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Fox Runs Misleading, Insult-Laden Segment On Program Providing Free Cell Phones To The Poor

August 03, 2011 5:29 pm ET by Karen Famighetti

A segment ran on America Live today examining the Universal Service Fund, a program that is intended to provide universal access to telecommunications, and, among other things, provides cell phones and minutes for free to poor people. The segment managed to be both misleading and offensive.

Guest host Shannon Bream introduced the segment by calling the program "a controversial call" as the on-screen text asked whether "free cell phones" should be a "civil right." After Gary Carter of Assurance Wireless -- a service supported by the Universal Service Fund that provides free cell phones to qualifying low-income people -- explained the program, the other guest, "federal tax practitioner and small businessman" David Selig, responded. He called the program a "shakedown," saying that government is "extorting" companies, and opined that the people receiving the phones "don't deserve something free on the taxpayer's nickel."

It is worth noting that this program has been in existence since 1996, and that the goal of universal service has been a basic tenet of federal policy since the Communications Act of 1934. These supposedly undeserving recipients of free phones through the program must prove that they are low income and be on public assistance, such as Medicaid, food stamps, school lunch programs, or public housing, in order to qualify.

Bream then asked Carter if consumers are required to fund the program, and Carter explained that telecommunications companies put money into the Universal Service Fund, which funds programs such as Assurance Wireless. Bream then asked whether consumers pay into the fund, and Carter explained that some consumers may see a USF charge on their phone bills, which helps the companies defray the costs of paying into the fund. Bream then allowed Selig to respond -- which he did by insulting Carter. Selig asserted that Carter was either "deliberately misleading your viewing audience or he has the business acumen of a wood tick" and declared that "hard-working Americans who have to pay all of their bills themselves" would wind up paying for it.

In fact, while telecommunications companies are required to pay into the fund, they are not required to pass that cost onto consumers. According to the Universal Service Administration Company, appointed by the FCC to run the program, it is entirely up to providers to decide whether to charge consumers any fee for the USF; federal law does not mandate that the charge be itemized on monthly bills.

The segment concluded with Carter laying out the benefits of the program and why it is worthwhile, using the example of a low-income man who was unemployed having access to a phone through the program so that potential employers could contact him as he searched for work. Selig interrupted him: "They're not looking for work. If they were, they would be working."

It may seem unnecessary to point out that the United States is still facing a difficult job market, but Selig's comment seems to require it. With high unemployment, a slow rate of job creation, and a high average length of unemployment among those actively seeking work, not holding a job does not mean that someone is not looking for one.

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    • Author by politeradical (August 03, 2011 5:44 pm ET)
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      Wow, not too often you get see that kind of unfiltered arrogant, self=entitled wingnut ugliness.

      David Selig stand up and take a bow!
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      • Author by mari2jj (August 04, 2011 1:24 am ET)
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        Frankly, it is worse with that. So many beat their chests about their grand Christian ideals and then turn around and break a fundamental command of Christ to take care of the poor. Frankly, Pat's railing about poor people belays any religious comments he ever has made, or will ever make. He simply does not get the demands of the Bible so on the face of things, and I do not know his heart, only what he says, but his statement does not comport with Christian values.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (August 03, 2011 5:50 pm ET)
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      Why are they so filled with hatred for people less fortunate...?
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      • Author by dave (August 03, 2011 6:04 pm ET)
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        The hatred is in providing people with cell phones and minutes. IMHO, another program in which the govt has no business, and another waste of taxpayer dollars.
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        • Author by pete592 (August 03, 2011 6:07 pm ET)
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          You did read the part about how the program is funded, right?
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          • Author by dave (August 03, 2011 6:16 pm ET)
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            Bream then asked Carter if consumers are required to fund the program, and Carter explained that telecommunications companies put money into the Universal Service Fund, which funds programs such as Assurance Wireless. Bream then asked whether consumers pay into the fund, and Carter explained that some consumers may see a USF charge on their phone bills, which helps the companies defray the costs of paying into the fund.

            Some consumers are getting hit with the bill. Yup.
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            • Author by MidnightWriter (August 03, 2011 6:26 pm ET)
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              It's the same bill consumers have been getting hit with since 1997 when the Universal Service Fund was added as a part of the Telecommunications Act of 1996.

              Got a problem with it? Protest by shutting off your cable, cell phone, and Internet services--y'know, those very things you're benefiting from because of this "waste of taxpayer dollars."
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            • Author by ONOMATOPOEIA (August 03, 2011 6:26 pm ET)
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              ...and another waste of taxpayer dollars.


              There is a difference between consumers and taxpayer money. I assume that is why pete592 asked if you read how it was funded.
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              • Author by dave (August 03, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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                USF is a tax on your cell phone bill.
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                • Author by MidnightWriter (August 03, 2011 6:32 pm ET)
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                  One that, among other things, paid for the towers that carry your cell phone signals.

                  You see that as a waste of taxpayer dollars, do you?
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                  • Author by dave (August 03, 2011 6:36 pm ET)
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                    No, I don't see the towers as a waste, as I need them for reception. I see providing poor people with a cell phone and minutes a waste. That has zero to do with the towers.
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                    • Author by MidnightWriter (August 03, 2011 6:45 pm ET)
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                      Those towers were build because of that same fund. If your individual cell phone, Internet, Cable, DSL, and/or WiFi providers had tried to build those things without the USF you'd be looking at ridiculously high rates for those services.

                      You're benefiting from it. Why shouldn't other citizens of this nation?



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                      • Author by dave (August 03, 2011 6:52 pm ET)
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                        Because I am paying for it. They are not. And they are getting free cell phone use on my dime.
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                        • Author by pete592 (August 03, 2011 6:58 pm ET)
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                          I got sick and tired of subsidizing crap channels on satellite and cable. I was forced to buy them due to channel packaging. So I ditched cable and satellite altogether. Now those undeserving crap channels don't get any of my money.
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                          • Author by Bongo Fury (August 03, 2011 8:29 pm ET)
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                            I got rid of Dish two weeks ago Pete. It started up as $14.95/mo for six months and a contract for two years. After two years the rate was $52/mo.

                            So I was paying too much to watch crap while the cable channels were also getting paid by advertisors. It's not a good deal when it should be essentially free. Bah humbug
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                        • Author by neon desert (August 03, 2011 7:08 pm ET)
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                          I think it's great that the poor have access to a modern "necessity" due to the benevolent aspects of our society. Thanks for paying for it. I'm not paying for it. I don't own a cell phone. IN my mind, the cost doesn't outweigh the benefits. In your mind, it does. Included in your justification by default is the USF.

                          We're both exactly the same, in a capitalistic way. We're voting with our dollars. You're voting FOR the USF, I'm voting against it. Ironic, don't you think?
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                        • Author by heehee..santorum (August 03, 2011 8:15 pm ET)
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                          Yes Dave you are paying for it. You are paying for it Dave. Dave, YOU are PAYING FOR IT. Dave is in fact paying for it. It is being paid for by Dave. Thanks Dave, for paying for it.
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                          • Author by magnolialover (August 03, 2011 8:30 pm ET)
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                            Sounds like anyone using a cell phone might be paying for it. Dave, here's the thing. You don't NEED a cell phone. Don't want to "pay" for this program (which is a good program by the way)? Don't. Get. A. Cell. Phone.

                            Either that, or query your service provider, see if they charge you for this service. Some carriers might not. Ask around. Use your consumer choice to find a carrier that doesn't charge for this. I am willing to bet that there are some out there.
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                        • Author by mk3872 (August 03, 2011 9:22 pm ET)
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                          In other words, you are a heartless f***er who is selfish enough to whine about a few cents on your friggin' phone bill.
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                          • Author by kamrom (August 03, 2011 11:38 pm ET)
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                            If only. I ask you: How easy would it be to get a job without a cellphone? Next to impossible. And that would affect even people who own homes, but are strained by medical problems, or kids medical problems, including sudden crippling accident (ie, no ones fault.)

                            It would be one thing if they just wanted to ignore the poor. Thats standard rightwing jackassery.

                            But to actively deny people the reasonable ability to seek employment? Thats low, even for the sleaziest right wingers.

                            Shameful. Im not gonna even bother insulting this guy 'dave' guy. Why bother? If he cant figure out whats wrong with his ideas well... Ill just hope that he never has children who have to rely on him.
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                        • Author by kabniel (August 03, 2011 10:42 pm ET)
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                          dave

                          You are a dispicable human being. You are so selfish. You have such a sad lack of humanity. You are simply a soulless minion of Mammon. You care nothing about anyone but yourself and it is a pitiful way to be. Children are selfish by nature. When you grow up you are supposed to mature beyond that. I am sorry that you never grew up. I am sorry you never found an ounce of decency inside yourself. It is tragic really
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                        • Author by karenkat (August 04, 2011 12:20 am ET)
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                          ok 'dave'

                          I won't stand for this another minute. You remind me of my grandsons when they were 5 & 7, minutely measuring the levels of their juice, to make sure the other didn't get more than he.

                          Thankfully, my grandsons are outgrowing that. You have not. You can't stand the fact that needy people have needs too!!! And if you think anyone WANTS to be so poor they need charity, you can FOAD!!!!
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            • Author by pete592 (August 03, 2011 6:54 pm ET)
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              Consumers? Or taxpayers?

              I guess I was a little hasty to assume you meant income taxpayers. Apologies.

              If you don't like it you can ditch your cell phone and free yourself of a consumption-based tax to provide phones for the dirt poor. Rally enough people who feel like you do and start a movement. Contact your reps in Congress to let them know how outraged you are that using a cell phone means helping the poor.
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            • Author by beDecent (August 03, 2011 8:28 pm ET)
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              In fact, while telecommunications companies are required to pay into the fund, they are not required to pass that cost onto consumers. According to the Universal Service Administration Company, appointed by the FCC to run the program, it is entirely up to providers to decide whether to charge consumers any fee for the USF; federal law does not mandate that the charge be itemized on monthly bills.
              Yup. Thanks to their provider.

              It's not a tax. It's a charge your provider, a private company, has decided to pass onto you.

              Sometimes I think people are just upset they aren't getting the same stuff for free. If you want to get free cell phone use, live at the poverty line and receive food stamps. Otherwise, check your bill and if your provider is charging you a USF charge, switch providers. SIMPLE.
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              • Author by magnolialover (August 03, 2011 8:33 pm ET)
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                That is what I keep saying. Hey if this being poor thing is bad (looking at your dave), then give up what you DO have, and then get poor. Then you can also have a free cell phone, along with food stamps and medicaid.

                I mean, you conservatives keep whining about how it's so unfair that poor people get help in the wealthiest country in the world, then be poor yourself.

                Something tells me that you'd not make it more than a week before running back to what you had before. I suggest folks read Nickel and Dimed, and see what it is to be poor and hard working in America.
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                • Author by beDecent (August 03, 2011 8:36 pm ET)
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                  Agreed. Being poor means having to survive. People who've never experienced living like millions of Americans do would never make it.
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                  • Author by magnolialover (August 03, 2011 9:31 pm ET)
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                    While I wasn't poor growing up, we were solidly working middle class Americans, shortly after I graduated college, and got on my own for awhile, there were times when I had to make decisions like, eat, or pay some bills. Sometimes I'd eat, sometimes I'd pay bills. There were lots of times when I had close to, if not, a zero balance in my bank account, but I had a decent job so I knew in a couple of weeks, I'd have another paycheck coming in. They were tense times, living paycheck to paycheck, so I can't even imagine being poor.
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                    • Author by beDecent (August 04, 2011 8:50 am ET)
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                      Yeah, I graduated college in January 2009 and am living paycheck-to-paycheck. It's stressful. I am by no means poor--I get by--but choosing which bills I have to put off, knowing they'll just be more expensive next month, is a tough decision to make. Plus I only get paid once a month, and while that one paycheck is pretty decent, the amount of bills I have (student loans, medical bills, gas/electricity, etc.) basically eat the whole thing up. And with the stress of living like this? I can't imagine actually being poor, either, and with more mouths to feed in many cases.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (August 03, 2011 7:21 pm ET)
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            "it doesn't directly benefit me or my family, so this program is wasteful and therefore should not exist."

            --Dave's Intern
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        • Author by pete592 (August 03, 2011 6:13 pm ET)
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          Providing people cell phones and minutes means you hate them? I guess that means I hate my wife.
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        • Author by mikehuck76 (August 04, 2011 1:20 pm ET)
             
          The hatred is in providing people with cell phones and minutes. - dave

          WOW! That is hatred to you, dave. Yikes. You have really carved out a sad, shallow existence there for yourself. Providing cell phones is hatred?! I can understand, perhaps, disagreeing with the program. But, claiming that is the part that you consider to be hatred? That is a mental illness, dave. Seek help.
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    • Author by pete592 (August 03, 2011 6:03 pm ET)
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      Are there NO PRISONS???
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    • Author by Chameo (August 03, 2011 7:26 pm ET)
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      These cell phones are the equivalent of leaving the dial tone on when landline service is shut off. They're stripped down basic phones, and the minutes provided are the bare minimum. While most people point out that having one allows potential employers to contact job seekers, there are even more important benefits -- like being able to phone your child's doctor when she has an asthma attack in the middle of the night, or your child's school having a way to reach you if they need to dismiss him from school.

      These people who complain about providing these minimal services to those who can't afford basic necessities always remind me of the city councilor who toured the homeless shelter where I used to work. After having dinner, which the shelter cook prepared at the cost of less than a buck a person, she turned to the shelter director and said, "Well, that's why we have so many homeless, Buddy. You feed them too good. They're like cats. If you feed them, they keep coming back for more."

      As opposed to crawling off to die, I guess.
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    • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (August 03, 2011 8:52 pm ET)
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      So THAT'S where those idiotic comments mentioning free cell phones come from - the morons who watch Fox News!
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      • Author by Chameo (August 03, 2011 9:39 pm ET)
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        It crops up every once in a while, usually in response to something on Fox. Last time I remember a big groundswell was after the media aired film of Michelle Obama volunteering at a homeless shelter and Fox noted that all these "so-called" homeless people were taking pictures with their camera phones.
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    • Author by moedog (August 03, 2011 10:08 pm ET)
         
      We pay a universal service charge on landline phones as well cellphones and have been for many years--some of you need to look at your bills sometime. Originally, the Universal Service charge was used mainly to extend landline telephone services in very rural areas. More recently, it has also been used to extend high speed internet, cell service and cable to rural areas. Part of the fund has also been used for many years to subsidize landline telephone service for low income consumers. In recent years, several cell companies filed lawsuits against governments complaining that subsities to landline companies while ignoring cell companies was discriminary, thus the new regs that include cell companies.
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    • Author by PBVV (August 04, 2011 12:45 am ET)
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      dave,

      You are one of the most nigardly curmudgeons I have ever read.

      My condolences on the sufferings of you and your dime.
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    • Author by o rly (August 04, 2011 10:44 am ET)
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      You know, I would guess that almost every Ayn Rand disciple is a Christian. Broad brush, but I think I'm pretty safe in making it.

      Now what did Jesus have to say about the poor, the needy, the unfortunate?

      One of the many things that frustrates me about this country is people who have this kind of cognitive dissonance. It feels like I'm living in a madhouse, and the nutters are running it.
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      • Author by Daveatthedoor (August 04, 2011 12:56 pm ET)
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        Big difference between "label only" Christians and those who really understand New Testament message on "the poor"....Im very disturbed by neo-cons/libertarians without the moral base of Christianity...
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        • Author by NotSure8 (August 04, 2011 5:07 pm ET)
             
          I haven't considered myself a "christian" in a very long time, but the main guideline I have applied to myself is similar to the scripture that goes (paraphrased) "treat others the way you would like to be treated". I honestly think those right-wingers just don't have the sympathy or empathy to understand other people's situations.
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      • Author by KnowsSomethingAboutAynRand (August 04, 2011 9:37 pm ET)
           
        That shows how little you know about Ayn Rand, she was an atheist.
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    • Author by tuffstuff (August 04, 2011 5:40 pm ET)
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      we, the American people own the airwaves and are generous enough to let the companies use it for a modest fee.
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