Discussing Occupy Wall Street, Coulter Says: "It Just Took A Few Shootings At Kent State To Shut That Down"
November 26, 2011 2:36 pm ET by Leslie Rosenberg & Adam Shah
As San Francisco Weekly and others have noted, while discussing Occupy Wall Street on November 17, Ann Coulter stated: "So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good."
SUSSMAN: I wanted to ask you this morning, you wrote this book almost as if you knew this movement was going to break loose.
COULTER: Yes, yeah the FBI ought to be looking into me. I mean, I knew there would be mob uprisings again, it -- they are, they are demonic thus the title of my book. We will always have the demonic among us. There will always be evil in the world. I did not anticipate that it would happen actually while I was on my book tour. Because -- but, it's been awhile since there's been something at least as broad as this, fortunately so far not as frightening or threatening as the weathermen or SDS, and it's hard to imagine how it could be in today's America.
Maybe it's just my sunny optimism, but I just feel like there's so much -- America is in a much, much better place now than it was historically with the internets, with talk radio, with Fox News.
SUSSMAN: Right.
COULTER: It was so easy for the liberals to control a large part of the country. I mean you always did have the silent majority as Nixon called it, but I just think it's easy for the silent -- easier for the silent majority to communicate with one another now. And thus, for example, instead of speaking in abstract terms, with the Occupy Wall Street, I mean I'm sure you've been online. All these kids with flipcams are out there filming the Occupy Wall Street, Occupy Oakland, and I'm sure occupy -- I bet I can find a video of what you were just describing, which sounds horrible, and I'm sorry about your bank by the way, and people can see for themselves and get the news they want themselves.
So at the moment anyway, I mean I don't know what's going to happen in New York today, but at the moment I'm not really worried of a movement like SDS which really swept a lot of the college campuses --
SUSSMAN: Yes.
COULTER: -- taking over. Of course if it does, just remember the lesson from my book: it just took a few shootings at Kent State to shut that down for good. And despite the Neil Young song --
SUSSMAN: Right.
COULTER: -- and every single article on Nexis/Lexis, those protests were -- I mean that must have been a very frightening time without the silent majority being able to communicate with one another via email, the Internet --
SUSSMAN: Yes.
COULTER: -- talk radio. And you know, those kids, the ones who started the Kent State riots was Bill Ayers' best friend and according to Ayers, homosexual lover. He ended up blowing himself up in that townhouse in Greenwich Village when they were trying to blow up army recruits -- a dance for army recruits and their dates. They were running through Kent State smashing jewelry store windows, burning the ROTC building to the ground, and when the firemen showed up, they threw rocks at the firemen, they slashed the fire trucks' hoses. This was really out of hand -- it wasn't some peace [unintelligible], you know, peace, love not war --
SUSSMAN: Right.
COULTER: -- rally, and also, according to the recent reporting by James Rosen, the National Guard may have been shot upon first. But the point is, these kids never realized that they couldn't go run around burn down a building and get anything from -- but praise from the mainstream media.
SUSSMAN: Wow, wow.
COULTER: This is the first time they got bullets back, and that put an end --
SUSSMAN: That was the end.
COULTER: -- to the protests pretty quickly. [emphases added]
Sadly, this is hardly the first time that Coulter has fantasized about the killing of her political enemies. It's not even the first time she invoked the Kent State massacre to do so.
In June, Coulter went on Fox News' Hannity and said: "There was the shooting at Kent State and gosh, I know, liberals don't like it and you look on Nexis and oh, the whole country was embarrassed. We'll I'm not embarrassed. That's what you do with a mob."
In August 2009, Coulter told Sean Hannity that White House adviser Ezekiel Emanuel "is on my death list."
In August 2006, Coulter wrote a column on then-Sen. Lincoln Chafee's (R-RI) race for re-election that she headlined: "They Shot the Wrong Lincoln."
In July 2006, after radio host Melanie Morgan asserted that if then-New York Times executive editor Bill Keller were convicted of treason for publishing leaked information she "would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber." Coulter wrote: "I prefer a firing squad, but I'm open to a debate on the method of execution. A conviction for treason would be assured under any sensible legal system." That same day, during an appearance on the radio, Coulter again suggested that New York Times staff members should be "executed."
In a January 2006 appearance at Philander Smith College in Little Rock, Arkansas, Coulter said of then-Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens: "We need somebody to put rat poison in Justice Stevens's créme brulée." Coulter attempted to explain away her remark as "just a joke, for you in the media."
In 2001, two days after the 9-11 attacks, Coulter wrote on National Review Online: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." Those comments, and Coulter's subsequent reaction to the controversy over them led to Coulter's column being dropped from National Review Online.
In a 1998 book, Coulter argued that the national debate during the Monica Lewinsky controversy should not have focused on whether Clinton "did it," but "whether to impeach or assassinate" him. The quotation appeared in Coulter's 1998 book High Crimes and Misdemeanors: The Case against Bill Clinton. She later asserted that her suggestion came in the context of a description of "the entire history of impeachment, which we got from the British. I explained how we changed it here in America. In Britain ... one of the punishments [for impeachment] was hanging."
Yet, Coulter remains a darling of Fox News. Indeed, Hannity interviewed Coulter as recently as November 15 and on the November 16 edition of Fox News' The Five, co-host Eric Bolling, while disagreeing with an argument Coulter had made, described her as "a good friend of mine. A brilliant, conservative commentator." (Transcript via Nexis.)
Is there anything Coulter could say that would cause Fox to stop giving her airtime?
even if she wasn't killed, maybe it would be a sign the coffee was done.
Outrageous, but her act has played itself out as far as it can go. There is nothing left to do after you literally and without irony, demonize your opponents.
She's slipped into an even more grotesque and shamefully unaware self parody.
People like Coulter believe that violent physical assault using military tactics is how the state should react and deal with The Rights political opponents who go out and exercise their Constitutional Rights to assemble peacefully to exercise their rights to free speech.
The Right is freaking out over the peaceful assembly of the Occupy Movement.
Could you imagine their shrieking if those in the Occupy Movement who are strong 2nd Amendment proponents were to gather peacefully and legally while openly bearing firearms of all types and calibers, as members of the Tea party did??
Actually we need to determine if Ann qualifies to even be classified as a human being before we get to the bottom of this conundrum.
Hmmmn, perhaps I'm over thinking this a tad, but WTH. ;-)
On the other hand, the voice is kind of like what you'd get listening to a sewage treatment plant grinder.
So says the blackest of the black hearts.
You're just looking at her cavalier attitude toward taking human lives, her compassionate side comes out when it's a building full of money that's attacked.
What kind of evil sociopath rejoices in the execution of innocent
Americans exercising their freedom of assembly and speech ?
When the photos from the Kent State Massacre hit the major magazines public opinion took a hard left turn.
"What kind of evil sociopath rejoices in the execution of innocent Americans exercising their freedom of assembly and speech?"
What kind of evil sociopath? Good question. What Coulter curiously omitted was American citizens were murdered by National Guardsmen.
The same National Guardsmen who probably joined the Guard in the first place to avoid the draft and sent to Vietnam.
Now COINTELPRO was absolute PROOF that the left organizations were being infiltrated by FBI and that these agents were acting as provocatuers who were trying to goad these groups into acts of violence and illegal activity. So Annie is just a liar she has no evidence whatsoever that even if shots WERE fired, and that isnt proven, that they were from the protesters. There is NO question that those killed were not any danger to the guardsmen
But they damaged real estate, something of value, not young Americans. That's why I picked out her comment on the bank above, Annie is the perfect face of the right wing today. They care about life, as long as it involves controlling reproduction, but as soon as that babies popped out, like a new car driven off the lot, it's losing value.
It's all money, things and stuff to these right wing "Christians", the idea that average Americans are starting to stand up to their scam has to be "Evil".
okay, well, maybe not. Maybe we should all yield to mary- she seems the most adult in the room ;)
If you disagree, fine, dont treat them that way but you are not my mother and dont get to tell me what to do. This is a tactic. I am well aware of what I am doing. They come in to poke at us, to treat us with contempt they are getting it back from me. I WILL fight fire with fire. I wont take their abuse or watch them lie about the left or my liberal friends and just bite my tongue. I have my reasons for being this way. Ones I have written about many times before and you have been around long enough to know what they are.
You arent going to change my mind so just annoying me about it isnt going to do you any good
Did you know that there is a High School Principal from the State of Kansas that misses the point just like you do?
But "kabniel" doesn't do that, and it's ignorant to suggest that he does! He doesn't call people he disagrees with 'stupid.' He calls people who are trolls, posting here to inflame the conversation and distract from the actual topic 'stupid.'
It has nothing to do with "kabniel" disagreeing with people, and then calling those he disagrees with 'stupid.' And it's stupid to think that he does that!
And, of course, "kabniel" is right - "MickD" doesn't get to tell anyone else how to interact with the trolls. And if you'll notice, we've seen a lot fewer of them recently, and that's a direct result of people who figure out that they shouldn't be interacting with the trolls as though they were trying to be part of a discussion, because they aren't!
And guess what, any Baggers who are visiting: Even though I think that your protests are misguided at best, and are destructive to the country, I would be just as horrified to see you shot down as I was to see them.
I've seen Coultergeist advocate the shooting of liberals enough to exempt her from that. A 25 caliber hole in her forehead would seem like poetic justice to me.
All of my friends who served in Vietnam, whether on the left or right, were equally appalled that American troops killed American citizens for expressing their rights under the First Amendment.
Coulter:-"And you know, those kids, the ones who started the Kent State riots was Bill Ayers' best friend and according to Ayers, homosexual lover. He ended up blowing himself up in that townhouse in Greenwich Village when they were trying to blow up army recruits -- a dance for army recruits and their dates. They were running through Kent State smashing jewelry store windows, burning the ROTC building to the ground, and when the firemen showed up, they threw rocks at the firemen, they slashed the fire trucks' hoses. This was really out of hand -- it wasn't some peace [unintelligible], you know, peace, love not war --
SUSSMAN: Right.
COULTER: -- rally, and also, according to the recent reporting by James Rosen, the National Guard may have been shot upon first. But the point is, these kids never realized that they couldn't go run around burn down a building and get anything from -- but praise from the mainstream media
And these are just a very few of her many samples. That woman disgusts me. As a personal note from every man I know to Ms Coulter: Give it up. They all see you as a woman desperately hanging on to youth. Besides the minute you open your loud mouth you are a total turn off.
EMPHASIS ADDED
"I was 11, and I'm betting that quite a lot of others my age also can trace their first political awakenings to the realization that there was somehting very very wrong with this picture."
Interesting that you say that you were 11 years old. I was twelve when President Kennedy was assinated. It is a young'uns time when their whole perception of saftey changes. We begin to realise that the world is a bit more complex than as children we knew. Our preceptions change.
We now have a place in history. I remember my Dad talking me when I was about seven.."well about twenty years ago". I thought the world didn't exist (as far as I was concerned) twenty years ago.
I had no idea what he was talking about.
We cannot reinvent what went before us - all we can hope to do, is by increments make it better.
There is a great song in Les Miserables "One More Day"
Why? Because whenever I call them out for something, they yell and scream over me when I am talking normally. Heck, can't even criticize them for ANYTHING.
Just like those three. You cannot criticize them regardless of what they say. It's always "Oh, I was joking" or "You took me out of context".
Heck, if one of these guys did turn up murdered, I wouldn't be surprised honestly. Why? Because go to some of those right wing sites. Look what they say. I've read some comments about how "Tame" those three have "become". And how they need to "start telling it as it is" or "get off the air willingly or else".
Of course I don't believe that any of those idiots would actually do anything. At least not yet. The people who bark the most are the ones you don't have to worry about, it's the silent ones.
OWS are not the terrorists, is the people who laught at people being pepper sprayed, the people who claim proudly "We've got the guns" and people who dream of the police going into protests guns blazing.
I think of the time I went to Epcot and a guest was having a problem with their ticket. The poor attendant got the brunt of his rude and vulgar language when it really wasn't the attendants fault, she was just following the rules dictated to her by her boss. I think of that analogy when I see the FOXPAC teabagger dittoheads say "Why aren't these 'fleabaggers' protesting Capital Hill" The answer is in that analogy... Because all the politicians are just doing what their paymasters tell them.
The (real) Boston Tea Party was an act of trespassing and property damage, in response to favoritism towards corporate greed. I understand that Coulter and her other propagandists get paid good money to push this Orwellian crap, but how does the typical Foxbot not see that the "evil" she's railing against here is on the same side as those mythical figures in tri-corner hats that they pretend to revere ?
I know, it was a rhetorical question, by now I know why the typical Foxbot doesn't understand sh*t, I've had enough conversations with them here.
They're the stoopidest 1% of the country.
God I hope so. The idea there might be stupider people out there is too depressing to contemplate
After three days, I never got an answer. I got "government control" and "global governance" and some other tinfoil hat stuff, but nothing solid.
I got called out for noting a cultists being a cultist.
But I did see, after he whined about being outnumbered, imagining himself to be a hard-lovin', hard-fightin cartoon character, and imagining he was winning arguments, he still never answered my question.
I wonder if he thinks it's a coincidence that Rick Perry compared himself to Galileo in that debate.
It may just be a little self-help pep talk, they've been trained by their propaganda masters ( and probably their coddling parents) to make everything better by telling themselves they're really special, even if they're not very successful.
But it's possible they actually believe themselves. A little scary, but that's another thing they've been trained to think, that if they're confident and repetitious enough, that's as good as being right.
While some of us carried the team by getting on base with boring singles and doubles( the way to win at softball), Shorty would swing for the fences every at-bat, almost without exception resulting in a fly-out.Once or twice a season, he'd get one by the outfielders, and relive it forever.
At the end of season pizza party, he'd estimate his batting average at somewhere around .850
A guy I didn't know in high school recently "friended" me on Facebook, and he's pretty consistent at posting these "anti-PC" memes that go around. Today, he wanted me to "like" his demand to return to the traditional "Merry Christmas" instead of the PC "happy Holidays".
Fvck off. If you want me to ignore things in emails or Facebook, please oversell ( It's the funniest/saddest/cutest/scariest thing ever in history), or challenge or dare me to like or re-post it.
On special speed ignore; the ones that dare me to share something along the lines of " beating up puppies is bad" or " do my real friends read all of my self-indulgent status updates?", with the frowny little closer of " If you don't, I'll understand.".
Nothing against those who still take the time to debunk his stuff, but I think Gally has that wingnut affliction that tells him that if his "information" is being noticed, even if it's being destroyed, he's being taken seriously.
He seems to get very irritated at those of us ( Me, Mary, various Delldollies) who just like to watch him dance around in his floppy clown shoes. Jazz Hands!!
Like others here, I got into lengthy discussions with gally in the past, until I realized he just ignored everything that proved him wrong, and just continued to go with his kitchen sink approach.
If you do come across old climate-related threads, notice the time-stamps. It's hilarious how consistently Gally creeps on to two or three day old threads to add sarcastic comments, questions and challenges. He's like a pseudo-intellectual donutlover.
That stuff was just brutal...
Wonder what makes them do this stuff? They should just show up early and get it all out.
That's good donuts puts extra salt on everything, he's probably losing a lot with all those tears.
A dangerously slippery slope to donut's point of view.
Any possible victorylike, or paravictory point is to be clutched at, groped, dominated, and violated.
A position very close to too many college football programs.
Being a gutless coward is just what I would expect from him
Also what he mostly posted were details, but he never really put those details together into a proper argument to prove his point. He may be good at finding his material, but he is bad (or perhaps he doesn't even try) at proving any point.
Now where is that "dave" misanthrope? You know, the eejit deluxe that thought seeing those UC Davis kids getting pepper-sprayed wss SO awesome.
She casually calls liberals demonic, compares OWS to SDS and the Weathermen, then ices the ugly cake by suggesting that murdering a few of them via police state fascism will make them go away.
Ann reminds why I'm liberal and proud of it. What a piece of reptilian filth.
Randy
Stop the presses indeed (sarcasm).
"Yes, yeah the FBI ought to be looking into me."
I'll go along with that, but only if they use a proctoscope made for an elephant.
Once again, Ann's putridity deserves a response using every possible combination of George Carlin's The Seven Words You Can't Say On TV.
At least she's consistent.
The shootings resulted in a national student strike, closing hundreds of campuses. Kent State was closed for six weeks. Five days after the shootings, a crowd estimated at 100,000 people gathered to protest in Washington, DC.
It wasn't the end of the protests. It was the beginning of the end of the war.
I bet they are stealing money from their masters and pretending to post when they don't so they get paid more. Their morals and ethics seem to be non-existent anyway.
And becoming a true Christian, Ann, means trying to act like one once in a while. I wonder about how you will be judged on your sincerity!
Ann, you are truly disgusting!
UGH!
No doubt she would have sided with the British over the so-called "Boston Massacre".
If you need firearms to maintain public order then you have a far more serious problem than public disorder - look to your society.
They only seem able to get on the right side of history once it's history.
I imagine in a decade or two they'll be bragging about their support of the Occupy movement.
Disraeli was an early proponent of "dynamic conservatism", an oxymoron in the true sense in that whilst seeming to be a contradiction in terms, upon closer examination it actually makes sense. This, of course, was a full century before Eisenhower adopted the philosophy.
At the moment the U.S. Republican party seems to be in the thrall of the Know Nothing element of its origins. This way lies disaster - both for the party and for the victims of its policies where enacted. There are two possible solutions for its survival 1) return to its Whiggish roots i.e. take on a more liberal caste or 2) take on the Eisenhower/Disraeli mantle of dynamic conservatism. Either would work and could enable them to at least re-enter the 20th Century and possibly make it into the 21st!
No. Like Coulter, The Fox Noise Collective is without conscience.
They exist to nurture, fortify, aid, abet and give comfort to creatures of Coulter's bent & ilk.
Fox viewers tune in everyday to suckle at the teats of The Fox Collective for the milk of the ignorant & the vile.
'Tis a poisonous venom that flows so very abundantly from the nipples of that vixen b!tch.
And they love every drop of it. They can't get enough of it.
The shootings were the tipping point that brought even more parents, grandparents and vets into the streets to demand an end to a war that is still dividing America. Even though most of the people who still defend it weren't alive at the time or didn't have family members who served there. Many also supported the war then and now, but found ways to evade it. Some being your comrades in the hate game like Rush, O'Lielly, Nugent and Gingrich and your despicable political heroes like GWB and Cheney.
This is what passes for "strength" and "rugged individualism" with the modern wingnut, applauding the beatdown of anybody who dares to stand up to the powerful. Again, I understand a whore like Coulter saying idiotic things for a big paycheck, I just don't understand the person who isn't on the payroll who admires a piece of crap like her.
What they admire, Andy, is the snarkiness and nastiness that reminds them of the Queen Bees they all slavered over in high school and never could quite get to notice them.
The only safe defense from the sight of Ann Coulter's unprotected shoulder blades is a wielder's helmet with the super dark lenses. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to protest wearing wielding equipment all of the time?
And she's living proof of that. What a truly horrible, awful, disgusting person she is.
Well, here I go again. Ann Coulter has said something so asinine, ignorant and disgusting that people will finally stop listening to her. At least, they should.
God hates you, Ann. You know that, right?
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