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EXCLUSIVE: Regulator Says Murdoch Oil Shale Company Must Fix Faulty Wells

September 02, 2011 4:43 pm ET by Sarah Pavlus

The state of Colorado says it will require American Shale Oil, LLC, -- a company backed by Rupert Murdoch and Dick Cheney -- to fix several poorly cemented wells that, according to the state, appear to be endangering ground water in western Colorado.

Halliburton -- the oil and gas giant once headed by Cheney -- conducted the cementing and cement evaluation of the wells and rated several as having "poor" cement bonds in certain segments, according to a memo that American Shale Oil (AMSO) submitted to state and federal regulators in late July.

In the July 26 memo, AMSO claimed the poor cementing in its wells "poses little threat" to groundwater resources in the Piceance Basin on Colorado's Western Slope, where the company is leasing federal land to pursue oil shale research and development.

But the state disagrees. When contacted about the AMSO memo, Steve Shuey, a Senior Environmental Protection Specialist for the Colorado Division of Reclamation, Mining and Safety (DRMS), told Media Matters in a statement that the cementing fell short of the plans filed by the company and it "appears to be inadequate to protect" the region's aquifers. Shuey said the state would require AMSO to fix the cementing:

DRMS has reviewed the document to which you refer. We recognize that the well completion cementing was not conducted as specified in the Well Construction Designs of the approved NOI [Notice of Intent]. The current well completion status appears to be inadequate to protect the Uinta and A-Groove aquifers. DRMS will be sending AMSO a letter requiring remedial cement and completion work be performed on tomography wells TM-1 through TM-4 to ensure adequate protection of the groundwater resource.

When asked about Shuey's statement, AMSO maintained that the cementing issues identified in its July memo do not significantly impact the "protection of water quality" and told Media Matters the company would "work with the responsible agencies to resolve any outstanding concerns." According to an AMSO spokesperson:

AMSO's priority is to protect the Piceance Basin aquifers.  In fact, we are initially concentrating on developing the shale located far below the aquifer and insulated from it by an impermeable cap rock.  With regard to the cementing of our casings, none of the issues identified in AMSO's "Casing Cement Operations and Evaluations" memo significantly impacts our retort confinement or protection of water quality.  We have several redundant systems in place to protect the aquifers.  In addition to protecting the aquifers, we are documenting the effectiveness of our ground water protection program by conducting a long term aquifer monitoring baseline, operational and post operation period program.  We will work with the responsible agencies to resolve any outstanding concerns.

Briana Mordick, an Oil & Gas Science Fellow at the Natural Resources Defense Council told Media Matters that the poor cementing "could cause water contamination" and said that "remedial cementing can and should be performed":

This is only a small-scale demonstration project but they're already falling short of constructing their wells to the highest, or even adequate, standards. These wells are located on wildlands that belong to the American people. The oil shale industry and regulators must not accept poorly constructed wells.

Proper casing and cementing are crucial to protecting fresh water from contamination and ensuring mechanical integrity of the well. An inadequate bond between the casing and cement can put both drinking water and the well itself at risk.

Remedial cementing can and should be performed on those wells with poor cement bonds. Well TM-4 is of particular concern because there is no cement whatsoever behind the top 700 feet of casing - an interval that contains a groundwater aquifer. This could cause water contamination and damage to the well.

Oil shale development has long enticed investors and those seeking a route to energy independence, but no company has yet proven a way to make the process both commercially viable and environmentally sound.

Genie Energy -- which has a major stake in AMSO and another oil shale venture in Israel (IEI) -- acknowledged as much in a recent filing with the SEC. Under "Risks Related to Genie Oil and Gas," the division of the energy company focused on oil shale development, the company said: "We have no current production of oil and gas and we may never have any." Referencing the technology AMSO plans to test in Colorado, the company continued, "In-situ technology for the extraction of oil and gas from oil shale is in its early stages of development and has not been deployed commercially at large scale. AMSO, LLC and IEI may not be able to develop environmentally acceptable and economically viable technology in connection therewith."

Genie Energy is currently a subsidiary of IDT Corporation, a global telecommunications firm. However, IDT filed initial documents with the SEC earlier this week to spin off Genie in late October. Last year, Murdoch joined the "strategic advisory board" of Genie Energy and purchased an equity stake in Genie Oil and Gas. Other high-profile advisers and investors include Cheney, Lord Jacob Rothschild, and Michael Steinhardt, a prominent hedge fund investor and philanthropist.

Genie Energy clearly sees value in its association with Murdoch. It touted the "vast experience and immeasurable value" Murdoch would bring to the board when he joined it last September. In July, the company stood by Murdoch, calling him a "valued member of Genie Energy's Strategic Advisory Board," even as public outrage grew over allegations that his British tabloids illegally hacked the voicemails of thousands of people and bribed the police.

Fox News Channel and Fox Business Network, which are owned by Murdoch's News Corp, have repeatedly featured reports on Genie's oil shale ventures without disclosing Murdoch's conflict of interest. Other News Corp. outlets -- like The Wall Street Journal and the Times of London -- have touted the oil shale projects but disclosed Murdoch's financial stake.

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    • Author by Nihilist (September 02, 2011 4:48 pm ET)
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      aint it funny how you havent heard a peep out last weeks earthquake in the east, possibly due to fracking..... anyone, buelller?????
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      • Author by hoopvillain (September 02, 2011 4:57 pm ET)
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        I wonder why faux nooze supports the Tar Sands Pipeline.
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      • Author by hoopvillain (September 02, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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        I wonder why faux nooze supports the expansion of oil shale development.
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        • Author by JP (September 02, 2011 6:38 pm ET)
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          hoop: It's because there owners are in favor of it! They could care less ( but not much) about it. They are making MONEY they don't care about the water systems that you use, they don't live there! They make the money and leave you to solve the problems left behind. And if it makes you ill they are working very hard for you to seek any health care! Arn't the corporate owned republicans such nice people! If you vote for them then you deserve it.
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          • Author by hoopvillain (September 02, 2011 9:04 pm ET)
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            It was a rhetorical question, I knew the answer, but thanks.
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            • Author by hoopvillain (September 03, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
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              Thumbs down, really?
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              • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 2:44 pm ET)
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                They can thumbs down everyone for all I care. It matters not. What matters, is that Colorado is doing the right thing. That state does not have an easy time with water sources, and a fair bit of my family lives in the state (I dont know why. Ive seen it. I think its boring!)

                So let the haters hate. It was probably a rightwing troll (or any troll, really. ideology doesnt matter to jerks.) All that really matters in this issue is that we not let these companies get away with basically poisoning the meager fresh water supplies we have.

                No amount of silly thumbs down can undo that. So let 'em whine, it accomplishes nothing.
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                • Author by CoolSlaw (September 05, 2011 10:40 am ET)
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                  So true.

                  Anyone can thumbs down anything. It takes the bare minimum of thought. The only time I ever even look at thumbs up and thumbs down is when someone points out something about it in a post that they bothered to write.
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                  • Author by mjlilgui (September 05, 2011 3:01 pm ET)
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                    I use the thumbs down to locate wingnut posts for additional reading enjoyment.
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      • Author by my4cents (September 02, 2011 10:13 pm ET)
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        Fracking does not, by itself, cause earthquakes.
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        • Author by somnambulist (September 03, 2011 6:17 am ET)
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          Well, it can, technically, but on a very minor scale if it hits an unusually unstable or unsettled piece of land... nothing of any actual note. Things in the 1.0 range. Very rarely these get picked up by the USGS, but they're both usually flagged with and thrown into the same data pool as coal industry work, and gets a filter out of the general database.

          Once in a blue moon the coal mining stuff gets above 2.0, which is published in the "official" USGS realtime log of quakes, but they're most always caught as that, it's thrown in comments, and it's not included in any averages or quake maps. But no, fracking would never happen in that range, lol.
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        • Author by Nihilist (September 03, 2011 11:18 am ET)
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          bs, the data is not in yet, but there have reports of tremors in arkansas in areas of heavy fracking. you think you will hear about this in the media, when half the ads on the cables are from exxon/mobile? the media aint telling you about the massive radiation from fukushima that is spreading thru japan, and might have hit the west coast...

          but leave it to the bagger trolls here, to run with GOP talking points..
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          • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 2:52 pm ET)
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            Consider fear. While yes its almost defnetly rightwing trolls, there are people who go completely crazy with fear over things like radiation and earthquakes. Usually, those who know very little besides what popular fiction has to say about 'em.

            Ivebeen through a ton of earthquakes. Most of them you dont even really notice until they're over (lasting only moments) doesnt stop people from freaking out like idiots though. And that includes retroactive freaking out (freaking out abotu an earthquake that has already come and gone and is too small to produce significant aftershock.)
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    • Author by daymorris (September 02, 2011 5:10 pm ET)
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      Sounds like the Gulf Oil spill. Despite the fact Halliburton did the cementing they were not responsible for the cementing. Makes you wonder if Bush wasnt involved in this too. Lets see Bush illegally hacked phone calls with ATT and yet now Murdoch is hacking phone calls with ATT. Republican agenda at its finest where they think they are above the law and it doesnt apply to them. Also the reason republicans hate government because the government would make them clean it up. Boehner, Cantor and McConnell are probably doing everything to cover this up.
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      • Author by m.welker (September 02, 2011 5:48 pm ET)
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        Also the reason republicans hate government because the government would make them clean it up.

        They don't hate government in general. They just hate the part that holds people accountable to their actions and has at the center of its agenda the citizens of the country instead of the businesses of the country. The love the part of government that they sell products to and when in office get to use to wiretap citizens.
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        • Author by albertsenj (September 03, 2011 1:25 am ET)
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          Apparently, despite the Supreme Court's ruling that corporations are people, the concept of 'personal responsibility' doesn't extend to corporations.

          Since 'personal responsibility' is a key tenet of Conservative ideology, you would think that they would INSIST that these 'corporate persons' adhere to it.

          Perhaps, the GOP only sees a need to apply these concepts to those who are for either ideological or financial reasons not going to contribute to their political coffers?
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          • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 2:56 pm ET)
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            Yeah, well, you're asking for rightwing politics and jackassery to suddenly make sense in the way its supposed to. Thats not gonna happen.

            Point out that most people would be arrested for crimes that corporations committed and, well, find yourself ignored. I have never gotten a sane response to that question. I often get one that completely nullifies any claim to personhood the corporation has, (how can yuo arrest a corporation?!) while still claiming superhuman protection.

            Im surprised they didnt give corporations the vote.
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (September 02, 2011 5:14 pm ET)
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      The culture of News Corporation corruption starts at the top. I'm telling you, the phone hacking scandal in the U.K. isn't the only thing that's shady inside News Corporation. There are other companies that needs to be investigated.
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      • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:06 pm ET)
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        yeah, well, with daddy warbucks there swooping in to save the day for his oh-so-hurt corporate minions, that wont happen any time soon.

        Though he still has no problem raiding our piggy bank. at least the fictional one always left an IOU.

        (Yeah all that does make sense. Im 25 years old. I do not know why i know any of that.)
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        • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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          Oh if anyones curious, the guy who drew the comic killed off warbucks in the 1940s as a sort of protest, since he thought society considerd capitalists obsolete.

          The Point? This group has always been freaking insane and over the top. ALWAYS. He killed daddy warbucks for gods sake! Then ressurrected him later. I dont know how all that went down but it was probably stupid.
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    • Author by takemycountryback (September 02, 2011 5:25 pm ET)
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      Damn regulators! Now I know why Republicans hate them so much. Arggghhhhh.......
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (September 02, 2011 5:35 pm ET)
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      This just proves that Cheney continued to run Haliburton after he became Vice-President. After 9/11, his :Secret location was Haliburton's former headquarters in Houston where he planned the invasion of Iraq and gave Haliburton/KBR all of the No Bid contracts.
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      • Author by Nihilist (September 03, 2011 11:21 am ET)
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        cheney put his stocks in a 'blind trust' meaning he still owned them and since he is out of office he has reinstated his trusts back to his control.... you wont hear from any cables about the amount of billions paid to haliburton in government welfare, but you will hear the shills for the oligarchs about some poor schnooks needing government help.....

        did you know that haliburton is paid 20 billion a year just for A/C in ashacanistan???
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    • Author by mata ruach (September 02, 2011 5:45 pm ET)
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      Despite the assurances from the chipmunk cheeked talking head ( see msnbc for an example!) that the oil and gas industry provides to assure us that fracking is for our own benefit , we now discover that they cut corners, and ignore the advice of those employed by their own industry , whose only purpose , it seems, is to lull the public into a false sense of security , so that can they milk every dollar possible from natural gas reserves , in any manner that they choose. That Dick Cheney is involved in this travesty is not surprising, in the least.
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      • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:15 pm ET)
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        That comcast merger shouldve been made illegal day 1, when they fired Keith Olbermann. That it wasnt shows you just how much jackassery the republicans engage in. If it werent for rachel that station would fall to the rightwingers instantly. Because its owned by Worst Company In The World Comcast.
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    • Author by dhertzfe (September 02, 2011 5:47 pm ET)
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      Well, well..... this explains a lot about Murdoch and his interests and rhetoric on FAUX news. Interesting when it all comes to light.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 02, 2011 5:52 pm ET)
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        Ineresting, perhaps, but hardly surprising.

        I wonder if we'll hear anything about this on ye olde Liberal Media?

        ($10 says I get their Oil-Shale / Pro-Fracking propaganda video in my in-box again though!)

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        IMHO
        UTOPIA
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        • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:21 pm ET)
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          I still like the "Clean Coal" propaganda ones. The ones where not one moment actually showed an actual thing in the real world. It was all CG. And I actually like the way industrial parks look at night (I have a fascination with light and lighting.) Im like, the easiest person in the world to convince something that looks pretty at night is a good thing. How they amanged to drop that ball is beyond me. I wouldve been slightly more impressed if theyd just shown a regular coal plant
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    • Author by magnolialover (September 02, 2011 6:16 pm ET)
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      See? Regulators are impeding business again. I guess those republicans were right after all.
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    • Author by MsYellowDog (September 02, 2011 6:59 pm ET)
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      All you pilgrims downslope from the Western Rockies(are you listening,Phoenix and LA?)...YOU DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' CLEAN WATER TO DRINK. Don't you be bothering Halliburton with such nonsense!
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      • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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        Oh dont be silly. We need clean water. But worry not. Haliburton is making a nice new product to extract the oil from your drinking water. See? Theyve thought of everything! And you may be wondering, but what about all the toxic stuff thats in the water now? Easy. Grave Reclaimation Technology is slated to replace all standard graveyards within 20 years!

        No logner need haliburton worry about our petty deaths in the face of profits!
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    • Author by Val Shires (September 02, 2011 11:31 pm ET)
         
      How come no one has mentioned that Rupert Murdoch owns McGraw Hill Co. which is the parent company of Standard and Poors (S&P)? Rupert has done his damnest to destroy our elected President and the Democratic party through the Fox Network and his many medias. He created Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and several hundred other mercennaries to do his bidding. This is insult to injury since he is Austrailian born and was given an easy citizenship by his political cronies to work around a constitutional requirement for owning an excessive communication empire in the USA. Obviously our founding fathers and their predecessors understood the danger of having a usurper in control of this nation's information distribution. They operate on the time honored concept: "Repeat it enough times and it will be believed!" He owns 60% of all of the United States' news media companies and has a major attitude problem with anything not under his control such as: Obama, Democrats, and those who disagree with his distorted concept of the American Way...... The Tea Party inadvertently sprang out of Sean Hannity's Freedom Concerts that got out of control, Rupert put an end to Sean's Ego Concerts as soon as the Tea Party evolved...he did not like the direction the party was going in.....It was just a matter of time before Murdoch's underhanded, agenda would trip him up,,,,, Hacking in England,,,,,, He's getting senile as we all do,,,, and it is just possible he told his puppet at Standard and Poor to remind the World ...Who's the Boss........... This is too much......... Tell your elected representative to fix this situation.......We can not just stand by and watch Rupert continue to Usurp power through a violation of our Constitution and Founding Father's warning........ Break it up and take away this man's citizenship!
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    • Author by RaisedRight (September 03, 2011 12:33 am ET)
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      My alley:

      In fact, we are initially concentrating on developing the shale located far below the aquifer and insulated from it by an impermeable cap rock. With regard to the cementing of our casings, none of the issues identified in AMSO's "Casing Cement Operations and Evaluations" memo significantly impacts our retort confinement or protection of water quality.


      This means that they are sealing the well casing with earth. It is the best sealant available. Earth moves. It makes a fine seal when you are drilling and driving the casing in.

      Remedial cementing can and should be performed on those wells with poor cement bonds. Well TM-4 is of particular concern because there is no cement whatsoever behind the top 700 feet of casing - an interval that contains a groundwater aquifer. This could cause water contamination and damage to the well.


      700 feet down? of course the earth around the casing is going to seal it up. The most you are going to seal is the first 60 feet of any well. After that nature is going to take its course.

      It has been debated for a couple decades what seal is the best for any well. Is it cement or a bentonite grout? Only the future will tell. A few collages are testing the theories. What is more important is the fact that many residential wells are contaminating the aquifers. New construction is not a problem. The coalbed methane drilling and extraction is not a problem. Fracking is not a problem. We are fracking way below any water source we would ever tap into. Natural gas extraction is very GREEN. To attack Haliburton or any other gas company is against any green programs.

      What regulators need to focus on is wells that are already drilled and not up to code. But, here is the catch.. There are laws and not enough to enforce.

      So, we have some people in some state job that has something to do with water resources or environmental protection they will shut down a natural gas resource?

      That seems a little anti green.

      The gas companies are not hurting anyone. Too much "could" and "might". Let them be.

      If you are bent on the fact that earth moves and they need to repair some wells because of some movement.. ok. They will fix it. Pretty much standard practice.

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      • Author by Rollo (September 03, 2011 1:24 am ET)
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        If Natural Gas Extraction(Fracking)is very 'Green' like you say:

        1. Why are he chemicals used in the fracking process secret?

        2. How do you explain the contamination of water in areas fracking has taken place?

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        • Author by RaisedRight (September 03, 2011 1:56 am ET)
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          No chemicals are used in the fracking process. Just water.. water is not compressible. Not by any physics anyway, just a bit, but they pump a load of water into the formation to break it up to extract the gas. The gas is trapped in the shale formation. So, they pump water into formation to break it up and the the gas, methane, flows out.

          If the water they use is contaminated it will contaminate the process they use. But, I have not seen any reports of that. And, most if not all fracking is done way below any water source we tap into.

          There has been no known contamination of any water source that has been used for human consumption because of fracking. The usual source for coal bed methane extraction has been areas away from any population of people.

          The process is simple. Pump water out of the methane imbedded coal layers and the gas will rise. Harvest the gas and you win. Getting down there and getting the gas is the hard part.

          The resource is huge and it spans many states.
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          • Author by Rollo (September 03, 2011 2:30 am ET)
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            1. Chemicals are used in the fracking process.

            2. There have been numerous accounts of water sources used by human consumption being contaminated, because of fracking.

            I just watched a documentary on fracking the other night, where they explained the entire fracking process. They also showed several different people who had their drinking water contaminated, one person could actually light the water coming out of his tap on fire. Your assertion that fracking isn't done around any population of people is also untrue, because in the documentary they showed how the gas companies would pay people to perform the fracking process on their property and allow them to install the well where the gas would be retrieved. Soon as I can remember the name of the program, I will give you the name, so you can check it out.
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          • Author by MidnightWriter (September 03, 2011 9:27 am ET)
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            Chemicals used in the fracking process.

            On this list you'll find Benzene, a known carcinogen, Toluene, a substance when inhaled can cause neurological harm, and Ethylbenzene which can cause kidney damage.

            How would you feel about having that stuff in your drinking water, RR?
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            • Author by Rollo (September 03, 2011 12:08 pm ET)
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              Thank you!
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            • Author by mikehuck76 (September 03, 2011 4:50 pm ET)
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              Imagine that. RaisedRight is completely misinformed and ignorant on a subject, yet attempts to lecture others. Perhaps you should consider some new sources of information gathering, yes RaisedRight?
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          • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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            Protip: If you wanna convicne us, you should get a username that isnt snarkfilled. Why should we listen to you when you are clearly willing, before even one word of your post is read, to attack us? We shouldnt. THeres no good reason to listen to someone who starts with an attack.

            Its your own fault. Come back when you dont want to be an ass about it.
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          • Author by CatsRBigLuv (September 04, 2011 1:34 am ET)
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            RaisedWrong,

            you state,
            There has been no known contamination of any water source that has been used for human consumption because of fracking. The usual source for coal bed methane extraction has been areas away from any population of people.


            You need to do your homework, champ.

            This is a segment from the documentary that Rollo is talking about above.

            The effect of fracking on residential water sources is already a pretty well documented phenomenon... its really only a surprise to you.


            You know buddy, just like your comments about bigotry not being a problem in the US, you seem to have this habit of just throwing out unvetted, unverified nonsense, solely for the purpose of reifying a very dishonest, very bigoted reactionary political narrative.

            Seriously, i cant tell if you just try to be so misinformed, or if someone did this to you.

            Either way, with his investments in irresponsible energy baroning, and a powerful media complex whose sole purpose is to subvert the democratic process for the sake of those interests (if that isnt evident enough on Fox News, you can just get David Cameron to confirm), it looks like your dear Minister Murdoch is proving himself to much more the dreaded Puppet master than any one else.
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          • Author by syrabell (September 04, 2011 4:32 pm ET)
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            here is a list of countries that have stopped or limited "fracking"
            with the reason for the suspensions. Source is Wikipedia.
            Australia
            On 21 February 2011, the ABC's investigative journalism program Four Corners aired a program showing incidents of gas leaks into the water basin and evidence of contamination by hydraulic fracturing in Chinchilla, Queensland as a result of drilling carried out by a Queensland gas company, QGC.[36]
            There is currently a moratorium in place on the practice of hydraulic fracturing in the state of New South Wales.
            [edit]Canada
            Concerns about fracking began, in late July 2011, when the Government of British Columbia gave Talisman Energy a long-term water licence to draw water from the BC Hydro-owned Williston Lake reservoir, for a twenty year term. Fracking has also received criticism, in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. The practice has been temporarily suspended, in Quebec, pending an environmental review. The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives has also expressed concern.[37]
            [edit]France
            Hydraulic fracturing was banned in France in 2011 after public pressure.[38]
            [edit]New Zealand
            In New Zealand, hydraulic fracturing is part of petoleum exploration and extraction on a small scale mainly in Taranaki and concerns have been raised by environmentalists.[39][40]
            [edit]South Africa
            There is currently a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing in South Africa's Karoo region despite the interest of several energy companies.[41]
            [edit]United Kingdom
            Some hydraulic fracturing is currently proceeding in the United Kingdom operated by Cuadrilla and a number of other companies. In one instance operations have been suspended after two small earthquakes subsequent to drilling operations.[42]

            I suggest you do some research by entering Fracking into a search engine of your choice, and see what sorts of information is available. I suggest that you look for yourself, expand your search to include sources other than those suggested to you by allies and see the otherside of the issue. Expand your knowledge by seeking the opinions and facts presented by those you don't agree with. To have a good debate you must first seek the facts from your opponents so that you can counter their arguments with facts. To post just opinion on a site like this is just a waste of time and counter productive to your cause.
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    • Author by HotWings (September 03, 2011 4:01 am ET)
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      Nice. Media Matters gets to combine it's jihad against Rupert Murdoch with it's jihad against oil drilling. Media Matters scored a nice two for one on this one.
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      • Author by yoiksaway (September 03, 2011 4:20 am ET)
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        Poor guy. You gotta feel for him.

        Would you explain the MMFA "jihad against oil drilling" with a little more depth? I'd like to learn!
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      • Author by kabniel (September 03, 2011 5:20 am ET)
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        While hothead gets to spew more lies and display his natural stupidity and his un-natural brainwashing at the same time. I think THAT is a nice twofer
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      • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:30 pm ET)
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        Nice. The rightwinger still thinks comparing us to terrorists (at least in your mind. Look up Jihad, idiot. it doesnt mean what you think it does.) and he expects us to care what he believes? Right. Fortunately, thumbs up/down dont matter for trolls. The Report Abuse button is for that.

        For fun, you can actually make a chart showing the abuse of a rightwing idiot is in direct cvonnection to the apperance of a new rightwing idiot. Same day usually. Of course, Id have to be some kind of jerk to accuse them all of sockpuppeting..

        oh wait, I AM some kind of jerk! You're a bunch of sockpuppeting failures who can only win through deception!
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      • Author by syrabell (September 04, 2011 4:37 pm ET)
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        Wow you have some serious issues. You seem to be on a "crusade" against anyone that doesn't agree with your opinion. You also seem to have a serious issue with the presentation of facts. The MMFA article is just a list of counter points based on facts collected.
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    • Author by heididad1417 (September 03, 2011 9:03 am ET)
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      If Cheney is involved then i'm convinced that whatever happens to peoples drinking water (like the program that showed the guy lighting the water coming out of his tap) is their problem and Cheney and his buddies couldn't care less.

      Cheney is an evil man.
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      • Author by mary59 (September 03, 2011 9:56 am ET)
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        Here's the documentary I think we're talking about: Gasland
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      • Author by kamrom (September 03, 2011 3:39 pm ET)
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        Disagree. "Evil" suggests a moral backing that one is intentionally going against. I dont think it even comes across his mind that his actions are deplorable. Think about how he reacted to accusations of torture. to see what I eman.

        Also, this is an easy shot, I feel bad about doing it, because im nice, and ill feel worse later on, but hell, I'm gonna take it, with formatting appropriate to the amount of thoguht i gave it.


        I have a hard time trusting a man who has no heartbeat.
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    • Author by Joshua Fox (September 03, 2011 1:36 pm ET)
         
      Thanks for this report. As you mentioned, the Cheney/Murdoch companies have moved their experimental oil shale activity to Israel.

      One reason for this is the weaker environmental controls here, specifically the lack of the requirement to get an environmental assessment for a first-stage (RD&D) lease. That's from Jeremy Boak, director of the industry-funded Center for Oil Shale Technology and Research and so an industry insider if there ever was one.
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    • Author by big_O_Other7415 (September 03, 2011 4:17 pm ET)
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      Murdoch is into the evil art of fracking, too.

      Is there no evil in which he and the dark prince Cheney won't indulge?
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      • Author by MidnightWriter (September 04, 2011 2:11 pm ET)
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        This isn't a matter of fracking being good or evil. I believe we all know that fracking is a frequently used technique for the extraction of natural gas and oil.

        The issue here has to do with the conflict of interests. We see Murdoch owned News Corp outlets singing the praises of a Murdoch owned oil shale company without acknowledging they're part of the same, happy family, while also downplaying the contamination risks.

        Evil? Perhaps not. Unethical and dishonest? Oh, hells yeah.
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