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Karl Rove vs. Karl Rove

October 21, 2011 2:13 pm ET by Eric Boehlert

In his weekly column for the Wall Street Journal, Karl Rove has written about how Obama is jeopardizing his chances for re-election by appearing too liberal or too populist, and that if he doesn't change his ways he'll turn off independent and "blue collar" voters.

The exercise is a bit silly since Rove, a professional partisan, wants Obama to lose re-election and wants Democrats to lose touch with independents. So why this charade about offering up sincere advice?

Well, now we know have clear evidence the advice isn't honest and that Rove's Journal column is something of a farce.

From Talking Points Media [emphasis added]:

American Crossroads, the big money GOP group founded by Karl Rove, is warning Republicans that President Obama's new campaign to raise taxes on millionaires is a political winner.

Under the header "Obama's New Class Warfare May Resonate," the group's director, Steven Law, cited their own polling data in a strategy memo to argue that the White House was gaining ground with its proposal to raise taxes on the wealthy.

"It may be the result of larger environmental conditions, or he may be moving the needle himself, but Obama's 'tax the rich' mantra is getting traction," Law wrote.

So partisan Republican operatives who work for a Karl Rove-founded group are nervous that Obama's recent turn to the left, and specifically his more populist rhetoric about taxing millionaires, "is getting traction."

But that sure doesn't square with Rove's recent observations in the Wall Street Journal. In one column he warned that Obama "damages himself" politically by "engaging in class warfare to push trillions in tax increases." And a deeply concerned Rove assured Democrats that in order for "the president to reconnect with the swing voters he desperately needs for victory," he had to avoid populist rhetoric. 

Note to Democrats: Ignore Rove's advice. 

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    • Author by magnolialover (October 21, 2011 2:19 pm ET)
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      Actually, last polling numbers I saw on taxing or increasing taxes in millionaires in America was extremely popular. Something around 76% said, yes, raise their taxes.

      If Rove thinks that Obama wanting to raise taxes on the rich in the country is a losing proposition, that means Obama should try and do it, and fast. Rove has lost touch with actual Americans. As mentioned before, a vast majority of Americans say to do it. If republicans were really listening to the "will of the people" as they claim they do, this would have been a done deal already.

      But... They don't listen to the will of the people. They listen to Tea Party only at this point in time, which again, is FAR from being what mainstream America wants, or believes in.
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      • Author by MiG (October 21, 2011 5:25 pm ET)
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        A vast majority of millionaires polled on the issue supports the proposal to raise their taxes to create jobs (65% in a September Harrison/American Express poll).

        Tea Partiers, Republicans, Independents, Democrats, Men, Women, and all other groups in this country supports the idea. The only group that doesn't? House and Senate Republicans - not a single one of them support it (publicly).

        It's not that they don't like the idea, it's that high unemployment is the only thing that could help them win the 2012 election.

        They know that none of the clowns running for their nomination will have a chance against Obama unless the unemployment number stays high.
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        • Author by magnolialover (October 21, 2011 7:20 pm ET)
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          Well. There you go. Again, will of the people NOT being done by republicans. Why? Mostly because they've let themselves become beholden to a very strong few and rich backers.
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        • Author by Unreality (October 22, 2011 1:50 am ET)
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          I assert this is the money quote:
          "not a single one of them support it"

          Statistically, where can you find complete unanimity in anything? Yet the Republicans in the Senate and House are completely unanimous. Not a single person of alternate opinion.

          That suggests they are not acting or thinking of their own free will.
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          • Author by curiousindependent (October 22, 2011 2:06 pm ET)
               
            Yep, if we could just find out the identy of the hivemind overlord, maybe we could do something about it.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (October 22, 2011 2:05 pm ET)
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          It's not that they don't like the idea, it's that high unemployment is the only thing that could help them win the 2012 election
          And why wouldn't they go with that plan? It worked for them in '10, when, after 2 years of steadfastly blocking every action attempted by Obama and Congressional Democrats that might have alleviated the unemployment issue, the Republitards (along with a few Teahadis) managed to wrest control of the House away from Democrats.

          Perhaps they believe that if they can just keep the nation on a downward track, more voters will be swayed their way.

          They surely do seem to be on that track.
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    • Author by all your eyes (October 21, 2011 2:20 pm ET)
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      Nevertheless, Obama suddenly shifts to the "left" after the governing portion of his first term is over, now that we're onto the campaign portion of the show. Thanks for playing.
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    • Author by armendale (October 21, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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      The Pinocchio paradox arises when Pinocchio says: 'My nose grows now', and is a version of the liar paradox. In philosophy and logic, the liar paradox consists of the statement 'This sentence is false.' Any attempts to assign a classical binary truth value to this statement leads to a contradiction, or paradox. This occurs because if the statement 'This sentence is false' is true, then it is false; this would mean that it is technically true, but also that it is false, and so on ad infinitum.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox
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    • Author by Imbecile (October 21, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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      His contradiction makes perfect sense when you realize that what he knows privately cannot be expressed publicly as he is a partisan above all else and the nature of his career has been to create narratives.

      So, what he says publicly is going to be based purely on the narrative that he hopes to create--that narrative being that supporting OWS-style policies is political suicide--rather than on what he knows to be true, which is that OWS-style policies are gaining in popularity and are not going away anytime soon, and that politicians who publicly oppose these types of populist movements won't fare well at election time.
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    • Author by beDecent (October 21, 2011 2:54 pm ET)
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      Any Democrat who listens to Karl Rove deserves to lose.
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    • Author by jonimacaroni1 (October 21, 2011 3:18 pm ET)
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      Should anyone at anytime pay attention to warnings from concern trolls? Nope.
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    • Author by NotSure8 (October 24, 2011 10:16 am ET)
         
      So why this charade about offering up sincere advice?

      We call that a "concern troll".
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