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Sorry, O’Reilly: Anders Breivik Is A Christian

July 27, 2011 12:09 am ET by Terry Krepel

For the past two nights on his Fox News show, Bill O’Reilly has been expressing his offense at the idea that  Anders Behring Breivik, the suspect in last Friday’s terror attacks in Norway, is being described by the media as a Christian.

On Monday night’s show, O’Reilly was outraged that The New York Times described Breivik as a “Christian extremist” in a page-one headline, declaring that being an “anti-Muslim bigot” is what drove him, “not Jesus, not being baptized.” O’Reilly went on to assert that this was part of “a movement in the American media to diminish and marginalize the Christian philosophy.” Later in the show, O’Reilly said the Times’ headline was done to “give jihadists quarter or something like that, diminish the threat of them,” asserting that “the liberal media is so protective of extreme Islam, when it hates the left. ... At The New York Times, they would all be hung.”

O’Reilly continued his obsession on Tuesday’s show during a segment with The Washington Post’s Sally Quinn. As Quinn pointed out that Breivik called himself a Christian, invoked the name of Jesus and discussed the nature of his faith, O’Reilly insisted that “there’s no evidence that ties this guy to Christianity,” dismissing Breivik’s self-description by claiming that “Mussolini called himself a Christian.”

Unfortunately for O’Reilly, while Breivik may not be a Christian in an orthodox American way, he clearly identifies as one. As Salon’s Alex Pareene details:

Breivik chose to be baptized at age 15. He self-identified as "Christian" on his Facebook page. He thought "Christianity should recombine under the banner of a reconstituted and traditionalist Catholic Church" or, later, under a new (traditionalist) European Church.

Breivik is not an American-style evangelical Christian. He is not a "fundamentalist" in that sense. Though he does identify with American cultural Christian conservatives. And he considers himself to be fighting in the name of "our Christian cultural heritage." He supports a reconstituted Knights Templar devoted to winning a war against Islam in the name of Christianity.

All of this says "Christian terrorist." His goals -- the restoration of a pure Christian world in its "traditional" home -- were analogous to the stated of goals of al-Qaida.

Does he go to church? Does he believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ? Is he a biblical literalist? I have no idea. There's plenty about him that would lead a devout Christian to consider Breivik "not a 'real' Christian." Here's the thing about that: The same is true of all self-proclaimed Muslims who commit acts of terrorism.

He's a sick perversion of Christianity, sure. But if he "doesn't count" as a Christian solely because no one this evil should "count" as a Christian (which is O'Reilly's other argument -- "no one believing in Jesus commits mass murder," he said) then no terrorist should "count" as a representative of his faith.

But O’Reilly wasn’t done. He went on to invoke the “No True Scotsman” fallacy (as others have), essentially claiming that Breivik couldn’t be a Christian because “they’re nonviolent.” When Quinn noted that most Muslims would not consider accused Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan a Muslim, O’Reilly objected: “I’m not saying he was a good Muslim. I’m saying that he was a Muslim terrorist because he carried a business card that said ‘Soldier of Allah,’ and he committed his crimes in the name of Allah.” He added, “The guy in Fort Hood, he was acting in the name of his religion. He killed because he believed that Allah told him to kill. The guy in Norway didn’t kill because he thinks Jesus wanted him to kill those people. Jesus had nothing to do with it. He wasn’t even cited. And using the word ‘Christian’ to label this guy is dishonest.”

O’Reilly is trying to have it both ways here. He presumes that Hasan and other Islamic extremists are Muslim because they claim to be committing their terrorist acts in the name of Allah, but he insists that Breivik -- who considers himself a Christian and has clearly stated that he committed his terrorist acts in the name of restoring a Christian Europe -- couldn’t possibly be a Christian because he didn’t behave like an orthodox Christian. It’s a clear double standard.

O’Reilly got in one final, surprisingly mean dig at the end of the segment. When Quinn reiterated her argument that you should take someone at their word on what religion they identify with, O’Reilly retorted, “Benito Mussolini would have liked you, Miss Quinn, that’s for sure, because that’s what he was doing.”

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    • Author by phlcstgan (July 27, 2011 12:27 am ET)
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      So I guess the main question is, who the hell does Bill think Mussolini was?
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (July 27, 2011 12:44 am ET)
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        How can the right diminish the Christian philosophy more than they have. Most of the terror in America comes from religious extremists. Either by words or actions, the Christian right have diminished our country.

        America is NOT a Christian nation. Duh Cahnteetooshun sez sew.
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      • Author by Rollo (July 27, 2011 12:51 am ET)
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        He would probably call him an Atheist. In all seriousness, Bill O'Reilly can play dumb all he wants, and his dumb @ss fans can believe what he is saying. The truth of the matter is rational/sane people know what this Breivik character is(Christian Terrorist), and they also know what Bill O'Reilly and his fans are(Effing Lying Idiots). This story right here, gives you a picture perfect look on how FNC viewers become the most uninformed.
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        • Author by galmud (July 27, 2011 5:31 am ET)
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          There's absolutely no denying Breivik in many ways is a "Christian terrorist". He describes himself as devout Christian and Christian fundamentalism was part his motivation since he claims he's part of a modern version of the Knights Templar crusaders.

          But I think his main reason was more that of a extreme right wing nationalism/xenophobia and paranoia believing Marxism, and multiculturalism is a huge threat to Western civilization. So simply describing him as only a "Christian terrorist" may be too simplistic. I think he's closer to being a right wing neonazi or ultranationalist terrorist. But I guess a similar argument can be made about so called "Muslim terrorists" like Khalid Sheik Mohammed.

          However as O'Reilly denying flat out he's even a Christian is just beyond ridiculous. But it's to be expected since Breiviks screwed up convictions hit a bit too close to home for comfort for Billo.
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          • Author by Rollo (July 27, 2011 12:44 pm ET)
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            You are absolutely correct in saying, "describing him as only a 'Christian terrorist' may be too simplistic.", because in truth he was more than that. BUT, all I was doing was using the same parameters Bill O'Reilly and the rest of the right-wing media would put on a 'Muslim Terrorist. Was he a Muslim? Yes. Did he kill people? Yes. Then he is a 'Muslim Terrorist'. I know 2 wrongs don't make a right, but if these right-wing nut jobs are going to make up these jack @ss rules for their game, then as far as I am concerned, they will have to play by them.
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          • Author by wmjodea3 (July 27, 2011 2:26 pm ET)
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            In a black & white way of thinking Mr. O'Reilly is correct in saying Breivik is not a Christian, because a true Christian would not behave in that manner, because Jesus would not behave that way; but in reality many so called "Christians" also do not behave as Jesus would either. Say like Mr. O'Reilly himself. He calls himself a Christian; but I am guessing Jesus would not behave as Mr. O'Reilly has.

            The bottom line is Breivik believes he is a Christian, just as Mr. O'Reilly believes he is a Christian and other so called "Christians" (those on the Christian Right to name a few) believe they are Christians, even when their actions show otherwise.

            For Mr. O'Reilly, a Christian, to suggest to his viewers that believing in Islam and acting against the teaching of Islam still makes one a Muslim; but believing in Christianity and acting against the teaching of Jesus does not make one a Christian is something I don't believe Jesus would do.
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    • Author by David2012 (July 27, 2011 12:51 am ET)
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      The real question here is how the discussion in the country can be more sane. Guys like Bill O'Reilly are not contributing to that much to be desired end.

      I guess that makes money for Bill. Maybe that's all that matters. Or maybe not.
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    • Author by WilliamP (July 27, 2011 12:52 am ET)
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      Bill "Muslims attacked us on 9/11" O'Reilly's simplistic world view is really coming back to haunt him now, isn't it?

      And the thing is that it doesn't matter whether he's a Christian or not--he's a Muslim-basher just like O'Reilly. By his simplistic logic of guilt by association, O'Reilly can fairly be lumped in with this terrorist. If being a Muslim is sufficient for being a Muslim terrorist, then being a Muslim basher likewise is sufficient for being a Muslim-bashing terrorist.

      Talk about Christianity all you want, Bill, but it won't help. You and the other Muslim-bashers are now terrorists by your own standards.
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      • Author by ProgLib (July 27, 2011 7:21 am ET)
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        Great point, William. When 9/11 happened, it was the Muslims who were responsible because they dress, talk and look a certain way, and therefore invoking the entire religion as being a part of it. When a Christian does it (not to mention the OKC bombing with McVeigh, who was also reportedly a Christian), they are just crazy nutjobs who do violent things.

        I just love how in O'Reilly's world, no Christian has EVER done a single thing wrong. I wonder if Bill believes that with the born-again Christians, some who may have held deceitful and unethical lives, many involving violence... are those people considered Christian still, even after being so violent in their life?
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (July 27, 2011 12:52 am ET)
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      Bill been raiding Beckle's left behind supply of drugs?

      “the liberal media is so protective of extreme Islam, when it hates the left. ... At The New York Times, they would all be hung.”

      But of course he's not a violent christian himself. He'd insure that they were all hung nonviolently.
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    • Author by Jason Beets (July 27, 2011 12:56 am ET)
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      Way to go, Terry! You nailed O'Reilly on his hippocritical take on terrorism. If a christian did it, he's not a real christian. If a Muslim does it, the entire Islamic religon is to blame. I don't know why this doesn't disqualify him with his audience. Oh wait, I do. It's because they share the same prejudices he does.

      Keep up the good work MMFA.
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    • Author by thewhatnow? (July 27, 2011 6:54 am ET)
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      This guy is a bully. Disagree and he labels you with Mussolini.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (July 27, 2011 7:16 am ET)
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      A Muslim commits a heinous act and it's an affirmation all Muslims are violent. A Christian commits a heinous act, and he can't be a Christin because he committed a heinous act.

      Why can't you left wing/commie/socialists/nazi folks understand this?

      Before someone goes off the deep end here. I'm being sarcastic.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (July 27, 2011 9:25 am ET)
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      So the guys who blew up planned parenthood centers were not christian? The guy who shot Dr. Tiller was not christian? George Bush, who arbitrarily invaded a country for no reason is not a christian? I guess christians can do no wrong. I'm a christian, baptized and all that, tho I never go to church and I have broken drug laws. Does that mean I am not a christian, or am I not one just when I am breaking the law.
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      • Author by chazmanr (July 27, 2011 10:41 am ET)
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        I don't recall a single incident in the New Testament in which Jesus spoke out against the evils of illicit drugs. In fact there is some evidence that he may have used cannabis extract in the oils he used to anoint people. See this article
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    • Author by j238 (July 27, 2011 12:04 pm ET)
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      I've got an idea for a new Fox News Reality Show.

      At the beginning, participants announce their religious beliefs.

      Then Bill O'Reilly decides what religion the participant really is. Catholic? Baptist? Suni? Shia? Atheist? Jewish? Bill makes the determination.

      Then Brit Hume comes out a decides what religion the participant should be. Maybe there will be a prize for an appropriate conversion.

      So, someone could announce he is Jewish. Then Bill O'Reilly declares he is really a Mormon. Then the fun starts when Brit comes out. He may decide the participant should convert to Judaism even though he thinks he's already Jewish.

      The possibilities are endless on the Bill & Brit theological judgment show !
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (July 27, 2011 12:08 pm ET)
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      “a movement in the American media to diminish and marginalize the Christian philosophy.”

      Kind of like how the Christain Right is a "movement in the American media to diminish and marginalize the MULSIM philosophy?”

      being an “anti-Muslim bigot” is what drove him, “not Jesus, not being baptized.”

      So... Pretty much exactly like YOU LOT then, yes?

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      IMHO
      UTOPIA
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    • Author by achrispage6992 (July 27, 2011 1:17 pm ET)
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      Duh!!! Doesn't everyone know that Bill O'Reilly has the authority to decide if someone is Christian or not?
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      • Author by SMTDL (July 27, 2011 1:54 pm ET)
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        Ok ..Then ask him if all the KKK and other Southern whites that lynched thousands of Black citizens were Christian..? How about the Rand Paul supporter that stomped on the woaman at the political rally? How about the teaparty members that ridiculed the disabled man that wanted healthcare reform,or the ones carrying racist Obama signs or the ones shouting,and spitting at elected Congressmen in Washington.Were they all Christians??
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