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Fox Celebrates Holidays With Outrageous Race-Based Attack On Obama

December 23, 2011 12:26 am ET by Solange Uwimana

Fox News' animosity toward President Obama, three years into his presidency, is by now well-known. This is the network that routinely calls Obama a socialist, accuses him of being involved in all sorts of conspiratorial plots, and claims that he hates America. But, as witnessed Thursday on Hannity, Fox's attacks have taken an increasingly racially charged tone: Brent Bozell, who runs the factually challenged outfit of conservative misinformation known as the Media Research Center, likened Obama to "a skinny, ghetto crackhead."

Bozell appeared on Hannity as part of the show's weekly "Media Mash" segment to talk about purported mainstream media failings. After listening to a clip of MSNBC host Chris Matthews saying that Newt Gingrich "looks like a car bomber," Bozell responded:

BOZELL: How long do you think Sean Hannity's show would last if four times in one sentence, he made a comment about, say, the President of the United States, and said that he looked like a skinny, ghetto crackhead? Which, by the way, you might want to say that Barack Obama does. Everybody on the left would come forward and demand he be fired within five minutes for being so insulting towards a leader of the United States.

A few months ago, Fox's Eric Bolling came under fire for his racially charged criticisms of Obama, including his claims that Obama was "chugging 40's in IRE while tornadoes ravage MO" (which he later tried to amend), and that Obama was hosting "hoodlum[s] in the hizzouse" when he welcomed Gabon President Ali Bongo Ondimba and rapper Common to the White House.

These attacks have become a pattern at Fox News. 

Since April of this year when Obama announced he would be running for reelection, attacks have ranged from false claims about the president's place of birth and religion to claiming Obama has "black nationalist sympathies." Fox's Monica Crowley, for example, derided Obama as a "committed wealth redistributionist" for the apparent benefit of African-Americans.

But this is nothing new. Fox News and its personalities have a long history of aggressive race-baiting and racially charged commentary. Moreover, Fox News' news-aggregation website, Fox Nation, has a habit of prominently featuring race-baiting headlines and content in an apparent effort to attract and encourage racist commenters. One memorable headline read: "Obama's Hip-Hop BBQ Didn't Create Jobs."

Aside from sanctioning in-house race-baiting, Fox hasn't shied away from welcoming those who spread the same message. For example, after going on an extended, racially charged tirade about crime and "too many urban thugs, yo" in Atlanta, radio host Neal Boortz found a welcoming home on Fox News to discuss the economy.

During the Hannity segment, Bozell also blasted New York Times columnist Paul Krugman as a "little worm" for accurately describing, in a "melodramatic" fashion, Rep. Paul Ryan's proposal to end Medicare. Bozell accused Krugman of "hatemongering" and "fearmongering," then said to guest host Mark Steyn:

BOZELL: You think, Mark, about those endless lectures we've heard from the left over the years about hatemongering and fearmongering and civility, and they're always giving those lessons to Sean Hannity, to Rush Limbaugh, to Mark Levin, to Ann Coulter, but then Paul Krugman says this kind of thing and the silence is deafening. Paul Krugman is just a little worm.

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    • Author by MeanMrSpicyMustard (December 23, 2011 12:48 am ET)
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      Mark Steyn has an enormous mouth.

      I don't mean that figuratively.

      When he talks, it's like looking into the abyss.
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      • Author by grmce (December 23, 2011 2:24 am ET)
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        Mark is an embarrassing Steyn on public discourse.
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      • Author by Spooky Dooooooooood (December 23, 2011 7:33 am ET)
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        During the commercial breaks, he opens his mouth and an assistant shovels in a load of plankton.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (December 23, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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        Careful. When you stare into Mark Steyn's mouth, it stares into you.
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 23, 2011 9:46 pm ET)
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        Well, it is just obvious that this group of racists in our party could not win at the ballot box so they are trying their best to undermine the Obama administration. However, I notice that Obama just ignored them and trudges on from one wonderful accomplishment to the next. I was devastated during the entire GW Bush fiasco but I never stooped to these sorts of disgusting racist nor personal attacks. On the issues is fair game for any Democrat or Republican but these totally infantile racist statements show far less about the Obama character and far more about the Racist bomb throwers like this guy than they will ever ADMIT. Poor things. Lying to ones self is the worst of lies!
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 24, 2011 12:58 am ET)
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        You can always easily identify those media folks that are so unsure of themselves. They make these stupid comments about a President that is ten times smarter than they are, who got elected fair and square and who outshines them both in brains and civil behavior. I know our President's superior brains and program plans make them feel like worms and then they go and illustrate that point so graphically as this dolt so obviously did. I am a life long Republican but I totally disavow this sort of swill that guys like this spread.
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 25, 2011 2:00 am ET)
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        Well, Mark would not have had a platform for his totally ungodly and racist swill if he had not been allowed to do so on the presently acclaimed Hannity sewer rag. any self respecting Christian would have put a stop to such racist garbage but we never seem to be able to count on poor Hannity to disapprove of any racist garbage so long as it is pointed towards our President. I am a life long MODERATE Republican but alas, these racist monsters make it very difficult for me to stay in such a party. This is the straw that will force me to leave the grand old party that has seemed to have gotten overrun with these racists. So alas, I leave them with their racist garbage and I am feeling cleaner as i go.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (December 23, 2011 2:34 am ET)
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      I wonder what many of the Fox viewers would think if they knew I was black, female, retired, and making more money on retirement than they make working everyday? I'm revealing this information because I'm sick and tired of some on the right and the MMs trolls who buy into the BS that blacks are looking for PBO to "do" something for us. It's past the time to put an end to this very flawed claim. I truly believe it's their insecurity and fear of "the other" that compels them to make claims of this sort. I know a lot of black people and all of them work. Most of them are professionals with college degrees. This BS is the same type of BS that Newt is trying to stir up to win the GOP nomination. IMO, if these suckers can't win by coming up with platforms that appeal to the majority of Americans, they don't need to be POTUS. Using racism to win is one of the most weak and cowardly ways of winning anything.
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      • Author by SMTDL (December 23, 2011 10:15 am ET)
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        Thanks for a wonderful comment.I see most Black people working and many succeeding as you see.Of course too many struggle with poverty and class isolation.There are lots of Black Professionals who are producing high-achieving offspring but this get ignored by right wing bigotry and a sometimes complicit media.Just look at the comment Trump made in support of Gingrich about poor children.Trump agreed w/Gingrich that these children had NO role models,except maybe President Obama who was according to TRUMP a Terrible role model!Talk about clueless bigotry,that takes the cake.I was disappointed how Wolf Blitzer didn't really call him out on that.There are so many prominent,well known Black professionals that come to mind and he says this!!I don't just mean entertainment and athletic professionals.Think of Dr Neil De Grasse Tyson or Ron McNair for example.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 2:57 pm ET)
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          I remember a very telling (don't know how effective it was in opening peoples' eyes) PSA from ten or fifteen years ago. It showed a young, white teenager, 14, maybe 15 years old, skateboarding in an upscale suburban housing development. He rolled into a cul-de-sac, hopped off and sat down next to a friend. They then proceeded to share a joint. The end chyron read, "Thirty per cent of drug abuse takes place in the inner city. Where do you think the other sixty per cent happens?"
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          • Author by LKL (December 23, 2011 8:54 pm ET)
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            "Thirty per cent of drug abuse takes place in the inner city. Where do you think the other sixty per cent happens?


            I hate to be snarky, but had whoever wrote that line smoked the other ten percent? :0)
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          • Author by Boswell (December 24, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
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            sorry but where is the "abuse" in that ad? they didn't shoot it up or snort it off each others penis did they? that is my question every time I see something like that.
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      • Author by mari2jj (December 23, 2011 5:37 pm ET)
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        I am sorry if this correction makes you sad, but these oafs making such disparaging comments about our President do it for the sole reason of trying to make themselves sound a tad relevant and to quench their insane jealousy concerning him since he has the nerve to work hard, study and stay in school and then most of all, be elected as our country's president Go to a Republican precinct meeting these days and probably some racist goof like this will spout off and make such an ignorant comment just like this person made.
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        • Author by dazednamused (December 23, 2011 6:45 pm ET)
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          It's the only line of attack they have and it's beyond pathetic. With all the Karl Rove-inspired minions doing the dirty work for the RNC, you'd think if there were any startling revelations or skeletons to yank out of Obama's closet, they'd have found them waaaaaaaay before he was even nominated as a candidate. They have NOTHING on him. He excelled in school and worked his way up in our society and he appears to adore his wife _ meaning he's faithful. If he wasn't, we'd know about it. I guarantee you that. It drives these clowns absolutely bananas that the POTUS isn't a jive-talking skirt-chaser (paging Herman Cain).
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    • Author by Jerdol (December 23, 2011 5:24 am ET)
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      I completely disagree with this article. Bozell is NOT calling Obama a crackhead: he explicitly frames this as an example of an unacceptable slur. And I think he's completely right about Matthews' attack being outrageous.
      I agree that his name-calling regarding Krugman is wrong, but I really don't think there's too much that was objectionable here. There's so much that's truly disgusting at Fox, it's unfortunate that Media Matters has chosen to weaken its credibility with this article.
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    • Author by phlcstgan (December 23, 2011 6:38 am ET)
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      My favorite part is how Bozell opens as though he's only framing it as a hypothetical and then goes ahead and explicitly says it anyway. It's like he had a flicker of capacity for shame and luckily he was able to kill it before it spread.
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      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:09 am ET)
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        That's what's killing me. He's criticizing Matthews for what he said, and gives an example to show how it's wrong, and then validates that hypothetical...which would make him wrong.

        Otherwise, what was his point? If it's acceptable for Bozell to say what he did, then what is he criticizing Matthews for? What a moron.
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        • Author by jeter2 (December 23, 2011 10:25 am ET)
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          If Bozell had said:

          How long do you think Sean Hannity's show would last if four times in one sentence, he made a comment about, say, the President of the United States, and said that he looks like a car bomber

          Then Bozell would have made his point, because Matthews was a jerk saying that about Gingrich, no matter what you think of the guy.. But instead Bozell pulls out a racist comment, & on top of that says the President in fact does look like a ghetto crackhead.

          And then they scream hypocrisy. Too funny.

          Off topic...Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to everyone.
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          • Author by heehee..santorum (December 23, 2011 10:32 am ET)
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            Mr. Bozell is a real piece of work, Merry Christmas and Seasons Greetings to everyone!
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          • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:42 am ET)
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            Even if he had advanced his hypothetical and left it at that, I would put in the "questionable" category as far as racism is concerned. It would seem strange that his mind would go to that, but it could just be a poor choice of example. Not that I'm eager to give this clown the benefit of the doubt, but I would have liked to have seen a history of racist or other questionable comments to establish a pattern.

            But as it played out, he took what seems to have been a valid complaint and then exhibited worse behavior than what he was talking about. That takes a special kind of stupid.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (December 23, 2011 11:03 am ET)
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            Merry Christmas to you and yours jeter. Lets hope 2012 brings another ring. #28! Merry Christmas to everyone!!!
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          • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 2:58 pm ET)
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            And to you, Jeter. Looking forward to the Winter Classic? One of my sons has tickets.
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (December 23, 2011 8:52 pm ET)
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            Yes Jeter, Holiday Greetings.

            And condolences on BCD's passing. He seemed like a good guy who didn't deserve to pass prematurely AND to have his life co-opted by cruel elements of our society. Just know my thoughts are with his wife and his son.

            Please make stopping smoking a New Year's resolution, my man.
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          • Author by eweston8542983 (December 23, 2011 9:08 pm ET)
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            Yah blessings to you all. Whatever hienous pagan debouch... er festivities you engage in this time of year.

            Waiting for Capt Equinox, Damp Butte Wa.
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            • Author by juliajayne1 (December 23, 2011 10:16 pm ET)
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              Or as "The Stephen" says "Yahweh or No Way?!" Or sumptin' like that thar! Lol!

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        • Author by CoolSlaw (December 23, 2011 10:46 am ET)
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          I've heard Matthews call Newt Gingrich a "bomb thrower" in the purely political sense, describing how he launches negative and inflammatory comments regularly. The "Car bomber" comment as presented was over the top, and I agree Chris should have reigned it in on that comment.

          As for the Paul Krugman comment, I didn't hear anything wrong with it, even in the limited context used on the segment it sounded completely reasonable and clear headed to me. I'm not sure what the problem was with that comment. I would have loved for them to try and dispute Krugman's claim rather then dismiss it as "hateful" without any examination.

          Then he had to go for the Mike Malloy show to find another example. I guess he couldn't find anything better on any of the shows that have a significant audience. You could find better examples of hateful speech from right wingers on more mainstream shows on a regular basis(thanks Media Matters).
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    • Author by Fairfaxer (December 23, 2011 9:00 am ET)
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      It should not be forgotten that Bozell's father was mentally ill, and was involuntarily committed on a number of occasions. He spent most of the latter part of his life institutionalized. FWIW, Bozell III has a Mr. Potatohead-shaped cabeza similar to that of his father (check out Wikipedia's entry on the old man for a picture). Fortunately for the younger one, psychotropic pharmacology has made great advances in the last half-century.
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    • Author by neon desert (December 23, 2011 9:35 am ET)
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      Bozell: "Paul Krugman is just a little worm."
      A little worm with an education and proven C.V. and a Nobel Prize in his profession.

      Oh yeah, Bozell's credibility got a real boost here.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (December 23, 2011 10:49 am ET)
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        Krugman's statement is the most reasonable thing said during that whole segment. Note how they never actually dispute what he says, they mostly just dismiss Krugman.
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      • Author by nerzog (December 23, 2011 12:03 pm ET)
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        The Troglodytes have to demonize Krugman because he shoots holes in their trickle-down myths.
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        • Author by Boswell (December 24, 2011 12:52 pm ET)
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          yup he tinkles on their sacred tinkle-down "theory", really a hypothesis that has not risen to the level of a theory since it has been shown to be false in every regard.
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      • Author by dazednamused (December 24, 2011 1:15 am ET)
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        Isn't Bozell someone's son? Ya gotta love a legacy pundit _ and, yes, that's all he is. Let's take daddy's beliefs and his name, ramp up the bile and rake in the dough. Jesus, Bozell, cut the umbilical chord already!
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    • Author by Nihilist (December 23, 2011 10:45 am ET)
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      its good to see that xtian channel fox, is embracing the season of good will to all men.... oh i forgot, the white supremacists on fox dont think of the prez as a 'man', but a 'boy'...

      think bozo-ell, used enough 'code' words?...

      ho, ho, ho?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 3:01 pm ET)
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        I guess they exempt the President from that "goodwill toward men" touchy feely stuff because they only see him as a 3/5er.
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    • Author by TheRoseLensPuzzle (December 23, 2011 10:56 am ET)
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      How long do you think Sean Hannity's show would last if... [he said] the President of the United States... looked like a skinny, ghetto crackhead? Which, by the way, you might want to say that Barack Obama does."


      Even if he didn't come right out and say it... he did. Using hypothetical questions (and answers) to underhandedly insult the president. Wow.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (December 23, 2011 11:26 am ET)
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      Stay classy Fox.
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    • Author by thewhatnow? (December 23, 2011 11:48 am ET)
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      Dr. Krugman - Nobel prize winning economist. Bozell - a bug, a speck, a blogger.
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    • Author by politeradical (December 23, 2011 12:58 pm ET)
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      I love that they begin the Krugman quote mid-sentence. What are you hiding Brent? The rest they've got nothing for. Krugman was dead right that Ryan's plan to for Medicare would be a disaster. And they're horrified that Krugman wasn't chastised. Why? For rightly pointing out that seniors would die under Ryan's plan as their vouchers expired.

      The Malloy comment is over the top, but it begs the question why the Baghdad Braintrust aren't on trial for several thousand counts of criminally negligent homicide?

      And the skinny crackhead comment is egregious in its brash racism and I love that he straw mans it with a "If Hannity said it..." then says it himself.

      Bozell, give yourself an award you tool.
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      • Author by juliajayne1 (December 23, 2011 10:20 pm ET)
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        For rightly pointing out that seniors would die under Ryan's plan as their vouchers expired.

        "Coupon Care" at it's finest!
        Save the Insurance Cartels, not Grandpa!
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    • Author by steeve (December 23, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
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      Funny how the insensitive "liberal" comment came from a guy who despised both Clintons and Gore with every cell in his body and man-crushed on Bush, McCain, and Giuliani.

      Anyone linking Matthews with liberalism is an instant moron.
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      • Author by MiG (December 23, 2011 1:13 pm ET)
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        Amen!
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      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
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        And that's the corner that Bozell painted himself into. Bias can be demonstrated, but there has to be a pattern to it. Misinformation is much easier to show, and repeated instances from the same person or entity can be interpreted as a result of ideology. But just putting out a clip from someone and claiming it's due to "liberal bias" is much harder to claim. Matthews could easily be a fan of Mitt Romney, and went over the top for that reason alone. He could be a lifelong conservative and rip on Gingrich, the same way many Democrats assaulted Obama or Hillary Clinton in 2008.

        I'm not sure I would classify Bozell as an "instant" moron, though. He seems to have worked his entire life at it.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (December 23, 2011 1:38 pm ET)
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          I'm not sure I would classify Bozell as an "instant" moron, though. He seems to have worked his entire life at it. ---B

          Zing! Shot em' down to the ground! lol.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 3:03 pm ET)
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            Right. In flames.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (December 23, 2011 6:22 pm ET)
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              What! In flames?!?! That sounds like violent librul rhetoric!!! Waaaah!

              Just thought I'd post that in the absence of trolls. Your welcome.
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      • Author by BobDaCajun (December 24, 2011 10:47 am ET)
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        I agree Matthews admitted to voting for Bush at least once, and hinted he did the second time as well.
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    • Author by wookie (December 23, 2011 1:18 pm ET)
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      Of course the wingnuts do their usual bit of sliming Obama while saying that the PC oppressors won't allow them to slime Obama.
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    • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (December 23, 2011 1:20 pm ET)
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      Bozo is the main reason the right likes to claim the that media has a left-wing bias. Basically, if Bozo says a certain report is biased to the left, then it is biased to the left. This has been their strategy for years. Krugman points out that many elderly people would likely lose their health care if Medicare is privatized, which the Republicans want, and he likened that to cruelty. Bozo thinks this is an over the top statement and thus an example of liberal media bias. Really? What about Republicans routinely saying that Obama wanted to create "death panels"? This is on both Fox News and the "mainstream" media as well. But Bozo still whines that his side is not being represented.

      And for Bozo to say that Krugman is fearmongering more than the right is completely insane. Hannity, Levin, Limbaugh and Coulter have done nothing but fearmonger from the very beginning. They spent all kinds of energy to convince people that Obama was a Manchurian candidate, elitist, socialist who wanted America to give in to terrorists. That is all you heard on right-wing radio. Just three weeks before the election in 2008, I turned on Michael Savage for a couple minutes and he said that if Obama was elected that in 6 months he would come for all of our guns and in 1 year there would no longer be a United States of America. What do you call that, Bozo? Is that a rational, well thought out critique of Obama or is that fearmongering? By the way, how did Savage's prediction go? It seems we still have a country and that gun laws have been loosened almost to the point where we're back in the Old West again.

      Bozo constantly complains about the right not getting their say on the "mainstream" media. Bozo is far right-wing but he thinks of himself as being center-right. Therefore, anything that is even slightly to the liberal side of his point of view is now considered far left liberal by him. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans were on board with a system like Social Security. Some still are but the vocal ones, like Bozo, now think of it as and entitlement program. By the way, Bozo, I've luckily been employed for 28 consecutive years, working hard, and paying into that "entitlement" program and if you think I'm going to let idiots like you privatize and take it from me you can forget it.

      Thanks to people like Bozo, and their bogus claims of liberal media bias, the Republican party has been pushed so far to the right that they're really closer to facists now. And now that they are so far right, they look at the Democratic party and claim that they are on the far left of things. The reality is that the Democratic party has not changed much at all over the years, they're still unorganized as hell. They need the rational Republican party to help balance things out again, you know, the party that believes in financial responsibility all the time, not just when a Democrat is president. This country needs people like Bozo, Grover Norquist and the Tea Party to go back to the fringe, where they belong, so rational Republicans can take over the party again. When that happens, we'll have balance and maybe can function as a country again.

      Bozo thinks his voice is not being heard enough and he cries foul because of it. On the contrary, his voice is being heard, loud and clear, and the country is worse off as a result. When the Republicans get crushed in 2012, and they will, maybe the party will finally chase off these lunatics that have hijacked it.

      Every time I hear them say there is a liberal media bias, I just laugh because I know that the lunatics still buy this garbage. It used to be easy to find a ballgame on the radio to listen to on my drive home from work. Now, I have to work my way through about a half-dozen right-wing lunatics, ranting on the radio about how the media is so liberal before I can find a game strong enough to pick up. Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Savage and many others come through loud and clear but not my ballgame. The irony of the right-wing is astonishing!
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      • Author by steeve (December 23, 2011 1:31 pm ET)
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        "They need the rational Republican party to help balance things out again"

        The implication of that statement is that there existed a time in this nation's history when its policy was too liberal. When was that time? I've never heard about it.

        The center of today's democratic party is the republican balance you want. We need a major party far to the left of that in order to surround reality from both ends.
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        • Author by turtledoubledeuce5333 (December 23, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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          No. I did not imply that the country was ever too liberal. I implied that the Republican party was not always this extreme. I don't think that the country will ever be completely liberal but we certainly need to start moving more that direction for balance again.

          Maybe you're right. Maybe we do need a major party far to the left of what we have now in the Democratic party to balance things out. However, in the end, we will need some sort of compromise on both sides to work effectively. We will never see that with the current leadership of the Republican party, though.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 3:06 pm ET)
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            Have to agree, turtle. If I'm challenged to name 5 Republicans I respect, the first name that comes to mind is Everett Dirksen. Things slow down after that.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (December 23, 2011 6:39 pm ET)
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        That was a nice essay turtle, and the one point I think you make that cannot be stressed enough is this idea of the mainstream media being "liberal" and conservative voices not being heard.

        People like Bozell will never be satisfied with the amount of representation conservatives receive in the mainstream press. He is not an honest broker, but a hack.

        Analysis after analysis shows that conservatives get better representation in almost all forms of mainstream media, from Sunday shows with conservative heavy panels, to the number of contractors and lobbyists with blatant conflicts of interest being allowed to spew propaganda unchallenged, to the method by which right wing frames and memes are injected into mainstream news reports regularly. This is not even counting the monopolistic hold over talk radio, the number one cable news network, and the plethora of television stations and newspapers owned by far right wing media moguls.

        Sorry Brent, but the mythical days of liberal media bias are long gone if they ever really existed. With so much money invested in the right wing echo chamber, and so much ability to control and dominate the message, you should really be blaming your leaders for failing to communicate a rational message.
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      • Author by Ribelin2000 (December 23, 2011 9:11 pm ET)
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        Brent Bozell makes me sick. Not only is he a neo-fascist, racist, homophobic liar, he's a neo-fascist, racist, sexist, homophobic liar. There is no better proof of his misogyny than the opening paragraph to his op-ed piece, "MTV, Both Sleazy and Sour", from earlier this month:
        Once upon a time, women were considered the "fairer sex", the "better half". Stewardesses were talented and beautiful. Wives were softer, more gentle. Men fought for their honor. Feminism crushed all of that. It is a testimony to their movement that in today's post-feminist entertainment media, part of what makes television so corrosive and sour is just how piggish the women have become.


        "Piggish"? Ain't that rich, coming from a neo-fascist, racist, sexist, homophobic, lying pig like Brent Bozell!
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    • Author by sluggo (December 23, 2011 1:38 pm ET)
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      Lets see... who advertises on FOX?

      I suspect companies making bed clothes and bleach (gotta get those sheets White) pay top dollar for spots on this show.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (December 23, 2011 2:35 pm ET)
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      That's pretty funny coming from a guy that looks like a sterotypical Irish drunk.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (December 23, 2011 3:07 pm ET)
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        I resemble that remark.
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      • Author by n'est-ce pas (December 23, 2011 4:17 pm ET)
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        Hey, man. My people tend toward merriment when we're drunk. This guy acts like a damn Englishman. Big difference.
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      • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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        I think he might be one-quarter Irish. I believe his maternal grandfather was Irish, his maternal grandmother (who had a drinking problem) was Cajun French, and his father was a WASP until he converted to Catholicism under the influence of William F. Buckley Jr. (his college roommate). I think I have the Buckley family tree right.
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    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 4:19 pm ET)
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      What Chris Matthews called Newt Gingrich is worse than what Brent Bozell called Barack Obama. Being a skinny, crack addict in a ghetto does not make one as bad as a terrorist.

      The odd thing, though, is that Gingrich actually is a terrorist who supports the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. He supported Ronald Reagan's terrorism in Central America. Bozell did as well. Bozell comes from that right-wing Catholic milieu that supported Franco in Spain. By the way, the United States still has not paid the World Court judgment it owes to Nicaragua.
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      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
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        I can't play clips very well, but from the text it looks like Matthews was talking about appearances. What Matthews said was wrong, but Bozell's racist remark suggests that black people generally look like ghetto crackheads, because there's nothing that distinguishes Obama's appearance from any other respectable black person.
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      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
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        I can't play clips very well, but from the text it looks like Matthews was talking about appearances. What Matthews said was wrong, but Bozell's racist remark suggests that black people generally look like ghetto crackheads, because there's nothing that distinguishes Obama's appearance from any other respectable black person.
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        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 5:09 pm ET)
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          I don't know that looking like a terrorist is preferable to looking like a crack addict.
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          • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 5:19 pm ET)
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            It's called racism, 4teepee.
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            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 5:30 pm ET)
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              It's called terrorism.
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              • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 7:37 pm ET)
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                And this is called changing the subject. You're responding to an article about the racist attack on Obama. But you can't speak on that, can you?
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                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:28 pm ET)
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                  You want to avoid the proximate cause, don't you?
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                  • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 9:34 pm ET)
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                    I'm not the one changing the subject.
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                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:44 pm ET)
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                      You're ducking it altogether. Media Matters did too.
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                      • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 9:55 pm ET)
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                        This is about what Bozell said about Obama, not about what anyone else said or did.
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                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:00 pm ET)
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                          How convenient! But I'm not falling for it.
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                          • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:09 pm ET)
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                            "The subject upon which I'm speaking is very convenience, but I'm not falling for it!"

                            Sorry, but if you're too cowardly to speak on the subject, I see no further use responding to you.
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                            • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:00 am ET)
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                              If you can get this one to tell the truth it will be a Christmas miracle.
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              • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:10 pm ET)
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                Is there some suggestion about a group of people looking like terrorists here? Is it based on his ethnicity, or traits that Gingrich personally possesses?
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                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:36 pm ET)
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                  Actually, Bozell did not mention a group of people. He mentioned Obama. He did not say Oprah Winfrey looked like a skinny, ghetto crackhead.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:41 pm ET)
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                    The word was "suggestion". That is not the same as "mention", as you surely know.
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                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:41 pm ET)
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                    The word was "suggestion". That is not the same as "mention", as you surely know.
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                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:46 pm ET)
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                      You used the wrong word unless you are a mind reader.
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                      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:49 pm ET)
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                        I explained the suggestion above and you didn't address it. If you want to challenge what I said, be my guest, but I'm very much allowed to present a reasonable interpretation of Bozell's comments. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter in the least.
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                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:51 pm ET)
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                          And I debunked it. Oprah is not skinny. Try to pay attention.
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                          • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 9:58 pm ET)
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                            You said that in the context of "mention", since you can't pay attention to your own posts. Again;
                            ...Bozell's racist remark suggests that black people generally look like ghetto crackheads, because there's nothing that distinguishes Obama's appearance from any other respectable black person.
                            Your "Oprah" comment does not address that. Besides, if "skinny" is inherent to "ghetto crackhead", why say it? Why not just say "ghetto crackhead", instead of being redundant? Logically, there must be something besides weight that reminds Bozell of a "ghetto crackhead".
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                            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:04 pm ET)
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                              "Besides, if "skinny" is inherent to "ghetto crackhead", why say it?"

                              You just proved my point. He could not have been talking about all blacks. Try to pay attention.
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                              • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
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                                You're completely confused. The point is that he has no reason to specify it if it's inherent to "crackhead". Which means he might think there are fat crackheads as well.

                                Now, again, "there's nothing that distinguishes Obama's appearance from any other respectable black person". True or false?
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                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:11 pm ET)
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                                  False. Oprah is not skinny. Take a look at her sometime. You're on some bad acid. But that does not mean everybody in your ethnic group is on bad acid.
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                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:13 pm ET)
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                                    I didn't say Oprah was skinny. You're the only one talking about Oprah here. I'd be grateful if you'd familiarize yourself with the conversation and reply appropriately.
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                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:13 pm ET)
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                                    I didn't say Oprah was skinny. You're the only one talking about Oprah here. I'd be grateful if you'd familiarize yourself with the conversation and reply appropriately.
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                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:15 pm ET)
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                                      You first need to demonstrate some degree of coherence.
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                                      • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:22 pm ET)
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                                        I'll make it real simple. Obama = skinny. Oprah = fat. There's your distinction, unless you are saying one of them is not respectable.
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                                        • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:31 pm ET)
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                                          Oprah was not mentioned in the video. Bozell called Obama skinny, ghetto crackhead. Now, either speak on that or you show to everyone that you are a coward.
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                                          • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:36 pm ET)
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                                            I don't like being called a coward by someone who is one -- especially by one who is also a moron. Now quit ducking what Matthews said, coward.
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                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:34 pm ET)
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                                        Ad hominem. Surely you can do better.

                                        Even if I modify it to "any other respectable thin black person" ("skinny"? Is he emaciated, or just fit, honestly?), do you have a response? Is anyone, of any other race, likely to be called a "ghetto crackhead" just because they're in good shape? Not just "crackhead", but "ghetto", which I dare you to deny is strongly associated with race.

                                        You can play games all you like, but you have no argument.
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                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:45 pm ET)
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                                          Ad hominem? Read your own posts, moron. You have no argument because Bozell mentioned only Obama, who is skinny. Now contrast that with saying someone looks like a terrorist.
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                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:50 pm ET)
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                                            How have I attacked you and not your posts? Do you know what "ad hominem" means?

                                            I made my argument in the post you responded to. You responded with an attack and nothing to address what I wrote. What's your problem?
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                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:52 pm ET)
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                                              Can you read your own posts? Again, respond to my previous post, coward.
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                                              • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:58 pm ET)
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                                                Actually, Aristotelian logic is just one of my strong points -- Boolean too.
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                                                • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:03 pm ET)
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                                                  If logic is one of your strong points and you feel compelled to launch ad hominem attacks when someone simply disagrees with you, you need to look into anger management or some sort of medication. That's not meant as a joke or an attack, honestly. I'd encourage you to revisit this conversation later and see if you really think you're behaving appropriately.
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                                              • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 10:59 pm ET)
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                                                Yes, I've read my posts. Where did I attack you and not what you wrote?

                                                You seem to be saying that something can't be racist if it only mentions one person, and doesn't explicitly specify the entire race. Is that your position?

                                                Now, how about you respond to the point I've been making from the start, and specifically at 10:34 p.m? "I don't like being called a coward by someone who is one...", right?
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                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:06 pm ET)
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                                                  I've responded all along. You just don't like the answers.

                                                  You said I was completely confused. That's ad hominem, although it didn't bother me.
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                                                  • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:11 pm ET)
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                                                    By the way, I might as well get you on the record about this. How do you feel about Obama's racism toward the Palestinians?
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                                                    • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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                                                      How is this relevant to my point?
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                                                      • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:13 pm ET)
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                                                        Because I know a hypocrite when I see one.
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                                                        • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:16 pm ET)
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                                                          An assumption without evidence. Are you not the same person who talked about "mind reading" earlier?
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                                                          • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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                                                            The evidence is your ducking, hypocrite.
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                                                            • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:25 pm ET)
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                                                              That's an interesting take on the concept of linear time. You asked a question because you "know a hypocrite", when the evidence of being a hypocrite is ducking the question you asked. So if I had answered your irrelevant question, you could not have possibly asked it in the first place.

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                                                              • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:30 pm ET)
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                                                                You had already ducked. Try to pay attention.
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                                                                • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:34 pm ET)
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                                                                  Really? So when you said:
                                                                  By the way, I might as well get you on the record about this. How do you feel about Obama's racism toward the Palestinians?
                                                                  ...that was the second or subsequent time you asked me that question? What do you imagine you're talking about? Please be specific.
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                                                                  • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:45 pm ET)
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                                                                    No mention of hypocrite there.
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                                                                    • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:51 pm ET)
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                                                                      How does that follow what I said? I didn't say or suggest you had used the word "hypocrite" in a previous post. What had I "ducked" previously that made your question about Palestinians relevant in any way?
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                                                                      • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:56 pm ET)
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                                                                        You're ducking again.
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                                                                        • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:02 am ET)
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                                                                          Asking for clarification and repeating the question you have not answered is not "ducking". Your response doesn't seem to make any sense, so you should explain it.

                                                                          What had I "ducked" earlier? How do you expect me to address your arguments if you can't make a good faith effort to explain what the hell you're talking about?
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                                                                          • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:08 am ET)
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                                                                            Yet again, how do feel about Obama's racism toward the Palestinians? It is a question about the selective outrage that abounds around here.
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                                                                            • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:14 am ET)
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                                                                              Your post suggests that your question is not relevant to anything I've posted here. Should I ask you a question about baseball, if we're going to engage in meaningless distractions?

                                                                              Also, your question contains an assumption, like "have you stopped beating your wife" does. "Do you feel Obama is racist towards Palestinians" would be more appropriate.
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                                                                              • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:16 am ET)
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                                                                                You just proved my point.
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                                                                                • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:17 am ET)
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                                                                                  Again, how so?
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                                                                                  • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:21 am ET)
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                                                                                    Ducking
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                                                                                    • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:27 am ET)
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                                                                                      You're not going to tell me how your question is relevant, but I'm supposed to honor it? I'm also still waiting for you to explain what previous question that I "ducked" prompted you to ask the Palestinian question in the first place.

                                                                                      Can you claim you're not "ducking" my questions with any sense of honesty?
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                                                                                      • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:42 am ET)
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                                                                                        More ducking. And I never said you had ducked a previous question that prompted my original Palestinian question.
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                                                                                        • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:47 am ET)
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                                                                                          You didn't say I had ducked a previous question?
                                                                                          You had already ducked. Try to pay attention.
                                                                                          "Already" would refer, by definition, to a previous question.
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                                                                                          • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:52 am ET)
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                                                                                            Yep, the original question on the matter.
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                                                                                            • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:54 am ET)
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                                                                                              Well, which is it? Did I supposedly duck a previous question or not? By saying "the original question" you're admitting that there was a previous question.
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                                                                                              • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:57 am ET)
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                                                                                                You sure did. Try to pay attention.
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                                                                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:00 am ET)
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                                                                                                  Because I know a hypocrite when I see one. Told you so.
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                                                                                                • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 1:01 am ET)
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                                                                                                  So when you said you didn't say I had ducked a previous question, you were either confused or lying. And are you referring to when you asked someone else that "original" question?
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                                                                                                  • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:10 am ET)
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                                                                                                    No, I said you ducked the original question after it was asked, not before it was asked, liar. Look at the dodge I teased out of you. And I have been proven right. You're still a hypocrite.
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                                                                                                    • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 1:16 am ET)
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                                                                                                      That made no sense at all. You claimed you didn't accuse me of ducking a previous question, then you claimed I did. That has nothing to do with "after it was asked" or "before". And again, did you ask me the "original question" or someone else?
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                                                                                                      • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:23 am ET)
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                                                                                                        Again, you ducked in your response, not before the question was asked of you, obviously. You wouldn't go anywhere near the Palestinian issue. You still won't. Try to pay attention.
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                                                                                                        • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 6:36 am ET)
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                                                                                                          Now we're making progress. So what question did I "duck" that you were referring to when you said I "already" did so, then?
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                                                                                                          Now we're making progress. So what question did I "duck" that you were referring to when you said I "already" did so, then?
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                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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                                                    What you said made no sense whatsoever, and I explained why. Hence, "completely confused" was specific to your posts, not a commentary on your general being. That's actually giving you the benefit of the doubt, also, since the alternative is intentional dishonesty.

                                                    You haven't responded to this:
                                                    Even if I modify it to "any other respectable thin black person" ("skinny"? Is he emaciated, or just fit, honestly?), do you have a response? Is anyone, of any other race, likely to be called a "ghetto crackhead" just because they're in good shape? Not just "crackhead", but "ghetto", which I dare you to deny is strongly associated with race.
                                                    Did you honestly think you responded to that, or are you lying? By all means, let me know, so I don't wrongly assume the best of you.
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                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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                                                  You're brain is fried. That's no joke.
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                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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                                                    Ad hominem.

                                                    Why can't you answer the question? "Is that your position?" It's clear and relevant to the post you demanded a response to.
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                                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:21 pm ET)
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                                                      That's specific to your mental condition. And you just didn't like my answer.
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                                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:28 pm ET)
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                                                        No, it's a personal attack, not addressing the argument.

                                                        What was your answer, specifically, and how did it relate to what I quoted? Thank you in advance.
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                                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:31 pm ET)
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                                                          Calling someone completely confused is not addressing the argument.
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                                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:35 pm ET)
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                                                            It is when your argument is completely disconnected from what you were responding to, obviously. Did you not say I was on "bad acid"? What would you call that, exactly?
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                                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:41 pm ET)
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                                                              It is pointing out you are completely disconnected from reality, obviously.
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                                                              • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:44 pm ET)
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                                                                Well, you can't have it both ways. If what I did was an ad hominem, then what you did was as well. Ergo, you are identifying yourself as a hypocrite.
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                                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:49 pm ET)
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                                                                  No, I am using irony to point out you are a hypocrite. You can't have it both ways. You raised the ad hominem thing, not me.
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                                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:58 pm ET)
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                                                                    No, because what I did wasn't an ad hominem, for reasons that have been adequately explained for any rational person. Note "if what I did..." above.

                                                                    Your false equivalence is not effective.
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                                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:38 pm ET)
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                                                          Go back and read my answer, and respond to it. Thank you in advance.
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                                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:40 pm ET)
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                                                            Honestly, I think I've responded to all your posts. Please tell me what you're talking about, so I know what you consider your response to be.
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                                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:43 pm ET)
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                                                              Tell me what you're talking about, so I know what you consider your response to be.
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                                                              • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:47 pm ET)
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                                                                If you didn't know what I was talking about, how did you know what your answer to it was? That makes no sense.

                                                                It's really not that hard to figure out, but I'll help you out:
                                                                You seem to be saying that something can't be racist if it only mentions one person, and doesn't explicitly specify the entire race. Is that your position?
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                                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:53 pm ET)
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                                                                  It's your answer to my answer that you need to clarify. And I already answered your question. Go back and read.
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                                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 23, 2011 11:59 pm ET)
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                                                                    I genuinely don't know what you're referring to, and I'm being perfectly polite in asking for clarification. You have absolutely no valid reason to obfuscate further.
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                                                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:02 am ET)
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                                                                      As I pointed out, you just didn't like my answer.
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                                                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:03 am ET)
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                                                                        Which was what?
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                                                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:04 am ET)
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                                                                          Go back and read.
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                                                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:05 am ET)
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                                                                            I did, and I don't see it. What reason do you have not to simply cut and paste, as I've done for you?
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                                                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:10 am ET)
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                                                                              Waste of time. Same questions would still get asked over and over with claims of not being able to understand.
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                                                                              • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:16 am ET)
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                                                                                You have nothing to base that on. If you really believe that, then by all means comply with my simple and fair request and give me the opportunity to prove you right.
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                                                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:18 am ET)
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                                                                                  You already have.
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                                                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:21 am ET)
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                                                                                    Again with the bizarre conception of linear time. The same questions "would still get asked" has been demonstrated when you have yet to clarify at all?
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                                                                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:24 am ET)
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                                                                                      Oh, it is all too clear. Try to pay attention.
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                                                                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:31 am ET)
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                                                                                        You make a lot of assertions, but provide nothing to support them.

                                                                                        And if you think I've forgotten the original point that you refuse to address (how ghetto crackhead is racially charged, etc), you're unfamiliar with how well I do pay attention.
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                                                                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:35 am ET)
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                                                                                          You forgot the word "skinny." Try to pay attention.
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                                                                                          • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:39 am ET)
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                                                                                            The original point is that Bozell's comment is racist. The posts that I'm specifying that you refuse to address were made after you harped on "skinny" repeatedly. Go back and read, or I can cut and paste again if you need.
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                                                                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:45 am ET)
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                                                                                              You just didn't like my answer.
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                                                                                              • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 12:51 am ET)
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                                                                                                You refuse to cite your answer, therefore you can not claim to have provided one.

                                                                                                Like I said, you can play games all you want, but you have no argument. Thanks for proving the point.
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                                                                                                • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 12:55 am ET)
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                                                                                                  As I already pointed out, you just didn't like my answer.
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                                                                                                  • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:05 am ET)
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                                                                                                    Maybe he noticed that you proffer flatulent drivel to each and every venue in lieu of intellectual engagement.
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                                                                                                  • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 1:13 am ET)
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                                                                                                    I'll be back later, in the meantime I would again encourage you to review your posts and think about the propriety of your behavior. If your goal was to prove yourself incapable of having a rational discussion, you could hardly do better.
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                                                                                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:14 am ET)
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                                                                                                      Attack and run. What a coward!
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                                                                                                      • Author by Brabantio (December 24, 2011 6:44 am ET)
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                                                                                                        So the person who makes multiple assertions and refuses to support them, as well as personal attacks, says that the person who did back up what they said for four hours and then goes to bed at one in the morning is a "coward".

                                                                                                        That's fairly psychotic, by any measure.
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                                      • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:02 am ET)
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                                        You need to buck up and take your medicine like a girl.
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                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:12 am ET)
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                                          Hey, the alcoholic pedophile is back.
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                                          • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:17 am ET)
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                                            Merry Christmas you sexy thing! I hope you have on that pink nighty I love so much!
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                                          • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:21 am ET)
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                                            How is that struggle to expose Mr. Obama as a naughty arms-dealer going? It sorta looks as if you had your ass handed to you!
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                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:34 am ET)
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                                              You don't know any more about the issue than he does. And get your daughter's face out of your rear, drunkard.
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                                              • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:52 am ET)
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                                                Is this the part where I am supposed to be angry? Heehee, you simply must try harder, these guys are sorta spanking your butt! Mr. Obama is not the heavy you make him out to be, get a life. Kisses!
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                                              • Author by jonimacaroni1 (December 25, 2011 8:03 pm ET)
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                                                The above string is an example of a troll being fed by someone who clearly needed someone else to tell them to stop feeding the troll. A troll who had no intention of being a fair-minded and reasonable person in any discussion about the issues being written about in this string or even addressing the topic of the Media Matters article.

                                                This is for those who baselessly claim that no one here ever needs to be told to not feed a troll.
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                                                • Author by Brabantio (December 25, 2011 8:38 pm ET)
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                                                  I think the better point is that you have no authority, Joni, so nobody has to listen to your repetitive complaints. If you don't like to read it, don't read it. I found it to be an entertaining exercise in psychology and logic, besides establishing that Bozell has no defense whatsoever.

                                                  I was hoping you would get a sense of perspective regarding your own importance for Christmas, but I suppose there's always next year.
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              • Author by CatsRBigLuv (December 24, 2011 3:39 am ET)
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                4teepee says
                Its called terrorism


                Okay 4teepee, then you will concede that what Fox has been calling Obama everyday for the last three years was at least far worse than what MAtthews called Gingrich?

                Or have you forgotten that quickly?
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              • Author by CatsRBigLuv (December 24, 2011 3:39 am ET)
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                4teepee says
                Its called terrorism


                Okay 4teepee, then you will concede that what Fox has been calling Obama everyday for the last three years was at least far worse than what MAtthews called Gingrich?

                Or have you forgotten that quickly?
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            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 5:38 pm ET)
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              By the way, if racism is the concern, what Bozell said pales in comparison to Obama's treatment of the indigenous Palestinian people.
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              • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 5:58 pm ET)
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                Do you understand the difference between what someone does and what someone is?
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                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 9:39 pm ET)
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                  Do you understand that actions speak louder than words?
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                  • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 9:55 pm ET)
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                    I guess you don't or otherwise, you wouldn't keep changing the subject. Try to stay on topic.
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                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:06 pm ET)
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                      I guess you don't understand actions speak louder than words.
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                      • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:08 pm ET)
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                        I do, but I also understand that you can't speak on topic.
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                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:12 pm ET)
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                          You just don't like the answer.
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                          • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:16 pm ET)
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                            Whether I like the answer or not is irrelevant. This is about what Bozell said about Obama and you are consistently UNABLE TO SPEAK ON IT.
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                            • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:25 pm ET)
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                              Oh, I speak on it. What you object to is the context. That is what you do not want me to mention.
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                              • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:26 pm ET)
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                                Okay, speak on what Bozell said. Is it racist?
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                                • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:31 pm ET)
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                                  It is unclear since it requires one to infer. Is what Chris Matthews said that began this not as bad as what Bozell said? Why or why not?
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                                  • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 10:39 pm ET)
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                                    One more thing. Is Obama's racism toward the Palestinians less bad than what Bozell said?
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                                  • Author by mary59 (December 23, 2011 10:51 pm ET)
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                                    Stomping teepee,

                                    Comparisons like this and endless arguments are part of why there is no peace in the Middle East. You don't understand that you're part of the problem.

                                    There is no reason to give any degree of credence to the odious remarks of Bozo.
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                                  • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:54 pm ET)
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                                    Again, this is not about what someone does but about what someone is. If you can't speak on the subject matter...
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                                  • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 10:57 pm ET)
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                                    Actually. Wait. It's "unclear" whether what Bozell said was racist? WHAT?!?!!?
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                                    • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:09 pm ET)
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                                      Quit ducking. How do you feel about Obama's racism toward the Palestinians?
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                                      • Author by danielsangeo (December 23, 2011 11:22 pm ET)
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                                        Okay, it's apparent that you are completely ducking this issue. I'm done.
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                                        • Author by 4teepee (December 23, 2011 11:33 pm ET)
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                                          You're the one running from my question.
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                                          • Author by danielsangeo (December 24, 2011 12:54 am ET)
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                                            Running? Nah. Refusing to answer because it's not pertinent to this subject and I refuse to be a party to your inability to stay on topic.

                                            Goodbye until you grow a pair.
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                                            • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:07 am ET)
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                                              4teepee is a skosh damaged, but really engaging...hahahahahahahahaha
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                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:34 am ET)
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                                              Coward
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                                            • Author by 4teepee (December 24, 2011 1:36 am ET)
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                                              Running because you're too cowardly to address the issue.
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                                              • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 1:55 am ET)
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                                                Have you ever considered the prospect that you are a mercy-fvck at best? Keep being a weenie, Santa will forget where you live!
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                                                • Author by danielsangeo (December 24, 2011 3:10 am ET)
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                                                  At this point, he's just embarrassing himself and trolling for attention. Best to ignore and hope he goes away.
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                                                  • Author by mr. l (December 24, 2011 8:14 am ET)
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                                                    WOW!!

                                                    4peeonyou! You feeling a little masochistic around the holidays? Things getting a little stressful?
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                                                    • Author by heehee..santorum (December 24, 2011 9:58 am ET)
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                                                      egg-nog allergy is my guess, teepee is usually so warm and accommodating.....
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      • Author by CatsRBigLuv (December 24, 2011 3:36 am ET)
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        Please 4teepee,

        I might concede that what Matthews called GIngrich was uncalled for, but Fox and Bozell have made lucrative careers out of calling Obama far worse things and you know that.

        Its rather disingenuous for someone on Fox to claim that Hannity would be taken off the air for calling Obama such and such, when in fact Fox and MRC have made a daily practice out of calling Obama a Nazi.

        Please, have you forgotten the Glenn Beck show THAT quickly...
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    • Author by southrnbelle4939 (December 23, 2011 5:13 pm ET)
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      Once again, Fox Spews is a shining example of Christian love and dignity.

      Pathetic.
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    • Author by XConserve (December 23, 2011 8:45 pm ET)
         
      I no longer watch Fox - I get enough of their vitriol on this site. But all of them are embarrassments to the political process, and do not deserve either the attention they get, or their salaries.
      I kind of understand the "pay to hate" bit, but they enjoy being deceitful and mean.
      I believe Fox has no right to the title "NEWS".
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    • Author by CatsRBigLuv (December 24, 2011 3:31 am ET)
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      Good gawd, Bozell and Fox are so hypocritical and even more disingenuous... quelle surprise!

      Bozell tries to make the case that it was wrong to say Gingrich looks like a car-bomber. Okay, I can agree... i honestly think Gingrich looks more like a creepy pedophile in a windowless van, but i wouldnt make it part of a news commentary.

      But for Bozell to say that Sean Hannity would be shut down for calling Obama names... i mean its just flat out dishonest.

      What regular Fox contributors call Barak Obama every day is FAR worse than what Chris Matthews called Newt Gingrich. And Bozell KNOWS that.

      Hell, what they call him everyday is even far worse than calling him a ghetto crackhead. (and honestly, with that dead-fish, beary eyed stare, Bozell true looks like one methed up, cracked out blazer with a hundred dollar a day habit... seriously, look at that lifeless blotch in his eyes.)

      I mean come on, the network made its money by calling him and everyone who supports him a Nazi. Glenn Beck made it a point to repeat that FAR more than 4 times a day. Thats a pretty bad slander, far worse than just a generic car-bomber jab.

      And Fox news contributors HAVE called Obama a terrorist, and furtively try to draw some fictious link between him and terorist groups.

      I mean come on dude, this even happened right when the guy was first elected.

      Chekc out the link... how LESS worse is this than what Matthews called Gingrich? And how many times over the passed 3 years has Fox senselessly repeated the claim?
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    • Author by mercado (December 24, 2011 11:19 am ET)
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      What are the odds Bozell is "Deep in the closet?'
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 24, 2011 1:07 pm ET)
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      Rodger,The Suits at fox news,and Brent Bozo are all slipping real bad at their game...Rodger knows that by his rules that anytime someone says something like this about President Obama on fox news,the words must come out of a black persons mouth,or a known idiot like Eric Bolling...I guess because Herman Cain,and others who meet Rodger's central casting call for the role to say this were off for the holidays.. Brent Bozell,with assistance from Mary Steyn figured they could pull it off...They blew it...The same idiot who had to work over the holidays at fox news Sean Hannity show blew it again this year......This stunt will not stop the now long term trend of Sean Hannity's dropping ratings..........I wonder how companies who pay to sponsor the Sean Hannity show feel about spending money to sponsor a show that pulls stunts like this to increase its dropping ratings to cover lies told to advertisers about its audience size??????....I wonder how many of these companies feel the same way about President Obama as Brent Bozo..I wonder if Rodger has let Brent Bozo beg money from some of fox news advertisers for his fake propaganda foundation that does propaganda hit jobs for Rodger???............It looks like I am going to have to find time to watch fox news,Sean Hannity show to make a list of his advertisers,post their names,and see how proud they are of Sean Hannity,and and his friends,and how they feel about things...Sean Hannity knew this was going to be said..Stuff like this has been staged with substitutes of fox news Sean Hannity show before......Tucker Carlson drew the short straw to do a fox news keep a show's core audience allegiance stunt with his comments about Michael Vick while substituting for Sean Hannity over the holidays last year..............Sean Hannity can say his audience has temporary increased by one.That is the only way I can make a list of his advertisers to post them..It is going to cost him some advertisers ....Everything done,and said on air at fox news by a fox news employee is always very carefully stage crafted propaganda
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 24, 2011 1:50 pm ET)
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        This is another case of fox news,and republican party radio,the two drunk people trying to prop each other ss they throw-up on each other........Republican party radio has been playing the president is a crack-head cheer real hard for the past week,or two..The creditable expert republican party radio witness on the matter has flunked a lie detector on everything he said on air,and admits it........
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    • Author by danielsangeo (December 24, 2011 11:56 pm ET)
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      For everyone that celebrates Christmas, I hope you have a very Merry Christmas! I'll see you afterwards! :)
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    • Author by villabolo (December 25, 2011 7:43 am ET)
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      In an alternative Earth where poetic justice is meted out this would be Brent Bozell's punishment.

      He would be kidnapped, shaved and tattooed from head to toe - in black. The word RACIST would be tattooed on his forehead in white. He would then be forced to ssmoke crack until he's addicted.

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      • Author by altsoba (December 25, 2011 10:57 am ET)
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        Ah yes tattoo him with the word RACIST. Why not do the same to anyone else that critizes Obama. The left call anyone that critizes Obama for his failed administration a racist. Why is it that if you critized Bush and called him names the left seen you as patriotic but any criticism of Obama makes you a racist? Obama is nothing but a lying azz hole and deserves what he gets.
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        • Author by Brabantio (December 25, 2011 11:22 am ET)
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          Do all criticisms of Obama involve terms like "ghetto crackhead"?

          If not, then why would you suggest that criticism of Bozell's comments here are equivalent to all criticisms?

          Go ahead and try to claim that Bozell isn't coming across as a flaming racist. Please.
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        • Author by danielsangeo (December 25, 2011 2:46 pm ET)
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          The left call anyone that critizes Obama for his failed administration a racist.


          No.
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        • Author by villabolo (December 25, 2011 6:22 pm ET)
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          "Why not do the same to anyone else that critizes Obama. The left call anyone that critizes Obama for his failed administration a racist."

          Let's see if you have the mental/moral capacity to understand an analogy:

          "Hey Abe! I disagree with your policies you skinny, anorexic wretch."

          "I totally disagree with you, you fat slob."

          "I have a different opinion than that pathetic Chink."

          By the way, altsoba, are you one of those four eyes?
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    • Author by altsoba (December 25, 2011 11:04 am ET)
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      I don't think Obama looks like a skinny ghetto crackhead, well maybe a little. I think he looks like Steve Urkel. The resemblance is uncanny. See the photo in the link below.


      Obama as Steve Urkel
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (December 25, 2011 2:32 pm ET)
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        altsoba as Monica Crowley,who after calling President looks like a smart nerd,calls him trash in the........
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    • Author by blueman1 (December 25, 2011 6:18 pm ET)
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      Bozell's dislike for Obama seems irrational and personal. I think at some point in his life he found himself on the business end of some black man's you know what and he's pretty bitter about it.
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