"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser
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Matthews's Hardball lineup short on southpaws
Following last month's release of "If It's Sunday, It's Conservative," a comprehensive study of guests on the three major Sunday shows over the last nine years, Media Matters for America unveiled this week an analysis of guests on MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews for the first two months of 2006 -- the first in a series of studies of the guest lists of cable news programs.
Media Matters found that, like the Sunday shows, Hardball features Republicans and conservatives significantly more often than Democrats and progressives:
Media Matters tallied all guests who appeared on Hardball during the first two months of 2006 and coded them based on party affiliation and ideology. (A list of the guests is here.) The data reflected in these charts show that the number of Republican/conservative guests has been significantly higher than the number of Democratic/progressive guests. In January, Republicans/conservatives led Democrats/progressives 55 to 38 -- a difference of 59 percent to 41 percent. By February, that advantage had increased: Republican/conservatives outnumbered Democrats/progressives 55 to 34, or 62 percent to 38 percent.
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In addition, conservative journalists and pundits outnumbered progressive journalists and pundits by a considerable margin. While most journalists/pundits were neutral reporters or consistently presented a centrist point of view, the data show that those who spoke from an ideological perspective were conservative far more often than progressive. Conservatives in this category outnumbered progressives 42 to 13 -- a ratio of more than 3-to-1.
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Hardball panels frequently demonstrate an ideological imbalance; when they do, that imbalance usually tilts to the right. While the majority of panels were balanced, the number of right-tilted panels was significantly greater than the number of left-tilted panels, at a ratio of nearly 3-to-1. During January and February, 22 panels tilted right, while only eight panels tilted left. This can largely be attributed to the presence of frequent panelists -- and conservative MSNBC hosts -- Tucker Carlson of The Situation with Tucker Carlson and former Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL) of Scarborough Country. Both MSNBC hosts are given prominence on Hardball's journalist panels without a progressive to counter with an opposing point of view.
Guest lists don't tell the whole story about Hardball, of course. Conservative media critics argue, as Media Matters has noted, that Matthews himself is a liberal:
For example, in January 2006, Don Irvine, chairman of the conservative Accuracy in Media, described Matthews as "[o]ne member of the liberal media"; in April 2005, L. Brent Bozell III, founder and president of the conservative Media Research Center, suggested that Matthews rename Hardball to Cuddles with Chris for the show's "liberal or radical guests."
Are Bozell and Irvine correct? Is Matthews a "liberal"? We don't know, but he sure doesn't act like one. His gushing praise of President Bush ("Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility") and vicious lies about Democrats helped convince Media Matters to name him 2005's Misinformer of the Year.
And those conservative guests Matthews features so often on Hardball -- how does he treat them? Here are a few examples:
Matthews to White House deputy press secretary Trent Duffy: "See how much we get done when you come over here? Isn't this great? ... I wish we had you every night. It's great to have you, Trent, deputy press secretary to the president of the United States."
Matthews to House Republican Leader John Boehner: "I am very much proud of anybody who takes on a job like you have taken on. It's so great. ... We'll be right back with House Majority Leader John Boehner. You can see this man's greatness."
Matthews to New York Republican Senate candidate KT McFarland: "You're a delightful candidate, you'll probably do very well in this uphill battle as the underdog."
Matthews on Sen. John McCain (R-AZ): "We'll get the straight talk from Senator McCain himself in just a moment, but one of the lessons here might be: Don't mess with John McCain."
Vaughn Ververs, editor of CBS News' Public Eye weblog, responded to Media Matters' analysis of Hardball guests, arguing -- as he did after our Sunday show report -- that the ideological leanings and partisan affiliations of guests is irrelevant; that what matters is what the guests "actually had to say."
But Ververs not only seems to wildly overestimate the frequency with which Republican and conservative guests take progressive positions, he also ignores a key point: The significance of television news guest lists isn't just about which positions get articulated. It's also about which politicians, advocates, and leaders benefit from the exposure a national news program provides. The fact that John McCain has appeared on the Sunday shows 124 times in the last nine years -- 50 percent more often than anybody else -- doesn't just mean that his conservative views have been expressed 124 times. It also means that he has been given a platform from which he can appeal to voters; he has been elevated as a national leader.
People often complain that they're sick of the Republicans and conservatives who have blundered and lied their way into an unpopular war, record deficits, and a growing health care crisis -- but that they don't see viable progressive or Democratic leaders emerging to offer an alternative. But that is, in part, because progressive leaders aren't given the platform that McCain is given. Surely Joe Conason and David Corn have as many interesting and important things to say as John Fund and Bill Kristol -- but they aren't on television as much.
Aside from quadrennial national political conventions, shows like Meet the Press and Hardball and Face the Nation are where emerging leaders are seen by the most viewers. It's where they have the greatest chance to win support for their ideas, their agendas, their candidacies. When those shows book significantly more Republicans and conservatives than Democrats and progressives, it has an obvious effect on policy, on politics, and on elections -- an effect that isn't offset by the fact that, every once in a while, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) may criticize President Bush.
Media declare port deal controversy over; continue to ignore years of Democratic efforts to secure America's ports
Now that Dubai Ports World (DPW) will apparently not take control over operations at U.S. ports, the media have been quick to declare the controversy over, announcing that Republicans have averted a political disaster by "standing against the port deal." The Washington Post assessed the political fallout:
But it's not clear whether Democrats will be able to turn that issue to their benefit in the fall. Republicans on Capitol Hill were every bit as vocal as their opponents in standing against the port deal, making it harder to draw a clear distinction come campaign time. By turning against Bush, some GOP strategists believe Republican leaders may have saved themselves a worse fate.
But the Post's assessment ignores the fact that there are many more questions about the security at America's ports -- questions that don't go away just because DPW is out of the picture. Congressional Democrats and others have argued for years that the Bush administration and congressional Republicans have failed to secure the ports and have proposed their own remedies.
Yet The Washington Post and NBC's Tim Russert ("They have now taken care of the port deal") flatly declare the matter over.
Even more incredibly, a New York Post editorial asked: "Now let's see whether those same pols who were fulminating over foreign ownership -- Chuck Schumer? Hillary Clinton? -- show the same concern over the reality of what passes for port security." But Sens. Schumer and Clinton have already shown "concern over the reality of what passes for port security," and they will continue to do so. It is President Bush and congressional Republicans -- along with The Washington Post and Russert -- who don't show such concern.
Which brings us back to our point about why Vaughn Ververs is wrong. Republican and conservative guests on shows like Hardball and Face the Nation may well have been critical of the port deal or of President Bush's handling of it. According to Ververs, that -- not their party or ideology -- is what matters. But unless those guests also criticized years of neglect by Bush and congressional Republicans on the broader issue of securing our ports, viewers weren't given the full picture. Unless those guests also endorsed Democratic efforts to fix port security, viewers weren't really treated to a comprehensive discussion. They saw Republicans arguing with Republicans about whether or not to transfer control of ports to a company owned by the government of Dubai, part of the United Arab Emirates -- but they didn't see Democrats talking about their efforts to secure increased funding to secure our ports. Isn't it obvious that there's a problem with that?
We recently described the "relentlessly positive, often-sycophantic" way the media cover Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), focusing on media lavishing praise and attention on him. But McCain benefits from unique media coverage in another way: While most politicians can expect news organizations to play up their most controversial actions and statements, reporters typically look the other way when something embarrassing to McCain comes along.
The classic example of this behavior is the lack of coverage given to a "joke" McCain told in 1998 in which he called the president's teenage daughter "ugly" and implied that Janet Reno -- the only woman ever to serve as Attorney General of the United States -- was, in fact, a man. As David Corn explained at Salon.com:
McCain's lapse in judgment -- admittedly, not as big a lapse as having a sexual relationship with an intern -- may be a significant clue into aspects of his "character," and thus relevant to the voting public. But many voters have been spared this insight, thanks to the censors in the press. ... [T]he joke revealed more than a mean streak in a man who would be president. It also exposed how the Washington Post, New York Times and Los Angeles Times play favorites when reporting the foibles of our leading politicians.
Maureen Dowd, writing in The New York Times, added of McCain: "He is so revered by the press that his disgusting jape was largely nudged under the rug. 'It's like a return to the Kennedy era,' said one magazine editor. 'He makes a gaffe, and we look the other way.'"
Of course, McCain's "joke" was of little import, aside from what it reveals about his character, his temperament, and his mean streak. But the media look the other way about matters that may tell us more about McCain: whether he's as "clean" as he and his unofficial flaks in the media want us to think he is, and what his positions are on important issues.
Take, for example, the article Reuters ran about a forthcoming Vanity Fair article in which former Republican lobbyist and admitted felon Jack Abramoff disclosed that he "worked closely with many top Republicans, despite their claims to the contrary." The Vanity Fair article includes this passage:
"Mr. Abramoff flatters himself," Mark Salter, McCain's administrative assistant, tells [Vanity Fair contributing editor David] Margolick. "Senator McCain was unaware of his existence until he read initial press accounts of Abramoff's abuses, and had never laid eyes on him until he appeared before the committee."
Abramoff says, "As best I can remember, when I met with him, he didn't have his eyes shut. I'm surprised that Senator McCain has joined the chorus of amnesiacs."
The Reuters article about the Vanity Fair piece began: "Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff said in the latest issue of Vanity Fair magazine that he worked closely with many top Republicans, despite their claims to the contrary."
Yet Reuters didn't mention John McCain at all, focusing instead on comparatively insignificant Republicans like Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT) and Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman. The Vanity Fair passage about McCain perfectly fit the premise of the Reuters article -- it shows Abramoff contradicting McCain's claim, through a spokesman, that he had never met Abramoff. If Abramoff is telling the truth, we've learned two things: McCain has ties to one of the most corrupt lobbyists ever to walk the earth, and he's lying about it. McCain is among the most famous Republicans in America, and a leading contender for the party's 2008 presidential nomination.
Yet Reuters omitted any mention of him from its article. Does anyone believe, even for a moment, that any other political figure of McCain's stature -- say, Hillary Clinton or John Kerry -- would have been the recipient of this kind of favorable treatment?
Another example: On MSNBC, Chris Matthews whitewashed McCain's controversial position on the recently passed South Dakota abortion ban. Matthews told viewers that "President Bush and John McCain, two leaders of the Republican Party, keep saying it isn't the time to make changes in the law" to outlaw abortion. If true, that would put McCain squarely in step with most Americans. But it isn't true. McCain, through a spokesman, has said that he would have signed the South Dakota law, as Media Matters explained:
On the March 7 edition of MSNBC's Hardball with Chris Matthews, Matthews stated that "President Bush and John McCain, two leaders of the Republican party, keep saying it isn't the time to make changes in the law" to outlaw abortion. In making the assertion about McCain, Matthews ignored a statement by a McCain spokesman, quoted by The National Journal's weblog The Hotline (subscription required), that if McCain were the South Dakota governor, he " 'would have signed the [South Dakota] legislation, but would also take the appropriate steps under state law -- in whatever state -- to ensure that the exceptions of rape, incest or life of the mother were included.' " While McCain's spokesman's statement is inconclusive in that it contains two assertions that, without more detail, make little sense together (the spokesman did not say that McCain would sign only if he secured the desired amendments, merely that he would sign -- and he would seek to amend -- the bill) McCain did take a position on a highly controversial and restrictive bill that was different from what Matthews claimed McCain "keep[s] saying."
Time for the Times to "take a stand"
We've argued repeatedly that newspaper editorials -- like those The New York Times has frequently run -- calling on Congress to conduct oversight of the Bush administration are largely pointless: the Republicans who control Congress have shown over and over again that they simply won't do it. Sure, from time to time, they'll pretend -- but they always stop far short of actual oversight.
This week, our friends at Think Progress detail the extent to which Senate Intelligence Committee chairman Pat Roberts (R-KS) has covered up Bush administration failures on "the most important intelligence issues facing Americans."
It couldn't have come at a better time, as Intelligence Committee Republicans this week predictably decided against investigating the Bush administration's warrantless domestic spying operation, deciding instead to simply change the law to make warantless wiretapping legal.
After months of critical comments about the legality of the program and the need for an investigation, Republican Sens. Hagel (R-NE) and Olympia Snowe (R-ME) fell in line with Vice President Dick Cheney when it mattered, scuttling the investigation the Times and others have been urging. Snowe even had the audacity to claim, "We are reasserting Congressional responsibility and oversight. ... We have to get the facts in order to weigh in." Keep in mind: Snowe said this as she and her fellow Republicans were killing a thorough investigation.
The New York Times reacted with predictable, though pointless, outrage in a March 9 editorial:
The Senate panel has become so paralyzingly partisan that it could not even manage to do its basic job this week and look into President Bush's warrantless spying on Americans' international e-mail and phone calls. Senator Pat Roberts, the chairman, said Tuesday that there would be no investigation.
Imagine that: Pat Roberts said there would be no investigation. Who could possibly have predicted that? How about the Times itself, which asked in a February 17 editorial: "Is there any aspect of President Bush's miserable record on intelligence that Senator Pat Roberts, chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is not willing to excuse and help to cover up?"
Though the Times' editorial board knew Sen. Roberts was "willing to excuse and help cover up" Bush administration misdeeds, it put its faith in him rather than calling for a special counsel to investigate what the Times said is presidential lawbreaking. That faith was, it turns out, misplaced.
The Times' March 9 editorial continued:
It's breathtakingly cynical. Faced with a president who is almost certainly breaking the law, the Senate sets up a panel to watch him do it and calls that control.
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The Republicans' idea of supervision involves saying the White House should get a warrant for spying whenever possible. Currently a warrant is needed, period. And that's the right law. The White House has not offered a scrap of evidence that it interferes with antiterrorist operations. Mr. Bush simply decided the law did not apply to him.
It was no surprise that Mr. Roberts led this retreat. He's been blocking an investigation into the domestic spying operation for weeks, just as he has been stonewalling a promised investigation into how the White House hyped the intelligence on Iraq. But it was disappointing to see a principled Republican like Senator Olympia Snowe go along. The Democrats are not blameless, either. Too often, their positions seem like campaign tactics, and Senator John Rockefeller IV fumbled by not consulting Ms. Snowe, who is up for re-election and under intense White House pressure.
But the Republicans deserve the lion's share of the blame. It was Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney who hyped the intelligence on Iraq -- and the Senate Republicans who helped them evade accountability. And it was Mr. Bush who approved the warrantless wiretapping, which is part of Mr. Cheney's crusade to expand presidential powers. (Unlike the rest of us, Mr. Cheney thought the lesson of Watergate was that the president was not strong enough.)
Ms. Snowe said she would still support an investigation if the new panel uncovered more wrongdoing. But that's hardly likely to happen because the Republicans on the panel are Mr. Roberts, Orrin Hatch, Mike DeWine and Christopher Bond, who march in lock step with the White House.
The Senate Judiciary Committee is still looking into the wiretapping. That committee should have plenty of incentive to go forward -- its chairman, Senator Arlen Specter, was righteously angry when he received a letter in which Attorney General Alberto Gonzales implied that there was more warrantless spying we don't know about. Mr. Gonzales won't even say that Mr. Bush understands it is blatantly illegal to spy on communications within the United States without a warrant. Nevertheless, there's not much cause for hope: Mr. Specter has a sad habit of bowing to the right wing when the chips are down.
To recap: the Times said it was "no surprise that Mr. Roberts led this retreat." The editorial said the Times has little hope that the Senate Judiciary Committee will conduct a meaningful investigation because "Mr. Specter has a sad habit of bowing to the right wing when the chips are down." So, why did the Times put their faith in these political allies of the president? Why does it still refuse to call, as it has in the past, for an independent investigation?
The Times editorial concluded:
There are moments when leaders simply have to take a stand. It seems to us that one of them is when Americans are in danger of the kind of unchecked surveillance that they thought had died with J. Edgar Hoover, Watergate and spying on Vietnam protesters and civil rights leaders.
There are moments when newspapers simply have to take a stand, too.
At least the Times' editorial writers got the facts right; their colleagues in the news department missed badly in their attempt to explain the deal reached between Republican senators and the White House. As Media Matters explained:
A March 8 New York Times article by staff writers David D. Kirkpatrick and Scott Shane reported that the recent agreement between the White House and Republican members of the Senate Intelligence Committee concerning the Bush administration's warrantless domestic surveillance program "would reinforce the authority of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court," which is often referred to as the FISA court. But far from reinforcing what many say should be the FISA court's authority over the program, the reported agreement, if it is introduced as legislation, would codify the program's status outside the reach of the court.
Cowardly Bill O'Reilly on insanity and "serious debate"
On the March 7 broadcast of The Radio Factor, host Bill O'Reilly explained why he'll never invite Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA) to appear on the show:
[Y]ou know when Murtha says 'there was no terrorism in Iraq before' the war, I mean, that's just insane, with all due respect. And that's why John Murtha will never come on The Factor, because that statement eliminates him from any serious debate.
That's right: Bill O'Reilly thinks he's the guardian of "serious debate."
The day after declaring Murtha "insane," O'Reilly elaborated on his definition of sanity: "You know, in a sane world, every country would unite against Iran and blow it off the face of the earth. That would be the sane thing to do."
O'Reilly's attack on Murtha -- and refusal to invite Murtha to appear on his show -- reminds us of O'Reilly's definition of cowardice: "If you attack someone publicly, as these men did to me, you have an obligation to face the person you are smearing. If you don't, you are a coward."
















... I'm reminded of these words, so very relevant to the situation Americans find themselves in today:
"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refuted his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred. to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
I'm going to save this document before our current government decides to re-classify it as secret. What I can't understand today is why no one sees these as self-evident truths? We've lost the War on Terrorism because we were told that the terrorists hate our freedom. So each day we lose, or in some cases give away, more of our freedoms. We allow ourselves to cower as they warn about imminent attacks, and then we thank those in charge by voting to keep them in power. We've sold the promise that was America for what we think is a little security. For that we should hang our heads in shame.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
LABB
Next time your in the hood how about posting the eerie similarities between a german and pres bush???
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
And the Scorecard: ..................AND US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is JUST getting started!!!!!!!!!!!!
[link to www.waynemadsenreport.com]
Navy Guy,
The "light and transient causes" include most of what is mixed in with the crap being thrown at the courts by Duhhbya, DeLay and the Six-Dayers.
Retired Justice O'Connor must be very concerned about this onslaught to be speaking out against it so vociferously and so soon after stepping down.
Hello Drafted,
You are quite correct. 'Sandra D' even alluded to the "D" word as in DICTATORSHIP. What an untimely interval in history for her to be vacating the SC.
" I, said O’Connor, am against judicial reforms driven by nakedly partisan reasoning. Pointing to the experiences of developing countries and former communist countries where interference with an independent judiciary has allowed dictatorship to flourish, O’Connor said we must be ever-vigilant against those who would strongarm the judiciary into adopting their preferred policies. It takes a lot of degeneration before a country falls into dictatorship, she said, but we should avoid these ends by avoiding these beginnings. "
[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
Nina Totenberg, of NPR, was the only reporter there. I like this comment also from the Guardian , "Dictatorship is the danger,
A Reagan-appointed supreme court justice voices her fears over attacks on US democracy " ,
Jonathan Raban, Monday March 13, 2006
"Delivered by someone who was, until recently, one of the nine guardians of the US constitution, these are spine-chilling opinions, and you might have thought they'd have been all over the papers the next day. Not so. I happened to catch Totenberg's NPR report last Friday, and have been following up references to it. A cable TV talkshow and a handful of blogs have mentioned Totenberg's piece: otherwise there's been a disquieting silence, as if the former justice had laid an unsavoury egg and had best be politely ignored.
Why did O'Connor choose such a closed forum to air her thoughts? Why was Totenberg the only reporter present? The possibility that America is sliding toward dictatorship or an unprecedented form of corporate oligarchy ought to be a matter of world concern. And if O'Connor believes what she is reported to have said, surely she owes it to the world to make public the prepared text of her remarks, which so far have the dubious character of the scores of unverifiable leaks that have passed for news in the compulsively secretive world of the Bush administration. It's unsurprising that, say, Colin Powell chooses to leak rather than speak out, but when a supreme court justice prefers to whisper her fears to a coterie audience, it's hard to avoid the inference that the whisper itself speaks volumes about the imperilled democracy it purports to describe."
[link to www.guardian.co.uk]
I, too, think the text of this speech should be available and widely distributed, like in every op-ed of every American newspaper.
Many mainstream newpapers editorialized unfavorably about the less than honorable FISA oversight resolution in the Senate, although not directly linking it to Roberts in their headlines and leads.
Pat Roberts is NO promise keeper:
Awesome post, thank you for those links. I'll be reading them all at my leisure, but for now I'm simply encouraged by the seldom found media insights that their titles imply:
Congress Scores Empty Victory On Domestic Spying (I guess the San Jose Mercury News doesn't subscribe to the White House's talking points, else they would have said 'terrorist surveillance')
Congress Backs Down: Eavesdropping Accord Averts A Real Probe (I see The Bee also doesn't subscribe to the WH's terminology; and why should they, they're Journalists, they know what words mean, and how to use them without the help of the Administration)
And the one that looks most insightful of all:
Eavesdropping Deal Bypasses Courts, Privacy Concerns (USA Today, you nailed it! You kicked the issue not to the gutter, but right into the Jurisdiction in which it belongs: The Judiciary Committee! 'Warrantless wiretaps' are in no way the business, or Jurisdiction, of the Senate Intelligence Committee; how dare they presume it so. This circumvention of the FISA Court is a matter for the Judiciary Committee, and the longer that Judiciary allows Intel to usurp their Jurisdictional obligations to the Courts and the Constitution, the more it seems that the stain that Intel has become, soils the robes of the Judiciary)
Thanks again for the links. The encouragement they gave me, may discourage me from posting the sour note that I came to this thread to sound out.
The time has come to separate out the Real Conservatives from the NeoConnivers, the Right-Sided Extremists and the Poseur PolitiqueChic. No Real Conservative would acquiesce to a President's theft of constitutionally delineated natural liberty, regardless of the executive's party affiliation. It's too bad that Hagel seems to be infected with presidential fever. I kind of liked him.
(I reposted the editorials from my previous post for a complete listing here. They are ordered in the sequence that I archived them)
Finally, offered as evidence of Contemporary Conservatism's continuing plunging descent into Moral Relativism:
Much appreciated, this post from which we may link to the Opinions on this matter, from that Press which serves a Beacon to the American People.
And while that Press is hopefully our brightest Light, the Law remains our Guide.
And our Legislators are about to walk the point in this matter (and walking point is the most hazardous position; and so We're All there in Spirit, with a Congressman who walks point for the People).
With Mr. Feingold having announced his Censure Resolution on this matter, and with last week an extraordinary week of action (proposed DPW ban, creation of an Intel 'oversight' sub-committee that's all crap, et al), and with last week about to be dwarfed by this week to come (that same proposed ban sticking to the supplemental or not, the Censure Resolution, et whatever al else We may see), I'm going to sound my Sour Note...
With (tough) Love and Affection:
The identification of the Devil, requiring a great deal of discretion; and the fighting of him requiring a priority of targets; I'll point out that of last week's 54 items posted by MMFA (again, an extraordinary week), a quick survey of their titles reveals:
A relatively few five involved our 'pet villain' O'Reilly: one where the focus seemed to be that he "thinks he has his own police", another where he imagines blowing up a country, and another where he defines the word 'villain' itself (as opposed to being an example of one).
Seven involved a hurricane that struck the greater New Orleans area last summer, the great damage being not so much in the strength of the weather, but in the weakness of the levees.
Eight involved one Clinton or another, of which the characterizations of "ambulance chaser" and "screeching ex-wife" were the offenses (why "ex-wife"? Wouldn't "screeching wife" have been appropriate in this case? Nobody's divorced in this instance that I know of. Think of it, why was it not "screeching wife"? Think of it, and consider how carefully they choose their insults, and be amused).
A total of nine involved variously: Senile tele-preachers, 'morality' lobbyists, plunging necklines at the Oscars, homosexuality, intensely personal surgical procedures, a snide Coulter reference to a 'backdoor delivery', and something about Domino's Pizza and anti-Catholic bias (OK, so if it's Friday, just order a 'meatless', or even anchovies; the Pope says it's OK.)
...and they represent 29 or so of that extraordinary week's items.
As to the balance of the items?
Five involved Iraq and 'pre-war intelligence', and six involved Congressional ethics.
Six involved the Administration's 'wiretapping' of the People without a warrant (how dare Intel think this is their jurisdiction; how dare the Judiciary's Mr. Feingold know better, and speak the Truth on the matter, and of it's proper jurisdiction).
Eight involved the Dubai Ports World 'deal', of which I would happily cite the best written of those items, were it not much easier to state that:
All eight of the DPW items were as well written, as well researched, as timely and as important, as the People could ever hope for from their Press, as the Press could ever hopefully get behind, and as valuable as a responsive People's Congress could ever require...
And as Powerful a Reporting (that near-killed the 'deal' itself) by a way of arming the People and their Congress with the sword of Truth itself...
And as much appreciated by me, as anything else I have ever read on this site, in all the time that it has been in my Favorites Folder; which is all the time that the site's been up, I think.
Thank you MMFA, from the bottom of my (tough-loving) heart.
And so to Review:
...the week to come; a priority of targets, and of Force; Iraq and 'pre-war intelligence'; Congressional ethics; the Administration's 'wiretapping' of the People without a warrant; Intel; Judiciary's Mr. Feingold; the Dubai Ports World 'deal' (which is not yet dead, but simply a ban attached to an unsigned supplemental: who shall move to have that ban stripped out? who shall be forced to sign that supplemental into Law, ban included? who indeed; We must watch this supplemental through the Congress; We, a diligent People, and...); the sword of Truth itself; MMFA, from the bottom of my (tough-loving) heart...
The (Sweet and) Sour Note...
...to close an extraordinary week, and to begin another; like a call to muster, and a call to Arms; to fight the Devil himself.
....since John McCain was in charge of Indian Affairs in the Senate, don't you think it is possible that he may have at least met Jack Abramhoff...........
This may be a little off thread, but has anyone else noticed the number of comments in the media bemoaning the argumentative and irrational commentary and blind partisanship that passes for debate in this country?
What most neglect to mention is that THE FAR RIGHT STARTED IT TWENTY- FIVE TO THIRTY YEARS AGO. The Reagan crowd pre-empted the political measuring stick and started spouting off far right stances as if they were the mainstream. They have successfully bought up all of the media outlets, and today they present themselves as the "normal" viewpoint.
Now that the left has belatedly begun to fight back, of course it is ruffling some feathers on the right. How dare we question their family values corporate domination religious right BULLCRAP.
I say, GET LOUD and keep up the good fight. Our country is worth fighting for.
Between the time he was Governor of my state and President, Ronny did a syndicated radio show. Listening to him help me polish my epithets.
While he wasn't quite as outlandish as Sean, Rush, etc., if the MSM had done their job and repeated some of the things he said on his radio shows, I don't think he would have been elected.
A big difference between the Puppet Ronny and the Puppet Duhhbya is that Ronny could remember a line.
Amen brother!!
and others.........
But to get started on this.......
I encourage everyone that cares about our democracy and the "Votes" that we cast to voice our wants and needs......
Read these two books:
"Black Box Voting" by Bev Harris
and
"Votescam" by James and Ken Collier
To "VOTE" is not so much a right (which it is) but an obligation!
What's also an obligation is for "US" to demand that all vote card counting be done in the public for all to see!!
We need to get rid of all those computerized voting machines that are (by the way) owned by for-profit corporations that also happen to be huge financial backers of the Bush regime and other various right-wing pundits!!
I don't know about you all......but I have a hard time believing that for-profit companies have ever counted our votes properly....or would even want to?
Come this November we need to start taking back our democracy.....even if it turns out that neo-cons are all honestly re-elected........by demanding that vote counts be done in front of the public and not behind closed doors or with machines that can be hacked into by a 12 year old!!
Anything less than that and I might wonder if "we the majority" truely care!!
except the story that has never been explained is why bush's vote margin in 2000 in fla went from 29,000 at 1 am to 51,000 at 2 am. and which led bush's cousin to call the election for bush on fox, and the others followed in the space of two minutes. the following quotes are from jeffrey toobin's "too close to call", but these are documented facts. "at one o'clock in the morning, the florida website showed a bush lead of 29,000 votes". that did not include most of miami-dade and broward counties, both democratic strongholds. "then abruptly the trend turned around. at 2 am, the secretary of state [can you say katherine harris?] posted [on her web site] complete returns from volusia county, which pushed bush's lead back up to 51,433 votes". the problem? a precinct in volusia had registered about 16,000 negative votes for gore. when that was " corrected", gore was only down 6,000 at that point. was this a mistake. maybe. do i trust the republicans? no. remember when ross perot temporarily withdrew from the 1992 race because he said that the republicans were trying to spread rumors about his daughter and disrupt her wedding? it sounded a little goofy, but when you consider this was the bushies, well maybe not.
[link to www.bradblog.com]
michael massing of the new york review of books says dowd was absolutely right to attack judith miller, but wonders if it was all right to "kick her when she was down". excuse me? this woman, with the approval of the ny times, used bogus information time after time from a source, ahmed chalabi, who was so untrustworthy that the clinton administration refused to deal with him. the bush administration cited her articles as proof of their wmd claims. feel sorry for her? bull----.
Considering your post I suppose I don't blame you for not even mentioning the fact that voter fraud is and has been prevalent for a long time (and not just here in America)
Nobody wants to believe that any thing less than honesty exists in our elections!
But, lets face it, if we (not just here) but everywhere within our borders that claim to love our country and our freedom and our democracy don't stand up and demand TRUELY OPEN VOTE CARD COUNTS in front of camera's and Average Joe citizen where the public can scrutinize the vote counters we are nothing more than useless weasles!!
I repeat again what I said "For profit corporations own the computerized voting machines that run our elections"
How can this be allowed in a democracy?? How can we allow it to keep happening??
If every right-wing conservative running in this country were to win in an election where the votes were ALL counted...... I might not like it.....but if a true majority voted them in....I would accept it!! As is the nature of a democracy!!
Anything less than that makes every election won by anybody connected to corporations through contributions not worthy of the position of trust!!
That goes for liberals and conservatives and everybody in-between......or the outer fringes!!
As for the media........well.....I don't trust the main-stream much anymore......as fas as I'm concerned they turned their collective backs on "WE" citizens for a front row seat at the WH press room back in Nov 2000
And to give credence to Fox Opinion as anything more than a collective group of loonies and weirdo's and liars and right-wing suckups is giving them to much credit!! Same can almost be said of CNN and MSNBC (with a few exceptions)
If this makes me a cynic.......I can live with that!!
with the no proof of cheating. i fully agree with you. i don't trust the machines or the people who run them. it's amazing how the right wing that constantly bashes government decides that everything is perfect in this instance. we absolutely need some kind of paper trail.
one more thing. when i talked about bush's cousin making the call for bush on fox in 2000, i wasn't talking about "fox opinion". bush's first cousin, john ellis, was hired by fox to work on their election night desk. he made a recommendation that fox call fla for bush. they did at 216 am. the other networks followed. although those were subsequently retracted, it created an image that the election belonged to bush.
Other conservative talking heads have turned against the Bush Administration as opinion polls smash all-time record lows. Matthews will follow. But he will be damaged goods for having relentlessly and to the end "pumped and dumped" such a reckless and misguided Republican Administration and leadership in Congress.
"SCARBOROUGH: The lack of leadership in Washington, D.C., is sickening. If you look at what Republicans did-promised to do in 1994, when they took control of Congress, and see how they've been acting over the past three or four years, the biggest debt and deficit ever. They are irresponsible and reckless on so many levels. I'm embarrassed right now to be a Republican. It's a disgrace because of the lack of leadership." [link to www.msnbc.msn.com]
“Bruce Bartlett, the author of "Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy," is an angry man. At a recent book forum at the Cato Institute, he declared that the Bush administration is "unconscionable," "irresponsible," "vindictive" and "inept." . . . . Andrew Sullivan, the conservative Time.com blogger . . . also spoke at the Cato forum. Mr. Sullivan used to specialize in denouncing the patriotism and character of anyone who dared to criticize President Bush, whom he lionized. Now he himself has become a critic, not just of Mr. Bush's policies, but of his personal qualities, too.” From Paul Krugman in a NYT editorial on March 10: [link to select.nytimes.com]
Here’s an article that compares Bush's Gallup numbers taken in late March (overall approval rating 45% with 49% disapproval) to poll numbers at the same point in the six previous US Presidents who served two terms: “Clinton: 59 percent approval versus 35 percent disapproval Reagan: 56 percent versus 37 percent disapproval Nixon: 57 percent versus 34 percent Johnson: 69 percent versus 21 percent Eisenhower: 65 percent versus 20 percent Truman: 57 percent versus 24 percent * * * * Only 38 percent of respondents said they believed Bush had done an excellent or good job in his first 100 days, compared to 58 percent who believed he had done a fair or poor job, according to a poll conducted March 31 to April 1 by Westhill Partners and the National Journal's Hotline. People will analyze the data differently. But here are a few things that I believe have hurt the administration in the last few months: • Overconfidence: . . . .” [link to www.washingtonpost.com]
“(CBS) The latest CBS News poll finds President Bush's approval rating has fallen to an all-time low of 34 percent, while pessimism about the Iraq war has risen to a new high.” [link to www.cbsnews.com]
but they're still rats, and it is them that helped sink the ship. Now they want to scapegoat Bush for enacting policies and a philosophy of government they supported all along.
When I saw "Good Night, and Good Luck" a few months ago, I left the theater in despair, because I realized that Murrow and the "journalists" of today are two different species. Murrow stood up to incredible political and corporate pressure to wake the American people from the nightmare of McCarthyism. We desperately need someone like him today, because as eloquent as some of the posters on this and other sites are, they don't have enough exposure to wake America up.
There once was a tiny segment of English descendants who as history has proven inhabited a narrow geographic corridor on the edge of a vast continent. Being content for some 150 years to be subjects of the most prominent imperialistic power on earth, a restive spirit started to awaken in their minds and hearts as the occupying power began a formidable and illicit control of their lives, finances and posterity. A certain elite assembly of very learned men, men of substance and means who at one time swore an allegiance to this same occupying power gathered under the threat of sedition and death to challenge their ancestral Imperial Masters with the aim of establishing a sovereign nation, born in independence and whose charter would commission them to create a Constitutional Republic with the aim of establishing liberty for all.
As these men were students of history and the 'Age of Reason' they fully recognized that Governments tend overtime to become corrupt. They recognized also that Rule by Family Lineage was an anachronism which invited 'Royalty among Bloodlines' THUS alienating the populace. Being cognizant of the poisonous relationship which had existed among Europe’s temporal or Ruling Classes and that of the ecclesiastical or Church, these same revolutionaries were determined that spiritual matters or how one worshipped were to be guaranteed and kept separate from the affairs of state. These very precepts would be challenged over and over again as the struggling nation won its independence AND began its march into the future.
Another Nation of ancient origins which some 230 years later would feel the angst of betrayal labels levied against her had been very instrumental in the young nation casting off the yoke of’ its one-time imperial master. It had furnished both treasure and naval assistance for the American cause. In fact were it not for the help of this Nation, the battle of Yorktown which finally culminated in the Young Nation severing the bonds of its one-time imperial master , the Young Nation would never have appeared as an independent sovereign entity upon the world stage.
With a pioneer spirit and a government whose basic precepts allowed for the unleashing of its people’s talents and industriousness, the Young Nation prospered like none other ever recorded. However, the defeated imperialist power never quite got over the loss of its once-prized North American possession. Some thirty years after being defeated by the ‘A-F’ alliance, it had returned again only to torch the Young Nation’s capital to the ground. Some fifty years later, this same Imperialistic Power had actually sided with an alignment of Southern states attempting to secede from the Union in what is commonly referred to as the ‘War Between the States.
To be Continued.................................
As the Young Nation expanded, it became a formidable economic power AND by the time of the emergence of the 20TH century, this experiment in self-governance became the envy of the world. Concurrent with its expanding population and innovations in industry, the young nation was recognized by the world powers as a nation to be reckoned with. With the advent of what historians would later term, ‘World Wars’, the Young Nation emerged as a superpower, a somewhat nebulous term which if not carefully scrutinized by the caretakers of government would lend itself to an ethos of ‘might makes right’ and an enthusiasm for militarism.
The learned men who are now known as our ‘FOUNDING FATHERS’ actually were very aware of this propensity to become what they had given their lives and fortunes AGAINST, an IMPERIALIST POWER. The first President, a General himself and Commander of the Revolutionary Army stated emphatically that he was against large-standing armies. Other presidents in his wake would offer comments about the emergence of industry or what is commonly referred today as Corporate Power AND how even back then, their rivalry for control and influence often times was in direct contrast to the Public Will.
This pernicious extent of Corporatism would later be defined by another President, who some historians refer to as the last true Republican President as a consortium of influence-peddling power centers, now known as the ‘Military –Industrial Complex whose appetite for resources and ever-making war capacity was to be keenly watched and controlled NOT only by the elected representatives of the people BUT BY the AMERICAN CITIZENRY as well. This former president was actually a Five-Star General who had witnessed more carnage and death visited upon the earth’s inhabitants in the last World War WHICH was often fueled by this same alignment of war-making proponents.
The result of this dynamic has brought the American Experience to the following conclusive results: (1) Political Parties are now controlled by established Family Dynasties (2) Corporatism runs unabated, with a sitting Vice-President who trumped a war for very tenuous reasons AND stands to gain from its execution. (3) Welcome to the American Empire, the US now has over 700 military bases extended across the Globe with more being added each year. (4) A military budget which in one year’s time will exceed all of the Nations of earth combined. (5) An act of Congress authorized by both parties WHICH in essence compromises the CONSTITUTION. (6) Our current president claims that Providence or what he referred to as his ‘Higher Father’ sanctioned an illegal, unconstitutional and immoral war. The now-allied but former Imperialist Power’s Prime Minister identified in the narrative above, has recently claimed the same divine guidance.
Incidentally, WE did return the favor to that Nation who freed us from our Imperialist Yoke 200+ years ago. News pundits still malign her as a traitor to the American cause. Perhaps, that ancient Nation who gave to US her treasure and blood as WE did the same for her in this century stands aghast as to what WE have allowed OURSELVES to become. Well, at least we renamed Freedom Fries back to FRENCH fries.
NAVY GUY,
Well said. Too bad more discourse can't be done in the form you chose.
When comparing the current chaos-mongers' deeds to those of history's tyrants, it would be better (and harder to attack) if only the deeds were identified and not the perpetrators - most folks will be able to figure it out anyway.
I think valid comparisons can also be made between the actions of today's flock of freak-ups and those at the end of the Roman Empire:
- an over-extended military
- the near abandonment of diplomacy
- an official state religion that was not only the same one as today, but also ignored its own tenants
- a widening gulf between the haves and have-nots
- a government dominated by people completely (and intentionally) out of touch with the governed
Oh yeah, the ",DD" stands for Different Dynasty
The legislative branch has colluded with the executive, engaging in an ongoing criminal enterprise. They have taken liberties which they were never empowered to control.
And yes, this especially applies to any human that Bush, by his fiat alone, claims is a terrorist.
What is th eproblem? Take these persons into open court, secure convictions against them, and then hang 'em high. To accept less, is to acquiesce to tyranny.
All Humans' Natural Liberties include:
Wave goodbye to the Dreamtime America; it is fading away.
Your comments contain something that the administration and leaders of today know nothing about, history. They seem to have cut and pasted different slogans and pieces from our nations history, but ignored the most fundamental elements. As you stated, two of our presidents have been Republican War Heros. Both of these men, knew war and warned against having too much power in the hands of the military. Today, we have military leaders who are in their positions because other, more thoughtful men, thought better of pre-emptive war. They were either forced to resign or retired.
Never before has this country waged war without sacrifice on the part of the civilian population. We continue to push for lower taxes on the upper income brackets while we increase spending for our two wars.
Today we have people who think that supporting the troops means putting a yellow ribbon on your cars bumper. We also have All Hate Radio/TV personalities recommending that we go to war with another country, Iran. The people who are all for our pre-emtive wars in Iraq, and for invading Iran, never served during wartime. We as a nation, have allowed them to denigrate the service of men who when called, served our nation. We allow these people to cut benefits for military personnel and their families as we wave the flag and cheer them on. We've also allowed them to cut benefits for veteran's. I've even read an article in the New York Times, stating that there is an increase in applications for veterans benefits for Vietnam Veteran's since the Iraq War started. The person quoted in the article said that a lot of the applicants were looking for a free ride. In other words, they're faking. They said nothing of the fact that seeing another unpopular war in the news day after day, brings up a lot of memories for the Vietnam Veterans.
The country, our leaders and the press seem to forget that when the war is over for them, it will never be over for those who've served.
Worrierking,
Thank you kindly for your commentary. You also state:
" We as a nation, have allowed them to denigrate the service of men who when called, served our nation. We allow these people to cut benefits for military personnel and their families as we wave the flag and cheer them on."
One indelible action which will forever remained stained in my consciousness is what occurred at the Republican Convention some 18 months ago WHEN I witnessed Republican delegates with false blood-stained bandaids in an an egregious attempt to mimic Kerry's and to me ALL deserved medals from ALL generations of combat veterans in a scurrilous action of betrayal............. I happened to be watching this traitorous escapade with an elderly WW2 combat veteran WHO suffered shrapnel wounds in the 'Battle of the Bulge' WHO was awarded the 'Purple Heart'. Words cannot possibly convey what he felt by this cowardly display of contempt and inexcusable action. Oh..... I could print his exact words BUT They would not make it through the filters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for me, it is as if they spit on the graves of all Veterans buried allong the beaches of France.
Navy
Enjoyed it. You made reference to the General's Farewell Address warning to the American People; the part of that Address which contains the warning against that threat (his word, 'threat'; and he warns us against two, not just one), that part is briefer than most might think, and I paste it in it's entirety here:
"But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. Of these, I mention two only.
A vital element in keeping the Peace is our Military establishment. Our Arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our Military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in Peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no Armaments Industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of National Defense; we have been compelled to create a Permanent Armaments Industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the Defense establishment.
We annually spend on Military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.
This conjunction of an immense Military establishment and a large Arms Industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every City, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal Government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the Councils of Government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the Military-Industrial Complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our Liberties or Democratic Processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable Citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge Industrial and Military machinery of defense with our Peaceful methods and goals, so that Security and Liberty may prosper together."
[The General then warns against the second of those threats; Google 'DDE Farewell Address' to find the whole speech.]
No words can express my gratitude to you and those that fought for freedom so that I can be free......Thank you!!
Thank you for your sacrifice!!
Navy, Thank that WW2 vet for his sacrifice too!
I'm not a veteran and won't never claim to know what you guys went through and will do nothing less than be grateful to those of you that did what I did not!
It is no suprise that the RNC would be so low as to act as if they know what you guys do....that War is Hell!!
I wonder where George, Dick, Donald, Paul W and the other boobs of this regime were during Vietnam? Oh....wait, they were to busy using deferments and other lame excuses! Nevermind.......
Did you also know that Bill O'Really claimed to have been in combat in South America as a journalist covering the "wars" down there and that that somehow gives him the right to speak on your behalf...... just thought I'd share that info (not knowing if you knew it already!)
Hello CaptainFoster2,
I have conveyed your very sincere remarks to the WW2 Veteran and would like to this opportunity to express my heartfelt appreciation for your kind remarks.
As for others, there is still some honor remaining in the Officer Corps of the US Military whose solemn OATH is to PRESERVE, PROTECT & DEFEND the CONSTITUTION of the Unites States of America against ALL Enemies, Foreign or Domestic unlike the Neo-Conized Pentagon careerists of today.
[link to www.truthout.org]
I LOVE THE WAY MATTHEW IN LOVE LOOK ON SUNDAY WHEN THE REPUBLICANS HAD THERE STAW POLL, YOU CAN SEE HE WAS SO UPSET THAT HIS NEXT LOVE MCCAIN CAME IN LAST. LOOK OUT IN O8 FOR MATTHEWS TO FALL OVER MCCAIN LIKE HE DID BUSH IN O2.