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"Dark Ages": Megyn Kelly, Mike Gallagher And U.S. Family Leave Laws

August 08, 2011 4:35 pm ET by Eric Hananoki

Back in May, Media Matters highlighted radio host Mike Gallagher's ill-informed remark about Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly's maternity leave. Gallagher, a Fox News contributor and frequent guest on Kelly's show, called her maternity leave "a racket" and wondered whether a man would also "get three months off" for paternity leave.

On her first day back, Kelly confronted Gallagher over his "moronic" remarks. While Gallagher initially attempted to defend them, it quickly became clear he didn't know what he was talking about:

GALLAGHER: Well -- are you going to disagree that there is - now, again, I'm on my knees -

KELLY: Oh, you're standing - are you doubling down? No, no, no, no, no. Are you not taking those remarks back, is maternity leave, according to you, a racket?

GALLAGHER: Well, do men get maternity leave, Megyn? I can't believe I'm asking you this -

KELLY: Guess what, honey, they do. Yes, they do. It's called the Family Medical Leave Act.

The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) provides certain private employees, both men and women, with up to 12 weeks of unpaid, job-protected leave per year. FMLA, while a significant piece of legislation in 1993, still has several limitations.

Kelly went on to add about paid family leave in the United States:

KELLY: The United States is the only country in the advanced world that doesn't allow paid - doesn't require paid maternity leave. Now I happen to work for a nice employer that gives me paid maternity leave. But virtually no --

GALLAGHER: Yes, you do.

KELLY -- but the United States is the only advanced country that doesn't require paid leave. If anything, the United States is in the dark ages when it comes to maternity leave. And what is it about getting pregnant and carrying a baby nine months that you don't think deserves a few months off so bonding and recovery can take place, hm?

Kelly's correct that the United States is in the "dark ages" on family leave. In a February 2011 report, Human Rights Watch found that "[j]ust three countries definitively offer no legal guarantee of paid maternity leave: Papua New Guinea, Swaziland--and the United States":

One of the most common work-family supports, paid maternity leave, is practically universal: academic research covering 190 countries shows that as of 2011, 178 countries guarantee paid maternity leave under national law. In nine of the 190 countries, the status of paid leave for new mothers was unclear. Just three countries definitively offer no legal guarantee of paid maternity leave: Papua New Guinea, Swaziland--and the United States.

This lack of paid leave under law in America is at odds with a workforce revolution in which female participation in paid labor skyrocketed over the past century, especially among those with young children. [pp. 6]

Kelly added "that women who spend less time with their babies after they're first born are more likely to get depressed and be unhealthy." Indeed, Human Rights Watch notes that "[s]tudies have shown lesser rates of immunization and health visits for babies when maternity leaves are short, higher infant mortality where parental leave is unpaid, lower rates of breastfeeding connected with early return to work, and increased risk of depression among mothers with short leaves.":

Empirical research from around the world underscores the need for work-family supports, including paid and sufficiently long leave for new parents. Studies have shown lesser rates of immunization and health visits for babies when maternity leaves are short, higher infant mortality where parental leave is unpaid, lower rates of breastfeeding connected with early return to work, and increased risk of depression among mothers with short leaves. Data on poverty provides evidence of the financial importance of paid family leave after childbirth or adoption. The entry of families into poverty has been shown to be strongly associated with childbirth, especially in female-headed households. [pp. 10]

Despite their disagreement, Kelly said later in the show: "To those mommy bloggers out there, Mike Gallagher is actually a good guy and a friend. So all's fine, please don't send him any hate mail."

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    • Author by pete592 (August 08, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
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      Speaking from experience, I know fathers do get FMLA leave IF your employer has a minimum number of employees within a certain geographical radius. Otherwise, it's up to the leave laws of your state, and barring that, the kindness and generosity of your employer. My employer had no such kindness and generosity when it came to the birth of my daughter.
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    • Author by politeradical (August 08, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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      Good for you Megyn. Way to stand up for US mothers.
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    • Author by magnolialover (August 08, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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      I think what's silly is that we don't have paid family leave here in the US. I mean, for a lot of families, it really does mean, have child, and get back to work ASAP. For both the father AND the mother. There aren't too many families that can take un-paid time off. You're lucky if you can.
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      • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
           
        I was able to take off for the birth of my children, but I was forced to use saved up sick days and vacation days if I wanted to be payed for it. I could have taken extra - unpaid - but I just had a kid, I couldn't afford to not get paid!
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (August 08, 2011 5:05 pm ET)
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      How humiliating must it be to be schooled by Megyn Kelly?
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    • Author by dogbreath (August 08, 2011 5:20 pm ET)
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      I would put money on the line that Kelly didn't support the FMLA until she had a baby. I wonder how her opinions would change if she was forced to live off of food stamps for the month or two.
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      • Author by Badtime (August 08, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
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        Probably the same way crybaby beck's changed about health care when he was in the hospital (and then quickly changed back when he was out).
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    • Author by pete x tp (August 08, 2011 5:47 pm ET)
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      She's still a nasty, shrill, harpy. If her personallity is the same at home as it is on the air I predict a miserable life for the poor kid.
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    • Author by pete592 (August 08, 2011 6:05 pm ET)
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      Highly-paid, right-wing professional liars live a life that is far different from what most of us experience. Most of the time, they speak on behalf of all those who share their lifestyle of luxury and privilege. That's their job. But there are rare instances where something hits a little too close to home and the honesty that's buried deep within exposes itself.
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    • Author by calijohn (August 08, 2011 6:24 pm ET)
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      very interesting that she is all for paid maternity leave - at the very least, unpaid maternity leave - but is more than willing to throw millions of people under the bus by supporting repeal of the health care law.
      when i was a kid, my mother cautioned me not to cross my eyes lest they stay that way. is there the same danger by talking out of both sides of your mouth? if so, megan, beware.
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      • Author by shaggles (August 08, 2011 7:18 pm ET)
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        From her words I would say she is all for mandated paid maternity leave.
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        • Author by Lizinbklyn (August 09, 2011 10:28 am ET)
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          If we all had a penny for every diaper she changed since giving birth . .

          Well, you know the answer . .
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          • Author by MiniTru (August 09, 2011 1:12 pm ET)
               
            We still wouldn't be able to buy any bubble gum.
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            • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 5:38 pm ET)
                 
              Not even from the penny machine (yes, some still exist).
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            • Author by riverdog (August 09, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
                 
              at da blaze they are saying gallagher is right and she's a liberal. WOW.
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              • Author by open_mind (August 09, 2011 10:27 pm ET)
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                I was a little shocked that Kelly brought up the act that was passed by a Democratic Congress and a Democratic President and had Rush Limbaugh using the bill as evidence the world would absolutely come to an end in 1993.

                Anyone who takes advantage of that law is a flat out communist according to "real" conservatives. Kelly must not have gotten that memo.
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    • Author by GreenLantern (August 08, 2011 6:57 pm ET)
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      "KELLY -- but the United States is the only advanced country that doesn't require paid leave. If anything, the United States is in the dark ages when it comes to maternity leave."
      Sadly this country is going INTO the dark ages FAST, not putting them farther behind us.........
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    • Author by shaggles (August 08, 2011 7:16 pm ET)
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      "KELLY: The United States is the only country in the advanced world that doesn't allow paid - doesn't require paid maternity leave. Now I happen to work for a nice employer that gives me paid maternity leave. But virtually no --"

      Funny how I never heard her use this argument during the health care debate 'cause were also the only country in the "advanced world" that doesn't have universal healthcare. Incidentally I just read that the UK's public healthcare system is one of the most efficient and cost effective in the world. Think of how much money we'd save if we went that way.
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      • Author by MickD (August 08, 2011 7:19 pm ET)
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        FoxNoose, a NooseCorpse company has a nice socialist policy for their new mommas. What would the Kock Bros. say?
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        • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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          Socialist policy? How can a private business have a socialist policy?

          Definition of SOCIALISM
          1
          : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
          2
          a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
          3
          : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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      • Author by grmce (August 08, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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        The simple fact that doesn't seem to have penetrated is that the U.S. healthcare system - even as reformed - is little more than a scheme to protect and subsidise the private health insurance industry.

        That is why the U.S. health system is one of the most inneffective and ineffectual in the world. All of that American Exceptionalism stuff is generally understood by the rest of the world to be code for U.S. arrogant parochialism and stupidity.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (August 09, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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          That is why the U.S. health system is one of the most inneffective and ineffectual in the world.


          In the world? Really? What exactly are you basing this on? Try spending some time at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester. You'll be enlightened on how effective our health care system really is.

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          • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 5:43 pm ET)
               
            The health care itself is pretty good (some better than others, as you so nicely pointed out), it's the institutions built up around it (insurance, pharma, equipment) that are horrible, mostly because they are primarily about making money and not about the actual helth of the patients.
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          • Author by Brabantio (August 10, 2011 4:43 am ET)
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            Did you really just post that? So if the upper crust has amazing health care, then the system must be good even if the vast majority of the population is in poor health. What the hell does one clinic in one city have to do with a "system"?

            It's like proving there's no obesity problem in the country by pointing to the Olympic gymnastic team.
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      • Author by mattcable250650 (August 09, 2011 6:51 am ET)
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        It was one of the great contributions that Dan Quayle (Vice President under the elder George Bush) made to political discourse. Quayle was strongly and fiercely anti-abortionist who felt that abortion was an evil and terrible thing under all circumstances. Then, he was asked how he'd feel if his daughter told him she needed an abortion. Instantly, in the space of a heartbeat, Quayle modified his view on abortion to say that, well of course he'd stand with and support his daughter!
        Yep, all that thar fine, fine rhetoric went flying out the window when his family was on the line!
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        • Author by grmce (August 09, 2011 7:54 am ET)
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          Off topic but mention of Quayle reminded me of a comment not far into the younger Bush's presidency, "Now I realise why Bush Snr. chose Dan Quayle for his V.P. - he's the intellectual son that he always wanted."
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          • Author by MiniTru (August 09, 2011 1:19 pm ET)
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            Bush pretty much had to pick Quayle. Everyone else in the GOP who was qualified to be VP was more qualified than Bush was to be President.
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            • Author by riverdog (August 09, 2011 6:31 pm ET)
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              i dissagree min, bush the elder wasn't bad. he was a republican that you can deal with. remember he was the one who said reagans economic plan was voodooeconomics. also a decent republican who die a few days ago was oregons mark hatfield, anouther good person that wasn't so extreme. hatfield was probably the last decent republican left.
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      • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:15 pm ET)
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        Not so efficient

        According to the 2002 Globocan database run by the World Health Organisation's cancer advisers, 19.2 of every 100,000 Americans die of the disease, but 24.3 per 100,000 here die. On prostate cancer, a Lancet Oncology global study last year found that 91.9% of Americans with the disease were still alive after five years compared to just 51.1% in the UK.

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6127514/Sentenced-to-death-on-the-NHS.html

        http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7071660.stm

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3411761/Standards-at-UK-childrens-hospital-worse-than-in-developing-world.html
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        • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 5:49 pm ET)
             
          Could you also include the relevant data on cost per survivor and how much of that is paid directly by the survivor? Efficiency is not about survival rates alone, it's about the cost to benefit ratio. Here in the US we tend to overpay for even moderate benefits, and often a substantial burdon is placed on the individual.
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    • Author by MorHubro (August 08, 2011 7:24 pm ET)
         
      "- ...Human Rights Watch found that "just three countries definitively offer no legal guarantee of paid maternity leave: Papua New Guinea, Swaziland--and the United States":"

      I often use this as an example of just how far behind we are when it comes to doing more than paying lip service to family values. Having a new baby puts a lot of stress on a family. Many families don't get paid maternity leave at all, and having a baby in this country is not cheap, so most middle class parents are stressed financially as well as sleep deprived, and believe me; six weeks (paid or unpaid) maternity leave is not enough by far. Leaving a tiny infant in the care of strangers is, in my opinion, equal to post traumatic stress. Norway offers a full year paid maternity leave, which can be shared by both parents. And before the hue and cry goes up about all the women who would rush out and get pregnant in order to get a years vacation; it will not happen. Parental responsibility to provide food, clothing, education, good child care and decent housing does not end when maternity leave ends, and it does not get any cheaper. A new baby does not make for a restful vacation.
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    • Author by kaiteebree (August 09, 2011 12:31 am ET)
         
      So let me see if I get this right....a FAUX News host who is against all forms of government regulations, laws, intrusions into how a company runs it's business, etc add infinetum...is now in favor of a government MANDATE to make maternity leave available to all? I can't figure that out? Is it just that the only regulations she is in favor of are the ones that benefit her, personally? Surely she wouldn't be in favor of maternity leave for the lady at MacDonalds that fixes her Big Mac? Here's a hypothetical scenario --- Say a regular working guy, an aircraft mechanic lets say, gets a gal pregnant during a one night fling. She doesn't want the baby but the guy begs and pleads for her to have his child and once it is born, he will take sole responsibility for it. She agrees, has the kid and goes her own way. Now he is a single dad....should he be allowed maternuity leave for a few months to get things in order and bond with his child? I say yes. But guaranteed, dollars to donuts the bimbo would say NO!
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    • Author by lisakauai (August 09, 2011 2:53 am ET)
         
      I'm actually kind of surprised at this conversation (if you can call it that). It sure would be nice to read some constructive criticism... this is supposed to be a "research" site. I was expecting more intellectual discussion than ripping looks and name calling. Why the obsession with fox anyway? If I wanted to know what is going on with that station, I would watch it...
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    • Author by WilliamP (August 09, 2011 5:49 am ET)
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      Hard to maintain the lock-step pro-business, anti-liberal line when it strays so far from common sense, isn't it Megyn? Now that you're in a position in which you might benefit from a law that interferes with business to protect workers, it seems unfair to let your fellow conservative pundits level unsupported attacks at the law, doesn't it?
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      • Author by mattcable250650 (August 09, 2011 6:53 am ET)
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        Back in the 1990s, when I was in the Navy, we actually heard of a General who declared that soldiers shouldn't get married and/or have children. The General felt that married life was inconsistent with military needs and that soldiers should simply wait until the end of their time in the service before getting married. Now, I served with a lot of dedicated sailors who were more than willing to make serious sacrifices in order to serve their country, but they generally regarded the General's attitude as being straight out of, as Kelly said, the "dark ages."
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        • Author by Imbecile (August 09, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
             
          When Desert Shield began back in 1990, I was called into the office of my Ops Officer. I was told to get my wife and 6-month old baby packed up and ready to send back to the states because I was getting orders to go to Saudi Arabia.

          I tried to explain that my daughter was only 6 months old and I needed to be there for her.

          I'll never forget the exchange that followed.

          Ops Officer: Did we issue your wife and daughter to you?
          Me: Sir?
          Ops Officer: Did you get your wife and daughter issued to you at supply?
          Me: No, sir.
          Ops Officer: then get them on a f**king plane back to the states.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (August 09, 2011 10:25 am ET)
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      The only occasion a faux employee shows compassion is when a topic touches home . .

      Who's watching the new baby, A NANNY?

      Soccer Mom Kelly really has it rough, eh?
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    • Author by TXI (August 09, 2011 11:02 am ET)
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      It's ok to advocate for policies that the rest of the civilized world enacted years ago as long as those are policies that you want, right Megyn?
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      • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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        Same can be said for your libs. Since were one of the only county with natural born citizen law you are ok with getting rid of that?
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        • Author by MiniTru (August 09, 2011 1:21 pm ET)
             
          Since were one of the only county with natural born citizen law you are ok with getting rid of that?
          Could someone please translate that gibberish into coherent?
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          • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:24 pm ET)
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            No other civilized county automatically makes a person a citizen simply because their mother gives birth to them on their counties soil.
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            • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
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              stupid phone

              Countries soil
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            • Author by buckyg (August 09, 2011 1:58 pm ET)
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              hey dumb dick, did you make any attempt at researching this retarded statement before hand or are you just going off what your radio told you?

              countries that observe jus soli or birthright citizenship

              antigua and barbuda
              argentina
              barbados
              belize
              bolivia
              brazil
              cambodia
              canada
              chile
              columbia
              costa rica
              dominica
              dominican republic
              ecuador
              el salvador
              fiji
              grenada
              guatamala
              guyana
              honduras
              jamaica
              lesotho
              mexico
              nicaragua
              pakistan
              panama
              paraguay
              peru
              trinidad and tobago
              *UNITED STATES (notice how its not the only one like you said)
              uruguay
              venezuela
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              • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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                Lol nice list of third world Countries. I will admit I missed Canada. So there is one developed country that has birthright citizenship.


                U.S./Canada Are Last Remaining Developed Nations Giving Birthright Citizenship To Tourists & Illegal Aliens
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                • Author by ilikeike (August 09, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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                  actually you said civilized country.please explain how the U.S. and Canada are more civilized than honduras, trinidad,nicaragua, dominican,barbados etc.You were wrong. as usual you spouted off on an irrelevant tack, not knowing what you were talking about. And now you are trying to backtrack.
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                  • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 6:32 pm ET)
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                    You have got to be kidding right. Civilized and developed is the same thing. You have obviously never been to those countries, or you would know the difference.. And yes I have been to several of those countries listed. I have been to Peru, Panama, Nicaragua, Mexico, Honduras, Jamaica, Guatemala, and Belize.
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                    • Author by Deluded (August 09, 2011 8:17 pm ET)
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                      So what's the distinction you're trying to draw betwen developed and developing countries upholding jus soli?.

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                • Author by Handsome Pete (August 09, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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                  Have you been to any of those countRies, or are you just going by your pre-conceived notions that they are automatically uncivilized? You know, except for the ones with white people?
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                  • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 6:33 pm ET)
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                    Yes I have been to several of those countries listed. I have been to Peru, Panama, Nicaragua, Mexico, Honduras, Jamaica, Guatemala, and Belize.
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                • Author by NotSure8 (August 09, 2011 5:54 pm ET)
                     
                  Well I for one am glad. When I visited Europe, gypsies were pretty difficult to deal with, probably as a reaction to the backwards policies of those countries.
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                • Author by buckyg (August 09, 2011 10:02 pm ET)
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                  i like how you make a claim, have it pointed out that you are preposterously wrong, and you just move the goal posts to make it seems as if you were right. pick whatever standards you want, we still arent the only country, developed or civilized, that allows jus soli
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        • Author by Panic Man (August 09, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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          HURR DURR LIBS LIBS LIBS LIBS

          Good dog, have a treat!
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    • Author by highliter (August 09, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
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      Sure why not make a private business give you 3 months paid because you decided to have a child. My wife owns her own business as was back to work in 2 weeks.
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      • Author by MiniTru (August 09, 2011 1:22 pm ET)
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        Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure she was...
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      • Author by Panic Man (August 09, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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        And let me guess, she lives in Canada, and that's why we've never seen her.
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      • Author by Imbecile (August 09, 2011 1:57 pm ET)
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        If your wife was a real American, she would have given birth at work and been back after a 15-minute unpaid break and she would have been proud of it.
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      • Author by Lizinbklyn (August 09, 2011 2:29 pm ET)
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        She probably works from home selling her 'crafts' in her 'craft room' . .
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    • Author by o rly (August 09, 2011 3:32 pm ET)
         
      I never thought I'd say this, but go Megyn Kelly.
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    • Author by o rly (August 09, 2011 3:45 pm ET)
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      Isn't it funny when a conservative has something personally affect them, they develop a liberal attitude. Hmmmm.
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      • Author by riverdog (August 09, 2011 6:36 pm ET)
           
        yes they do O, like nancy reagans plea for stem cell research. her son michael told her to shutup.
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        • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (August 10, 2011 12:36 am ET)
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          yes they do O, like nancy reagans plea for stem cell research. her son michael told her to shutup.

          Michael Reagan is the adopted son of Ronald Reagan and Jayne Wyman.
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          • Author by riverdog (August 10, 2011 3:01 pm ET)
               
            Michael Reagan is the adopted son of Ronald Reagan and Jayne Wyman..

            yes pearlene i know. are you saying that being adopted he isn't real?
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    • Author by mercado (August 10, 2011 9:21 am ET)
      1  
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Gallagher_(journalist)

      Here's is all you need to know about Gallagher and why he fits right in on Fox, besides being gay as a 3 three-dollar bill! Looking gayer and gayer everytime his mug shows up on-air, being branded with the handle of "LIAR" was his calling-card to be a Fox-Fav!
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (August 10, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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      Who knew Megyn Kelly hated her country so much?

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