 pm ET)
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                The fact you are so stupid you think the use of scripture by liberals is hypocritical shows two things. You are so judgemental you are an embarassment to all decent christians and you are so STUPID you dont really know what hypocrisy is.
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          • Author by newzhound (March 04, 2011 12:08 pm ET)
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            forthright: If approximately half the marriages in America end in divorce, how can "the records" show that married couples and their children are happier and healthier? Happier and healthier than what?

            Additionally, if gay folks can marry in every state, those numbers would go up. If, indeed, "the records" exist at all. I don't believe they do.
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          • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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            I agree CenterRight, out of wedlock births should be shamed rather than glamorized.


            And this comes the day, or two days after Huckaducks attack on Gays. Yeah, he's a conservative alright, hates big government, regulation and does not want the nanny state taking care of us.

            There are many things that we as Americans have to be very ashamed of, past, present and future, but this is not one of them.

            Hey Huck, stop trying to cram big government nanny statism down the throats of the conservatives while you call yourself a conserva... Oh, wait, I forgot, conservatives support a big government nanny state as long as it is done their way, the bible way. Keep your filthy bible out of my bedroom, leave it in the bathroom where I can use the pages as toilet paper. Your faith is a sad, sick joke, and worse yet it is a joke you want turned into law. You want abortion banned, you want homosexuality banned, and, if you can find a legal angle, you will try to legislate out of wedlock births and single parenting. You are already cutting funding for aid to single mothers.
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            • Author by Ribelin2000 (March 04, 2011 4:07 pm ET)
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              Keep your filthy bible out of my bedroom, leave it in the bathroom where I can use the pages as toilet paper


              RIGHT ON, BLACKMAKO!!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

              This almost makes up for your radical hatred of America. Almost.

              "For all respect, you cannot lust
              In an invisible man you place your trust"
              -Slayer, "Jesus Saves", 1986
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              • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 4:23 pm ET)
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                I do not radically hate America. In fact I don't hate America. I am aware of what I said in the posts you refer to and I never said that I hate America, I said I am not supportive of troops who commit crimes and that I am not a patriot. See there is a lot of grey area between patriotism and hating your country.
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          • Author by ilikeike (March 06, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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            how is this a left or right issue.dont the right want govt out of our lives?of course it would be nice if everyone grew up in a happy healthy home. it really matters not if the state sanctions the union for the couple to be good parents
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        • Author by JP (March 03, 2011 9:10 pm ET)
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          What about Palin? Oh that's right their special.
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        • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:43 pm ET)
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          She's not having an "out of wedlock" birth. She's engage and will raise the child in marriage. Either way, it's not being "glamorized." Huckabee is just making a mountain out of a molehill to gain political points.
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        • Author by radiomuse (March 04, 2011 2:04 am ET)
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          Don't you guys know? She obviously should have had an abortion. Silly Natalie! How dare you give the child a life, a loving father, and a wonderful home in an ivy-league educated household.
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        • Author by wookie (March 04, 2011 7:49 am ET)
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          You're right. She really shouldn't have done that Out of Wedlock and Loving It! story in Vanity Fair.
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        • Author by LEGS59 (March 04, 2011 8:25 am ET)
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          How do you feel about the poster child of unwed mothers...Bristol Palin?
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        • Author by rtejon (March 05, 2011 7:20 am ET)
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          Neither should doomed marriages.
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        • Author by ilikeike (March 05, 2011 1:54 pm ET)
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          no thats not the problem. the problem is kids having kids. the problem is teenage girls ruining their prospects and their childrens prospects when they have children they dont have the resources to raise properly, or the male partner to help out. the problem is not a wealthy woman who is creating life with her committed partner. why cant the right deal with reality instead of symbolism?
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    • Author by ultrasanktpauli (March 03, 2011 5:55 pm ET)
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      again- huckabee is an idiot.
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    • Author by Eric Jaffa (March 03, 2011 5:55 pm ET)
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      Natalie Portman is engaged to the father.

      Whether the baby or the wedding comes first, she won't really be a "single mom."
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    • Author by epichuntarz (March 03, 2011 6:01 pm ET)
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      It's funny how Huckleberry conveniently forgot to say a word about Bristol Palin during his faux outrage.
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    • Author by nerzog (March 03, 2011 6:07 pm ET)
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      Oh, Jesus... it's Murphy Brown all over again.

      The War on Terror is dead! Long live the Culture War!
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (March 03, 2011 7:05 pm ET)
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        Whenever the Republican Brotherhood regains any semblance of power, the progressives have to re-fight battles won long ago.
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        • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 10:19 pm ET)
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          The regressive secret society is only about 100 years old and people are catching on to your tactics. People don't like 'em.
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          • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:52 pm ET)
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            Conservatives are regressive. And last time I checked, we had a President and Senate that was to the Left.
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            • Author by chuckie (March 05, 2011 10:37 am ET)
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              purplearies,
              I beleve we have a population that is slightly to the left. But "Senate and President"? The President is to the left of Dick Chaney, but not by that much.
              I've been really disappointed. When the President first entered the race, the Republicans came out and said he was the most liberal member of the Senate.
              It was just one more lie from the Republicans.
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              • Author by glibberish (March 05, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
                   
                Well they said that about Kerry, too. And they'll say that about the next Presidential candidate.
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 04, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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            What the hell are you talking about?
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    • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 6:08 pm ET)
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      "it's unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock."

      Huckabee is right, don't you have any moral compass!!!!! No one is perfect and mistakes happen but why glamorize them?

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      • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:13 pm ET)
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        Who's glamorizing it? They are getting married.

        For Huckabee who has spent the better part of the week trying to lie his way out of stupid remarks he's made, I don't think I'd be talking about "moral compasses." If you are a Christian, you know that ALL sins are equal in the sight of God, save and except for blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Huckabee's sin of lying is just as grievous in the eyes of God as Portman's pregnancy.
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        • Author by JimmyCraghorn (March 03, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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          Don't you get it? Not demonizing and heaping scorn on unwed mothers is glamourizing.
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          • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:42 pm ET)
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            Oh, I get it. For Huckabee, who is a Baptist preacher, to run around lying about intentionally false statements he made the other day to be condemning someone else for their sins is a bit much. Such hypocrisy.
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            • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:31 am ET)
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              I wonder what he thinks of Gingrich and his philandering.
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        • Author by akmikeus (March 03, 2011 6:44 pm ET)
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          Thumbs up bintx!
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      • Author by Badtime (March 03, 2011 6:26 pm ET)
           
        Wow. I don't know if you know this Center, but you are terrible at this game.

        Allow me to put it in Crayola for you. Nobody is glamorizing anything - it is Huckabee who is looking for a target to distract us from his recent "Oops, I guess I'm a sellout" faux paux. It is a simple as that.

        On another note, where is the flaming rhetoric towards Bristol Palin? If anything, you should be on her ass (not literally, someone beat you to it) about having a child out of wedlock despite her Strong Family Valuesâ„¢

        As far as our moral compass, it is pointed in the correct direction for the very reason you stated - "people make mistakes". A Good Christan Boyâ„¢ like Huckabee should know better and practice a little forgiveness like that one dude...whats his name...oh - Jesus - did. But it isn't our Commie Godless Liberalâ„¢ style to hold peoples mistakes against them (we do hold them accountable, but we don't hang it over their heads).

        Easy enough? I even used some of your keywords there to keep your conservative brain going.
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      • Author by xlrrp173 (March 03, 2011 6:27 pm ET)
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        Just wondering, CenterRight, do you think she should have had an abortion?


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        • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:32 pm ET)
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          Exactly.
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        • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 03, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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          No, I think CenterRight thinks Miss Portman should have stayed home and let that Oscar go to someone more responsible.
          You know, someone who has a "moral compass"!!
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          • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 03, 2011 6:41 pm ET)
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            On second thought, maybe she should have dressed herself less glamourously. A burka with a big scarlett "A" emblazened on it, perhaps?
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          • Author by beDecent (March 03, 2011 6:42 pm ET)
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            It does matter, when you come here talking about a moral compass. Where does yours point?
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 04, 2011 8:56 am ET)
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            No, I think CenterRight thinks Miss Portman should have stayed home and let that Oscar go to someone more responsible.

            I guess Huckabee forgot that if Portman had lost, a woman playing a lesbian mother would've won it.
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            • Author by Leftym0m79 (March 04, 2011 11:32 pm ET)
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              Then he would have just b*tched about that. He would have gotten press either way, so for him it would have been win win.
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            • Author by beDecent (March 03, 2011 6:44 pm ET)
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              Intended for CenterRight, my mistake.
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          • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:46 pm ET)
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            So, you're not anti-abortion? I am and pro-life. Those are my religious beliefs. I do think that, in this country, the Constitution gives her the choice. It's up to her to square it with her God.

            The point is, why is Huckabee trying to make Portman out to be a sinner extraordinaire when he's been running around lying like a dog for the past week about the lies he told on a radio program? He's just as much a sinner in the eyes of God as she.
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            • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:47 pm ET)
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              Wow, this was supposed to be posted under CenterRight's comment which is now BELOW mine! LOL!
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              • Author by beDecent (March 03, 2011 6:50 pm ET)
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                Ha, I don't think it's us. We can't both have hit the wrong reply button!
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            • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 8:13 pm ET)
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              In Con World, conservatives can commit any sin they like and be instantly forgiven; any liberal commits any sin whatsoever, and those same people are hauling out their stones and calling on Jayzus to give the benediction for the hanging party. Funny how the real Jesus instead gave those upright, solid, conservative thugs a stern little talking-to instead of starting the execution. I believe it's somewhere in the Book of John, or maybe Luke...
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            • Author by crazymonkeylady (March 03, 2011 10:14 pm ET)
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              Against abortion? Don't have one then. Simple.
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              • Author by bintx (March 04, 2011 10:13 am ET)
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                Did you read what I said?

                I am and pro-life. Those are my religious beliefs. I do think that, in this country, the Constitution gives her the choice. It's up to her to square it with her God.


                It's her choice, not mine. I don't choose to have one for myself, but I can't make anyone else's choice. Try reading before condemning.
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            • Author by Squirrel (March 06, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
                 
              The Constitution is 'pro-choice' only if you require the supposition that an intrauterine organism is not of the same species as it's mother.
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          • Author by loonz (March 03, 2011 7:55 pm ET)
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            But yet you feel compelled to comment on her marital status.
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          • Author by loonz (March 03, 2011 7:55 pm ET)
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            But yet you feel compelled to comment on her marital status.
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            • Author by loonz (March 03, 2011 7:59 pm ET)
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              Twice I pressed "reply" on CenterRight's comment and twice my reply showed up somewhere else.
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          • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:53 pm ET)
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            If your opinion doesn't matter, feel free to not share it. Closed minds should come with closed mouths.
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        • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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          It doesn't matter what I think, it's a personal decision for the mother to make.
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        • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 03, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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          No, I think CenterRight thinks Miss Portman should have stayed home and let that Oscar go to someone more responsible.
          You know, someone who has a "moral compass"!!
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          • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 6:42 pm ET)
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            Grow up.
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            • Author by Tony161956 (March 03, 2011 6:59 pm ET)
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              Be honest Center Right. Don't you think the Palins were glamorizing Bristol's unwed pregnancy? Were you decrying that?
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              • Author by CenterRight (March 03, 2011 7:33 pm ET)
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                Yes - Palin was equally wrong.
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                • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 7:52 pm ET)
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                  And strangely enough, I didn't happen to see you around here stating that. Conveniently enough...
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                  • Author by CenterRight (March 04, 2011 1:10 am ET)
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                    "I didn't happen to see you around here"

                    I wasn't a member of this site at the time.
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            • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 03, 2011 7:09 pm ET)
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              Grow up.

              Been there, Done that.

              "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
              --- T. Jefferson
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          • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:48 pm ET)
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            I would think that he would have the same comment for Huckabee. Huckabee has shown in the last week that his compass is a bit skewed.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (March 03, 2011 6:45 pm ET)
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        I'd like to see any of these examples of glamorizing. Is the failure to brand her with a scarlet A glamorizing?
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 7:41 pm ET)
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        Funny how to teabaggers like you, "morality" is only concerned with genitalia! Steal, lie, and cheat to your heart's content, but if you do something not absolutely simon-pure with your pee-pee, you've lost your "moral compass." So, is it comforting to know that your moral sense is as shallow as a sheet of onionskin paper?...
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        • Author by ilikeike (March 06, 2011 4:15 pm ET)
             
          yeah portman creates life. she is a bad influence. george bush sets off the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocents and he is a man of god
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (March 03, 2011 7:43 pm ET)
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        "Thou shalt not bear false witness." So Huckabee lies his tochis off--another direct affront to the Decalogue--and somehow his moral compass is just okie-dokey? Yeah, like I trust your moral sense, UnCentered...
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      • Author by right ON (March 03, 2011 8:06 pm ET)
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        Huckabee is right, don't you have any moral compass
        Having a child out of wedlock is not immoral.
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        • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 10:18 pm ET)
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          Having a child out of wedlock is immoral.
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          • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:56 pm ET)
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            No, having a child out of wedlock is not immoral. Your personal opinion is not truth or fact. Funny - according to Gallup polling, only far-right conservative fundamentalist Christians think birth out of wedlock is "immoral." Nobody else polled did. It must be nice living in a world of self-righteousness and judgment.
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          • Author by patriotdawg (March 03, 2011 11:09 pm ET)
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            Like telling lies to start a war.

            Actually, I think the war thing is worse.
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          • Author by loonz (March 04, 2011 6:20 am ET)
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            How so?
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          • Author by soze169880 (March 04, 2011 8:57 am ET)
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            Being this obsessed with other people's sex lives is immoral.
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          • Author by bintx (March 04, 2011 10:15 am ET)
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            Lying and then trying to cover up those lies with more lies is immoral, too. In fact that's what this thread is about. Mike Huckabee sitting in judgment of Natalie Portman while he has been on his week-long lying to cover up his lies tour is a bit hypocritical.
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          • Author by right ON (March 04, 2011 9:47 pm ET)
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            Having a child out of wedlock is immoral.
            No. It isn't.
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          • Author by kabniel (March 05, 2011 8:21 pm ET)
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            That is your opinion. You are welcome to it. I have an opinion too. People as stupid as you should not vote.
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          • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:33 am ET)
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            HOW is it immoral?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (March 03, 2011 8:23 pm ET)
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        "it's unfortunate that we glorify and glamorize the idea of out of children wedlock."

        Huckabee is right, don't you have any moral compass!!!!! No one is perfect and mistakes happen but why glamorize them?


        You know, right up until the point that Mike had to make an issue out of it, I had no idea that Natalie Portman was pregnant.
        I guess they need to work harder on the glamorizing part because they weren't getting the message out very well.
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        • Author by right ON (March 03, 2011 8:50 pm ET)
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          My only sadness about the situation is that it wasn't me that got to impregnate her. Oh Natalie, we could have been good for each other. <sigh>

          People should be encouraged to shed the yoke of outdated and illogical rules regarding so-called sexual morality. It's one thing to say it's unwise for a person of limited means to get pregnant. It's another thing to label that situation as immoral.

          On a personal note, my live-in (shacking up for the bagger set) girlfriend became pregnant. Her family is pretty fundie, though more like liberal fundies than your traditional conservative fundies. Before I met them, I didn't realize how someone could be a fundie and relatively liberal at the same time. It is possible.

          My girlfriend herself has a masters degree in theology and at one time was on the road to becoming a Lutheran pastor. She lost her faith somewhere along the way, before I came into the picture (honest, it wasn't my fault). I couldn't believe when we had dinner with her sister not long after people became aware that "we" were pregnant. Her sister was randomly crying throughout the night. I was perplexed. It turned out that her sister was upset that her nephew was going to be "a bastard". I couldn't believe it. How could someone of high intelligence really see things so narrowly.

          Fast forward three years and my son is a whip-smart toddler. My girlfriend and I are now engaged. We probably would have gotten engaged previously but we're both stubborn and didn't want it simply because others were pressuring us. My son is the light of his grandparents and aunt's life. They love him and he loves them. To look at my son and think that there's something wrong with him, simply because some civil ceremony wasn't preformed before he arrived, is ridiculous. Since then, to her credit, my girlfriend's sister has apologized for her previous attitude.

          In short, a wanted and loved child is a lucky child. It doesn't matter under what circumstances that the child came into the world. For all those that create arbitrary litmus tests to determine who is moral and who is not, you need to grow up and start taking a long hard look at your "values" and really look at their root.
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          • Author by Murfam4 (March 03, 2011 9:58 pm ET)
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            Thank you for that, very well said. I am stunned at the blindness of the right.

            They want everyone to live by their religious beliefs, but really, it isn't about religion, morality or setting the wrong example per se, it's about FEAR. Fear that if they don't force everyone to live by the word of their God, they will be in the minority.

            Being the minority (read: being in a position of less power) is overwhelmingly scary for them. Unfortunately, they will never admit this and only hide behind their supposed moral superiority. They look inward at how they themselves treat minorities and are able to see how they might be treated should it some day be them. AND IT SCARES THEM
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            • Author by null1fy (March 03, 2011 10:20 pm ET)
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              Wrong. You're projecting your hate-filled conspiracy theory.
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              • Author by eweston8542983 (March 03, 2011 10:41 pm ET)
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                Right, you're getting your scripts from a look up table.
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              • Author by purplearies (March 03, 2011 10:58 pm ET)
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                No, Murfam4 was correct and it hit a nerve in you. And it should. You need to get your head out of your rear-end and try living in reality.
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              • Author by highlyunlikely (March 03, 2011 11:40 pm ET)
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                isn't this the same con who projected about projection on another thread? I see a pattern.
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            • Author by Murfam4 (March 04, 2011 8:14 am ET)
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              Nope, not a conspiracy theory, should have been clearer. It isn't a conspiracy because they themselves have yet to figure out why they act the way they do. This was purely opinion.
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            • Author by Murfam4 (March 04, 2011 8:15 am ET)
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              Nope, not a conspiracy theory, should have been clearer. It isn't a conspiracy because they themselves do not truly understand their own motives. If they thought about it for 1/3 of a second they might, but I truly don't think they realize what is really motivating them. This was purely opinion.
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      • Author by Rob Serrano (March 04, 2011 12:24 am ET)
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        You're right, Portman should have had an abortion to cover the shame that she was supposed to have felt at becoming pregnant at a point in her life that YOU don't think was appropriate. How dare she plan to marry the father and express her joy in a public forum, right?

        As for your moral compass, I suggest you have it looked at because it looks to be broken.
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      • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 9:09 am ET)
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        Who is glorifying out of wedlock births? Are unwed mothers supposed to hide someplace until after they deliver? Huckabee seems to be the one putting this in the spotlight.

        I think the media needs to dig into the lives of his children. Especially the dog torturer and animal killer. I hope Mike does run for the presidency and I also hope that attention is focused on his son. Maybe Michael Vick will agree to give Huck an interview on his Fox show and they can discuss animal cruelty.
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      • Author by ccreadme (March 04, 2011 2:22 pm ET)
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        Why can`t a woman be happy and proud that she is having a child?
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      • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:30 am ET)
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        She's only pregnant. Last I checked she wasn't smearing glitter on her belly and tacking neon lights to her umbilicus.
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    • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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      Mike, that didn't work well for Dan Quayle.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 04, 2011 5:59 pm ET)
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        That was my first thought on reading the remark. I'm surprised it's so far down on the thread.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (March 03, 2011 6:14 pm ET)
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      Apparently, Mike Huckabee has accepted the idiocy that "any publicity is good publicity."

      The air around Huck is heavy with the scent of Frank Luntz.

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      • Author by crazymonkeylady (March 03, 2011 10:26 pm ET)
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        Don't you mean the air around Huckabee is heavy with the 'Stench' of Frank Luntz and the Teabaggers?
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    • Author by beDecent (March 03, 2011 6:22 pm ET)
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      They'd rather a 13-year-old be forced to have a child than a 29-year-old millionaire have one by choice?

      How is that not twisted to everyone??
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      • Author by draftedin68 (March 03, 2011 6:29 pm ET)
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        If you were to be miniaturized and injected into the gray goo inside Beck's hat holder, the answer would be obvious.

        Word of warning: the chemically-addled brain is not a pretty sight.

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    • Author by bailorgana (March 03, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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      Hey Mike would you rarther if she had an Abortion?
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    • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (March 03, 2011 6:32 pm ET)
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      Huckabee says:
      Most single moms are very poor, uneducated, can't get a job, and if it weren't for government assistance, their kids would be starving to death and never have health care. And that's the story that we're not seeing,.....across the board, 41 percent of all live births in America are out of wedlock births. And the cost of that is simply staggering.

      The only solution is what Republicans are proposing.

      Defund Planned Parenthood, sex education, conraception services.
      Defund all social programs that offer assistance to hapless fornicators.
      Defund any community organization that helps fornicators seeking assistance or employment.
      Defund any child care programs that might allow unwed fornicators to hold a job.
      Abolish minimum wage so that fornicating mothers cannot afford to feed and cloth their bastard children.
      Defund public education so that no bastard child has any chance of lifting themselves out of the poverty cycle.

      All that should put an end to all this fornication business.
      And we can balance the budget with all those savings.
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      • Author by Who_knew (March 03, 2011 7:22 pm ET)
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        The hypocrisy is palpable, eh? These repug politicians whine, and wail about abortion, and yet when a woman decides to keep their children, they whine ever loader about the costs of the very babies they wanted to see born!!

        This is reason # 657923547517 why I will NEVER vote for anyone running for any office on the repugnant party ticket.
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (March 03, 2011 8:33 pm ET)
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        You forgot the part about bring back stocks and pillories, and public dunking.

        Thank gosh for the GOP, taking us back to the good old days.
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    • Author by OtterQueen (March 03, 2011 6:55 pm ET)
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      Hey, Mike! There are a lot of married pregnant women who aren't millionaires, too. Not only that, there are a lot of "traditional" families who, if not for public assistance, would be starving to death and never have health care.

      She has the resources to raise a child, and is doing so with a man who is committed to the relationship. Sounds like an ideal situation to me.
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    • Author by pete592 (March 03, 2011 6:59 pm ET)
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      Yeah, look over here, this Natalie Portman woman, she is what's wrong with the world. Let's all blame her for the plight of poor, single mothers.
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    • Author by thebewilderness (March 03, 2011 7:00 pm ET)
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      Natalie Portman says, 'Oh I want to thank my love and he's given me the most wonderful gift.' He didn't give her the most wonderful gift, which would be a wedding ring!



      This is just priceless.
      You can pick up a wedding ring at any pawn shop.
      Babies are a teensy weensy itsy bitsy bit harder to come by than that.
      It would take a very stupid man to claim right out in public that a ring is better than a baby. But his beliefs, odd as they may be, are his own problem.
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    • Author by bintx (March 03, 2011 7:03 pm ET)
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      Does Huckabee realize that he is criticizing an Israeli citizen? Where's your support for Israel, Mike?
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    • Author by Who_knew (March 03, 2011 7:09 pm ET)
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      WOW!!

      Huckelberry hound is whining because people are deciding to keep their children instead of aborting them, regardless of the hardship. I guess that makes old huckster a pro abortion kinda guy, eh? For cost sake he would rather see those kids aborted.

      One thing is for sure about hypocrites like huckster, they all seem to love the fetus, and yet they all seem to loath the children.

      In his comments, huckleberry hound proves this to be true.
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    • Author by Martha (March 03, 2011 7:31 pm ET)
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      Huckabee will say ANYTHING for a $$.

      Huckabee is allot like Palin, simply media whores for the $$$.
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    • Author by my4cents (March 03, 2011 8:42 pm ET)
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      "Hey look, you know, we're having children, we're not married, but we're having these children, and they're doing just fine."
      anyone care to prove that sentence wrong, with facts?
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      • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:52 am ET)
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        "Hey look, you know, we're having children, we're not married, but we're having these children, and they're doing just fine."
        anyone care to prove that sentence wrong, with facts?


        As someone who believes in marriage and is married and believes that marriage is forever, I don't agree with your assertion. What matters to a child is whether or not mom and dad live together and are in a happy, stable, monogamous relationship. The legality of marriage is meaningless to a child. This is especially true when mom and dad are married but dysfunctional. No I would argue that marriage, as it relates to children and their upbringing, is utterly meaningless. Marriage is for the married, not for their children.
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        • Author by right ON (March 04, 2011 9:32 pm ET)
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          I think you misread his post. I believe he agrees with you.
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    • Author by oscar the grouch (March 03, 2011 8:50 pm ET)
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      There is a lot to be taken from the last paragraph of the Huckster's statement above, despite the hyperbole in the preceding paragraphs. Those figures, if anywhere close to correct, are staggering. I have seen studies showing that one of the best paths out of poverty is nuclear family (two parents and then children). Education also provides a path and it is hard to get the necessary education if one is a single parent. As we seem to be a "star struck" culture, looking to people with that "star quality", sadly some will also look to them as role models.
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      • Author by right ON (March 03, 2011 8:56 pm ET)
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        Right. The red states have the highest rates for unwed and teenage pregnancy. It has nothing to do with role models. It has everything to do with ignorance.
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      • Author by Murfam4 (March 03, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
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        OK..One more time!!! EVERYBODY.....She is NOT a single parent. Single parent means one who raises a child on their OWN, not someone who isn't married!!! And to assume that girls are rushing out to get pregnant because Nathalie Freakin' Portman is pregnant doesn't put much faith in our youth. I would also argue that a teenager who feels this way (and admitedly there are some) has a number of other issues as well.
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      • Author by thebewilderness (March 03, 2011 10:34 pm ET)
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        I have seen studies showing that one of the best paths out of poverty is nuclear family (two parents and then children).


        Oddly enough we were just talking about those studies a few days ago.
        The statistics do not support the conclusions. But then they rarely do.

        It is true the the majority of people living in poverty in the US are children. Having two incomes is a necessity for most families in the US. Having two incomes is not necessarily the same as having two parents. KWIM?
        Education is the only real path out of poverty. Not just here but everywhere.
        That is why Republicans are chopping support for schools, eh.
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      • Author by worrierking (March 04, 2011 9:16 am ET)
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        The only thing about Portman that prohibits her from being a role model is that she isn't married yet?

        Is her status any worse than that of Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, Newt Gingrich, Dick Armey, Phil Gramm, John Engler, Pete Wilson, George Will, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Barr, Al D'Amato, John Warner, George Allen, Henry Kissinger, Helen Chenoweth, John McCain, John Kasich, Susan Molinari, Rudy Giuliani and other Republicans who've all been divorced? Some of them several times?

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      • Author by bintx (March 04, 2011 10:16 am ET)
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        The "nuclear family" is a fiction of post-WWII America.
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      • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:47 am ET)
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        As we seem to be a "star struck" culture, looking to people with that "star quality", sadly some will also look to them as role models.


        Yeah, because the last thing anyone should strive for is wealth, success and adoration by millions.
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    • Author by phredicles (March 03, 2011 9:34 pm ET)
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      Maybe Rev. Hucklenuts thinks "Dear God, please STFU" is the sound of a nation at prayer?
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    • Author by ConJob (March 03, 2011 9:54 pm ET)
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      She's having a baby! What if she were to have an abortion?? Nothing pleases the wing nuts.
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    • Author by crazymonkeylady (March 03, 2011 9:58 pm ET)
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      My moral compass tells me Huckabee is wrong discouraging marriage for everyone he hates, like loving committed gays. So why rag on an engaged couple who are expecting their baby? Why not say, "OK, you wacky kids- at least you aren't GAY!" Frumpy dude.
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    • Author by Maimon (March 04, 2011 12:07 am ET)
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      wow, who cares if she is married or not. There is no law about having kids out of wedlock. She can afford to take good care of her kid and educate her kid at teh best schools. And I am sure she will be a great mum.

      So, Mike He who is whithout sin may cast the first stone. I think you should drop teh stone, because we know your flaws and your shortcomings.

      The Golden Rule is an inner struggle to treat people as you want to be treated. Obviously, you should go back and read it again. You should be trying to be a better person, not being judgemental. Only G_D can judge people Mike. Did I mention I"m an atheist? LMAO

      I think Huck is spending too much time at Fox and it has potentially corrupted him.

      Does he have a case of Beckitis? Or O'Riley Measels? Or Hanity Pox? Maybe he has been tempted by the sirens at Fox....mmm Mike you dirty little boy...
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    • Author by marionetta (March 04, 2011 12:46 am ET)
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      Funny; I don't remember Huck going after Bristol Palin.
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    • Author by traveling_brand (March 04, 2011 5:52 am ET)
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      Let's see, Huckabeen's version of marriage is about 1500 years old. Can someone please tell me how humanity managed to survive the other 99 thousand years?

      Hint to Mr H: ALL of our ancestors were born out of wedlock if you go back far enough. You are an average ba$terd like the rest of us.
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      • Author by Maimon (March 05, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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        Hey..the world is only 6500 years old. Remember, we lived with dinosaurs in paradise.

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        • Author by jmcanoy1860 (March 06, 2011 4:42 am ET)
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          Those 6 inch daggers on T rex are great salad choppers!!
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    • Author by LEGS59 (March 04, 2011 8:25 am ET)
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      And just what does he think of Bristol Palin, who is an unwed mother? This is where the hypocrisy of the right wing is the most evident. Bristol was extolled by the religious right as a paragon of virtue because she did not have an abortion, yet Natalie Portman, who is engaged to the father of her child, is a shameless hussy because she was visibly pregnant at the Oscars. These men just need to shut up....
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    • Author by Liaj (March 04, 2011 9:36 am ET)
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      It looks like ol' Huckster is taking a page out of Dan Quayle's playbook. Next thing you know he will be misspelling potato.
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    • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:07 am ET)
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      At the risk of defending their arguments against Obama I need to say this. If I were Glenn Beck, which I am not, but if I were, I would call Huckabee an anti-semite because Natalie Portman is Isreali. We all know, because Beck has told us on several occasions, that the only reason anyone would criticize a Jew or an Israeli is anit-semitism.

      The history of conservatism is a history of slavery and racism so there is no good reason to believe that their totally unfounded criticisms of Obama have to do with anything but race. Yes, it is true that Lincoln was a Republican, but he was a liberal and if he were alive today he would either be a democrat or an unelectable republican. Remember your history kiddies, the party lines have changed.
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    • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 10:22 am ET)
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      Mike, I have a question and I honestly hope you see this and address it, but I know you never will. If a woman gets pregnant out of wedlock and does not plan on getting married, would it be better to abort the baby rather than give birth out of wedlock? She is already pregnant so the "she shouldn't be pregnant in the first place", while very nice in fairytale christian land, is completely invalid in the real world because she REALLY IS PREGNANT so you get an automatic F if that is the answer you give me.
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    • Author by RKAllen (March 04, 2011 11:01 am ET)
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      MEDVED: Well this was a - this was a low audience.
      and then...

      But in any event, she got up, she was very visibly pregnant, and it's really it's a problem because she's about seven months pregnant, it's her first pregnancy, and she and the baby's father aren't married, and before two billion people, Natalie Portman says, 'Oh I want to thank my love and he's given me the most wonderful gift.'
      Well, which is it... or is just shy of 1/3 of the planet now considered a small audience? What an unbelievable tool you are Medved. Seriously.

      And finally,

      He didn't give her the most wonderful gift, which would be a wedding ring!
      Not up to you to decide what is most important for other people, but I am willing to bet that if it came down to choosing one of them, the majority would prize their children over some gaudy bobble.
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      • Author by BlackMako (March 04, 2011 11:26 am ET)
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        Well this was a - this was a low audience.


        I'm not sure that by "low" he meant small. I think it may be a judgment.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (March 04, 2011 11:07 am ET)
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      The jury is in on Mikey Huckaberry:

      Your honor, Mr. Huckabee has proven, without a doubt,that he is dumber than a Quayle.
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    • Author by JP (March 04, 2011 1:02 pm ET)
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      What does he have to say about peanut butter legs bristol palin?
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (March 04, 2011 1:04 pm ET)
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      I don't recall Natalie Portman criticizing Huckabee. What has she said to offend him?

      Portman can afford to have a child and is not living on welfare. So he has no argument.

      I want to ask Huckabee a few questions: How many single mothers attend church every Sunday? How many single mothers attended your church?

      Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol had a child out-of-wedlock. I'm waiting to hear what she says about this one.
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    • Author by DONONEAL (March 04, 2011 5:51 pm ET)
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      Well now here we go--time to throw a hat into the republican presidental ring. Mike Huckabee is just another Gleen Beck.
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    • Author by the7sticks3363 (March 04, 2011 5:54 pm ET)
      5  
      I'd just like to know why anybody would loathe Black Swan? Especially if it's a reviewer who said he enjoyed, ugh, The Last Airbender?
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    • Author by Digg (March 04, 2011 11:17 pm ET)
         
      Something about the prestige of office and party pressure makes a media desperation. How much tiger blood is he drinking?
      Still it makes a lot of humor http://bit.ly/eMTDL5
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    • Author by bobconstans (March 05, 2011 2:21 am ET)
         
      I'm pretty sure that the term "fiance" means they are intending to wed. Is Huckabee suggesting that Natalie Portman have an abortion so that she can wait to have a child after they are married? Normally, I am more offended by bigotry than stupidity, but I'm making an exception this time.
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    • Author by SvenBoogie (March 05, 2011 2:32 am ET)
         
      Just curious, we're all on the same page that CenterRight, forthright, and several other posters are the same person, correct?

      Oh, and I just love how CenterRight and other trolls get to continue to post despite repeated lies and obvious trolling, but I still have to wait to be approved for comments.
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    • Author by waicool (March 05, 2011 12:47 pm ET)
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      i want my 2 hours back from that time i sat thru the black swan movie. ugh!
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    • Author by ilikeike (March 05, 2011 1:50 pm ET)
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      remember before natalie portman came along and all children were born to married parents. that b*tch is ruining america
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    • Author by MyassisDragon (March 05, 2011 7:04 pm ET)
         
      He never said a word about Bristol Palin! Look how far she has come with just a GED and no condom!
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    • Author by rich714 (March 06, 2011 7:45 am ET)
         
      we can see what the 2010 election is going to bring....Let the nuts run ......Make my job less stressful. they will try to pander to the far right wing nuts. And alienate the rest of the people
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    • Author by goldberg (March 06, 2011 2:33 pm ET)
         
      Hey so does that mean he feels the same way about Sarah and Bristol Palin then!!!!!!
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