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"Very Positive": Fox News' Smear Of "Vile Rapper" Common Debunked By Own Reporting

May 10, 2011 4:07 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

Conservatives such as Fox News, the Daily Caller and Sarah Palin are criticizing the White House's invitation to rapper Common for a poetry event over the purported vulgarity of his lyrics. Fox Nation, for instance, called Common a "vile rapper."

But roughly half-a-year ago, Fox News had a different tone about Common. In an October 2010 report for FoxNews.com, reporter Jason Robinson interviewed the "rap legend" and told him, "your music is very positive. And you're known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?"

Common replied that it's a "significant role. I just try to show who we are as well-rounded people and I'm happy to be known as the conscious artist."

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Others have debunked the silly outrage over Common's invite. The Huffington Post's Jason Linkins writes that Common is "not what I consider to be a 'gangsta rapper' or particularly prone to any of hip-hop's legendary excesses. In fact, it was these excesses - 'poppin glocks servin rocks and hittin switches' -- that Common famously criticized in perhaps his most famous song, 'I Used To Love H.E.R.'" The Atlantic's Conor Friedersdorf, meanwhile, notes that there's a tradition of previous White Houses hosting people with purportedly controversial lyrics.

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    • Author by curiousindependent (May 10, 2011 4:14 pm ET)
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      Well, they were only nice to him before because Obama hadn't invited him to dinner. Now that it has been demonstrated that Obama doesn't hate him, Fox MUST.
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      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:13 am ET)
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        Right, curiousindependent, score another great example of your "anytime Obama or the Democrats have embraced any (formerly) Republican idea, the Republiteatards have suddenly and almost unanimously decided that it was a bad idea. Never mind that it was their idea to begin with" meme.

        Because a reporter for Fox News, one reporter, a single reporter, at Fox News did a write-up on a singer and phrased a question as ""your music is very positive. And you're known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?", that that means all of Fox News and all Republicans agreed with THAT preface to THAT particular question by THAT particular reporter that Common's music was very positive. All Republicans were very positive on Common before he was invited to the White House, after which they completely changed their minds on him and decided he was a vile rapper.

        Let's all pretend for a moment that a rapper can't say things in his lyrics that are on the one hand 'very positive' and on the other 'very vile'.

        Let's all pretend this isn't very deceptive reporting by Eric Hananoki, too.
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        • Author by Ruby (May 11, 2011 9:26 am ET)
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          The purpose of this is to demonstrate that Fox has never before had any aversion to Common or his lyrics UNTIL the White House invited him to attend this event.

          All of a sudden, Common is a vile stain on humanity. If his lyrics are so frightening and destructive and dangerous, it seems like he would have warranted attention BEFORE this. However, the only attention he's ever received from Fox for his dangerous lyrics was positive.
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          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:39 am ET)
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            That makes absolutely no sense at all, Ruby.

            Obama is holding this singer up not front and center by having him appear at the White House. That gives him a higher profile and thus also subject to scrutiny where none was simply not warranted as much before. Most people who don't prefer rap music don't go seeking out vile lyrics so they can be outraged. But it's fair to be outraged when a rapper with a history of vile lyrics is invited to the White House even if you didn't know about him or his lyrics previously.

            Non sequitur argument you guys are making.
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            • Author by Ruby (May 11, 2011 9:44 am ET)
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              Hip hop is a cultural movement and Common is a positive representative of that movement. He's politically conscious and critical of the violence, drug use, and misogyny that is often seen in rap music (unlike Kid Rock, who's been praised by Sarah Palin and whose music is full of violence towards women). Maya Angelou has praised Common as a poet for the new generation. This is an invented controversy. Fox News is just cooking up something new to attack Obama for and it is petty and pointless.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:04 am ET)
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                Great post Ruby and absolutley correct.
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                • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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                  However, the only attention he's ever received from Fox for his dangerous lyrics was positive.


                  Ruby's last statement was categorically false, congero. It couldn't be great unless you assign greatness to falsehoods. It was not "absolutely correct". It was not even close to being correct at all.

                  Fox News did not make a positive comment about his most dangerous lyrics.

                  You guys really are on board with the Fox News sabotage meme going on here that David Brock told us about, that to fight effectively you have to be just as dishonest as they are, even more so if need be, arent't you?
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                  • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:50 am ET)
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                    Are there degrees of dishonesty?
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                    • Author by kamrom (May 11, 2011 1:20 pm ET)
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                      Yup. The worst tend to be scapegoating from the start, scapegoating to hide ones own intentions or actions retroactively, and ignoring every hard question posed to attack a false equivalent/straw man.
                      I was thinking of making something like an interactive verb wheel to show the mechanical, predictable ways in which their dishonest ideas/words chain together.

                      But then I realised that I could simplify it, and explain their entire ideology with This One Picture.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:52 am ET)
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                    I disagree with you Ruby's post was absolutley correct Faux is cooking up this controversy as another way to attack this president. You are full of it.

                    Guest Exposes Fox's "Absolutely Ridiculous" Logic On Common Invite

                    But when guest Keli Goff, a political analyst and contributor to TheRoot.com, pointed out during tonight's On the Record that conservatives have embraced artists like Kid Rock -- whose offensive lyrics haven't kept Sarah Palin from praising him -- Fox's outrage was exposed for what it is: selective and decidedly hypocritical.

                    Your text to link here...


                    Dishonesty? YOU talk of dishonesty? You who stole from another blogger talks about dishonesty? The nerve. You plagirized a post found on the wehateAmerica website is talking about dishonesty? We should listen to YOU lecture us about honesty when you don't show it. lol. I guess you still want to see Obamas kindergarten transcripts too. Keep it up and you'll show your sheet again bircher.
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              • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 10:06 am ET)
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                NBC New York: NJ State Police "Outraged" Over Rapper Invite to White House

                For New Jersey police, the outrage centers on "A Song for Assata" lyrics like "Your power and pride is beautiful. May God bless your soul."

                Shakur, formerly known as Joanne Chesimard, was convicted for the 1973 slaying of Trooper Werner Foerster on the New Jersey Turnpike. She escaped prison in 1979, and is living in asylum in Cuba.
                The young people who read this stuff, hear this stuff, are getting a very dangerous and deadly message," said David Jones, president of the State Troopers Fraternal Association union.
                ....The White House appearance comes during the same week that lawmen from across the nation, including Jones, make their annual trek to Washington to honor their fallen comrades at the National Law Enforcement Memorial.


                Eric Hananoki should seek out one New Jersey State trooper to see if he ever said he liked listening to Common's music, then he could say the concerns of the other troopers have been nullified and debunked by one of their own employees.

                It's amazing to me you guys don't see how ridiculous this article is.
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                • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 12:05 pm ET)
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                  Your assumption in quoting the state troopers is that Assata Shakur got a fair trial and was indeed guilty. There are many who are convinced Shakur did not get a fair trial and is innocent. New Jersey is or was at that time famous for falsely convicting Black people for crimes they did not commit, less we forget Rueben "Hurricane" Carter.
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                • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 1:41 pm ET)
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                  So Shakur and Common are the same person? If they aren't, your post is just another attempt at deflecting and chang8ing the subject from an issue you can't argue honestly.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:20 am ET)
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                Listen to the poem here:
                Your text to link here...

                hoosier is not telling the whole story. No surprise.
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                • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 10:59 am ET)
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                  Go tell the whole story to the New Jersey State Troopers, congero.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 11:08 am ET)
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                    Did you read the poem? If you did you would see that there is another side to this story and it not as clear cut as you presented. Ever hear of Hurricaine Carter or Geronimo Pratt? Look them up!
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                    • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 11:33 am ET)
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                      I would suggest you go to that NBC website and tell the story of Hurricane Carter for the benefit of those New Jersey State Troopers who are outraged at Common's invite to the White House, congero.

                      If you're trying to say their outrage is racist, go ahead and say that. You seem to be dancing all around that, why not state what it is you are saying, because whatever your point is, it's not coming across very well.
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                      • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 11:51 am ET)
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                        I suggest you kiss my behind bircher. What I said is there are two sides to this story. Hurricaine was railroaded as was Geronimo Pratt who was targeted by the FBI and their COINTEL program and wound up serving 28yrs. many in solitary for a crime he didn't commit. Call it what you want but it wasn't justice and Commons poem is telling a different story than the one you presented. Here are some lines :

                        A Song For Assata

                        (Common)
                        In the Spirit of God.
                        In the Spirit of the Ancestors.
                        In the Spirit of the Black Panthers.
                        In the Spirit of Assata Shakur.
                        We make this movement towards freedom
                        for all those who have been oppressed, and all those in the struggle.
                        Yeah. yo, check it-

                        There were lights and sirens, gunshots firin
                        Cover your eyes as I describe a scene so violent
                        Seemed like a bad dream, she laid in a blood puddle
                        Blood bubbled in her chest, cold air brushed against open flesh
                        No room to rest, pain consumed each breath
                        Shot twice wit her hands up
                        Police questioned but shot before she answered
                        One Panther lost his life, the other ran for his
                        Scandalous the police were as they kicked and beat her
                        Comprehension she was beyond, tryna hold on
                        to life. She thought she'd live with no arm
                        that's what it felt like, got to the hospital, eyes held tight
                        They moved her room to room-she could tell by the light
                        Handcuffed tight to the bed, through her skin it bit
                        Put guns to her head, every word she got hit
                        'Who shot the trooper?' they asked her
                        Put mace in her eyes, threatened to blast her
                        Her mind raced till things got still
                        Opened her eyes, realized she's next to her best friend who got killed
                        She got chills, they told her: that's where she would be next
                        Hurt mixed wit anger-survival was a reflex
                        They lied and denied visits from her lawyer
                        But she was buildin as they tried to destroy her
                        If it wasn't for this german nurse they woulda served her worse
                        I read this sister's story, knew that it deserved a verse
                        I wonder what would happen if that woulda been me?

                        For those interested in reading the whole poem;

                        Your text to link here...


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                        • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 11:57 am ET)
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                          Are you claiming Reuben Carter was railroaded twice, congero. The second trial, too?
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                          • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:08 pm ET)
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                            Lol. Pathetic! What was the final outcome?
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                          • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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                            Keep it up. You are showing more and more of your sheet. Maybe you can quote from Jim Hoft, or the Council of Conservative Citzens or Diversitysucks websites.
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                          • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 12:13 pm ET)
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                            Yes, he was railroaded twice. hoosier you are a disgusting racist.
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                            • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 12:30 pm ET)
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                              I asked him if he thought Carter was railroaded both times, that's not racist, hoopvillain. Bringing up Rubin Carter in order to charge anyone with racism for expressing disgust at Common being invited to the White House is weak.

                              You're doing what this website wants you to do, though.
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                              • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:35 pm ET)
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                                Pathetic! What was the purpose of your question considering the final outcome? Are you defending what the police did to him?
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                              • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 1:11 pm ET)
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                                You bring up Reuben Cartwer is not why I called you racist, you are racist, pure and simple. Get over it, embrace it because it is who you are. There are millions of you out there. Go join a racist club.
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                                • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:39 pm ET)
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                                  I hate racism, congero. More than you do.
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                                  • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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                                    Sorry, hoopvillain I meant. Explain what your definition of racism and what I said here was racist, otherwise you're just talking smack like congero loves to do.
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                                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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                                    There you go making claims that you can't prove or back up and based on your post I don't believe a word out of your mouth.
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                                  • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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                                    Yes, you hate it so much you want to get it out of your system by displaying it as often and as explicitly as you can all the time.

                                    I don't believe you for a second.
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                                  • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:02 pm ET)
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                                    I hate racism, congero. More than you do.
                                    Man, I can't imagine someone hating themselves that much. It must be torture.
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                                    • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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                                      I don't hate anyone, RightChrist.

                                      It's obvious congero and hoopvillain do.

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                                      • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:22 pm ET)
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                                        hoosier hates racism
                                        hoosier is a racist
                                        ergo hoosier hates hoosier
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                                        • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 4:26 pm ET)
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                                          rightChrist lurvs to call people racists
                                          righChrist can't explain why people are racists
                                          ergo rightChrist is a sleazy racebaiter
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                                          • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 5:10 pm ET)
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                                            Why am I surprised that your logic abilities are impaired? Just kidding. I'm not.
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                                      • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
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                                        lol. I don't care enough about you to hate you hoosier. You are a far right wing Randinista loving bircher/birther and where they travel racism is not far behind. Lets see the Presidents Kindergarten records.
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                                  • Author by chazmanr (May 11, 2011 4:22 pm ET)
                                       
                                    How would you know? Upon what basis have you reached your conclusion?
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                        • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 3:40 pm ET)
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                          Wow. That is the poem you think should keep from being a visitor to the White House, hoosier? You are disgusting. Seek help immediately.
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                          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 4:28 pm ET)
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                            mikehuck, you can go up and down this whole thread backwards, forewards sideways and diagonally, but you won't find me saying Common should be kept from going to the White House.

                            I would kindly suggest that you are the one who should seek help.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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                              The more you post the more people see right through you. Keep flailing and failing this is fun to watch.
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                            • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 5:07 pm ET)
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                              mikehuck, you can go up and down this whole thread backwards, forewards sideways and diagonally, but you won't find me saying Common should be kept from going to the White House. - hoosier

                              Right. So, once again you admit that you are really just wasting everyone's time. Anything to avoid the actual topic. Got it.
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                              • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 5:14 pm ET)
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                                This is the kind of nonsense we have had to deal with the last 2yrs.


                                Limbaugh's "Theory": Obama Thinks America Needs "Taken Down A Peg" Because Of Its "Slave Past"
                                Limbaugh Suggests Holder Considers "His People" To Be The "New Black Panthers"
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                                • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 6:04 pm ET)
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                                  This post pertains to what, exactly, with the topic at hand, congero? In what vein is this pertinent to this rapper?

                                  Proof of your obsession with race-baiting.

                                  You need to call people racists.

                                  It is what sustains you.
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                                  • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 6:57 pm ET)
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                                    It's a pattern of blatant racism. That's not that hard for you to understand. Oh wait. It is.
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                                    • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 8:19 pm ET)
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                                      I don't see where racism has been addressed in this post, RightChrist.

                                      It's only being brought up because congero is obsessed with race and brings it into every thread no matter if it's the topic or not.

                                      All anyone has to say is "OMG, this is all about not liking a black man in the White House" and congero springs into action.

                                      Disagree that the off=topic issue he just brought up, race, and it's the opportunity he and you seek to call that person a racist. Then get that person to defend themselves from being a racist. The 'when did you stop beating your wife' strategy. So boring, so repetitious, so predictable, yet you guys still think you're being clever.
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                                      • Author by mary59 (May 11, 2011 8:28 pm ET)
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                                        We see through you.
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                                      • Author by RightChis1 (May 12, 2011 3:54 am ET)
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                                        Thanks for demonstrating your myopia. I don't even have to make any points. I can just let you ramble.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:03 am ET)
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              So what is your disagreement hoosier with having Common invited to the whitehouse? You who support Jim Hoft. What is it about Common that you disagree with as a poet?
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              • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 10:24 am ET)
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                I don't have a disagreement with Common being invited to the White House. I have a disagreement with your habit of starting a sentence with "So...." and then immediately making a false supposition in order to bolster your charge.

                My point is it's fair to criticize the choice of having Common appear at the White House, and it's not debunking those criticisms for Fox News simply because one reporter who writes about music paid him a compliment in an interview six months ago.

                What is your disagreement with certain people having dislike for some of Common's more controversial lyrics?
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:33 am ET)
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                  My only problem is with Faux finding ways to attack this President. Whether it's hosting people who questioned Obamas birth,to questioning his patriotism and his wifes,to airing and supporting Ted Nugent who has threatened the President and democractic members of congress Faux has never hesitated in creating and finding ways to demonize this President. This is just another way to do so.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 10:52 am ET)
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                    Did you ever listen to Ted Nugent and enjoy his music, congero? I don't really expect you to answer that, or even honestly if you did, but the fact of the matter is if you did ever rock out to Great White Buffalo in your bedroom with headphones stoned to the bejeesus bells when you were growing up, then Eric Hananoki would say you debunked your own criticism of Ted Nugent. Actually, you'd probably have to say you were being a hypocrite, because Jason Robinson from Fox News, much less "Fox News" never said Common's more vile lyrics were "positive".

                    If you want to agree with Eric Hananoki, why don't you go ahead and do it and say that the way he argued his point is a valid and sound argument?
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 11:04 am ET)
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                      The biorcher/birther/racist finds commons lyrics vile. Why doesn't that surprise me. A person who steals post asking to see the Presidents kindergarten transcripts finds Commons lyrics vile.


                      You are so full of it. I can read:

                      "your music is very positive. And you're known as the conscious rapper. How important is that to you, and how important do you think that is to our kids?"

                      Common replied that it's a "significant role. I just try to show who we are as well-rounded people and I'm happy to be known as the conscious artist."

                      That from the article above with video. Then again I'll take Maya Angelou's word over yours and Faux Nation any day.


                      And, for the record, Angelou has praised Common. According to the Chicago Defender, she said recently: "I wanted to speak about Common, who is extremely uncommon. When I first heard him, I knew he was rare. I thought, my goodness, this young man...hello. So good, so talented, well raised. When I met his mother, I understood much. I will always support him. I know that I stand on the shoulders of great men and women. And I know there are young men and women who stand upon my shoulders."

                      Your text to link here...

                      And no I have never listened to Ted Nugent. Did Great White Buffalo come out before or after he threatened the Presdient and a democractic member of congress and received support from Sarah Palin and sean Hannity?
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 11:21 am ET)
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                        Congero, you're an African American who likes a black rapper. Ok, fine. No problem with that. The crux of your argument is that criticism of his more controversial lyrics is unfair after he's been invited to the White House and you post examples of two other African Americans who paid him compliments before this controversy in support of him.

                        I'd like to ask you what point you think you're proving.

                        Do you think because Jason Robinson said that then, that now that Common has been invited to the White House, no one else at Fox should be allowed to express their concerns or any opinion differing from a music reporter who works for Fox?

                        Do you think that Maya Angelou's overall opinion of Common being positive means he shouldn't be criticized for any of lyrics, even the ones she didn't specifically address in that opinion?
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 11:31 am ET)
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                          I've made myself clear.
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                          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 11:52 am ET)
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                            You haven't at all, congero. You're very quick to charge people with racism, but it sounds like you're the one being racist here. You make the charges in generalities, but when asked for specifics or to clarify, you demure.

                            I suppose a particular quote from Lee Atwater will be coming along right about now from you.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:06 pm ET)
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                              I've made myself very clear bircher and it nop surprise you are rresorting to your tried and true no you haven't defense. i mean I wouldn't count on a person who steals from other bloggers then lectures others about honesty to be truthful about anything. It just isn't in your blood. You are a believer that the ends justifies the means. Lies and playing games is all you do. I wouldn't expect anyone who post that they want to see Obamas kindergarten transcripts to be honest about anything. Oh, and Lee Atwater was telling the truth as was Ken Melhman and Michael Steele.

                              loved your comment about being an African American and liking a black rapper. Yep that was the reason I support him alright. lol. I like it when you try and patronize then expose your sheet.
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                              • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:45 pm ET)
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                                Maya Angelou once had nice things to say about a rapper and you use that to somehow prove criticism of that rapper is racist. Lol, congero.

                                Between the two of us, the person here with race issues isn't me.
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                                • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:49 pm ET)
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                                  lol. Flailing and failing. I don't support anyone based soley on their skin color. Another weak attempt by you to divert the point I made.
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                                • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 1:53 pm ET)
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                                  Between the two of us, the person here with race issues isn't me.
                                  In denial much?
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                        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (May 11, 2011 3:09 pm ET)
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                          Do you think because Jason Robinson said that then, that now that Common has been invited to the White House, no one else at Fox should be allowed to express their concerns or any opinion differing from a music reporter who works for Fox?

                          IF "expressing their concerns" were ALL Fox Noise/right-wing was doing, it wouldn't be a problem.

                          But THAT is NOT what Fox/right-wing is doing.

                          I know, YOU know it and most people who have a little common sense KNOW IT!!

                          The Fox Noise/right-wing theme, since the moment Obama was elected president was to paint Obama as the "scary Black man with scary militant Black friends who want to pay White folks back for slavery".

                          Rapper Common is simply ANOTHER "invent a scandal" brought to you by the Fox Noise/GOP/right-wing because nothing scares some White folks like imagining Black folks with a lot of power!

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                          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 4:01 pm ET)
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                            Sorry, pearlene, I respect your position, but the Fox News 'scary black man' argument is a weak one here, and quite frankly, a lazy one. Not after a ten day period of, while still criticizing him, have been very praising of his killing UBL.

                            Saying "I know, YOU know it and most people who have a little common sense KNOW IT!!" with two exclamation points at the end tells me you think it's the case and it should be obvious, but it's not clear enough that you can make any kind of a case for it, but if I don't agree with you, it's because I'm the one that doesn't have any common sense'.

                            Jay Carney just said Obama opposes the kind of lyrics that Fox News was critical of, so Obama obviously is in agreement with them on that criticism.
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                            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (May 11, 2011 6:05 pm ET)
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                              Sorry, pearlene, I respect your position, but the Fox News 'scary black man' argument is a weak one here, and quite frankly, a lazy one. Not after a ten day period of, while still criticizing him, have been very praising of his killing UBL.

                              Weak? of course it's "weak" IF you CHOOSE to ignore the obvious.

                              One of the reasons race is such a hard issue for folks like yourself to understand is because unless some White person yells out the "N" word, you can't and don't see racism when it's staring you in the face.

                              Do we as African Americans sometimes overreact when it comes to racism? Absolutely!

                              But when it happens again, and again, AND again, you run out of plausible reasons why something is happening. And in the case of the right-wing, the 24/7/365 criticize ANYTHING Obama becomes MORE than just criticism of a Democratic president.

                              Is the entire right-wing racists? NO! But the right-wing KNOWS what works. And they KNOW their are plenty of folks within their 90% White party that fears Black folks. So they NEVER miss an opportunity to play upon their party's fear.

                              The HISTORY of the right-wing is something ANYONE can read about if they care to take the time. So then you add in the Southern Strategy that has finally been publicly acknowledged, it becomes one more factor. And when you look back over the Obama presidency, read the public comments by right-wing talk radio and their public relations firm aka Fox Noise, a CLEAR pattern emerges.

                              President Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama, Professor Henry Louis Gates, Rev. Wright, Van Jones, The New Black Panthers, Attorney General Eric Holder and others have ALL been headline news with a racial slant applied to all.

                              But let's take a look at another Obama White House invitee, Paul McCartney.

                              Did YOU know McCarthy co-wrote a song with the lyrics, "I'd rather see you dead little girl than to be with another man."? And in another of his compositions depicts a serial murder on a killing spree that involves bludgeoning a teacher to death with a hammer. He also wrote a song that glorified the Soviet Union at the height of its Cold War power?

                              And did YOU know Bush revealed in an interview, some of his favorite illegally downloaded songs, including one with the lyrics, "Such a dirty mind..I always get it up..for the touch..of the younger kind."?

                              ANY right-wing outrage? NO WAY!

                              Even when President Obama made the gutsy call on OBL, the right-wing couldn't give HIM praise without adding Bush deserved credit. Knowing full well IF the mission had turned sour ALL of their blame would have been directed ONLY towards President Obama.

                              IF Fox Noise was ONLY critical of a few lyrics, it should be a simple 1/2 day story. But Fox Noise wants to help- the right-wing by making a simple 1/2 day story into a week criticism of President Obama.

                              It's their pattern if you care to look.
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                    • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
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                      Did you ever listen to Ted Nugent and enjoy his music
                      Not since the Amboy Dukes. What does that have to do with the fact that Nugent is a disgusting, know-nothing chickenhawk who walked around for a week with a load in his drawers to get out of the draft? How many kids died in his place?
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 3:20 pm ET)
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                        Eric Hananoki, if he were inclined and was being consistent, would say that since you're a liberal, liberals, unfortunately, debunked their own smear. He would headline it like this:

                        "Listened to Amboy Dukes": Liberals' Smear Of "Chickenhawk" Ted Nugent Debunked By Own Admission
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                    • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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                      Ted Nugent's music is awful. No, I do not listen to it. But yes, he can certainly be invited to the White House without someone pretending to get upset about it. But then, I am intellectually honest with myself unlike you and Fox News.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 4:07 pm ET)
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                        mikechuck, I'm not opposed to Common appearing at the White House. I don't care. I think people have the right to criticize it, and I don't think it's hypocritical on Fox News part to express that criticism simply because a reporter in the past had paid a compliment to him.

                        But if you think for one minute that had a Republican president, namely one George W. Bush, had invited Ted Nugent to the White House and it wouldn't have been met with strong, hysterical criticism from Dems/progs/liberals/leftists, then I would have to say you are a seriously ill-informed individual.
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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                          Wrong again:

                          "...Incidentally, was Rove manning the vetting desk when President Bush invited “the Prince of Darkness” Ozzy Osbourne to dinner at the White House in 2002? Not only has Osbourne bit the heads off multiple animals, he was sued twice for his song “Suicide Solution” after two teenagers took their lives..."

                          and

                          Hip Hop mogul Russell Simmons even pointed out that he sent rappers from his Def Poetry Jam Broadway show to Bush’s White House. “[The right-wing] didn’t say nothing,” he noted, adding “There’s nothing that Common could say that was more critical of the U.S. government than all the poets of my Broadway show. It won a Tony.”

                          "...But the difference now is there’s an African American in the White House — one who also has been labeled a “thug” and, as the American Prospect’s Adam Serwer notes, has “spent the last few years facing accusations of covert black militancy from Republicans.” Thus, for the right-wing, a meeting of two “thugs” must a “faux-scandal” make..."


                          "...Common responded with this posting on Facebook:

                          Politics is politics and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I respect that. The one thing that shouldn’t be questioned is my support for the police officers and troops that protect us every day. Peace yall!..."


                          and to clarify your comment from Carney


                          "...Today, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said that while Obama opposes some of Common’s lyrics, he is still standing by his invitation of the rapper. “He’s known as a socially conscious hip hop artist or rapper, who in fact, has done, a lot of good things,” offered Carney. “You can oppose some of what he’s done and appreciate some of the other things he’s done.”

                          Your text to link here...

                          Not exactly what you represented and tell us again how you think the New York Times is a leftist paper.


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                          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 6:12 pm ET)
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                            conger, reading your posts is mentally exhaustive and it gives me a headache. Do us both a favor and stop obsessing over me. If I'm the person you think I am it makes no sense on your part to follow me around everywhere.

                            Obama stood by Reverend Wright, too.

                            For a while, anyway.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 7:29 pm ET)
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                              Pfffffffffff. kiss my arse you bircher/birther/racist.
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                        • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 5:10 pm ET)
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                          But if you think for one minute that had a Republican president, namely one George W. Bush, had invited Ted Nugent to the White House and it wouldn't have been met with strong, hysterical criticism from Dems/progs/liberals/leftists, then I would have to say you are a seriously ill-informed individual. - hoosier

                          Right. So, once again, you have no facts. You simply "feel" a certain way. Or, you think everyone behaves as you do. Do you really need me to find you the artists that G-Dub had to his White House without the freak-out? Or, would you even let reality in on your ideology in that case?
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                    • Author by chazmanr (May 11, 2011 4:42 pm ET)
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                      I don't disagree that you can't make the claim that Fox "liked" Common on the basis of one story that they ran. However, here is a big flaw in the logic of your argument. You are comparing what one's thought processes are as a teenager to what they are as an adult and asserting that they should remain consistent. Hopefully as one ages, learns and experiences new things, one's views on things will change. If they don't, that individual is never going to be a mature adult or they will wind up as a Republican (zing).
                      In high school, I was completely unpolitical and didn't pay attention to politics. I liked a couple of Nugent's songs when I was a stoned teenager. You couldn't pay me to listen to him today. Not just because of his politics, but due to his extreme lack of talent (lousy singer and even worse guitar player). In the interest of recycling, I now use my Meat Loaf cd's as coasters.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 6:29 pm ET)
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                        I liked Nugent for about a year 35 years ago and haven't since, so I agree with you. I use Neil Young cd's as coasters.

                        You can change your opinion. You can like a singer and dislike a singer and not be a hypocrite, or without debunking what you said about him later when something else happened. That's my point. That's why this kid's blog post here is wrong, especially the headline. Shameful, really. Even if was just the reporter who had changed his mind, it wouldn't be contradictory to say his music was positive and then later say say his lyrics were damaging, and potentially inflammatory, to the point of being at time negative to some people.

                        That's pretty much what Obama said today through Jay Carney, too.

                        Does Eric Hananoki think Obama's smear today debunked his prior thoughts on Common?

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                        • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 6:55 pm ET)
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                          I use Neil Young cd's as coasters.
                          Cool. As long as he gets the money.

                          You can like a singer and dislike a singer and not be a hypocrite
                          It's not a matter of taste but content. Fox didn't have a problem with the content of his music, and then they did. Classic hypocrisy.
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                • Author by psp (May 11, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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                  I think it's fair to criticize the choice of inviting Common to the White House. My only question is, were these same people who are so upset about Common's lyrics equally up in arms about Eazy-E's invite to "A Salute to the Commander in Chief" in 1991? Maybe so. But then, our society survived an invitation from such a VILE lyricist, so I think we'll survive this, too.
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            • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 11:54 am ET)
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              "That makes absolutely no sense at all, Ruby."
              Wrong, it made a lot of sense. The point which is obviously lost on you is that faux had no problem with his lyrics until Obama invited him to the White House. It is the fact that he was invited the White House that upset faux, not his lyrics. faux is completely dishonest, as usual in their criticism. hoosier, are you that dense?
              "Non sequitur argument you guys are making." Back at ya!
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              • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 12:17 pm ET)
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                Specious argument to make that Jason Robinson is Fox News, hoopvillain.

                On the surface it sounds good to you guys, but it's not sound logic.

                The fact that he's being invited to the White House makes it news. You may not like that, but that's just the way it is. That point seems to be lost on you. It's easy to call someone a hypocrite, it's even easier to do it when you can link one reporter with a whole gigantic news organization to link his one comment to anything else ever said about this singer. Eric Hananoki to the easy path. The dishonest one. And you guys seem to not only saying that's ok, but swallowing it whole, too.

                That's kinda sad.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:28 pm ET)
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                  Whats sad is you thinking a lecture from a plagirer and liar like you means anything. No actually it's quite amusing.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 12:35 pm ET)
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                    congero, you're an idiot. I posted a list from a website named Legal Insurrection that I was directed to from memeorandum.com the morning of the release of the birth certificate, that was posted in the comments, and that had no author and did not look in any way to be proprietary or specific, but merely a list of true statements. I never pretended or acted like it was my own. You have no clue even how to spell plagiarism, much less what it is or what constitutes it.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:50 pm ET)
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                      Well what do you call it when you post from another blogger or website without highlighting the site you took it from? You most certainly did play like it was your own words. Funny you criticizing me for my spelling the many times you chastized others for pointing out your own spelling errors. i've come to expect this kind of dishonesty from you and you never let me down.


                      pla·gia·rizedpla·gia·riz·ing
                      Definition of PLAGIARIZE
                      transitive verb
                      : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source



                      Your text to link here...


                      You are a theiving liar.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:08 pm ET)
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                        No, congero, you're just an idiot who spouts charges he doesn't know the first thing about.

                        Here, look at it carefully. There is no author for this list and I never made a claim it was my own, never once, never pretended to. You have no idea what plagiarism is.
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:19 pm ET)
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                          Yea I know what the post was. It was the same one found at wehateAmerica website too. My point is you just copied the post and didn't even link to the legal insurrection(I bet it the tea-bagging site was formed after Obama became POTUS;just a guess lol). You pretended it was your own words and only after it was found on the wehateAmerica website did you start claiming it wassn't yours but someone elses;lol, as if that made what you did any better. You are lying,stealing bircher/birther/racist who believes the ends justify the means and that website doesn't help your case. Pathetic
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                          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:53 pm ET)
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                            What's pathetic is that you had at least twenty other websites where that same list was posted that you could've dishonestly linked me to instead of that one, but you not only chose that one, you've continued to post that website in a promotional way at least 70 times now. You obviously are attracted to the words 'we hate America'. They obviously have a nice ring to them. The words are like poetry to you. One time, perhaps, congero. But after twenty times your intentions became suspicious. The 30th time it became glaringly obvious. Now, the 70th time it's nothing more than obnoxious. We get it, you hate America. No one is surprised by that any more. Give it a rest. No one is going to think less or any more of you any more;

                            they'll still just keep on ignoring you.
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                            • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 2:02 pm ET)
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                              Yea,yea,yea...keep flailing and failing bircher/birther/racist. The other links you posted carry similar themes if not the words. Now it's time for you to tell us how many black friends you have.
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                              • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 2:14 pm ET)
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                                He is liked be "the blacks".
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                                • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 3:33 pm ET)
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                                  hoopvillain, you and congero can go out and get ten more guys just like you to call me racist, but none of you can make a case for it, but I invite you to keep trying.
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                                  • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:43 pm ET)
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                                    hoopvillain, you and congero can go out and get ten more guys just like you to call me racist, but none of you can make a case for it, but I invite you to keep trying.
                                    Spoken like a true racist.
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                                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 5:05 pm ET)
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                                    Didn't go out and get anyone hosed. People are drawing their own conclusions. Your sheet is not hard to see.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:31 pm ET)
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                  You got new evidence that convicts Hurricaine? You are hilarious if it you weren't so pathetic. Was Hurricaine railraoded the 2nd trial? WTF!
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 12:58 pm ET)
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                    Never said that, just asked you a simple question. He got a second trial and it's not commonly held that he was railroaded the second time. Asking you to clarify your statements when 95% of the time they are borderline indecipherable at worst and extremely difficult to understand at best doesn't give you blanket license to make false presumptions about the request for clarification, congero.

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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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                      lol. not even going to dignify your tripe with anything more than you are full of s**t.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 1:10 pm ET)
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                        Ha! You've done a lot of dignifying today, then.

                        But now you're going to stop dignifying it seems.

                        Way to take a stand, congero.

                        You are simply the man.
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                    • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 2:17 pm ET)
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                      "He got a second trial and it's not commonly held that he was railroaded the second time."
                      Wrong, the second trial was identical to the first and he was railroaded in the precise, exact same way. It wasnt until the federal court overturned the conviction as he was never going to get a fair trial in the Apartheid Republic of New Jersey.
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                • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 12:32 pm ET)
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                  "Specious argument to make that Jason Robinson is Fox News,"
                  hoosier are you that clueless? He begins his segment with "I'm James Robinson reporting for Fox News.com" The clip even has the Fox News logo on it. So, tell me how do you tell if it is Fox News or not? That doesnt make him Fox News?
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:39 pm ET)
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                    Thats exactly what he opens with but we are suppose to take hosed word when we have JR words on the video.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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                    You're falling for the semantics game that MMfA teaches it's interns the first day they start work, hoopvillain.

                    Here's an example:Top Breitbart Blogger: "Remember What Rush Said About Donovan McNabb?

                    Media Matters Minion: ‘Breitbart Blogger’ Tweets Trash Talk About NFL Game, All Breitbart’s Fault

                    You see, he's not "Larry O'Connor, someone who blogs at Big Journalism.com", but "Top Breitbart Blogger". The emphasis, dishonest as it is, is that he's a top Breitbart blogger, not someone who has blogged there.

                    Jason Robinson reports for Fox News. Fox News does not debunk in any way, shape or form what anyone last night that comments for Fox, or reports for Fox, said about the fact, the new fact, irrespective of what Jason Robinson said six months ago, that Common was invited to the White House.

                    That's not what Eric Hananoki's headline said, though.

                    They're instructed to do that, hoopvillain. They get paid full-time salaries to do that. You obviously condone it, too. Fine, good for you, just don't think it's fooling anyone.

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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:00 pm ET)
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                      You are delusional if you think your mumbled post proved anything.
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                    • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 1:09 pm ET)
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                      So, you are saying that what faux reports today may not be true next week. If what James Robinson says on faux then is still what faux reported. You cant argue that well, they dont believe it anymore because Common is now invited to the White House. What faux says about Common then is what they should say now. Nothing about those lyrics has changed. What has changed is that he was invited to the White House. Now it is a problem because Obama is involved and faux opposes any and everything Obama, regardless of what it is. If Obama said Lou Dobbs is the greatest, they would fire Lou Dobbs.
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            • Author by mari2jj (May 12, 2011 2:05 am ET)
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              No dear, all we are asking for is a teensy weensy bit of consistency. AND, we are not getting it from the Fox crew. But no surprise. They are masters at twisting every fact, even when they had the artist in question on their network. Obviously, Fox also then promoted this horribly vile rapper person also. In fact they did it first so when they thought he was fine to have on air, that probably misled the White House even and we can blame them for the White House appearance. See how silly their circular argument is!
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            • Author by barscotch9441 (May 13, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
                 
              The footage is real, moron. Deny that a Fox News reporter said his music was positive. Go ahead. If you can do that with a straight face, and you are an actual hoosier, then I am ashamed to call myself one.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 11, 2011 11:58 am ET)
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          Well... in your defense, the reporter who wasn't condemning him was black, so... maybe it's just a race thing?

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          Idiot
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        • Author by Another_Cat (May 11, 2011 3:34 pm ET)
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          I think that I understand what you are saying...however:

          Unless there was a disclaimer that the veiws of the interviewer do not reflect the views of Fox news, etc., then it is implicit that the comments an interviewer makes are, at the very least, accepted by the broadcast company, unless;

          Any other commenter, representing the broadcast company, decries the statements by the interviewer as not representing the views of the company.

          As far as I can tell, neither situation occurred, even today; therefore the appearance is that they agreed back then, and now they don't, with no visible transition inbetween, save that Obama has invited the rapper to the White House. Ergo, the two instances smack of hypocisy at least, and political pandering/fake outrage/racism at worst.

          You have failed to provide anything contradicting this.

          And as far as I can see in this thread, you have failed to backup your assertion that this is "very deceptive reporting by Eric Hananoki", as well.
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        • Author by runnerin1 (May 11, 2011 8:24 pm ET)
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          How many exec's at Fox News had to ok this 'single reporter' piece before it aired?
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          • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 8:34 pm ET)
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            faux does not do news that would require fact checking, source checking, questioning the validity of information and reporting objectively, all of which they are not capable.
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    • Author by mk3872 (May 10, 2011 4:19 pm ET)
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      What? There is no actual NEWS to report on @ Fox today?
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      • Author by boulderhippy (May 10, 2011 4:24 pm ET)
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        There is plenty of news @ FOX today. MMFA can only find this to criticize. I would say that is a sign that they aren't as evil as you and MMFA try to make them out to be.
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        • Author by IntelSebastian (May 10, 2011 4:32 pm ET)
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          Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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        • Author by handsomejack54 (May 10, 2011 4:33 pm ET)
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          MMFA is posting this to show just how petty and childish conservatives can be in criticizing people that have connections to the Obama administration.
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        • Author by armendale (May 10, 2011 4:59 pm ET)
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          keep your faith in FOX, BH. It's sheep like you they're counting on.
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        • Author by ponymeup (May 10, 2011 5:00 pm ET)
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          Fox has never and will never "report news". I challenge anybody to show me one ounce of journalism emanating from their network. they don't do news. They do scandal and not much else. It's like National Enquirer bought a tv station.
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        • Author by bintx (May 10, 2011 5:16 pm ET)
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          No, there is very, very little "news" on Fox. There is a lot of opinion and made up "news" reports, such as this one, but "news"? Not so much. Fox isn't a news network. It's a cable opinion network.
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          • Author by VictorLaszlo (May 10, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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            You're still giving them too much credit. It's a propaganda and disinformation outlet.
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          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:22 am ET)
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            THis story was brought up on their opinion shows.

            Your post is a non-sequitur.

            Common uses lyrics that are vile to many. One reporter at Fox News in an interview prefaced a question to him as a lead-in that his music was positive. Six months later that rapper is invited to the White House and opinion shows express dismay at that decision based on some of the more egregiously vile lyrics, and MMfA writes a story that claims because of this one reporter's lead-in supposition, that it debunks the opinion by several other people at Fox that Common is a vile rapper.

            Pretty obvious the ones being dishonest here are Media Matters.
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            • Author by Ruby (May 11, 2011 9:28 am ET)
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              Incorrect. This story was covered on their "hard news" shows. Bret Baier covered it. And another "hard news" anchor. She has blonde hair but I can't remember her name.
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              • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:54 am ET)
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                Bret Baier on the Nightly Round Table when he asks journalists their opinions on news stories?

                I never said it wasn't brought up in their news shows, but it was mainly an opinion show topic on a slow news day.

                Those shows have to fill up space, someone has to talk. Eric Hananoki has to put out stories; he's paid a full time salary to do so. He can choose what he wants to pretend to be outraged at and follow a narrowly defined narrative for. That's all this is in a nutshell, a one or two day cycle of nothing with both sides acting like idiots and displaying dishonesty and deception. MMfA is just as guilty.
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              • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:28 am ET)
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                They're pretty much interchangeable.
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        • Author by Quiet Tom (May 10, 2011 8:00 pm ET)
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          Maybe if the Fox News website hadn't made this their lead story, I would say your point would be less doochie.
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        • Author by OHerro (May 10, 2011 9:24 pm ET)
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          Hannity's already dedicated at least half of his show to this
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      • Author by VictorLaszlo (May 10, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
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        Why would there be news at Fox?

        Fox doesn't have a news organization. They do have a TV channel with 'News' in the name, but certainly we all understand that that doesn't make it a news organization.

        Why are there no clowns or elephants at Piccadilly Circus?
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      • Author by hoopvillain (May 11, 2011 8:36 pm ET)
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        faux does not do news that would require fact checking, source checking, questioning the validity of information and reporting objectively, all of which they are not capable.
        I meant to respond here, not above.
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    • Author by raine315 (May 10, 2011 4:39 pm ET)
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      Conservative media will try their best to make our First Family seem like a bunch of crazed radicals no matter who they have to smear in the process. Fox ect. would make the Huxtable kids(Cosby Show)out to be gang bangers if they have to.
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      • Author by $RedistributionDoesNotWork (May 11, 2011 1:24 am ET)
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        The First Family ARE a bunch of crazed radicals. btw, it's etc., not ect. lol
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    • Author by Pinhead (May 10, 2011 4:52 pm ET)
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      Listening to Common as I write this:

      I guess Fox's taste in music is jingoists like Tobe Keith and bigoted a-holes like Charlie Daniels.
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      • Author by Sonic Al (May 10, 2011 6:29 pm ET)
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        what always makes me laugh about conservative performers like Toby Keith (who is allegedly a Democrat!), Charlie Daniels and Ted Nugent is they'll wrap themselves in the flag but none of them EVER served in military. Chicken-hawks. Nugent even bragged about not bathing for a week and defecating in his pants to avoid serving in Vietnam.
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        • Author by ImaBore (May 10, 2011 7:33 pm ET)
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          Nugent was fined on two misdeamenor counts of illegally using bait when hunting deer last year in California. He initially faced a charge of killing an immature buck, but his attorney negotiated with the DA to have that charge dropped.
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          • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 3:02 am ET)
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            What a guy. A real man's man.....take that however you want.
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      • Author by riverdog (May 11, 2011 3:36 pm ET)
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        hey don't dis toby. he is one of the good guys.
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    • Author by SMTDL (May 10, 2011 4:54 pm ET)
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      Palin talked about Presidential cajones,WTF on a SOTU speech;calls a critic "knuckle dragging Neanderthal"
      ,and talks about a limp/impotent media and (mainstream)Republican leadership.Now please tell me again how she isn't more vile since there wasn't even an artistic slant to her coarseness! Limbaugh says far worse but Fox never called him vile!Michael Savage,Michelle Malkin,Dr Laura,etc.and others are pretty vile to me,but they are Fox heroes and heroines!!
      ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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    • Author by ponymeup (May 10, 2011 4:55 pm ET)
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      You have to see this through Fox's eyes. He no longer has anything that can be turned to their point of view so he has become one of "them".
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    • Author by bailorgana (May 10, 2011 4:57 pm ET)
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      I wonder if Jason Robinson got fired for doing that interview?
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    • Author by Brian in FL (May 10, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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      Not that it's fair, but I could just as easily smear right-wingers like Hannity and Palin who appear at concerts with people like Ted Nugent.

      Look up some of Nugent's lyrics, like his band Amboy Dukes' song "Great White Buffalo" which calls Europeans "white dogs" with "thick and empty heads".

      Does this mean Palin and Hannity hate white people??? lol
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      • Author by Ribelin2000 (May 10, 2011 6:03 pm ET)
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        That's what makes me mad about empty-headed right-wing hypocrites like Hannity. They'll whine all night about how rap music is destroying the youth of America, yet they openly embrace Nugent, a singer who howls in his songs about crushing women's faces and tells Hilary Clinton to "suck on (his) machine gun" while calling her a b----. Hannity wants us to believe that Nugent's just "playing a character" and that it's all in good fun.

        In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that parasite Hannity actually whines about Common on his show tonight-and yet he'd probably have no problem whatsoever if Nugent was invited by the White House!
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      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 11:09 am ET)
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        You're saying you could smear them, but you won't, Brian. How very noble of you, but both Hannity and Palin were smeared for that.

        An [url=http://www.oliverwillis.com/2011/01/03/gop-fundraiser-headlined-by-adulterous-country-crooner/]MMfA blogger recently smeared Republicans[/url for inviting Lee Ann Rimes to one of their functions. Somehow this was hypocrisy because she cheated on her first husband to have her sing, or something.

        Both sides engage in this.



        It only underlines how stupid the whole debate is.
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        • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 11:25 am ET)
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          Is there a difference between a "blogger" and a "news network"? I would argue that there is.
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          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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            The headline here is deceptive and dishonest, and the accompanying story is a non sequitor and no evidence of hypocrisy whatsoever in the way Fox has presented this story after his being invited to the White House.

            It is sabotage. It's what MMfA said they were going to do.
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            • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 3:14 pm ET)
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              And you provided so much evidence to back up your claims that i have no choice but to believe you, and...

              Oh, wait. You provided nothing.
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    • Author by pete x tp (May 10, 2011 5:11 pm ET)
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      Oh nooooooo! He also attends Reverend Wrights church. That's all that the FAUXhounds need to smear someone as "vile".
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    • Author by Always Right (May 10, 2011 5:13 pm ET)
         
      The leftist Huffington Post supports the white house position. Shocking!
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    • Author by Kid Funkadelic (May 10, 2011 6:15 pm ET)
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      The next time Kid Rock is at a Republican function someone should mention his friend David Allen Coe. Google his name and you will be shocked. He's well know in Country Music, he's kept as their "little secret". The next time someone tells you how clean Country Music is, whip out Mr. Coe.
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    • Author by SMTDL (May 10, 2011 6:20 pm ET)
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      I recall how the President was asked about what Music he listens to and he said " everything from Frank Sinatra to Lil Wayne.The Fox nation headline ran was " OBama listens to Gangsta Rap!!!"
      That is their definition of fair and balanced.Its all about how to portray the 1st Black president as illegitimate,different,radical,inappropriate,illegal,blah blah.That is why they promote every conspiracy theory and smear from right wing media/blogospere even when its been debunked/ discredited.They never correct or apologize.Its all Propaganda 24/7 not even close to real journalism.
      Look at how Bill O'Reilly andBret Baier behaved when interviewing President Bush vs President Obama.They were disgusting in their disrespect and somehow want to claim they are being unfairly maligned!!!
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    • Author by beDecent (May 10, 2011 7:17 pm ET)
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      "A Song For Assata" has the potential to bring a tear to my eye, if I'm in a certain type of mood.

      Don't tell FOX it's about a Black Panther with political asylum in Cuba, though--they'll think she was intimidating voters or something.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (May 10, 2011 7:36 pm ET)
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      Oops, shoulda checked the archives first Mr. Ailes. Meanwhile Fox hosts people like Ted Nugent regularly for his opinion on just about anything. Take a listen to some of old Teds' lyrics you morally superior people at fox you.
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    • Author by shadetail.us1808 (May 10, 2011 10:31 pm ET)
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      Oopsie. The White House invited another black person over for the day. *sigh* What ever happened to my America?

      (end sarcasm)
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    • Author by powerblue (May 11, 2011 1:00 am ET)
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      After smearing the rapper Common during his first segment, Hannity invited his audience to participate in a poll on his show tonight, asking whether the "vile rapper" should be disinvited to the White House. I wonder which way his older white audience will vote?

      Then when the poll goes overwhelmingly against the "vile rapper" they can all feel justified that "the American people" are with them on this issue, and thus against President Obama once again.
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      • Author by powerblue (May 11, 2011 1:37 am ET)
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        That's funny! You want real jokes? Trump, Huckabee, Gingrich, Romney, Bachmann, etc...

        But don't worry, you'll be rid of Obama in 2017.
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      • Author by takemycountryback (May 11, 2011 9:01 am ET)
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        Hey $RedistributionDoesNotWork - First, your comments are actually redistributing your ignorance and you are correct in that regard that it does not work. Please try to sound somewhat intelligent here if you don;t want to just be insulted regularly, which you will be. Lefties are not known for being nice. We are known for being smarter than those on the right. Remember that jackas*!
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (May 11, 2011 10:57 am ET)
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          $RedistributionDoesNotWork

          It sure seems to work for the upper 2%. More and more of the wealth keeps getting redistributed to them.
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        • Author by $RedistributionDoesNotWork (May 11, 2011 6:41 pm ET)
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          Essentially, most far-lefties ARE known to be jackas&^s, just look at Alan Colmes, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, the list is endless. Your posit of " ... We are known for being smarter than those on the right ..." is laughable. If you think redistribution really works, check out Cuba, Russia, etc. Without Soros money, you jerks would be out of business. You sicken me.
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          • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 6:52 pm ET)
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            We are known for being smarter than those on the right
            Well, part of your post is right.
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    • Author by MRF (May 11, 2011 1:56 am ET)
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      It's a poetry event for gods sake. At least we have a WH that encourages the arts and culture. If pro-Nazi poet Ezra Pound was still alive Fox would have him on for "balance"
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      • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:58 am ET)
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        To an uninformed public, poetry begins with Angelou and ends with Whitman. All the rest are "gagsta rappers".
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    • Author by OOzinEvil (May 11, 2011 2:08 am ET)
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      The Huffington Post's Jason Linkins writes that Common is "not what I consider to be a 'gangsta rapper' or particularly prone to any of hip-hop's legendary excesses

      According to MMfA, if a HufPo resource debunks any "outrage" then the matter is settled.
      Lest we forget he wrote a poem about burning the former President. Thats history. Nothing to see there.
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      • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 3:09 am ET)
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        The way I understood it, from someone who has actually heard the song, it was "burning bush" as in that little story in the Bible? Did Blondie lead you astray with her biased opinion? Have guest on with intelligence and credibility and then shut her up when she didn't agree with the Fux corporate stand? Just asking.
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        • Author by takemycountryback (May 11, 2011 9:05 am ET)
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          Honestly tolerant. I would think you would be a fan of someone named "common" as you really seem to be.
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          • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:17 am ET)
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            Clever. when you don't have an intelligent response, fall back on petty insults. I think you are way out-classed by everyone here. I suggest you back to the crooked sites that feed you the poison in which you dip your pen. Ignorance is bliss. You must be very happy.
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            • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:39 am ET)
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              takemycountryback, If you say you're one of "the left", our side is in big trouble. Did I say I was a fan? No. Was there a purpose to your post? No.
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          • Author by NMFreelancer (May 11, 2011 2:10 pm ET)
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            Yawwwwnnn!!!...
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        • Author by OOzinEvil (May 11, 2011 3:04 pm ET)
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          The lyric from the poem, A Letter to the Law
          Burn a Bush cos for peace he no push no button
          Killing over oil and grease
          No weapons of destruction
          How can we follow a leader when this a corrupt one?


          Link
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          • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 3:23 pm ET)
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            So that's one of Common's lyrics? Because if it isn't (and it isn't), then it's a non sequitur and just another attempt to deflect and change the subject away from a topic you can't argue honestly.
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      • Author by Kid Funkadelic (May 11, 2011 3:57 am ET)
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        You don't seem too upset when Ted Nugent wanted to sodomize the POTUS and Secretary of State with a handgun and a shotgun. Now that IS sick.
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        • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:29 am ET)
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          The left was outraged at that.

          Many of those same people very likely loved Ted Nugent's music growing up.

          The ridiculousness of this article by Eric Hananoki would be matched by telling you, Kid Funkadelic, that by once being a fan of any of Nugent's music, you would be a hypocrite and a liar now to say what he said about the POTUS and the SoS was 'sick'.
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          • Author by JoeSixpack (May 11, 2011 12:07 pm ET)
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            Maybe if anyone still cared about Ted's music, he wouldn't have turned into such a jacka$$. The guy's last hit was over 30 years ago, and it seems to me like he's just desperate for some sort of relevance. Just sayin'.
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            • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 12:56 pm ET)
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              Here's the lyrics from Nugent's biggest hit:

              Well I don't know where they come from
              But they sure do come
              I hope they comin' for me
              And I don't know how they do it
              But they sure do it good
              I hope they doin' it for free

              They give me cat scratch fever
              Cat scratch fever

              The first time that I got it
              I was just ten years old
              I got it from some kitty next foor
              I went and see the Dr. and
              He gave me the cure
              I think I got it some more

              They give me cat scratch fever
              Cat scratch fever

              It's nothin dangerous
              I feel no pain
              I've got to ch-ch-change
              You know you got it when you're going insane
              It makes a grown man cryin' cryin'
              Won't you make my bed

              I make the pu$$y purr with
              The stroke of my hand
              They know they gettin' it from me
              They know just where to go
              When they need their lovin man
              They know I do it for free

              They give me cat scratch fever
              Cat scratch fever


              You gotta love those "family values" Republicans.
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              • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:00 pm ET)
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                Oh, I had forgotten that his other hit from that album was titled "Wango Tango". 'Nuff said.
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              • Author by mikehuck76 (May 12, 2011 7:31 pm ET)
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                Let me be clear. I still think there is nothing wrong with Nugent being invited to the White House. I think his music is awful. However, I have to say that this written out as a poem is certainly more impressive than anything Toby Keith or most of the other no talent singing stars of today sing.
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                • Author by RightChis1 (May 12, 2011 8:02 pm ET)
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                  My older sister had his big album in the late 70s. I was just a young child but she'd heard it played many times as we shared a room. I too have no problem with it. In fact, bad rock is almost always superior to supposed "good" country. I hate country. The point is that this is the guy that "family values" Republicans support. They are hypocrites.
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          • Author by yoiksaway (May 11, 2011 8:55 pm ET)
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            Wow, hoosier, your [generalizations and implications] / [word count] ratio is really high. Something like 40 posts of they-have-a-right-to-criticize-the-President and Robinson-doesn't-reflect-Fox? That is a lot of nothing.

            Your argument then gets torn down because the argument criticizing Common has little merit, but in your world, any criticism is worthy of national attention no matter what the merit, just because it's criticism I guess. And you don't care. Wow, way to take a stand, defending the opportunistically righteous with your vague-at-best position to back it up.

            You are so unclear that I can't tell if you see the world as all grey or just black-and-white, because your expression of it changes from sentence to sentence.

            Jeezus, if you have something to say, say it and then back it up. "More controversial lyrics"--what the heck is that? Write 'em down and explain why. You post a state trooper statement and what he said is your foundation? Convicted = guilty? Common's poem expressed that he didn't believe Shakur was guilty. He didn't say he's glad the cop is dead. Please justify Fox's journalism regarding Common with respect to Pearlene's post that you haven't yet replied to.

            All I see you doing is farting and leaving the room. Forty times.
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            • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:52 pm ET)
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              yoiksaway, my argument all along has been that Eric Hananoki wrote a headline that was dishonest. No slight to him, but Jason Robinson is a relatively obscure reporter, and the show in which he interviewed Common, "The Hot Spot" is an obscure segment. Equating that fluff piece six months ago with current reporting that according to Hananoki somehow debunks Fox's criticism of him now, is amateurish on his part. Even worse, it's false.

              I haven't taken a stand one way or the other because I don't know him or his music. I can see a group of state troopers in NJ being sensitive to the White House promoting him, but that doesn't mean I can't also see his supporters defending him from lyrics that they feel are misunderstood by people who don't know him. If I cared to spend the time to get to know his lyrics just for the sake of argument, and because I felt compelled to take a stand one way or the other, then I'd do that, but I don't. Not when this will be a forgotten subject in less than two days.

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              • Author by yoiksaway (May 12, 2011 5:58 pm ET)
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                So Robinson is wrong? He does not debunk the "vile rapper" position?

                You say that Robinson does not represent Fox?

                What part of "Debunked By Own Reporting" is dishonest? Robinson was on Fox.
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      • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 5:32 pm ET)
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        Lest we forget he wrote a poem about burning the former President. Thats history. Nothing to see there. - OOzin

        Oh, so it is really the whole concept of a metaphor that has you confused. My apologies, Oozin, you need more explanation than we have time to give.
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    • Author by ProgLib (May 11, 2011 5:39 am ET)
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      WOW... an African American reporter with a diamond earring working at Fox News? Isn't that be the type of person Bill O'Reilly would think yells "MF'er I want more iced tea" and "I'm gonna pop a cap in your @ss"? Better yet, probably the kind of black man that O'Reilly thinks does cocaine, like he thought Marc Lamont Hill does.
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      • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:32 am ET)
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        "Isn't that be the type of person..."


        Are you making fun of the way you think he talks, ProgLib, or is that a little jab at how you think all Africa Americans talk? Or just African Americans who have sold their soul to the devil and gone to work for Fox?

        Your mask is slipping there, don't you think?
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        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:07 am ET)
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          Your mask ,er sheet has been shown.
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          • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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            Anyone who works for Fox "news" has sold his soul to the devil.
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        • Author by ProgLib (May 11, 2011 8:35 pm ET)
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          When did I ever mention anything about the way the reporter talked, hoosier?

          By the way, my posting was meant to maintain a sarcastic tone... something you obviously didn't comprehend (or didn't want to), so you could blame me for being a racist. Nice try.
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          • Author by hoosier (May 11, 2011 9:03 pm ET)
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            Was that a typo or something, then, Prog?

            "Isn't that be the type of person.....?

            I apologize if you intend didn't put the 'be' in there on purpose to mock the way he was talking.



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            • Author by ProgLib (May 12, 2011 11:40 pm ET)
                 
              Yes, that was a mistype. I missed it initially. I probably meant to say "wouldn't" rather than "isn't" at the beginning of the sentence.
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    • Author by Bro1555 (May 11, 2011 9:32 am ET)
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      This is a non story here and shouldn't be taken seriously. Look, the Obama Administration found and killed Bin Laden so Faux News can no longer charge him with being soft on defense. Pres. Obama released his long form birth certificate so Faux News can no longer flirt with this birtherism by devoting segments on its shows with Donald Trump and others questioning Obama's citizenship. Faux News is grasping at straws and really being jerks by making a story out of non-story. To demonize Common as vile, one of more insightful and positive rappers out there based on a, lets face it, bad poem is sladerous & a defamation of Common as a rapper. Faux should be ashamed of themselves and only described Common in an hyperbolic manner to sensationalize this story. Oh I forget, we're talking about Faux News, they have no shame when it comes to their criticisms of the Obama Administration. Secondly, Faux News & Sean Hannity, who made a big issue of this on his show tonight are hypocrits. Back in Aug. 2007, Rock musician Ted Nuget went on stage holding a gun on stage calling then Sen. Obama a "punk & a piece of Sh!T then proceeded to hold another gun up and called Hillary Clinton "a worthless b*tch. Hannity and Fox defended Nugent saying that if you don't like what he says, don't by his CD, don't go to his concerts ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYmFAwhmqaU). For Fox to make a big deal of speaks more about them and their bias more than it speaks about Common or POTUS or First Lady Obama. Lastly, I wonder if the same right wing conservatives who were making an issue of this just as outrage when then Pres. Bush 41 invited Eazy-E to a white house dinner during his administration, I'm just saying...
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      • Author by tolerant (May 11, 2011 10:19 am ET)
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        Desperation is an ugly beast. I fear we will see much more of it as the country moves in the better, read "not right" direction.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 10:25 am ET)
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        Well said Bro1555.
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        • Author by Bro1555 (May 11, 2011 10:51 am ET)
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          Thank you
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        • Author by Bro1555 (May 11, 2011 10:57 am ET)
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          This story says more about the double standards, the hypocrisy, and the one sided nature of FoxNews.com, Sarah Palin, and Sean Hannity than it does about either Common or POTUS and FLUTUS Obama.
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    • Author by antilib (May 11, 2011 11:47 am ET)
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      I have heard some of his "poetry", he called for the assination of Bush, cop killing and other violence. He said he has a 9mm in one hand and a peace sign in the other. listen to his lyrics.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 11:53 am ET)
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        Pffffffffffffffff!
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      • Author by JoeSixpack (May 11, 2011 12:09 pm ET)
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        Trade the 9 for an AR-15 and swap the peace sign for an American flag and a tea bag and voila! He's now your bestest buddy!
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        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 12:16 pm ET)
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          Right to the heart! lol. ;->
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          • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 12:24 pm ET)
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            This website itself has gone back and forth on personalities. They show favorable opinions of those righties who agree with their point of view. Hypocrites
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            • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 1:00 pm ET)
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              It's hypocritical to praise someone who agrees with you? Really?
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              • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 1:03 pm ET)
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                But roughly half-a-year ago, Fox News had a different tone about Common.

                Yes, if you're going to post about it.
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                • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
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                  I still don't get your point.

                  I guess behind the walls of your gated mansion it makes sense to you. That's ok. We have compassion for the mentally ill.
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                  • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 1:31 pm ET)
                      6
                    My point is this website posted that Fox News praised this guy 6 months ago and ripped him 6 months after. This website does it, too. Judge Napolitano ,for example, on immigration laws in AZ. Loved him when he said the law may have some flaws in it, but posts on everything else he says and they disagree with.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 1:40 pm ET)
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                      Wow you really are confused. You need to look up hypocrisy because you got your wires crossed. Complex thinking doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
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                      • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 2:05 pm ET)
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                        Hardly. This website made a post because Fox News liked and then later disliked somebody while they themselves do it, too.
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 2:08 pm ET)
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                          OK simpleton. I see your thought processes don't go further than black and white. It would be a waste of time to try and explain it to you. lol.
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                          • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 2:23 pm ET)
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                            Since you have no reply, other than calling me "simpleton", I will go with I'm correct.....again.
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                            • Author by JoeSixpack (May 11, 2011 2:38 pm ET)
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                              Keep telling yourself that, Sparky. No one else will. See, hypocrisy doesn't mean you're not allowed to agree with someone on certain issues and disagree with him on others. Hypocrisy is when you take both sides of the same issue, like Fox did with Common. Saying "Napolitano got this one thing right" after having pointed out the many other unrelated things he got wrong is not hypocrisy. You're a simpleton because of your inability to understand basic concepts.
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                              • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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                                What Fox did and MMFA did were the same thing. They agreed with him and disagreed with him....but MMFA made a post about it.
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                                • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 2:58 pm ET)
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                                  Nope.

                                  This definitely falls under the maxim: "You can lead a con to knowledge but you can't make him think"

                                  Fox News wasn't agreeing with Common on a specific issue and then disagreeing with him on a different issue.
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                                  • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:08 pm ET)
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                                    MMFA's post was that Fox News agreed with him 6 months ago, but disagree with him now. MMFA agreed with Politano 4 months ago, but disagree with him now. Try as you guys might, you fail to show the difference.
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                                    • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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                                      Wrong. Fox is pretending to disagree with him now simply because he's associated with Obama. Please try to keep up.
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                                      • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:33 pm ET)
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                                        I see mind reader in your future. But for fun, explain the difference between Fox and MMFA's position.
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                                        • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:40 pm ET)
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                                          I see mind reader in your future. But for fun, explain the difference between Fox and MMFA's position.
                                          We already did many times.
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                                          • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:49 pm ET)
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                                            If you can give me logic on how both places disagree and then agree, and only one is being legit about it....love to hear it.
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                                            • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:51 pm ET)
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                                              love to hear it.
                                              We're on a board. You'll have to settle for seeing it. It's been spelled out many many times.
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                                    • Author by MiniTru (May 11, 2011 3:26 pm ET)
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                                      We don't have to show the difference. You're using a false equivalence.
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                                      • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:46 pm ET)
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                                        Where is the false equivalence? MMFA made a post about Fox agreeing with a person 6 months ago, then disagreeing, and MMFA made a post about agreeing with a person 4 months ago, then disagreeing. And don't give me this "we" crap, doesn't scare me. Tell me yourself, MiniTru.
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                                        • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:48 pm ET)
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                                          You are too stupid to understand. It's been spelled out in black and white. Go back to mourning the loss of your Rosebud.
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                                          • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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                                            If it's been spelled out, then it's in "lefty" speak. Spell it out in something that a rational human being can understand. I'll wait.
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                                            • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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                                              Spell it out in something that a rational human being can understand.
                                              you aren't a rational human being.
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                                              • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 4:02 pm ET)
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                                                Oh, I'm rational except when it comes to taxation. Ask anybody who's been here for a year or so. But spell it out for me anyway. How are Fox and MMFA different in this case, RightC?
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                                                • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 4:05 pm ET)
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                                                  Oh, I'm rational except when it comes to taxation.
                                                  I'm glad you agree that your irrational.

                                                  I know who you are dave. I know you are a fat cat rich a$$hole Scrooge McDuck type of character living behind a gate. Kind of like bin Laden.
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                                                  • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 4:09 pm ET)
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                                                    And that's fine, too. Explain the differnce between Fox and MMFA specifically....slowly....so I and nobody else miss it this time. How are Fox and MMFA doing two different things?
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                                                    • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 4:13 pm ET)
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                                                      Explain the differnce between Fox and MMFA specifically....slowly....so I and nobody else miss it this time
                                                      I'll save some time. Just read the thread above. If you are too stupid to understand, then sorry. That's life in the big city.
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                                                      • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 4:17 pm ET)
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                                                        So you have no answer, too. Priceless.
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                                                        • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 4:29 pm ET)
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                                                          RightC, still waiting for your lefty friends to bail you out?

                                                          Too bad, I'm leaving shortly to play golf...be back in a few.
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                                                          • Author by congero6189599 (May 11, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
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                                                            If you golf anything like you post you are wasting your time.
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                                                            • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 5:17 pm ET)
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                                                              I'm sure that Dave, at the end of his round, will argue his score with his fellow golfers (assuming he can find friends).

                                                              Friend: "Dave, it's right here on the card. You shot 20 over."

                                                              Dave: "No. You still haven't proven it to me. I shot 5 under. You're going to have to prove it to me."

                                                              Friend: "I already did prove it to you by showing you the card."

                                                              Dave: "Nope. Not buying it. You are going to have to explain it to me slowly."
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                                                          • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 4:54 pm ET)
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                                                            You are too stupid to understand.
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                                                        • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 4:54 pm ET)
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                                                          You are too stupid to understand.
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                    • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 5:22 pm ET)
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                      Please show me where MMFA loved him. Otherwise, your equivalence is false.
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        • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:03 pm ET)
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          But that's not what he sang about. He said 9mm, cop killing, and assination of Bush. I have no idea who this guy is, but if this is accurate, which has not been disbuted yet, BO, have fun explaining this one away.
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          • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:25 pm ET)
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            He doesn't have to explain away anything. It's another made up controversy by Fox News. Some of their bile sticks and takes root. Most of it does not.
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            • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:41 pm ET)
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              If this guy sang about "cop killing" and "killing Bush" and he was an invited guest to the WH, BO has alot of explaining to do, as to why he was at the WH in the first place. It will come up. Everything else does.
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              • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 3:47 pm ET)
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                He never said "killing Bush". Nice try.

                It's a ginned up controversy. Fox is great at it. So is The Enquirer.
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                • Author by dave (May 11, 2011 3:59 pm ET)
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                  And that's fine and have never heard his songs. I have no idea who he is. Cop killing?
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                  • Author by RightChis1 (May 11, 2011 4:01 pm ET)
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                    If he was advocating cop killing then that should be condemned. However, I don't think he was.
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              • Author by mikehuck76 (May 11, 2011 5:20 pm ET)
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                Where are your quotes coming from, Dave? I think, perhaps, you have some explaining to do.
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      • Author by Bro1555 (May 11, 2011 12:49 pm ET)
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        First of all, spell assassination correctly. Secondly, Common didn't call for the assassination of Pres. Bush. It's like conservatives hear gun and Bush being said by a rapper, it automatically means that it's a call for Pres. Bush being killed. Next, conservative bloggers catch on to this an makes it an issue. Then, FoxNews.com hears about this story made up story by the right wing bloggers, puts it on their site and to sensationalize the story use hyperbolic, over the top rhetoric like calling the rapper "vile" when he's far from it to make the story more attention grabbing for their conservative/right wing audience, Sean Hannity (or Bill O'Reilly at times) devotes a segment on his show towards as well as making sure to mention again on his show during his "Great American Panel, and Sarah has to chime in with a comment on her Facebook and Twitter page. Finally, folks run on conservative websites calling the rapper a "thug" (typical common term used by the right wing to describe a black male of the hip hop generation who they have a distaste for) and then take their opportunity to bash and demonize POTUS & FLUTUS Obama, doing all of this and raising holy hell about this non-issue without any context of what the rapper was saying in this poem even if admittedly, the poem was pretty bad. Get a clue!!!
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      • Author by ProgLib (May 11, 2011 8:38 pm ET)
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        Obviously, you've never heard rap or hip hop in your life, antilib... because he actually said "burn a bush" (nothing about assassinating him), which doesn't even mean that he wanted to literally BURN or cause harm to George Bush. It's meant to be a play on word for rappers. Listen to rap and hip hop for once in your life and figure out the slang before you run off at the mouth as if you're some expert.
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    • Author by Nihilist (May 11, 2011 12:44 pm ET)
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      newscorp motto: 'never let facts get in the way of a good smear.'
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    • Author by donchep (May 11, 2011 5:26 pm ET)
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      Ok, so Eazy-E can be invited to dinner with Bush Sr. and Ozzy with George W, but Common is too CONTROVERSIAL?
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    • Author by politeradical (May 11, 2011 7:07 pm ET)
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      It's pathetic that this is all the right has to attack on.

      OMG the black first lady invited a black rapper to the white house to do something culturally relevant (and may even have something to do with African American culture *shock* *gasp* *horror*)
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    • Author by ssbstspd (May 11, 2011 7:59 pm ET)
         
      SO whats the problem with fox ? Are you serious about this ? SO what this no-name reporter all of a sudden speaks for the whole fox news network ?? If you can't see the problem with this maybe you need to get your head examined. I listened to hip hop almost my whole life and i know that Common can hold a title of a Poet but still, this guys full of hate speech especially about Cops who are Employees of the government. I have no problem with what Common says in his raps or what he says in public, hes protected by are great constitution. But this guy can not be going to the White house and speak to kids, what kind of a message does that send to are kids who then go back home and listen too what he raps about when they leave the white house. THis is just another really bad decision that this administation made. But of coarse This website will blame fox and will continue too and most members will continue to eat up this garbage.
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    • Author by Adam West (May 11, 2011 8:51 pm ET)
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      Common sucks at rapping. So who cares?
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    • Author by glenn113@comcast.net (May 11, 2011 8:53 pm ET)
         
      I couldn't wait to see how O'Reilly couldn't offer an ounce of proof that he didn't work for Fox.
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    • Author by stevedds (May 12, 2011 3:47 am ET)
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      What next..."Fox News Blasts White House over Visit of Notorious Gangsta Rapper Will Smith"
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      • Author by Kid Funkadelic (May 12, 2011 5:38 pm ET)
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        Well he did write the song "You saw my blinker, B!tch". Watch what happens when he goes to the White House.
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    • Author by lmn36us (May 12, 2011 11:20 am ET)
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      vile is vile no matter who reports on it. watch the video of this monster. It degrades us all to allow this in our White House.
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    • Author by SMTDL (May 13, 2011 12:15 pm ET)
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      Does anyone remember when Fox had a former mafia guy on one of the panels so he could compare similarities between the Obama administration and a mafia family.I believe it was on Hannity,but I was stunned!This person had no other credentials but somehow was given credibility to speak as if he had inside knowledge of this administration,how it operated and how they made decisions.To be outraged over this invite to Common is just so much hypocrisy but that is what they do EVERY day any way.No surprises.
      BTW..they have a Presidential-wannabe,pundit who says real intelligent, classy stuff like cajones,WTF,limp/impotent,etc that now tries to speak on what is or isn't a show of class and good judgement.I think her name is Sarah someting or another!!!!
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