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Creeping Halal Outrage: Pam Geller Style

November 30, 2011 4:43 pm ET by Solange Uwimana

Why is anti-Muslim activist Pam Geller suddenly raging against halal meat when just a year ago, she had no problem with it?

The week of Thanksgiving, Geller went on a rampage against halal turkeys in an effort to expose what she called the "meat industry's halal scandal: its established practice of not separating halal meat from non-halal meat, and not labeling halal meat as such." She went on to warn Americans about the "march" of "Islamic supremacism" and called for a boycott of Butterball for supposedly selling "stealth halal turkeys."

Geller wrote:

In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a torturous method: Islamic slaughter.

Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out while saying "Bismillah allahu akbar" -- in the name of Allah the greatest.

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Across this great country, on Thanksgiving tables nationwide, infidel Americans are unwittingly going to be serving halal turkeys to their families this Thursday. Turkeys that are halal certified -- who wants that, especially on a day on which we are giving thanks to G-d for our freedom? I wouldn't knowingly buy a halal turkey -- would you? Halal turkey, slaughtered according to the rules of Islamic law, is just the opposite of what Thanksgiving represents: freedom and inclusiveness, neither of which are allowed for under that same Islamic law.

Ruth Nasrullah at the Houston Chronicle sets the record straight, pointing out that the practice of halal is neither shocking nor outrageous. In fact, she writes, Geller "seems unaware of how similar kosher, the traditional Jewish way of preparing food, is to halal." Indeed, as Jeffrey Goldberg noted at The Atlantic:

The method used to kill a bird according to halal requirements is also the method used to slaughter a bird according to the dictates of kashrut, or the kosher laws. Geller's statement that "Jews are less likely to be exposed to such meat because they eat kosher" has to count as one of the most ridiculous things she has ever said. Jews who observe kashrut are eating birds whose tracheas have been cut. It's as simple as that. Her desire to blame Islam for anything and everything she dislikes blinds her to the contradictions, fallacies and lies built into her arguments.

Nasrullah also wrote:

The halal certification that prompted her rant may not actually reflect Islamically correct slaughter. I confirmed with a Butterball consumer affairs representative (as did one of Geller's readers) that their "whole turkeys are halal." I pursued the issue by asking if that meant their turkeys are slaughtered individually following Islamic guidelines, beginning with saying Bismillah (in the name of Allah) over them.

I have not been able to get a response to this question, despite trying throughout this afternoon and evening through Butterball's consumer affairs department and media relations representatives.

I would love to be told that mass-produced poultry are slaughtered humanely, but I find it impossible to believe. Meat production is about making money, and doing individual slaughtering with care and attention, as Islamic law requires, is not the way to minimize costs.

Geller's outrage seems especially curious considering that in October 2010, she stated: "I'm not against halal food any more than I'm against kosher food." She was discussing her boycott of the Campbell Soup Co. for rolling out a line of halal soups in Canada certified by the Islamic Society of North America. The Washington Post reported at the time:

Blogger Pamela Geller began calling for a boycott earlier this month via her widely read site, Atlas Shrugs. Other bloggers soon joined in.

The halal soups, designated with a special label, are available only in Canada. The company has no plans to offer a similar line in the United States, said John Faulkner, a company spokesman.

In an interview, Geller, who was instrumental in whipping up opposition to an Islamic community center and mosque in Lower Manhattan, said she has no objection to the halal certification itself. Rather, she said, she opposes Campbell's decision to have its Canadian products certified by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an organization that government prosecutors alleged had ties to the terrorist group Hamas in a 2007 conspiracy case.

"No one is suggesting they refrain from this line," Geller said. "No one is suggesting they not have halal food. I'm not against halal food any more than I'm against kosher food. My issue is who's doing the certifying."

So what changed in a year?

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    • Author by terrapin53 (November 30, 2011 5:00 pm ET)
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      So what changed in a year?

      Gotta have something to bytch about
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      • Author by crazymonkeylady (December 01, 2011 1:25 am ET)
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        What happened in a year? People were ignoring the shrill rantings of a media whore. And she just won't be Ignored. What a Bee-yotch.
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      • Author by carnholio (December 01, 2011 8:14 am ET)
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        Off her meds, perhaps?
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    • Author by TexasWanderer (November 30, 2011 5:23 pm ET)
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      I was wondering if something was different about the turkey this year. For some reason I had an overwhelming urge to face Mecca and pray after Thanksgiving.

      I'm not sure what her rant is about - does she think Americans are going to be stealth-converted to Islam by eating a halal turkey? Does that mean I'm going to become Jewish if I eat a Hebrew National hotdog?

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      • Author by David2012 (November 30, 2011 5:37 pm ET)
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        I know what you mean. After Thanksgiving dinner, I just kept repeating "Allahu Akhbar" over and over. Now I realize what was happening to me. Maybe I should turn myself in.
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    • Author by teh.stoopid.lib (November 30, 2011 6:02 pm ET)
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      The halal soups, designated with a special label, are available only in Canada. The company has no plans to offer a similar line in the United States

      Sad and more than a little embarrassing. My bet is that Campbell Soup knows that there are a lot of Americans that can't be anything other than childish when it comes to anything even remotely Muslim-ish and the consumer poutrage would be more hassle than they want to deal with.
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    • Author by tbone (November 30, 2011 6:19 pm ET)
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      In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a torturous method: Islamic slaughter.

      Cause God knows if I don't get my PETA "humanely killed" approved turkey from a Christian American corporation, I'm surrendering my freedom to Obama's corp of Muslim oppressors.

      Unhinged doesn't even come close for this shrew.

      I worked in a produce store years ago - slicing the neck is how it was done. Call me after you've been to the kill floor at a commercial packing plant Pammy but take care, I'm afraid you'll get the vapors.

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    • Author by heehee..santorum (November 30, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
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      I wonder if it would be considered cannibalism if Pam was 'prepared' halal style and sent to some starving Muslims in Somalia? I suppose they would prefer dirt-cookies to her though, how would you ever get that taste out of your mouth?
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    • Author by WilliamP (November 30, 2011 7:06 pm ET)
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      Pam, like most conservative pundits probably failed logic in college (if she even attended college). Eating Halal food is necessary for practicing Muslims, but eating Halal food isn't sufficient to make you a Muslim.

      So, what's the problem? Is Halal turkey magical? What does it do to you? Why bother complaining?
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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (November 30, 2011 7:19 pm ET)
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      When I was in Kuwait en route to Iraq at the start of 2005, guys from my unit and I were at a rifle range.

      Our bus broke down as we were getting ready to leave.

      We ate MREs and drank water while we waited for a mechanic.

      Noticing that our driver, a Muslim had nothing to eat, we offered him an MRE. He declined until I showed him that the one we had set aside for him was marked with the "circle K" for "kosher."

      At that point, the driver accepted the meal and ate it gladly. He was happy to accept the meal because Jewish kosher equates, more or less, to Muslim halal -- animal slaughtered facing the right direction (towards Mecca or Jerusalem), blessed by a cleric, etc.

      The point of my story is that if a Muslim bus driver in Kuwait is broad minded enough to eat a kosher meal and feel secure that he's not violating his faith, idiots like Pam Geller ought to be capable of expressing similar understanding.
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      • Author by dhertzfe (November 30, 2011 10:00 pm ET)
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        You see, the key phrase you used bu failed to realize that she or anyone like can do, "... capable of expressing similar understanding." It's either Christian or NOT. Period.
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        • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (November 30, 2011 10:57 pm ET)
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          People like Geller are the ones who define "Christian" as "people who go to MY church."
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          • Author by raddave43 (November 30, 2011 11:32 pm ET)
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            Since Geller claims to be Jewish, I doubt she considers anyone going to her church as a Christian.
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            • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (December 01, 2011 12:15 am ET)
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              Which is why I said "people like Geller..." LIKE. As in "such as..."

              Ideologues are all the same, whatever the ideology. They think they and their followers are the "true believers" and everyone else is insufficiently pure to be part of the group.
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    • Author by Egbert Souse (November 30, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
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      But who speaks for the turkeys, Pam?
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    • Author by grmce (November 30, 2011 10:08 pm ET)
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      I get a distinct feeling that Ms Geller is one of those opportunist bigots as opposed to "conviction" bigots who actually believe their rubbish. Her hysterical outrage at inconsistent issues that she has confected smacks more of rank hypocrisy and attention seeking than actual belief.

      She is a nasty little humbug who seeks to profit from the ignorance and fear that she foments and should be treated as such in any reporting of her antics.
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    • Author by Quiet Tom (November 30, 2011 11:45 pm ET)
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      An Ugly American should not be telling Canada how to label its turkeys.
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    • Author by Quiet Tom (December 01, 2011 12:11 am ET)
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      An Ugly American should not be telling Canada how to label its turkeys.
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    • Author by Quiet Tom (December 01, 2011 12:11 am ET)
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      An Ugly American should not be telling Canada how to label its turkeys.
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    • Author by villabolo (December 01, 2011 1:38 am ET)
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      Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble! You're fvck!ng insane!

      Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble! Get a life!

      Gobble, gobble, gobble, gobble! Move to Adromeda! If you know what and where that is.
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    • Author by villabolo (December 01, 2011 2:00 am ET)
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      "In a little-known strike against freedom, yet again, we are being forced into consuming meat slaughtered by means of a torturous method: Islamic slaughter.

      Halal slaughter involves cutting the trachea, the esophagus, and the jugular vein, and letting the blood drain out . . ."


      Of course, Imbecilitas, they copied that slaughtering technique from Judaism. The purpose of that method was to let out the last drop of blood because the Hebrews were not allowed to eat the blood of the animal.

      “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it. And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being."

      Genesis 9:4,5 - New International Version

      These people are genocidal barbarians are just a bare thread away from unraveling. There is no abomination that these psychotic/psychopathic monstrosities are incapable of performing.
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      • Author by Johaely (December 01, 2011 8:21 am ET)
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        So interested that a jewish woman like her does not know one of the key stones of her own religion.
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    • Author by Bob Stanley (December 01, 2011 5:34 am ET)
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      This reminds me of when Debbie Schlussel was complaining about the horrors of Tinkerbelle being dressed like a boy on the cover of Disney movie. Debbie didn't bother to find out that Tinkerbelle was in a disguise as part of the plot.
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      • Author by Egbert Souse (December 01, 2011 8:12 am ET)
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        Debbie and Pammy start the day by gobbling (no pun intended) the same brand of crazy pill. Click here. One hopes that the pill doesn't go generic, although Tea Baggers are lobbying hard for it to be covered by Medicare.
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    • Author by Reinhard (December 01, 2011 9:36 am ET)
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      Having been on a turkey farm and actually seeing how turkeys are slaughtered the only difference between a halal turkey and a "non-halal" turkey is the fact that during the slaughter a Muslim phrase is uttered. Other than that the procedure is the same...cut it's throat and bleed it out.

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    • Author by newzhound (December 01, 2011 11:03 am ET)
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      Just wait until she hears that the US Postal Service is issuing an EID stamp.

      And has been since 2001...
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 01, 2011 12:18 pm ET)
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      YTF should I care about this?

      It's just like "Kosher."

      Who cares? (Except for Muslims or Jews.) There is nothing in my [lack of] religion (or in any brach of Christianity) that forbids me from eating this stuff, nor is it harmful. To everyione lese? It's just a god-damned TURKEY! This just MAKES GOOD BUSINESS SENSE. If they have a surplus of Halal (or Kosker) Product, why the hell should they just let it rot when, to any sane person, there's simply no difference?

      This is idiotic. Geller's boggotry is crowding out common sense. (And no, that doesn't surprise me.) First ammendment, sweetie. You might try READING it, you un-American bed-wetter!

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      UTOPIA
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