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When It Comes To American Ideals, Limbaugh Is Not On Reagan's Team

January 26, 2012 10:58 am ET by Kevin Zieber

Rush Limbaugh criticized the president for invoking teamwork as an American ideal in the State of the Union address -- an ideal that was invoked by Ronald Reagan during his 1984 State of the Union address.

Limbaugh's ire was directed at the portion of President Obama's State of the Union address in which he spoke about teamwork making America great, an idea Limbaugh said was "wrong" and contrary to "what our founding documents are about." Limbaugh explained:

There's nothing about teamwork. There's nothing about compromise and getting along and working together. 

Teamwork, Limbaugh made clear, was another word for fairness -- "a code word for class warfare."

LISTEN:

Limbaugh's position that teamwork was contrary to American ideals puts him at odds with Ronald Reagan, who praised teamwork and pulling together during his State of the Union address in 1984:  

Our second great goal is to build on America's pioneer spirit - I said something funny? I said America's next frontier - and that's to develop that frontier. A sparkling economy spurs initiatives, sunrise industries, and makes older ones more competitive.

Nowhere is this more important than our next frontier: space. Nowhere do we so effectively demonstrate our technological leadership and ability to make life better on Earth. The Space Age is barely a quarter of a century old. But already we've pushed civilization forward with our advances in science and technology. Opportunities and jobs will multiply as we cross new thresholds of knowledge and reach deeper into the unknown.

Our progress in space - taking giant steps for all mankind - is a tribute to American teamwork and excellence. Our finest minds in government, industry, and academia have all pulled together. And we can be proud to say: We are first; we are the best; and we are so because we're free.

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    • Author by Bongo Fury (January 26, 2012 11:02 am ET)
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      To Limpy, there is an "I" in teamork. The word "me".
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 27, 2012 2:02 am ET)
           
        And the reason is - - - - - Blimpy who is so huge assumes he makes up the entire team!
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    • Author by beDecent (January 26, 2012 11:07 am ET)
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      There's nothing in the founding documents about screwing over your fellow Americans just to make a buck, either. Or letting them die in the street, or letting them and their children go hungry, or subscribing to one religion, or speaking one language, or ____ ___ ________ (fill in the blanks).

      The founding documents created a nation of people, together. Isn't togetherness implied by the very virtue of the documents?
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    • Author by MidnightWriter (January 26, 2012 11:11 am ET)
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      "There's nothing about teamwork. There's nothing about compromise and getting along and working together."

      "[i]We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America[./i]"

      Get bent, fathead.
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      • Author by David2012 (January 26, 2012 12:04 pm ET)
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        "We must, indeed, all hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."

        Benjamin Franklin

        "Thus the great and hazardous enterprise we have been engaged in is, God be praised, happily completed. A few years of peace will improve, will restore and increase our strength; but our future will depend on our union and our virtue. Let us, therefore, beware of being lulled into a dangerous security: and of being both enervated and impoverished by luxury; of being weakened by internal contentions and divisions."

        Benjamin Franklin

        "The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism."

        George Washington

        "Among the numerous advantages promised by a well constructed Union, none deserves to be more accurately developed than its tendency to break and control the violence of faction. The friend of popular governments never finds himself so much alarmed for their character and fate, as when he contemplates their propensity to this dangerous vice. He will not fail, therefore, to set a due value on any plan which, without violating the principles to which he is attached, provides a proper cure for it."

        The Federalist, No. 10
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    • Author by m.welker (January 26, 2012 11:13 am ET)
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      Fairness = class warfare? What the flying f***?


      I can only imagine a young, yet still alarmingly fat, Limbaugh getting caught cheating at Candyland and coming up with that argument. Talk about a guy who should have ended up reading gas meters or mopping up the booths in a porno shop.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 11:41 am ET)
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        And "teamwork" = "warfare". Working together = fighting each other. Using the complete opposite of things makes sense as code words to this idiot.

        And these are the people who LOL at the idea that all of their racist dog-whistles are slightly disguised code words.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:25 am ET)
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      There's nothing about teamwork. There's nothing about compromise and getting along and working together.

      There you have it, folks. The de facto head of the Republican Party has just dropped his pants and told the country to kiss his butt.

      No democratic form of Government can function without cooperation. What Blimpy is describing is a Plutocracy, Oligarchy or Dictatorship.

      And, please, you Troglodytes can spare me the admonition that this is a Republic, not a Democracy. We all know that, and it doesn't change the premise.
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      • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 11:30 am ET)
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        This whole post funny pictures on MMfA is my new go to move
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        • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:33 am ET)
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          I miss the days when we could post them here. It made the site much more colorful.
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      • Author by bintx (January 26, 2012 11:33 am ET)
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        Just goes to the point I've made repeatedly. These people are not conservatives, they are authoritarians. Rush is an authoritarian dominant and the Dittoheads are followers. They are crazy.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:37 am ET)
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          More like a Cult than a Political Party.
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          • Author by bintx (January 26, 2012 12:09 pm ET)
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            Authoritarianism is a function of the brain. It's bizarre. It can be seen on the left and the right, but it's more prominent in folks who identify themselves as being from "the right." John Dean wrote about these folks in his book "Conservatives without Conscience." They are the 25% who still believe that George W. Bush was the best president EVER and the ones who have deified Ronald Reagan. Why? Because the authoritarian dominants tell them that this is what they are to believe. They will look at factual information and completely discount it simply because it does not comport with what they've been told they are to believe. They'll claim to believe in Christian values and tenets while supporting platforms which are the antithesis of the teachings of Christ. They do not see the contradiction at all.

            Bizarre.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 11:38 am ET)
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        They've taken that "rugged individualism" nonsense, which is nothing more than compensation and self-esteem boosting for weaklings, to the extreme of condoning a sociopath mentality.

        While Lispy cooperates with his team - the GOP, Fox, Kock Bros., TeaHadists, Troglodyte think tanks and media- he encourages his mush-brained followers to split up and go it alone. And they cheer him on as he laughs at them.
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        • Author by Imbecile (January 26, 2012 11:44 am ET)
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          Which makes me wonder, is sociopathic behavior a genetic defect, or a behavioral adaptation?

          I always thought it was a defect, but it seems that Rusty's followers are proving me wrong.

          I kind of hope that it isn't a learned behavior, because we just might be doomed if it is.
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      • Author by chazmanr (January 26, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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        There's nothing about teamwork. There's nothing about compromise and getting along and working together.


        "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

        Nope not a word about teamwork or cooperation.
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    • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 11:29 am ET)
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      Um you friggin moron, teamwork is illicitly explained in ALL founding documents. What you explained must be founding documents of Nazi Germany.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (January 26, 2012 12:46 pm ET)
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        Lib, you've fallen prey to one of my bete noires. Any time I call someone stupid or moronic, I manage to make a typo or a grammatical error somewhere in the post. I think you meant implicitly.
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        • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 2:55 pm ET)
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          nah, Illicitly. Illegally. totally meant to do that :)
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        • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 2:56 pm ET)
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          I use Opera for my web browser and have an autocorrect widget, yeah I'm going with that excuse.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (January 26, 2012 4:20 pm ET)
               
            Where can I get one of those drooling puppies to follow me around?
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    • Author by MickD (January 26, 2012 11:33 am ET)
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      I guess Ronald Maximus is now Minimumus.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 11:46 am ET)
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        I didn't think the Reagan idolatry could get any worse, but recently I'm feeling almost embarrassed for the GOP schoolgirls gushing over their mythical demigod. To see two grown men arguing about who is the most like their hero ( or the imaginary version of him) is just sad.

        This slobbering has provided some of my biggest laughs over the past few days, next to the elderly adulterer newt accusing everybody else in the world of living in a fantasy, as he explains that his serial wife-abusing makes him more sensitive to the human condition, and brags about what he'll be doing in his second term as president.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:52 am ET)
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          Newt's second term as president? Stop it... you're scaring the children.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 11:58 am ET)
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            I'm not really the superstitious type, but I sometimes feel like I shouldn't laugh at the idea of "president Gingrich". I remind myself that W had 2 terms, and I remember not to overestimate the American electorate.
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            • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 12:13 pm ET)
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              I know what you mean. I think most Democrats are hoping Newt wins the primary, but I keep hearing that old warning, "Be careful what you wish for".

              I'll step out on a limb and say that, all things considered, a President Romney would be more tolerable than a President Gingrich.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 12:24 pm ET)
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                On the bright side, I thought the Trog race was just going to be boring as hell once Perry and Bachmann and Cain were out, but King-of-the-Moon Newt is really filling the crazy vacuum.

                I've never had the opportunity to see his personality in this much volume, I'd always considered him just the typical prickish wingnut, but he is surprising me every day with the lengths of his arrogance and entitlement. He really does seem to have one set of rules for newt, and another for mere mortals.

                His telling that Univision interviewer that he had a synapse missing for asking if his hypocritical behavior was hypocritical...stunningly dickish.
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              • Author by Conchobhar (January 26, 2012 4:27 pm ET)
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                "Be careful what you wish for".
                Yep. I told that, years ago, to other tenants in a beautiful building I lived in on NYC's Upper West Side. They were thrilled when our landlord sold out to a foreign-owned holding company, because "they couldn't be worse." My position was that, as bad as this guy was, he was a treasure, because he wasn't burdened with genius, and every time we fought him, we won. This holding company would have a battery of lawyers and would be much harder to deal with. It didn't take three months for my neighbors to realize I'd been right.
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    • Author by Lamar15 (January 26, 2012 11:35 am ET)
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      He's right just look at any history book and it will tell you we won WW2 because of outstanding personal achievement.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:35 am ET)
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      Not that any of Blimpy's listeners could use logic, but this whole argument is absurd. If they would bother to read a history of the Constitutional Convention, they'd discover that there was a lot of compromising and working together involved.
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      • Author by dazednamused (January 26, 2012 7:10 pm ET)
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        No, Nerz ... you are wrong, sir. Rusty told me so and I don't need any proof other than that (sticks tongue out like a 4-year-old).
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    • Author by Imbecile (January 26, 2012 11:37 am ET)
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      I would suggest to Rusty that the opening words--We the people--explicitly promote the idea of teamwork.

      One of these days, I pray that we come out of this Soma haze we've been in and toss people like Rusty into the dustbin of an embarrassing chapter in our history.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:39 am ET)
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      Okay... I said earlier that the condemnation of healthy school lunches was the height of Republican Stupidity... I was wrong.

      Demonizing the very concept of cooperation and teamwork has to be even more delusional.

      I'm guessing that this is another one of Blimpy's triumphal demonstrations of just how stupid his fans are.
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      • Author by Imbecile (January 26, 2012 11:42 am ET)
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        Okay... I said earlier that the condemnation of healthy school lunches was the height of Republican Stupidity... I was wrong.


        I think there's a danger in ever calling anything the height of Republican Stupidity, because each day they seem to prove us wrong.
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        • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 11:49 am ET)
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          Last night, round about 10pm I was reading some thread where you and JamesB got into it, all I could say to myself was "da*m I wish I coulda got in on this" It was friggin awesome
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          • Author by Imbecile (January 26, 2012 11:53 am ET)
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            Sadly, I think those days may be behind us. He's blacklisted me and refuses to respond to me anymore.

            Of course, I'm still going to pester him every chance I get.
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            • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 11:59 am ET)
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              I saw he said he wasn't responding to you anymore, I was laughing to myself quite a bit.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 12:04 pm ET)
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              Sometimes I don't appreciate the humor at the time, while I'm posting, but I've run across some old threads where I wasn't commenting, and the idiocy of the trolls really shines when read as an entire timeline.

              I saw one a week or so ago, where a poster ( N'est Ce pas, maybe) used the term "Koch-sucker". Jimmy decided he was going to pretend this was homophobic and a slur, and he tried to cling to that for his entire shift.

              Those are the ones that crack me up, donutluvver and muffie are good for that too. They lash out impulsively with some attempted "gotcha", and no matter how badly it's laughed out of the room, they will not let go.And when people keep poking them to see how desperately they'll stay with it, they imagine they're "winning".
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              • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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                I've just been laughing at koch-sucker this whole time!
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              • Author by Imbecile (January 26, 2012 12:27 pm ET)
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                There was also a thread a couple weeks ago where altsoba began by calling someone an idiot, and then proceeded to spend his entire comment talking about how Obama was quitting in Afganastan[sic].

                Once is (barely) a typo, 4 times in a comment is a stupid.
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                • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 12:40 pm ET)
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                  It's cute when they call their illiteracy "typos". I like altsoba, he's got that winning combination of really stupid and condescending. I was almost in tears when he went hook,line and sinker for the latest O'Keefe videos, he was so frustrated that nobody else could see the voter fraud.
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                  • Author by kabniel (January 26, 2012 7:12 pm ET)
                       
                    I think it is pretty obvious I consider trollstabbing a moral imperative but when they go full bore stupid like alt or james do so ofter the entertainment value just shoots through the roof
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                • Author by bintx (January 26, 2012 1:42 pm ET)
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                  I loved blue saccha's attempted insult to the IQ of another poster and used the word "intelijent." Just made me laugh out loud.
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                  • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 26, 2012 4:58 pm ET)
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                    Ha ha, I know what you mean, I try not to mention typos or minor misspellings, but it's always hard to resist them when they're in the sentence calling others stupid.

                    I've seen more than one snarky, sarcastic "genious".
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        • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:50 am ET)
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          That's a good point. They just keep on digging.
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    • Author by Dem02020 (January 26, 2012 11:43 am ET)
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      Irrational and blind hatred: it's not exactly attractive, politically or socially.

      All you have to do is call it what it is and to it's face: irrational and blind hatred.

      Most folks aren't that way and consider it out-of-bounds both socially and politically, and so to neglect to call it what it is and to instead respond rationally and debate policy with these people...

      You do them a favor, you play right into their scheme, you validate and affirm their irrational and blind hatred, by not identifying it and not quarantining it, and so it infects and inflames others when it goes unchecked by way of going unidentified...

      Irrational and blind hatred for the President: start calling it what it is, in public and in a loud and clear voice.

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    • Author by CAL (January 26, 2012 11:52 am ET)
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      Limbaugh and The Right's Reagan fetish is hilarious. Here is the reality. The Repubs haven't had a galvinizing figurehead for the better part of three decades. The Right LOVES figureheads and all things simplistic. So....they figure they can fool themselves and others by inventing a fantasy portrait of the last Repub two-term President they feel safe to claim. Reagan becomes their hero, savior, fantasized ideal, Yoda, Santa Claus, etc, all rolled into one. The fact that Reagan's actual record and actions don't remotely match The Right's fantastical, fantisized version of St. Ronnie are completely irrelevent. The Limbaugh's of the world can sleep better at night, knowing they've paid homage and pleasured themselves to the fantastical fantasy version of Reagan they've created solely to convince themselves their political viewpoint is valid.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 11:55 am ET)
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        They've tried to do the same with Newt, lionizing him for ushering in the first Troglodyte Majority in 40 years. Unfortunately, Newt proved to be a corrupt toad, forced to resign in disgrace. That inconvenient historical fact has made it difficult to immortalize him.
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        • Author by politeradical (January 26, 2012 6:25 pm ET)
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          They're working hard to whitewash Newt's fall from grace into a story of redemption. The Hamster talks about it constantly (to hand wave away Newt's corrupt, immoral record).

          I mean how could Newt still be the nasty adulterous toad who was the first Speaker in history to resign for unethical behavior? He wrote a book about it. Must be true.
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      • Author by Conchobhar (January 27, 2012 2:21 pm ET)
           
        Limbaugh and The Right's Reagan fetish is hilarious.
        It's no longer just a fetish. The Teabaglican Party is now a full-blown cult.
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    • Author by chazmanr (January 26, 2012 12:00 pm ET)
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      "We the People in order to form a more perfect UNION..."
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    • Author by shaggles (January 26, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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      It's never been clear what team Rush plays for.
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      • Author by Liberal in the South (January 26, 2012 12:26 pm ET)
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        Dominican little league team?
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        • Author by Conchobhar (January 26, 2012 12:51 pm ET)
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          He tried to buy one of those,too.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 26, 2012 1:17 pm ET)
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          Well, you know that thing where the team captains grab the bat handle, and whoever gets their hand on the knob goes first? Coach Blimpy has his own special version of that...
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          • Author by dazednamused (January 26, 2012 7:23 pm ET)
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            You may have just burned that image permanently into my brain. Shame on you!
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 26, 2012 1:03 pm ET)
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        Not in the Nude Oiled Spartan Wreslting Confrence, Zeppillin Division?
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    • Author by Brabantio (January 26, 2012 1:02 pm ET)
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      And I'm completely convinced that Limbaugh didn't criticize Democrats in Congress for not giving Bush 43 everything he ever asked for.

      This seems like one of those things where later on Limbaugh will realize that he should have said something like "Obama doesn't really mean that" instead of actually saying that teamwork is not what makes America great. It seems like such a moronic knee-jerk reaction that he had to be able to come up with something better if he had thought about it beforehand.
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    • Author by Ema_Nymton (January 26, 2012 1:04 pm ET)
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      .

      "Limbaugh's position that teamwork was ..." Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (Sorry) ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

      Forgive me. I was going to Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      oh stop. I just want to say, Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

      Wait a minute.

      Ema Nymton
      ~@;O?
      .
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      • Author by Ema_Nymton (January 26, 2012 1:10 pm ET)
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        .

        I'm back. Sorry about that. I am ok.

        Now as I was say, Limbaughski ... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

        Oh stop. I can get through this. Really.

        Where was I? Oh yea. Lim... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

        A thing as important as Trash Limbaughski pontificating on teamwork FOR USA is (giggle giggle giggle) Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

        Oh to heck with it.

        Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...

        Ema Nymton
        ~@:o?
        .
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    • Author by yoiksaway (January 26, 2012 5:58 pm ET)
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      "There's nothing about compromise and getting along and working together."--RL

      Limbaugh would have been much more at ease if he would have instead tuned in to President Obama's State of the Individual speech.
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    • Author by politeradical (January 26, 2012 6:03 pm ET)
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      Greedy anarcho-capitalist idiot at work.

      The differences between today's so-called Reagan conservatives and their deity could just about fill up the Grand Canyon.
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    • Author by politeradical (January 26, 2012 6:07 pm ET)
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      The Republican party as led by Tubby is poised to fall off the cliff into Ayn Rand objectivist la la land.

      Or maybe they're already there.
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    • Author by kh510 (January 26, 2012 7:19 pm ET)
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      E Pluribus Unum.

      'nuff said.
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      • Author by dazednamused (January 26, 2012 7:28 pm ET)
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        And since Limpy is such a big fan of our military, let's add this:

        Semper Fidelis ("Always Faithful" or "Always Loyal")

        Sounds like teamwork to me.
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        • Author by progressiveright (January 27, 2012 12:01 am ET)
             
          Rush how about the Constitution being nothing but one big compromise composed of many smaller compromises.
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    • Author by yankeefan19252745 (January 27, 2012 5:53 pm ET)
         
      During the American Revolution General Howe, and his Tories, occupied Wall Street.
      General Washington, and his ragtag army of Patriots, countered with Beaumarchais!
      Benjamin Franklin was an ambassador to France.
      John Paul Jones captained the BONHOMME RICHARDS.
      Who won?
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