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Fox Graphics Department's Failure Hat Trick (Obamney Edition)

December 14, 2011 1:42 pm ET by Terry Krepel

The Fox News graphics department is having a very bad week.

On Monday, it displayed a chart showing unemployment during the Obama administration that portrayed the 8.6 percent rate in November higher than the 8.8 percent rate in March.

On Tuesday, in a pair of graphics, Fox News misidentified Utah as Nevada and Vermont as New Hampshire.

Now, on today's edition of America Live, a graphic showing poll results for Republican presidential candidates included a picture of President Obama over Mitt Romney's name:

obamney

Here's the video clip:

There's a couple seconds of dead air and blank screen, but it's unclear whether Fox News recognized the error and quickly pulled down the graphic or if it was a transmission problem due to Megyn Kelly hosting the show from Sioux City, Iowa, where she will take part in tomorrow night's Fox News Republican presidential debate.

UPDATE: Later in the show, Kelly apologized for the error and displayed a graphic correctly displaying a picture of Romney.

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    • Author by beDecent (December 14, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
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      Are they trying a little psych experiment where viewers will begin to see Romney and Obama as one and the same? Hey, if it gets the crazier candidates elected to run against Obama, that's fine.
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      • Author by Chameo (December 14, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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        And to associate Obama with 17% against Gingrich's higher results. I'm not holding my breath about the country's self-preservation these days, though. Look at what so many of the voters elected to govern their states in 2010.
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        • Author by beDecent (December 14, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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          You'd think that would lead to vote apathy if they think Gingrich already leads Obama by that much.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 14, 2011 2:11 pm ET)
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            You're discounting the Groupthink effect on right wingers. This is the audience that responds to Fox BS being pointed out by squawking about their ratings.
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            • Author by beDecent (December 14, 2011 2:55 pm ET)
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              Andy has a fan I see!
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 14, 2011 3:08 pm ET)
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                Har! Yeah, somebody seems to has a sad over me. bintx gets those too, and a few others here. Must be doing something right.
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                • Author by pete x tp (December 14, 2011 4:22 pm ET)
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                  Scorn from liars and fools is the highest praise.
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                  • Author by grmce (December 14, 2011 6:31 pm ET)
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                    In addition to their positive qualities I often measure the worth of a person by the lack of worth of their enemies.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 15, 2011 2:13 am ET)
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                Hey, you have a fan, too, beDecent! And I got another.
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                • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 4:28 am ET)
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                  You will never beat my record. Eight I tell ya eight!! All I said was Charles Krauthammer had a history of using poor judgement or something like that. Is that so bad or so wrong? (maybe if it was anyone but CK) The trick is, Andy, pick on someone in a wheel chair. Now watch me beat my last record.
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                  • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 9:47 am ET)
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                    Eight? That's nothing. I've gotten eight thumbs down [or double that number] in a matter of minutes for disagreeing with the crowd here. Ha!

                    On the flip side I once got something like 28 thumbs up and one thumb down. Now I don't usually pay all that much attention to the thumbs, but I did find that a tad vexing ;-)

                    But whenever I have a ton of up thumbs & one lonely downer, I always figure it's my arch-enemy....the Pasta Lady aka DellDollySue ;-)
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                    • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 10:29 am ET)
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                      Hi, is that you Susie, Susie from MA? She recently informed us SusieMa is you or is Juliajayne we weren't sure about her accusation on that one and she never explained it.

                      I think it is strange that I can be pretty rude to a troll and never get a thumbs down, but if I disagree with or question a certain group of regular non troll posters on here, I will get 1-3 thumbs down on every post, on every thread, regardless what I post for a month or so. Pretty petty if you ask me. And there are those that get thumbs up and praise even when they are dead wrong, because they are liked.

                      Nice to see you posting, Jeter.
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                      • Author by bintx (December 15, 2011 10:55 am ET)
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                        DD said that jeter2 was Susie or juliajayne? Please!
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                        • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 11:03 am ET)
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                          I know. The lady [and I use that term loosely] is nuts.

                          She thinks everyone has a sockpuppet....maybe she's projecting?

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                      • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 10:59 am ET)
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                        Well I don't know who SusieMa is so I know for sure she ain't me. And I doubt it's Miz Julia. Maybe she thinks Miz Julia & I are the same person?!? Ha! Ah who knows what goes on in that paranoid mass in DellDollySue's skull otherwise known as a brain. At least she isn't accusing me/us of being Tommy/RightOn/James B. ;-) Gotta link to that thread? No biggie, but I'd read it for laughs later if you do.

                        I don't know why you get thumbs down for what seems like odd reasons but I think the thumbs are a tad silly. I rarely use them, up or down. Now if they gave us the option of flipping someone the bird....hehehe ;-)
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                        • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 12:06 pm ET)
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                          Okay, I've spent way to much time on this. LoL! I'm far from home and had to get off the Hotel puter, go to my room, use my Laptop to use my Windows Remote Desktop/Windows XP Pro, so I could access my home puter, so now I am actually working from my home computer, just like it is in front of me. Pretty cool, eh?

                          Maybe you can make sense of her statement.
                          If you missed this, it's DD odd explanation for changing her name. Doesn't explain setting up a whole new account. Sorry you have to scan the whole threads. Now I'm off to dinner and nice evening, in the rain. You have a great day.
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                          • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 2:50 pm ET)
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                            Good grief. Ok, I was amused, but also confused ;-)

                            I'm gonna try to keep this fairly short, cause Joni/DellDolly's accusation was so stupid & made nada sense & we don't need to re-open another long discussion about it... Don't know how she got Susie from JuliaJayne. Very weird. And MA probably does mean Massachusetts, but seriously am I the only poster here from that state? ::eye roll:: And what the fvck do the Red Sox have to do with any of it? Jeter plays for the Yankees....I guess Joni doesn't know too much about baseball, eh? Ha!

                            And that post by SusieMA hardly sounded exclusively like me or Miz Julia...anyone could have written it. Probably the real SusieMa did. Actually it sounded more like something JoniDellDolly might write. Mmmmmm.....maybe Susie is her sockpuppet? Hehehe.

                            You know Joni/DD is a tad demented but she sounded positively nutso here. And the fact that she didn't return & post anything to back up her accusation [though I'm sure she came back read everything you all wrote] is proof she was just talking out of her asss.

                            Anyway, thanks for the link :-)
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                            • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 7:25 pm ET)
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                              You don't know how relieved I was to learn her post didn't make sense to any of them either. LOL! Because we know she is intelligent. But she has these bizarre moments. I've said many times that I enjoy, even appreciate, her non bossy posts. I credit her with contributing more than I do here. I find "her obsession with trolls and staying "on topic" almost fascinating. WTH, is it so important to her?

                              What is an intelligent person working for a Company that pries into her personal life like that? A company that made her reveal the moniker she uses on blogs? Why didn't Dolly simply change her name instead of setting up a whole new account? All that is such BS too. It was her pathetic attempt at letting Eddie know why DD wouldn't be posting on MMFA anymore. He even assumed that she would keep the Dolly part.

                              My whole point is if she doesn't want to be accused of being a sockpuppet, she shouldn't be so quick to accuse so many others of being one. Jeter, You and I know how very wrong someone can be about that. It can be hurtful and frustrating to the person being accused when they have no way of proving they aren't someone. Joni, is the only poster I have accused of being a sockpuppet and not until there was over whelming evidence. Some of that evidence is the very same she uses in "confirming" certain posters are one and the same.
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                              • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 10:18 pm ET)
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                                You know even I'll admit Joni aka Dell can be an intelligent poster. But that often gets overlooked because of those "bizarre moments".

                                I did check out the other link you left & that thread was even crazier to follow than the one about SusieMa. Ha!

                                Jonimacaroni has been around this site since it began. She started as "Sue". And at least a dozen reincarnations have followed. She never changes her writing style or her lecturing about trolls, so it's always easy to spot her ;-)

                                And yeah I recall when someone once questioned whether you & I were the same person. That was frustrating, but I knew where that was coming from & why, so even though I was a tad irked at first, I understood. I'm just sorry you got dragged into it. But it can be frustrating when anyone accuses you of being or having a sockpuppet.

                                Joni is probably correct about James B. being RightOn/Tommy. But like you & Cat have said here, who really cares? I always liked Tommy, he was a bud. So if James B is him, then I'm more than ok with that.

                                Well it's bedtime for me. Goodnight Robyn :-)
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                      • Author by The_Cat (December 15, 2011 9:06 pm ET)
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                        Don't mean to butt in, but when it comes to trolls and sock puppets what's in a name? If there is something in the content of a post that requires a reply from me, I post one. And just leave it at that.

                        >^o.-^<
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                        • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 9:16 pm ET)
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                          OMG, I can't believe you posted that. I almost added the same thing to my long post. What difference does it make what they call themselves, or how many of them there are?
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                    • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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                      LOL, looks like he/she found you.
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                      • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 11:04 am ET)
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                        Yup. She always finds me.

                        I think she has a crush on me. Or would like to crush me ;-)
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                    • Author by bintx (December 15, 2011 10:54 am ET)
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                      LOL! You know that DellDolly is now "jonimacaroni," right? She tried to hide her true identity for the longest, but she just couldn't resist giving us the "troll" scold.

                      I think the thumbs down are REALLY funny. They're supposed to make the recipient feel rejected . . . I don't really care what they think.

                      That's why my avatar has the Dr. Seuss saying:

                      "Be who you are and mean what you say because those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter."
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                    • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 15, 2011 12:23 pm ET)
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                      Eight? That's nothing. I've gotten eight thumbs down...


                      Jeez, I can't believe you need this explained, Jeter. We "libbies" wear the thumbs down as a badge of honor because we get them from wingnuts for being right.

                      You wingnuts get them for being wrong.

                      This isn't rocket science.
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                      • Author by heehee..santorum (December 15, 2011 12:42 pm ET)
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                        I get them for being a moronic agitator, but humiliation is in the same family as humility, so I am just going to roll with it.
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                      • Author by jeter2 (December 15, 2011 3:11 pm ET)
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                        Yeah Andy, Moonbats are always right, Wingnuts are always wrong. If that makes ya feel all warm & cozy, go with it ;-)

                        OR

                        I sometimes get thumbs down from the Liberals cause I'm right & they can't deal with it. Ha! Ok, sometimes I deserve a down thumb. No biggie, I admit I'm wrong & move on.

                        If I could give your post the finger, I would. Hehehe!
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                        • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 16, 2011 12:27 am ET)
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                          Did I forget to add the winky face?
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                          • Author by jeter2 (December 16, 2011 9:14 am ET)
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                            Andy, I knew your post was tongue & cheek as was my reply...I even added all my bells & whistles. The Ha! The Hehehe. The winky face.

                            But I'd still give your post the finger if MMFA offered the option. Har!
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                      • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 6:55 pm ET)
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                        "This isn't rocket science, doofus!" Fixed.
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        • Author by chazmanr (December 14, 2011 5:06 pm ET)
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          Blame that on lazy Democrats. If you don't vote, you can't complain. I am not insinuating that you didn't vote, but many stayed home in 2010 (as voters of the majority party tend to do in swing elections).
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      • Author by J Swift (December 14, 2011 4:19 pm ET)
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        I keep hoping there's a mole in Fox's graphics department deliberately playing with the graphics. And that one day there will be a picture of a fig newton over Gingrich's name. OR perhaps the bottom end of a monkey climbing a pole.
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        • Author by Chameo (December 14, 2011 8:47 pm ET)
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          I've thought that myself, but I'm afraid it's just wishful thinking on my part.
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      • Author by angels4light (December 14, 2011 5:34 pm ET)
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        That was my first thought, actually, that they were equating Mitt Romney and President Obama.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (December 14, 2011 6:20 pm ET)
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          The thing that gets me is how often the graphical errors occur in the favor of the Fox news narrative. I know the one yesterday with the states names being messed up doesn't seem to follow the pattern, but it's possible that one was just an honest goof.

          As for this one:

          It's just too convenient not to suspect a bit of mischief. Of all people, it's the top contender, the guy that Fox news seems to like the least...the guy who just had an attack video released where he claims he is a progressive. That is the guy who gets the Obama picture over his face. Not a picture of Ronald Reagan, not a picture of Tim Tebow or Michael Strahan, not a picture of Angelina Jolie. No, it is specifically Mitt Romney's picture being replaced specifically by Barack Obama.

          What are the odds?
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          • Author by Unreality (December 15, 2011 2:54 am ET)
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            I'd welcome a FauxNoise fan explaining how the production department could have made such an... ah..error.

            It's not as though Obama is a Republican and would be part of the set of images pulled for the graphic. Nor could they claim the graphic artist didn't know who he was. Nor was there any production comparison between Obama and the other contenders.

            I could guess there's some guy in the graphics dept who produced it for his own pleasure, saved a version to print and stick on the wall for his own jollies, and by some strange coincidence while he was out of the room at the printer the boss grabbed the file and put it on the production server for air.

            Yeah, that's what happened.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (December 15, 2011 10:22 am ET)
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              I could guess there's some guy in the graphics dept who produced it for his own pleasure, saved a version to print and stick on the wall for his own jollies, and by some strange coincidence while he was out of the room at the printer the boss grabbed the file and put it on the production server for air.


              That's the most reasonable excuse. Or similarly, the graphic artist created that version to get a laugh from the hosts and producers, but because of the fast paced nature of television news, he forgot to swap it back with the correct graphic.
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          • Author by manndan (December 15, 2011 7:46 am ET)
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            In Obama's place they insert a picture of Satan.
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    • Author by Imbecile (December 14, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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      If I were a halfway-intelligent, loyal Fox viewer, I'd by insulted by these types of "mistakes."

      But we all know they aren't actually mistakes, because, as has been pointed out numerous times, these "mistakes" always paint Republicans in a positive light, or paint Democrats in a negative light. Always.

      My question is this: in their guise to deliberately misinform their viewers, why are they also intent on making their viewers look like idiots when they are publicly embarrassed for parroting an erroneous Fox "fact", such as Egypt being located between Jordan and Iran, or Mark Sanford being a Democrat?

      Do they ever worry that this tactic will eventually backfire on them?
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (December 14, 2011 2:13 pm ET)
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        If I were a halfway-intelligent, loyal Fox viewer...


        If I were a unicorn, I'd poop rainbows.
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      • Author by DennisKQV (December 14, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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        I'll agree that the unemployment graphic was probably intentional.

        But, what advantage could Fox expect to obtain by mis-labeling a state or putting Obama's picture where Romney's belongs? How did those mistakes put Democrats in a negative light?

        I think those maps and pictures are just pure carelessness.
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        • Author by Liberal in the South (December 14, 2011 3:51 pm ET)
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          Fox Viewers aren't super smart so they'd probably process faster looking at Pictures, Most likely didn't even read the names. I bet 50% of viewers thought that they were saying Fig Newton was Leading over Obama. some viewers, like my grandmother, probably have it on mute. Others are too busy building a cross to burn on someone's lawn
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          • Author by DennisKQV (December 15, 2011 11:19 am ET)
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            OK on the Obama/Romney - I guess I just don't think that deviously.

            How about mislabeling Utah?

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            • Author by congero6189599 (December 15, 2011 11:39 am ET)
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              How about mislabeling Utah?---DKQV

              Just more of their sloppiness, and not caring about their audiences knowledge of the facts. They are out to preach to the choir they know their audience will forgive them as long as they feed them what they want to hear,facts be darned.
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              • Author by open_mind (December 15, 2011 4:25 pm ET)
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                I think that backs up Dennis' point on the one item regarding the maps. I agree with him about that as well. I don't think that could be politically motivated. If it is, I cannot see how it would benefit a Fox "News" favored entity. I think interchanging Obama and Romney was likely intentional for some of the reasons brought up. If it was indeed intentional, then Fox definitely is pulling for Gingrich as he seems to be the main beneficiary of the "accident" IMO.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (December 15, 2011 4:42 pm ET)
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                  I was only speaking to his question which is why I pasted it.


                  "...or putting Obama's picture where Romney's belongs? How did those mistakes put Democrats in a negative light?"...------D

                  The question isn't one of putting Democrats in a negative light as much as it is putting Romney in one. Drawing no distinction between the hated socialist apologizing for America who must at all costs be driven from office with Romney. Not even too subliminal.Faux is trying to pick a winner and while things may change I submit to you the interview Mitt Romney received from Mr.Biar and the gloating hour long love fest interview Gingrich received from Hannity. By the way which news station makes these many mistakes and seemingly makes no efforts to correct or stop them from taking place? You would think journalistic integrity at some point would come into play. they should be embarassed.




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        • Author by johnsta (December 14, 2011 5:05 pm ET)
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          Yes, I do believe this was also intentional.

          Fox is on in many restaurants and bars across the nation, someone just glancing at that graphic would surmise that Newt is leading Obama in the Race now.

          I mean how do you possibly 'accidently' pull an Obama picture when trying to make a graphic, the person that made it was either incredibly inept at basic computer usage - or this graphic done on purpose.

          It's just like with Hannity mixing up the Tea Party crowd footage. The way video is time coded and stored it is absolutely impossible that was just a simple mix up. It was a planned thing.
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        • Author by chazmanr (December 14, 2011 5:10 pm ET)
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          MMFA is not indicating that the states graphic was intentional. They are indicating that Fox has stated that they have a zero-tolerance policy for these types of "errors". Do they hire a new incompetent graphics editor every week? For a company that has a zero-tolerance policy on these errors, they seem to make the errors A LOT! It is just further evidence that reporting accurate information is not part of the Fox mission statement.
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          • Author by danielsangeo (December 14, 2011 7:36 pm ET)
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            I used to work for a financial printing company, processing quarterly statements to the SEC and such. There was a team dedicated to proofreading everything. Where is the proofreading team at Fox, righties?
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            • Author by Boswell (December 14, 2011 11:26 pm ET)
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              same mythical place their fact-checkers are? out with the unicorns and leprechauns
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        • Author by WilliamP (December 14, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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          No, they might have something to gain here because viewers who aren't paying a lot of attention could see the picture of Gingrich in front of Obama and believe that Fox is reporting that Gingrich is polling better than Obama. Most of their "mistakes" seem likely to mislead viewers who are just casually watching and not paying attention to what is written on screen or what is being said.
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          • Author by Chameo (December 14, 2011 8:49 pm ET)
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            And we have at least one loyal Fox viewer here who is insisting that Gingrich leads Obama in the polls.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (December 15, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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          But, what advantage could Fox expect to obtain by mis-labeling a state or putting Obama's picture where Romney's belongs? How did those mistakes put Democrats in a negative light?


          It's not a black and white, republican positive automatically means democratic negative in this case.

          Instead, you could argue this is more of that Fox news election engineering. Their loyal viewers have been trained to revile and shrink back from President Obama like a vampire from sunlight. They use this opportunity to equate the slightly less overtly radical conservative Romney with the President in the minds of their viewers who may be voting for a candidate in the near future.
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        • Author by bintx (December 15, 2011 10:57 am ET)
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          Subliminally, people will associate Romney with Obama and vice versa. Fox wants Newt to be the nominee. Pretty simple.

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      • Author by grmce (December 14, 2011 7:08 pm ET)
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        Do they ever worry that this tactic will eventually backfire on them?
        It should be noted that there is a fairly significant element of nihilists and other assorted ratbags in the graphics and headline composing depts of media outlets.

        On the up side for the organisation they have no compunction when it comes to devising dishonest graphics/headlines but on the down side for them these employees also have been known to amuse themselves with certain glitches or "unfortunate" choices of word.

        I have seen newspapers go through periods when there seems to be a contest devising excruciating puns in their headlines. I have also seen choices of pictures that belie the editorial stance of the publication..

        One thing I learnt as a performer is to never annoy the lighting and sound people and always keep them interested in what's going on. I've seen some "great" pranks perpetrated by disengaged tech crew - the ones behind the scenes who make everything happen. How many of the production staff at FNC are fed up by the arrogance and narcissism of certain on camera "personalities".
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        • Author by Unreality (December 15, 2011 3:00 am ET)
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          Hey, lighten up on the crew! A long time ago I was one of those lighting guys when I was in college. Paid good money and I got to see some great live acts like BB King, Jefferson Airplane, Greatful Dead etc.

          We should be so lucky there are people in FNC production department who can sabotage the disinformation network.
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      • Author by cripto9t709 (December 15, 2011 7:10 am ET)
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        "My question is this: in their guise to deliberately misinform their viewers, why are they also intent on making their viewers look like idiots when they are publicly embarrassed for parroting an erroneous Fox "fact", such as Egypt being located between Jordan and Iran, or Mark Sanford being a Democrat?

        Do they ever worry that this tactic will eventually backfire on them?
        "

        No, because they know their viewers are idiots. Yesterday, a guy swore up and down to me that there was absolutely nothing wrong with that unemployment graph. Tried to school me on "increments".

        Fox has nothing to worry about.
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      • Author by politeradical (December 15, 2011 2:50 pm ET)
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        They have a secret arrangement with The Daily Show.

        Fox News gets paid for having "oopsie" moments allowing TDS to fire their writing staff as the jokes now write themselves.

        We're onto you Stewart...
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    • Author by kamrom (December 14, 2011 3:16 pm ET)
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      I cant watch. I dont know if anyone else has this problem, but when I know that sheer humiliation is approaching something, I can never bring myself to watch. I just...Cant. Since my childhood ive been this way. I dont watch certain movies, fictional movies, due to this.

      Im just too nice of a person to watch people get humiliated by their own failure. I can read about it fine but watching it..? Nope. Just can not do it.

      Which is a shame it sounds really funny.
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      • Author by Liberal in the South (December 14, 2011 3:51 pm ET)
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        I love it, that's why Curb your Enthusiasm is my favorite show :)
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        • Author by Boswell (December 14, 2011 7:08 pm ET)
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          I do watch that on occasion but I am also the kind who winces when someone embarrasses themselves which is why I never willingly watch an Adam Sandler movie/TV show. He embarrasses the whole human race...
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          • Author by epkklk851 (December 15, 2011 8:53 am ET)
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            I agree with your assessment of Adam Sandler movies, but he seems to be a decent human being off camera. He practices his religion and he loves his kids.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (December 15, 2011 10:37 am ET)
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              The Adam Sandler film rule:

              If you are a 12-17 year old male, you will probably enjoy most of his films.

              If you are an adult of either gender, avoid all of his comedies, or any film he had any creative input on. Pretty much stick to "Spanglish" and skip the rest.

              I liked some of his skits from the old Saturday Night Live days, but his movies...ugh!
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              • Author by epkklk851 (December 15, 2011 11:11 am ET)
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                I also liked "Spanglish", in fact, I was going to mention it in my post but changed my mind at the last minute. I didn't pay to see it, I was trapped on an international flight, but it wasn't bad.....I was surprised, I usually couldn't make it past a commercial for one of his films.
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              • Author by danielsangeo (December 15, 2011 11:34 am ET)
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                I liked Happy Gilmore...but that's about it.
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              • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 15, 2011 12:47 pm ET)
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                If you are an adult of either gender, avoid all of his comedies, or any film he had any creative input on. Pretty much stick to "Spanglish" and skip the rest.
                I dunno - Punch Drunk Love was pretty good...
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                • Author by epkklk851 (December 15, 2011 3:12 pm ET)
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                  It's another film that he acted in, but did not produce or write. Like many comedians, he has the ability for drama if given the chance. I much prefer Robin Williams in a drama to his comedies, but I love his stand-up.
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            • Author by Boswell (December 15, 2011 11:38 am ET)
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              of course I was not commenting on him in his private life, just that his "talent" is basically a scrunched-up face and a whiney voice. his religion is OK with me and I am glad he treats his kids well.
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      • Author by grmce (December 14, 2011 7:11 pm ET)
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        I know how you feel kammers, I've seen humiliation through embarrassment used as a method of bullying far too often - particularly in schools.
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    • Author by hoopvillain (December 14, 2011 3:28 pm ET)
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      That was no accident; they do not want Mitt Romney to be the nominee. They are hoping that people will equate Romney with Obama. Or, the people are just incredibly stupid and incompetent or both.
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    • Author by Liberal in the South (December 14, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
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      By the way. Love REAL CLEAR POLITICS at the Bottom. Yup Clear as mud alright
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    • Author by o rly (December 14, 2011 4:15 pm ET)
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      No f'ing way! This is the absurdest thing I've seen yet. lol
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    • Author by 17andLiberal (December 14, 2011 4:23 pm ET)
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      How on earth could that possibly be accidental? I could understand mixing up two of the generic GOP candidates, but come on...Romney and Obama?
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    • Author by pete x tp (December 14, 2011 4:27 pm ET)
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      When looking at the big picture of FAUX"News' mistakes" one is led to wonder if FAUX"News" wants Obama to win a second term. As long as there's a black guy in the White House it's good for ratings. Any sane appraisal would conclude that Mittens is the only one of the bunch who has a snowball's chance in the general election so, logically, FAUX"News" has the most to gain from one of the completely insane ones winning the nomination.
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      • Author by chazmanr (December 14, 2011 5:14 pm ET)
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        I actually think that Hunstman would do very well with independents, but Fox has made sure to minimize him as a candidate. He was, after all, a part of the Obama administration. In the FOXPAC world, that is treason. Serving your country is not to be commended unless it is under a Republican administration.
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        • Author by pete x tp (December 14, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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          Huntsman never had a chance at the nomination and has started saying things that are almost as crazy as the others.
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (December 15, 2011 10:41 am ET)
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            Huntsman is also the only one who has said sane things (aside from Romney, but that depends on what day it is and who he's speaking to) like admitting that global climate change is backed by credible science, and that the war on drugs isn't working very well.
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    • Author by Crumble (December 14, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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      Fox is in a heated competition on who's funnier... Fox News or Comedy Central. Take that, Stewart & Colbert!
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      • Author by shaggles (December 14, 2011 6:10 pm ET)
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        I think Fox is recycling rejected Krusty the Clown jokes for their "news" network.
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      • Author by Unreality (December 15, 2011 3:11 am ET)
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        Let's make a clear distinction between funny and absurd. Stewart is funny, FauxNoise is always absurd and frequently unintentionally ironic.

        I'd compare FauxNoise and Onion News.

        I have long-time friends who are established comedians. Every 4 years they traditionally did a presidential campaign theme show with one of the group portraying a candidate.

        I warned them that there was literally no way they could use their traditional absurdist humor and top the bizarro world of FauxNoise and the GOP debates. They would be better off mere reading the FauxNoise transcripts and it would be absurd and funny in a different context.
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    • Author by pete x tp (December 14, 2011 8:09 pm ET)
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      My apologies for going off topic but FAUX"News" has done another disgusting thing today. After hearing that Time magazine named "the protester" as Person of the Year; FAUX"News" is running a headline that reads: "Time honors domestic terrorists".
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      • Author by dogbreath (December 14, 2011 10:47 pm ET)
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        Grief. How exactly have the protestors in this country been terrorists? These people are no better than the loyalists during the American Revolution. I hate FOX, I really do.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (December 15, 2011 10:47 am ET)
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          Yeah, not only is that immature, heavy handed, and ridiculous, that kind of statement from a major news outlet is dangerous.

          Equating the rank and file members of a political movement as terrorists is an invitation to more of these violent incidents like the one targeting the Tides foundation that ended in a police shootout, or the assassination attempt of Gabby Giffords that left several dead.

          Words have meaning. Terrorism is a powerful term that evokes images and memories of heinous and desperate acts of violence. This is truly disturbing to see such irresponsible behavior in the "mainstream" media.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (December 15, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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        LAPD certainly is concerned about these potential terrorists.
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    • Author by politeradical (December 14, 2011 8:23 pm ET)
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      I knew Romney was a flip flopper but this is getting ridiculous.
      ________
      Rants of a Radical
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    • Author by goodfight (December 14, 2011 10:14 pm ET)
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      Recently on FOXNEWS, Christine O'Donnell made an appearance, giving her endorsement of Mitt Romney. I immediately smelled a rat, and it's not because I forgot to clean out the mousetraps. What with the witchcraft, and other assorted wackiness, O'Donnell looks like a kook. She also had financial troubles during and after her Senate race. What do you want to bet that Roger paid her to endorse Romney, thereby making Mitt's name mud? If a "witch" endorses Romney, he must be weird, and Mormonism is a bizarre cult.
      I believe substituting Obama's picture for Romney is FOXNEWS' version of "subliminumable" messages. Tear down Romney, and Gingrich gains. Also, if I remember correctly, Karl Rove was making fun of O'Donnell on this sorry excuse for a news network, causing Palin to come rushing to her defense. Somehow I imagine Rove supporting Gingrich isn't a big stretch.
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    • Author by magnolialover (December 15, 2011 7:16 am ET)
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      How in professional can one news station get? Sure, are they going to have some n air errors? Of course they are. But time and time again? Are the Marx brothers running the show over there?
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 15, 2011 9:11 am ET)
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      After this graphic mitt Romney went on Sean Hannity's radio sho,and went full wing nut......
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      • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 10:35 am ET)
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        Is it just me or does Romney appear really wild eyed, desperate and nervous, all the time lately? He sure doesn't seem to be as confident and smooth as he was even 6 months ago. To me anyway.
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        • Author by heehee..santorum (December 15, 2011 12:45 pm ET)
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          He has issues.
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          • Author by Bronwyn (December 15, 2011 7:34 pm ET)
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            LOL, yeah starting with his magic underwear.
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            • Author by heehee..santorum (December 16, 2011 2:48 pm ET)
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              That too, but the stuttery nervousness and odd responses he gave to Brett Bair in the Fox interview made him sound like a handcuffed tweaker. Having the inside scoop on Moroni has to be a plus in this election, it can't get any weirder....
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              • Author by Bronwyn (December 16, 2011 4:28 pm ET)
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                Lately he acts the same mingling and shaking hands with the crowd. When answering any question he appears very frightened with that stuttery nervousness. His fear shows in his eyes. He's probably terrified that everything he says is going to come back to haunt him. As so many of his contradictions already have.
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                • Author by heehee..santorum (December 16, 2011 6:30 pm ET)
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                  He is the kind of person who I would be afraid of fielding the dreaded "3a.m. phone-call". If he can't swing Fox-News, he is sunk.
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    • Author by VictorLaszlo (December 15, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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      The Fox News graphics department is having a very bad week.


      Wrong again.

      The mislabeling of the states was probably a mistake. The other two are clear examples of propaganda.

      So they made one obvious mistake, and besides that they did their jobs.

      When will MMFA get a clue and realize that Fox News is not incompetent, and that they do exactly what they mean to do?

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    • Author by scooter51 (December 15, 2011 12:58 pm ET)
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      This was deliberate and calculated. Any other belief is delusion.

      Fox news lies - period.
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    • Author by cjj (December 15, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
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      Well, at lest we know that FOX isn't all work and no play. <sarc>
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    • Author by Gnarly Erik (December 16, 2011 4:55 pm ET)
         
      It is called 'graphical deceit' and is widely and deliberately used by those whose arguments lack substance.
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