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Wash. Times' Kuhner: Obama "Has Declared War On The Catholic Church And Religious Liberty"

January 26, 2012 11:55 pm ET by Media Matters staff

In his January 26 Washington Times column, titled "Obama threatens religious liberty: Mandating contraception coverage violates the Christian conscience," Jeffrey Kuhner wrote that because of his "deep contempt for Christianity and democracy," President Obama "has declared war on the Catholic Church and religious liberty," a reference to a recent decision by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) to not exempt certain religious institutions from a mandate that health insurance plans cover contraception and women's reproductive health. Kuhner further wrote that Obama is a "militant secularist" whose "aim is to purge religion from the public square."

From the Times:

Like many leftists, President Obama has deep contempt for Christianity and democracy. This is why his administration has declared war on the Catholic Church and religious liberty. 

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius recently went ahead and approved last year's decision to mandate that many religious organizations provide health insurance plans to their employees that include contraception, abortion-inducing drugs and sterilization coverage -- and this must be done without charging a co-pay. In other words, Mr. Obama has done something that is ominous and unprecedented: compelling religious groups to embrace and subsidize free birth control. Catholic universities, hospitals and charities must either betray their fundamental social teachings or drop insurance coverage for their employees, thereby triggering massive financial penalties under Obamacare. The choice is simple: Abandon Catholic doctrine or go out of business. 

[...] 

Mr. Obama is the most radical president in our history. He is spearheading a liberal social revolution, not just an economic one. He supported partial-birth abortion -- the heinous procedure of killing babies just before they are to be delivered. His administration refuses to uphold the Defense of Marriage Act. He has enabled homosexuals to serve openly in the military, transforming the armed forces into a vast laboratory for social engineering. His signature legislation, Obamacare, allows for the federal funding of abortion. Hence, Christians will be forced to have their tax dollars subsidize the mass murder of unborn children -- a direct attack on their most basic religious tenets. He is making Christians complicit in infanticide. 

[...]

Mr. Obama is a militant secularist. His aim is to purge religion from the public square, forcing it to retreat into the private sphere -- making it nothing more than a personal lifestyle choice. He wants us to leave our faith at the door when engaging in civic life. Yet religion is natural to human beings. The only way radical progressives can forge a secular social order is through a repressive state. 

The Obama administration is eroding the First Amendment, assaulting the conscience rights and religious liberties of Catholics and waging a relentless campaign to destroy America's Judeo-Christian values. Catholics must engage in civil disobedience. Otherwise, Mr. Obama will succeed in dismantling our republic. Today, he is coming for us. Tomorrow, it will be you.

Previously:

Doocy: With Birth Control Rules, "Is [Obama] Provoking An Unnecessary War With America's Religious Leaders?"

Guilfoyle: Contraception Regulation Part Of Obama's Alleged "War Against The Catholic Church"

Fox Uses Contraception Regulation To Push Obama Anti-Catholic Smear

Conservative Media Are Still Pretending That Catholics Don't Support Insurance Coverage For Contraception

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    • Author by 17andLiberal (January 27, 2012 12:12 am ET)
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      Mr. Obama is a militant secularist.

      Which echoes the claims of "secular humanists", "militant homosexuals", "black nationalists", etc. of previous decades. The fact that their imagined widespread leftist conspiracies to take their freedom, brainwash their kids, and destroy America never actually come to fruition (or exist, for that matter) doesn't seem to stop these people from inventing new ones to rile up the base.

      The sad thing is how well it works.
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      • Author by phlcstgan (January 27, 2012 12:23 pm ET)
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        Previous decades? Hell, the Moonie Times still calls people that on a weekly basis.
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      • Author by politeradical (January 27, 2012 1:14 pm ET)
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        Mr. Obama is the most radical president in our history.


        This one stands out for me. Kuhner regularly hits the slander ceiling, busting the hyperbole meter in the first paragraph.

        But old chestnuts like this have a special place in my heart.
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      • Author by Imbecile (January 27, 2012 1:33 pm ET)
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        Sometimes, I have trouble believing you're only 17.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 2:13 pm ET)
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          I have the same problem.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 2:41 pm ET)
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          Funny, I was going to add that 17(unconfirmed)and liberal is so much more thoughtful and intelligent than many of the wingnuts here who claim to be middle-aged or older, when I decided to flip on Lispy Limbaugh's show, a show that is noted often here for being aimed at an audience thinking at about the level of a five year old.

          And the first thing I heard was Lispy explaining to his audience that the reason the president speaks at an eighth grade level is that those are the only people naive enough to believe him..

          Then he misused the word "perfunctory" ( apparently his word-of-the-week), a word he misused at least three times in a single clip at this site yesterday.
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        • Author by beDecent (January 27, 2012 2:45 pm ET)
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          I believe it because the username used to be 16andLiberal, then s/he had a birthday. Otherwise, it'd be a pretty elaborate, illogical hoax from someone whose comments are very logical.
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          • Author by nerzog (January 27, 2012 3:37 pm ET)
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            Well, if it's true, it gives me hope for the next generation.
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 4:03 pm ET)
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              We've probably embarrassed 17andliberal by this point, but I feel the same way. I know several other young people, teenage to 20s, who make me very optimistic as well.
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 4:01 pm ET)
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            It was only kidding, and intended as a compliment, that I was being suspicious about his/her age.
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            • Author by Imbecile (January 27, 2012 7:38 pm ET)
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              Yeah, I realized that my comment might not have read as it should.

              My comment was meant to convey the idea that the intelligence her comments display belies her age.
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              • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 11:27 pm ET)
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                Your comment was perfectly clear, I just wanted to make it clear that I was doubting 17/liberal as a joke. And jealousy, because if there was an internets when I was 17, I probably would have written " Gabba gabba Hey" and "fill a bowl!".
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          • Author by 17andLiberal (January 27, 2012 4:25 pm ET)
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            She, and only slightly embarassed :P
            I'm obviously a byproduct of the liberal media bias and those darned public schools filling my head with radical ideas like "sciece" and "reasoning".
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            • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 11:29 pm ET)
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              Didn't anybody warn you? Thanks, you make all of us geezers less worried about the future, and the impending Idiocracy. But stop making us feel like idiots !!

              ps: you spelled "science" wrong. Yeah! Gotcha!! ;0)
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      • Author by David2012 (January 27, 2012 2:10 pm ET)
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        Actually, no, President Obama hasn't declared war on the Roman Catholic church or religious liberty.

        But Sun Myung Moon declared war on all other religions, including Roman Catholicism, decades ago, converting to his cult and brainwashing as many of their adherents as he possibly could in order to take their money and extract profit from their labor. And that is the God's honest truth.
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    • Author by handsomejack54 (January 27, 2012 1:06 am ET)
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      So Kuhner knows how to use big words he got from a thesaurus to yell in a newspaper that loses money every day and hardly anyone reads. Am I supposed to take him seriously?
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    • Author by wookie (January 27, 2012 6:52 am ET)
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      I think the left needs to take this argument and run with it. Have PETA run butcher shops and refuse to serve meat. Get the Brady Campaign to run gun shops that don't sell guns. Might as well go for the whole Monty Python thing.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 27, 2012 7:20 am ET)
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      The irony is that, according to recent studies, a majority of practicing Catholics ignore the Church's ban on birth control.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (January 27, 2012 8:09 am ET)
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        Pollsters have declared war on the Catholic Church and religious liberty.
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      • Author by grmce (January 27, 2012 11:41 am ET)
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        ...the Church's ban on birth control
        There is no doctrinal ban on contraception. The so-called "Vatican Roulette" method wasn't so named for nothing. More to the point, Paul VI's 1968 encyclical Humanae Vitae did not, contrary to popular belief, ban the oral contraceptive. Whilst His Holiness did not feel able to put his imprimatur on the use of "the pill" he left the decision up to the informed conscience of the individual concerned. A lazy media (nothing new there) and certain conservative elements within the Catholic hierarchy combined to create a belief based on misinformation.

        As to healthcare cover, if a treatment or procedure is legal then it must be covered. The problem alluded to is a natural clash where employers get stuck in the game. The safest way to avoid this is to have a publicly funded and therefore secular system.
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    • Author by steeve (January 27, 2012 7:37 am ET)
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      Classic obfuscation tactic -- yell vaguely about 10 things so you can pretend to have a point if the response doesn't destroy all 10. But it's not up to us to filter out the stupid things, it's up to him. Therefore destroying just one of the things from the finished product of this doofus's thinking destroys all 10.

      "He has enabled homosexuals to serve openly in the military, transforming the armed forces into a vast laboratory for social engineering"

      If "open gay people exist" = "laboratory", then we've already been conducting this experiment. It's called "living in the world". That experiment ran for decades and ended successfully years ago. We've let them talk, teach people stuff, drive forklifts, all sorts of things. It worked out okay.
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      • Author by Brabantio (January 27, 2012 10:55 am ET)
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        Anyone who believes that we didn't already have homosexuals in the military is high on smack. It's just a better system now, much more workable than what was there before.

        I will say that there is a difference between open society and the military, however. Dealing with the subculture, the enclosed world of the military changes everything, so it's certainly possible that what works in society doesn't necessarily translate to military life. In this case, though, there's no reason that homosexuals can't work in the military. We already have UCMJ for sexual assault, sexual harassment, etc, so that applies to everyone. There are no unwanted advances to worry about.

        Essentially it's just "the Bible says homosexuality is a sin, so you shouldn't accept them!"
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 2:18 pm ET)
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        yell vaguely about 10 things so you can pretend to have a point if the response doesn't destroy all 10.


        Very popular tactic with right wing website morans... " I notice you didn't refute bullet point #73... thanks for admitting I'm right!!"

        And thanks for giving any wingnuts reading another thing to be scared of - the possibility that some item they've purchased was moved by means of Gay Forklift.
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    • Author by Liberal in the South (January 27, 2012 8:41 am ET)
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      You can take our lives, but stay out of our bedroom!
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    • Author by nerzog (January 27, 2012 9:34 am ET)
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      "...making [religion] nothing more than a personal lifestyle choice."

      Well, I hate to burst a seething Troglodyte's bubble, but that's all it's ever been, in reality. It's just that tyrants over the centuries have used it as a boot on the necks of their subjects, thereby branding it into our cultural identity.

      Fortunately, our Founding Fathers had the wisdom to exclude it from our Government. I guess that makes them militant secularists, too.
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      • Author by Brabantio (January 27, 2012 10:33 am ET)
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        That line is amazing. Just amazing. I've heard the "Christian nation" crap before, but I don't think I've ever seen someone go this far off the deep end about it before.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 2:20 pm ET)
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        I've really offended some religious nuts ( at this site even, I believe) for stating that fact; religion is just an opinion.

        They seem to think that all of the fancy buildings, flamboyant costumes and established rituals make it a more important opinion than others.
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        • Author by nerzog (January 27, 2012 3:34 pm ET)
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          In essence, that's all it is. You can adopt it or abandon it at will. I think the Founders mentioned it in the Constitution because they had seen the history of Religious Wars in Europe, especially the bloody wars between Catholics and Protestants in England.

          Infusing Religion into Government only invites conflict over ridiculously trivial points of superstition.
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        • Author by The_Cat (January 27, 2012 5:08 pm ET)
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          I've really offended some religious nuts ( at this site even, I believe) for stating that fact; religion is just an opinion.

          An opinion, yes, but one based on belief.
          I'm pretty hard to offend, because I'm very sure of my faith, but I'm also a bit of an outcast: a liberal (socially) Christian. So far as I know, you haven't offended me, Andy Kreiss, so I say just keep on calling it like you see it!

          >^o.-^<
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          • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 28, 2012 12:23 pm ET)
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            I tried to be specific with "religious nuts", who are usually the ones not so secure in their faith. They're the ones who don't think their religion is an opinion, but a fact that everybody else should recognize.

            To be clear, even if religion seems nutty to me, I do not think that all believers are nuts. ;0)
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    • Author by neon desert (January 27, 2012 9:36 am ET)
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      I have a really good insurance policy, except for one thing: It covers elective surgery. So now I HAVE to go in and have breast augmentation surgery. That's gonna suck. I'll have to ask my wife help me pick out a bra...
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    • Author by gmccpa (January 27, 2012 10:05 am ET)
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      What is always missing when discussing HEALTH insurance plans is the 'deal' the health insurance industry and employers have with the government/IRS.

      And part of their 'deal' is the government gets to set some of the conditions. If they do not like those conditions...OPT OUT. Instead, they have voluntarily asked for government interference...and now claim they dont like it.

      Where else can people purchase a product with Pre Tax dollars. Do you purchase your car insurance that way? No. Homeowners Insurance? No. You name it..virtually nothing else.

      Health insurers, for the most part, get to market and sell their product BEFORE you take home your net pay. I am not implying that this is wrong...simply noting that this works very well for them. For the employers too. To make up for the tax savings, employers would have to pay their employees more, if the employee were to purchase comparable coverage.

      And if any company does not wish to comply, based on religious issues....just pay your employees the difference, and let them purchase their own insurance. But if they want the benefit of the IRS deduction (and all the SOCIALIST traits of group insurance)...they have to play by the IRS (government) rules. Its not right to ask the government to be any part of their religious restrictions.
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    • Author by Brabantio (January 27, 2012 10:27 am ET)
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      His aim is to purge religion from the public square, forcing it to retreat into the private sphere -- making it nothing more than a personal lifestyle choice. He wants us to leave our faith at the door when engaging in civic life. Yet religion is natural to human beings. The only way radical progressives can forge a secular social order is through a repressive state.

      The Obama administration is eroding the First Amendment, assaulting the conscience rights and religious liberties of Catholics and waging a relentless campaign to destroy America's Judeo-Christian values. Catholics must engage in civil disobedience.
      Holy Christ on a flaming pogo stick.
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
      If Catholics are given favor in policy, then that's no different from Sharia law, as has been pointed out on other threads. "Free exercise" means people of all religions, not just Catholics. As an atheist, I have a right to be free from religion. There's no argument...none...which adequately explains how Catholics must have their views enforced on the public in order for them to maintain them personally.

      And sex is also something which is natural to humans, but we don't have porn shows on the Courthouse lawn. That would be infringing on the rights of those who don't want to see that.

      Just like some people don't want to see your religion, either.
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      • Author by beDecent (January 27, 2012 10:35 am ET)
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        Reminds me of something a friend posted on Facebook a couple weeks ago:
        Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it. But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don't try to shove it down my throat.
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        • Author by Brabantio (January 27, 2012 10:58 am ET)
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          Oh, I know. My wife was dying to post that on FB, but didn't want to get the backlash from the crazy-religious side of her family.

          It's just perfect, though.
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (January 27, 2012 2:34 pm ET)
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        The religious right is completely baffled by the establishment clause. I've heard them, for years now, being spoon-fed the ridiculous idea that it was intended to keep the government from favoring one sect of Christianity over another.

        This latest bit about the contraceptives is so misguided. At the risk of approaching a slippery slope argument, imagine some of the implications.

        There are some religious factions who don't believe in vaccines or many other types of medical procedures. Since ( as discussed above) religion is simply an opinion and a lifestyle choice, requiring no official membership, couldn't an employer avoid covering just about anything if he claimed it didn't jibe with his faith ?
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        • Author by nerzog (January 27, 2012 3:41 pm ET)
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          That's why Separation of Church and State is so important. As bad as our current Congress is, imagine the gridlock if the Teabaggers were arguing over the real nature of The Trinity, or which version of the Creation Story is true.
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          • Author by grmce (January 28, 2012 10:34 am ET)
               
            Or how many Angels can you fit on a pinhead (or the point of Bill O'Reilly's head for that matter).

            As a matter of incontrovertable fact, by the way, the United States of America was not founded on Judeo-Christian principles (although I would contend that Islam was). The U.S. was founded, from Revolution to Constitution, on Enlightenment Principles. Even the contradiction over slavery is reflected in one of The Enlightenment's leading philosophers - John Locke was an investor in the slave trade.
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    • Author by beDecent (January 27, 2012 10:32 am ET)
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      ...making it nothing more than a personal lifestyle choice.
      Excuse me? One's religious beliefs is a personal lifestyle choice. You can't force religion on anyone in this country; thankfully, our Founders had the foresight to include this in our founding documents.

      The only way radical progressives can forge a secular social order is through a repressive state.
      How ironic, claiming "radical progressives" are forging a repressive state while, at the same time, saying it's okay for a single religion to force its beliefs and way of life on individual citizens who do not believe in that religion's doctrine.

      And these people complain about Sharia Law. Hypocrisy, thy name is Kuhner.
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    • Author by pete592 (January 27, 2012 11:01 am ET)
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      "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are. The writ of our Founders must endure."
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    • Author by foole (January 27, 2012 12:47 pm ET)
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      Is it me, or does this column sound an awful lot like one of those old "red scare" pieces that used to be written in the 50s? I mean even down to the last line, "Today, he is coming for us. Tomorrow, it will be you." Kind of unhinged if you ask me.
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    • Author by PBVV (January 27, 2012 12:48 pm ET)
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      This is not about the religious conscience of individual Catholics.
      It is about Big Businesses that are owned and operated under the auspices of The Catholic Church.

      Here in Toledo, Ohio, the seven largest hospitals are all Catholic hospitals.
      They employ hundreds of thousands of people.
      Their Clinics and other healthcare businesses additionally employ hundreds of thousands more.

      Until the new laws, they were exempt from having to pay for contraception for their employees.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 27, 2012 12:58 pm ET)
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      I don't see this (false) attack doing much damage. Religious fanatics are probably not going to vote for him anyway.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 27, 2012 1:24 pm ET)
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        Good point. However, it will certainly motivate Troglodytes who might otherwise lack enthusiasm about voting for a Mormon. Hysterical propaganda like this is designed to convince them that Obama is a Godless heathen who wants to burn down their churches and eat their children, so they'd better get out there and vote for Mittens.
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    • Author by politeradical (January 27, 2012 1:09 pm ET)
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      Says the Michael Weiner fill in. I can see him typing this out, spittle flying from his lips, his face beet red. So righteously indignant over this bit of...nothing.

      So HHS ruled that if an employee of a religious institution wants to purchase contraception that their ESP cover it?

      Looks like pure fascism to me.

      If religious institutions are so worried about it, why not do a better job screening employees so that none of them are prone to engage in this clearly blasphemous conduct?

      *rolls eyes*

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    • Author by politeradical (January 27, 2012 1:21 pm ET)
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      His signature legislation, Obamacare, allows for the federal funding of abortion.

      No
      It
      Does
      Not

      It never have has been, never will be. The Hyde Amendment already forbade it. But not enough to mollify terrified morons in Congress, the Affordable Care Act again prohibited it.

      Stop lying to people who don't know any better you troll.
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    • Author by shaggles (January 27, 2012 1:34 pm ET)
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      The right likes to claim minorities asking for equal rights are really asking for special rights. They are wrong. This is an example of a group asking for special rights.
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    • Author by Imbecile (January 27, 2012 1:40 pm ET)
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      Let's see how easy this is. Let's take this:
      Like many leftists, President Obama has deep contempt for Christianity and democracy. This is why his administration has declared war on the Catholic Church and religious liberty.


      and turn it into this:
      Like many Christians, Jeffrey Kuhner has deep contempt for atheists and religious freedom. This is why his article has declared war on atheists along with every other religion and religious liberty.


      Anyone can take generic platitudes and apply them to whomever they choose. This is what Republican media does, and they do it well.

      I can also add the challenge for anyone to prove me wrong, which serves to give my meaningless proclamation some validity because all I have to do is name a few instances that support my thesis, reiterate that I didn't say "all Christians" and presto (!) I have a "fact" which I can now use to springboard other ridiculous ideas off of.
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    • Author by chazmanr (January 27, 2012 2:16 pm ET)
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      Wait a minute, I thought liberals were week when it came to war. Yet, the left is waging war on?
      Christmas
      Christianity
      Democracy
      Capitalism
      Freedom
      Liberty

      For a group that is weak on war, we seem to waging a lot of them.
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      • Author by Imbecile (January 27, 2012 2:35 pm ET)
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        For a group that is weak on war, we seem to waging a lot of them.


        And apparently, we're so effective at it that if we aren't stopped soon, we're going to destroy America...or freedom...or Jesus...or something.
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    • Author by chazmanr (January 27, 2012 2:18 pm ET)
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      His signature legislation, Obamacare, allows for the federal funding of abortion.


      Have they not forgotten how they trumpeted the Hyde Amendment when it was passed?
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    • Author by mary59 (January 27, 2012 4:01 pm ET)
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      It's time to re-post an e-mail sent to me before the '08 election entitled "Crazy important stuff about Obama you need to forward right away!"
      --------------------------------------------------------------
      Never mind who sent this. It’s all TRUE. I checked it out at Snopes…….

      From:
      To:
      Subject: WHO IS BARACK OBAMA?

      There are many things people do not know about BARACK OBAMA. It is every American's duty to read this message and pass it along to all of their friends and loved ones.

      Barack Obama wears a FLAG PIN at all times. Even in the shower.

      Barack Obama says the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE every time he sees an American flag. He also ends every sentence by saying, "WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL." Click here for video of Obama quietly mouthing the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in his sleep.

      A tape exists of Michelle Obama saying the PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE at a conference on PATRIOTISM.

      Every weekend, Barack and Michelle take their daughters HUNTING.

      Barack Obama is a PATRIOTIC AMERICAN. He has one HAND over his HEART at all times. He occasionally switches when one arm gets tired, which is almost never because he is STRONG.

      Barack Obama has the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE tattooed on his stomach. It's upside-down, so he can read it while doing sit-ups.

      There's only one artist on Barack Obama's iPod: FRANCIS SCOTT KEY.

      Barack Obama is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN. His favorite book is the BIBLE, which he has memorized. His name means HE WHO LOVES JESUS in the ancient language of Aramaic. He is PROUD that Jesus was an American.

      Barack Obama goes to church every morning. He goes to church every afternoon. He goes to church every evening. He is IN CHURCH RIGHT NOW.

      Barack Obama's new airplane includes a conference room, a kitchen, and a MEGACHURCH.

      Barack Obama's skin is the color of AMERICAN SOIL.

      Barack Obama buys AMERICAN STUFF. He owns a FORD, a BASEBALL TEAM, and a COMPUTER HE BUILT HIMSELF FROM AMERICAN PARTS. He travels mostly by FORKLIFT.
      ---------------------------------------------------------------

      My friend is a humorist who modified an article in Salon


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      • Author by neon desert (January 27, 2012 4:28 pm ET)
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        Love it, Mary.

        I'm a little concerned about the Obamas' lack of children, however. I suspect they may secretly be using birth control.
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        • Author by mary59 (January 27, 2012 4:35 pm ET)
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          No worries: he only uses godly birth control, which involves Fords, baseball teams, computers built from American parts and forklifts.
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          • Author by The_Cat (January 27, 2012 5:12 pm ET)
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            No worries: he only uses godly birth control, which involves Fords, baseball teams, computers built from American parts and forklifts.

            Could I get a diagram of that? I'm not sure if I should completely trust my vasectomy...

            >^o.-^<
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            • Author by neon desert (January 27, 2012 6:25 pm ET)
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              High center consoles and too-small back seats, coming home only to pass out on the bed after $8 beers at the ball park with the guys, online porn, and smelling of diesel.

              (little-known history: electric forklifts were largely responsible for the baby boom)
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              • Author by grmce (January 28, 2012 11:09 am ET)
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                And the most effective form of contraception has been the introduction of the electric light!
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    • Author by PBVV (January 28, 2012 2:28 am ET)
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      Like many leftists, President Obama has deep contempt for Christianity and democracy.



      Kuhner is a delusional religious fanatic,
      and/ or,
      he is an unscrupulous liar..

      He can keep screaming this lie from the rooftops from now until the second coming of Christ but he can not make it be the truth.

      So, either Kuhner is a delusional religious fanatic, unhinged and detached from reality, lost in his psychosis,
      and/ or,
      he is an unscrupulous liar.

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      • Author by dazednamused (January 28, 2012 11:16 am ET)
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        Second coming of Christ? I didn't know there was a first.
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      • Author by grmce (January 28, 2012 11:17 am ET)
           
        As a Catholic I am so proud of the fact that I live in country where the fact that our Prime Minister is an atheist is of no consequence - despite attempts a while back by certain elements of the Media to make an issue of it most of us couldn't give a flying feck.

        Oh, and neither do we care about the marital status of her and the "First Bloke".
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