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MSNBC Notes Hypocrisy Of Fox's Attack On Rapper Common

May 11, 2011 11:52 pm ET by Media Matters staff

Tonight, MSNBC's Cenk Uygur reported on the freak-out by the right-wing media, including Fox News, about the White House's invitation to rapper Common for a poetry event.

Uygur noted that Fox's attacks are hypocritical in light of the fact that the network had sung a much different tune about Common roughly half-a-year ago.

"It's funny how quickly Fox forgets things," Uygur said. "As Media Matters points out, just in October, Fox interviewed Common, praising him as a 'very positive' and 'conscious rapper.' "

Watch:

The interview between reporter Jason Robinson and Common that was posted on FoxNews.com can be seen here.

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    • Author by Bad News (May 12, 2011 12:07 am ET)
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      It's called Pin The Tail on The Negro.
      That is the Game Fox News is Playing Yo.
      Common is about Hope & Social Justice, what Fox News calls Communism.
      From the Streets of Chicago to The White-House, you got to admire his Optimism.

      Speak truth to power.


      Mr. News
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    • Author by pete592 (May 12, 2011 12:12 am ET)
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      Hey, we're talking about a poetry event. Now, if Obama had invited Common to lunch instead, then the right-wingers would approve, right?
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      • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 6:25 am ET)
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        More people will comment on this post than watched Cenk Uygur last night.


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        • Author by sonnyjames (May 12, 2011 9:03 am ET)
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          ...and what does that have too do with this post,just saying
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          • Author by Macaframa3 (May 12, 2011 9:12 am ET)
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            You see they have to say things like that because they cant argue on the facts. Typical from the trailer park tea party all the way up to the congress. If you cant win with facts, distract.
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            • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 11:13 am ET)
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              I've had plenty to say about the facts on this, Macaframa.

              The free lance reporting on Common six months ago was a total non sequitur, and blatantly dishonest. Cenk Uygur followed Media Matters dishonest lead. The next day MMfA hails Cenk Uygur like it's Monday on ESPN SportsCenter doing the highlights from the day before. That's how the typical cycle works- "Look, Cenk Uygur is recognizing our work....#Winning!".

              Tediously boring. And so typical. Bottom line, it's still dishonest.
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              • Author by pete592 (May 12, 2011 12:02 pm ET)
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                Tediously boring, yet still worth the mouse clicks and keystrokes to express how tightly your undies are twisted.

                Now don't go construing that to mean I think you shouldn't be here. In fact, I feel quite the opposite. There are so few of you critics who bother to come here and express themselves anymore. Seriously, despite all the abuse you endure from the least civil among us, I still find your ongoing willingness to engage people here commendable. I just doubt your honesty when you say you find this site to be "boring" and "typical."
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                • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 1:07 pm ET)
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                  You're probably right, pete.

                  The abuse means nothing to me. I get far more out of a post by someone like pearlene explaining racial issues than I do someone who sits there and spews race-baiting epithets to get his point across.

                  But what I meant about boring and tedious was the cycle of posting a story here, then MSNBC using it on their shows, then the post again here the next day pointing to the fact MSNBC used them on their show, patting each other on the back. Is supposed to be a rarity that MSNBC and Media Matters are on the same page politically? This blog post is like "Newsflash: MSNBC agrees with MMfA that Fox isn't fair and balanced!!"

                  That's what I meant was tedious and boring, actually.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 3:29 pm ET)
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                    No one is abusing you. Pointing out your nonsense isn't abuse. What I spewed out about(lol) you turns out to be true. I haven't told one lie about you and when I see you spew more of your BS Bircher driven rants I'll speak out.
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                    • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 3:37 pm ET)
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                      Obsession much, dude?

                      You're a creepy stalker, congero.

                      Try to get some help, ok?


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                      • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 3:58 pm ET)
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                        Thats all you got hoosier. Infact go back to the post you are thread you are running from today. It was you who engaged me after I congatulated another poster . Throw up your smokescreens and pretend you don't understand me or I am stalking you. You know the real reason is because I won't take your BS all fall for your facade.
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                        • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:04 pm ET)
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                          Stalking is not a healthy thing to engage in, congero.

                          It only feeds on itself.

                          It's a sickness.

                          You really do need some assistance and I hope you have access to a good doctor.
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                          • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 4:10 pm ET)
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                            Funny you keep posting to me. lol.
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                          • Author by takemycountryback (May 13, 2011 9:22 am ET)
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                            hoosier -- Um...A stalker is defined as "someone who prowls (trolls) or sneaks about; usually with unlawful intentions"...but in your case let's call it "uneducated" intentions.

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        • Author by bintx (May 12, 2011 9:23 am ET)
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          What does that have to do with this post? I've never watched Cenk Uygur . . . I don't like him; however, he is correct in calling Fox out for its hypocrisy and its out and out lies about this issue. It's STUPID, hoosier. It is a story which was created for the edification of and, hopefully, the distribution by 2-3 million dumba**es who watch this crap on Fox and BELIEVE it. You know, like you.
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          • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 11:24 am ET)
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            State troopers in New Jersey beg to differ with that assessment, bintxie. This is the week they honor the fallen.

            Bad timing for Obama to have him in the White House? Tin ear? An oversight they wish they'd been a little more careful for? A combination of all three? Who knows, but somewhere in between blowing out of proportion on one side and worthy of discussion out of respect for those who are truly offended on he other is where the actuality is.

            The point about Cenk Uygur is not necessarily that he's a nobody in a notoriously bad time slot for MSNBC that barely draws an audience, it's that MMfA is dishonest in their portrayal of the fluff piece Jason Robinson did on Common. It's no surprise Cenk Uygur needs MMfA look to for material, and it's no wonder MMfA gives him the high five the next morning for the plug.

            That's how it works, bintxie.

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            • Author by bintx (May 12, 2011 11:33 am ET)
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              Good parroting job, hon. Your fearless leaders at Fox will be SOOOO proud of you. Good job. Want a cracker.

              As I said, you're just one of the 2-3 million dumba**es who watch Fox and believe they are being given news instead of worthless propaganda.

              Get a clue, hoosier. You're being used by these folks and they have NO respect for you at all. They think you're as stupid as the 305 million Americans who DON'T watch Fox think you are.

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              • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 1:20 pm ET)
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                bintx, I think I've told you this before but I may be wrong about that, but I don't remember a single instance where you took the opposite viewpoint of any MMfA blogpost, no matter how petty, no matter if it was manipulative in nature, devious, edited, dishonest or disingenuous. I pointed out to you one time when you were completely wrong, but you persisted with the MMfA line that Fox News showed a clip on purpose, of a crowd of people cheering in the middle of the summer all wearing shorts and short sleeves, that Fox wanted to make look like was the book-signing for Sarah Palin, one that was held in Michigan in the winter in the morning at the mall in freezing temperatures. You followed the MMfA line even when I pointed out to you further that the video from the rally a year and a half prior to that during the 2008 pres. campaign was not only so obvious that it was a rally and not a book signing, it also only showed less than 20 people total in the entire video clip you claimed Fox was trying to pass off for the book signing. You would not accept that it was an error made by accident, or an inept lead-in by the announcer at the time, or screw-up in the timing as they went to commercial.

                You're an intelligent individual, but you are the LAST person on here that should be admonishing someone else for being a lackey sycophant doing the bidding of their masters.

                What's your explanation for the NJ state troopers' disgust with this invite to the White House? Are they all racist opportunists just following Fox's lead, being led by the nose?
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                • Author by bintx (May 12, 2011 2:01 pm ET)
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                  A couple of things. First: We disagreed on a video. The fact that you think that is significant is just as creepy as you claim congero to be. Second: I don't always agree with the "blog" posts here. I also don't always agree with the people that you would call "progressives, libs, etc." In fact, I rarely agree with some of them. You must have missed my posts to jjamale and a few others who I find to be so invested in their fanatical political ideology that there is absolutely no demarcation between themselves and those that they demean on what they see as the "far right." My comments to you were based upon your support of Fox's meme which was based upon a poem that they truncated to make it mean the exact opposite of what it really meant. As for the NJ state troopers? I don't really know and I don't care. I think that they're the ones that should deal with it. It's not a national crisis. It's their complaint, they should deal with it.

                  Your posts are, most usually, simply repetition of the false information which is posted on Fox. I post here because, as a conservative, I'm SICK of the false face of conservatism that the folks on Fox and hate talk radio present to the world. Your support of these faux conservative jackasses would seem to lead the average person to believe that you aren't really a conservative at all. I'm being very serious when I say you need to read this book. I know, I know, you'll think it's leftist claptrap, but it's not. It's based on years of research by many different people. What we're seeing posing as conservatism today is authoritarianism. I think that there is also some left-wing authoritarianism in play, too. The people who hang on Michael Moore's every word come to mind. Seriously, read the book and it will show you where I'm coming from.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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                    It may take me a while to get to it, but I will read it, though I hate reading that much material on the internet. Can I transfer that to my NOOK?

                    I hate the way the left plays the game, bintx. I have no respect for the John Dean's, David Brock's, Arianna Huffington's, Meghan McCain's and Kathleen Parker's who become enamored with their new-found celebrity status by renouncing the way they used to be and then sloughing it off as having been brain-washed or, to quote "Oh, I don't know, self-loathing, maybe?..... I wasn't confident enough myself...to come out.". None, bintx. I honestly don't know what it is you find comforting about this place that you choose it to show your bonafides.
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                    • Author by Johaely (May 12, 2011 4:52 pm ET)
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                      So if somebody considers themself a conservative they must all toe the party line and always be antagonistic and hostile to liberals, right? Its not like there are shades of gray and moderation in this world you know.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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                        If that's what you interpreted from my post then you didn't read it very well or with an attempt to try to understand it, Johaely.


                        Without fail, when you guys start a sentence with "So", the next words will always be completely distorted. You kept the string alive.
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                        • Author by Johaely (May 12, 2011 7:21 pm ET)
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                          What else can be said? All examples you put up are either former conservatives (Ariana, David Brock) or conservatives critical of other conservatives. Being a conservative does not mean thinking yourself as superior to liberals and openly hostile towards them.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 3:50 pm ET)
                     
                  What's your explanation for the NJ state troopers' disgust with this invite to the White House? Are they all racist opportunists just following Fox's lead, being led by the nose?------Hosed


                  Wow how dishonest of you. You are completly deaf and tuned out to what people have been saying to you to repeat that line. You want an explanation go back to the thread you are running from today and look at the many post explaining it to you. You run to this thread to repeat the lies no one was buying yesterday and Jon Stewart destroyed in the video posted here at MMFA.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:00 pm ET)
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                    You are a very sick puppy, congero.

                    Please stop stalking me, or find something else more healthy for you to obsess over.

                    Have you tried walking?

                    Or maybe get a puppy.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 4:13 pm ET)
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                      Oh look another post to me from the person who claims he is being stalked. lol.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 12:05 pm ET)
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              You ae so full of s**t bircher that it hurts. After getting your arse handed to you all yesterday on this very same subject you have nerve to trot out the very same BS again today. You are tired and boring. Jon Stewart summarized the rediculousness of your position in this segment saying it all, notice the shout out and happy birthday wishes to Ice T(who actually did write cop killing lyrics. Then notice Hannity's defense of Ted Nugent after his attacks on President Obama and Hillary.
              What a pathetic and sad person you are. It's no wonder you visit bircher/birther/racist websites for your info. Jim Hoft/Council of Conservative Citizens,DiversitySucks and where they roam you will find the anti-civil rights group now making a comeback among the Randinistas in the Republican party, The John Birch Society. Look at how your rants resemble what is found on those sites yet you still deny visiting wehateAmerica but your thoughts are reflected there almost verbatim. Back to your takedown:

              Jon Stewart On Fox's Fake "Common" Controversy: "It's Almost Impossible To Express How Ridiculous...You All Are"
              Your text to link here...

              For those interested in following hoosiers tired arguments that he is foolishly recycling today:


              Your text to link here...

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              • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 1:47 pm ET)
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                congero, you're an obsessed and very creepy stalker.

                Dude, give it a rest.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 3:23 pm ET)
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                  You are the creepy one. To post the same BS as you did yesterday is just plain creepy and stupid.
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                  • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:05 pm ET)
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                    Why are you following me around?

                    Please, cease and desist.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 4:14 pm ET)
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                      another post claiming stalking. It's clear who is playing the games.
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                      • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:40 pm ET)
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                        The point is, if you were so offended I was a racist, what's the purpose in following me around so you can call me one? You don't bother me, but that makes no sense. You're creepy, congero. I'll argue with you about politics till the cows come home, but that's not at all what you want to do. So I'm asking you nicely, please knock it off. No one wants to see my replies to you but I imagine they don't especially care to see your stalking me, either.

                        Solution: we both knock it off.

                        Deal?
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                        • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 5:04 pm ET)
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                          Listen hoosier I think you are a creep. I think it's creepy to present the same tired arguments today as if no one explained or debunked them yesterday. I think it's creepy that almost everyone of your post are just knee jerk responses to attack liberals and leftist as you call them. I think it's creepy that you call the New York Times a leftist paper. I think it creepy that you and Faux take this visit of Common and escalate it to attack this President,it fits the narrative Faux wants to present. The hyprocrisy of this outrage has been explained to you with many examples given,yet you pretend not to hear; I think thats creepy. I think it's creepy you want to see the Presidents adoption papers(sic) and his kindergarten records or passport or believe that you will find some evidence that he is not who he says he is. Thats not arguing politics infact that is using those issues to hide what your politics are. The politics of Gateway Pundit and Jim Roft, Council of Conservative Citizens, the politics of Diversitysucks,the politics of the John Birch Society.

                          In short you are just a creep and when you stop posting creepy stuff then I will stop.
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                          • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 5:05 pm ET)
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                            In short you are just a creep and when you stop posting creepy stuff then I will stop.

                            Deal?
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                            • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 7:21 pm ET)
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                              You're a creepy lurker with nothing better to do, congero. I feel sorry for you.

                              Comment on the topics, not come in here day after to day to make personal attacks.

                              Otherwise it makes it obvious you're just lonely and looking for someone who will respond to you. You know that if you just say "Fox sux" or "Fox is racist" or "This is all about the Southern Strategy" or "That's just a dog-whistle, we know what they really mean" that no one will care and just go on ignoring you. So you seek out someone to stalk to see if they'll respond to you.

                              Sad, pathetic, angry and lonely little man.
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                              • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 10:30 pm ET)
                                   
                                lol. So OK no deal.
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                              • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 10:50 pm ET)
                                   
                                You know that if you just say "Fox sux" or "Fox is racist" or "This is all about the Southern Strategy" or "That's just a dog-whistle, we know what they really mean" that no one will care and just go on ignoring you. So you seek out someone to stalk to see if they'll respond to you.---hosed

                                That is just hilarious and very revealing as to your mind set. Everytime you post you show more and more of yourself and for someone who pretends that I am stalking them you sure keep responding to me.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (May 12, 2011 12:27 pm ET)
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              More people will comment on this post than watched Cenk Uygur last night.


              Argumentum ad Populum

              State troopers in New Jersey beg to differ with that assessment


              argumentum ad verecundium


              You're o and 2 here, Hoser, and here comes the pitch.

              somewhere in between blowing out of proportion on one side and worthy of discussion out of respect for those who are truly offended on he other


              False equivalence.

              Steeeeeeeee-rike three ! Go ride the pine, hoser. Three boners of that magnitude on one short thread is a big whiff, even by wingnut standards.
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              • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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                Cenk Uygur didn't make an argument last night, Andy. He parroted MMfA. Then he said "Give me a break". How or why he got a show is beyond my capabilities of comprehension.

                To me, it's little more than MMfA trying to justify their dishonesty by noting that MSNBC bought their line, but really, is Cenk Uygur's endorsement the kind of plug they should be touting.

                With the troopers, that's not an appeal to their authority, but an appeal to their sympathies. If you want to admonish me for an appeal to the sympathies of troopers during the week they're honoring their fallen brethren, go right ahead, but it will be a rarity indeed that a liberal will have admonished me for that style of argument and by calling it false.

                The third one you listed isn't a false equivalence.
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                • Author by buckyg (May 12, 2011 2:14 pm ET)
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                  what dishonesty is mmfa trying to justify? pointing out that fox on one hand ran a segment lauding him as a positive conscious rapper, and on the other hand call him a thug wannabe cop killer when he gets invited by obama to the white house.

                  the best part is that people like sean hannity are so stupid that they read through one quote and paint him as a cop killer and dont take the time to realize that the song is from a separate point of view from the author, and he ties it up at the end saying if more people were conscious about the world around them, things like "cop killing" wouldnt happen.

                  and im giving fox the benefit of the doubt of being stupid here and not reading or comprehending the whole song. in reality they probably very well knew exactly what the song was about but hey, it was a good opportunity to attack the president right?
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                  • Author by buckyg (May 12, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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                    that first paragraph was supposed to read

                    and on the other hand call him a thug wannabe cop killer when he gets invited by obama to the white house is in no way dishonesty, it doesnt matter if it was a non sequitur. are they not responsible for what does and does not get shown on their show?
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                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (May 12, 2011 2:36 pm ET)
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                    what dishonesty is mmfa trying to justify?


                    Sometimes I'm not sure if the wingnuts are trying to fool normal people, or if they've actually tricked themselves.

                    Hoser never pointed out any dishonesty. He made a vapid Ratings Queen comment at the top of the thread, and is desperately trying to recover by referring to some imaginary things he did, like pointing out dishonesty.

                    I see this a lot with the zombies, they just keep repeating something that they've convinced themselves happened, and they expect sane people to accept their bizarre fantasy.
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                    • Author by buckyg (May 12, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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                      its like they just start to kneejerk reject anything if its source isnt the drudge report or the blaze or fox, then when you say alright, if you dont take my source at its word, please show me what part of the article, analysis, review etc that you disagree with or show me where said lies are. they usually just ignore you after that, or double down and say "yeah but libruls work there, you know it cant be trusted"
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                    • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:13 pm ET)
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                      Andy, I made the point so many times yesterday I thought it would be overkill to even post it again today.

                      It's totally dishonest to pass off that fluff piece done by an obscure freelance reporter for Fox on an obscure segment that typically interviews up and coming artists like, Common and David Archuletta, and pass it off as a complete endorsement by everyone at Fox News. To say that fluff piece debunks their criticism of Common's lyrics now that it's come to light because of his invite, is pure hogwash. It's a lie, actually. But MMfA ran with it, from a kid who has even less experience as a journalist than Jason Robinson does at Fox. So what's next, yep, Cenk Uygur picks it up from MMfA and runs with the MMfA narrrative. What's next? Yep, the next morning MMfA goes 'hey, look what Cenk Uygur said'....confirmation! #winning!'

                      You have every right to be disgusted at the way Fox News runs their organization, but you're as blind as can be if you don't see the way MMfA engages in its sabotage strategy of Fox and conservatives simply expressing their opinions and think it's pure as the driven snow.

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                      • Author by congero6189599 (May 12, 2011 4:22 pm ET)
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                        It is not only overkill it is a lie in the way you are presenting the story. You act like people can't read or see for themselves. You have no special knowledge that enables you to see what others can't. All this was explained to you yesterday and just like an obstinate child you pretend yesterday never happened and drop over hear to spew the samethings that have been answered. It's ridiculous.
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                        • Author by hoosier (May 12, 2011 4:28 pm ET)
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                          You're not presenting ideas, congero, or dispelling them, that is not your intent. You're only intent is to obsess and stalk.

                          Please stop.
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                      • Author by Andy Kreiss (May 12, 2011 6:14 pm ET)
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                        It's totally dishonest to pass off that fluff piece ... as a complete endorsement by everyone at Fox News


                        It would be . Nobody did that. That's where you're either confused, or completely full of sh*t.

                        This is what we're talking about. You've decided that something is "dishonest", but that perception is based entirely on your own dishonesty ( or confusion).
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                        • Author by hoosier (May 14, 2011 8:00 am ET)
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                          Andy, Jason Robinson is an entertainment reporter for Fox News. He was doing a free lance report on an entertainment figure. He's featured various people like David Arculetta, Kim Kardashian and, only God knows why, Ashley Dupre.

                          Ashley Dupre, Andy.

                          That's pretty much his resume. That's pretty much what he does. If you look up those 2 minute segments he's done on FoxNews.com.....again, Andy, that's FoxNews.com, and on his segment in the Entertainment section of their website called "The Hot Zone" and get a flavor for his interview style, you'll notice that he never brings up any controvery in any kind of offensive-style way, as most reporters would. His questions are like the one MMfA is somewhow portraying as having debunking all subsequent criticism of Common, as in 'your music is very positive, and you're known as ("you're known as", Andy) 'The Conscious Rapper.'" If you watch his interview with Ashley Dupre, it's very similar. If Ashley Depre was asked to appear at the White House and Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and many others at Fox expressed outrage at that move, Eric Hananoki could do the same dishonest thing he's doing here and show a clip of Jason Robinson's interview with her and claim that debunks their criticsim of her now.

                          It's just a sleazy move by a dishonest cub MMfA Research Fellow, and that's what they're trained to do there.

                          Since when is a news organization supposed to all come down in unison against another entertainment reporter's opinions of someone that might be controversial in the entertainment industry that might have a very good side and some very negative elements as well in order not to look hypocritical in the future if that entertainer is invited to the White House. Being invited to the White House is a little more high profile than being featured on an entertainment segment for your news org's website, you know.

                          No doubt, Andy, this was dishonest rand shameful eporting.
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        • Author by docb (May 13, 2011 11:20 am ET)
             
          Why just cenk...where is the rest of the msm!
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    • Author by mk3872 (May 12, 2011 9:46 am ET)
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      When are Fox News, WND and NewsMax going to treat the hateful, violent-filled rhetoric of Ted Nugent with the same disdain as they do to a black rapper ?
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