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Michelle Malkin's credibility, R.I.P.

January 08, 2007 9:25 pm ET

It's time for warbloggers to find a new conspiracy theory to promote because their most recent one, which involved accusing the Associated Press of manufacturing a source in Iraq and colluding with the insurgents, blew up in their faces. But don't look for detailed corrections, let alone heartfelt apologies. Being a warblogger means not having to say you're sorry.

I've written extensively about this controversy because I think it perfectly captures the right-wing warbloggers and their never-ending goal to undermine the press. Not with thoughtful, factual analysis -- which is always welcome -- but by feverishly trying to undercut news reports that might pose a problem for President Bush's war in Iraq and by shifting attention onto the media. They want to simultaneously create confusion about facts, while undermining news consumers' confidence in the mainstream news media.

Indeed, warbloggers want to have it both ways. They want to be seen as tenacious press critics, thoroughly scrutinizing the media's work and doing democracy a favor. But in reality they can't control their naked disdain for progressives, not to mention their consuming hatred of the "liberal media." It's a combination that routinely prompts them to launch dim-witted crusades built around flimsy, what-if conspiracy theories. (Glenn Greenwald assembled a Greatest Hits list here; the Terri Schiavo talking points memo hoax represents a particularly telling chapter in warblogger foolery.)

I'm not necessarily surprised by the outcome of the AP controversy. In December I noted, "Warbloggers, who have been wrong about Iraq for going on 50 straight months, are looking for a scapegoat. I don't think the AP is their answer."

Their press offensive began over Thanksgiving weekend when an AP dispatch, quoting Iraqi police Capt. Jamil Hussein, reported that Shiite militiamen had "grabbed six Sunnis as they left Friday worship services, doused them with kerosene and burned them alive near Iraqi soldiers who did not intervene." Warbloggers were skeptical of the chilling report, and actually raised some legitimate journalism questions, in part because no other news organizations could confirm the horrific event. The U.S. Central Command's communications machine, relying on the information from Iraq's Ministry of Interior, then issued a statement that it could not corroborate the Burned Alive story, followed by another statement that Hussein was not a Baghdad police captain.

That's when the warbloggers became unhinged. Piling on, they claimed the disputed story raised doubts about all the mainstream media's reporting in Iraq. Warbloggers also accused American journalists of being too cowardly to go get the news in Iraq themselves and relying on local Iraqi news stringers with obvious terrorist sympathies and who purposefully push insurgent propaganda into the news stream -- the way Hussein did with the Burned Alive story -- to create the illusion of turmoil.

Despite the volcanic violence unfolding inside Iraq recently, the pursuit of the Hussein story produced giddy times for warbloggers. They named the scandal "Jamilgate" and created a special "Free Jamil Hussein" logo for bumper stickers. Somebody even produced a phony Jamil Hussein blog, while fake Jamil Hussein emails (aka "JMail") were posted online amidst much chuckling and backslapping.

At the height of the self-congratulatory frenzy, Michelle Malkin, who wrote incessantly about the Hussein "scandal," triumphantly announced warbloggers had caught the AP faking a source. The verdict for the mainstream media? As delivered by Malkin it was simple: "MSM credibility, R.I.P."

But turnabout is fair play, and suddenly it's Malkin's already-thin credibility that has expired. Thursday afternoon the AP reported that the Iraqi government had flip-flopped and confirmed the disputed officer's existence. The Ministry of Interior confirmed the source's name was Jamil Hussein, that he was a captain, that he was assigned to the Khadra police station, and that he had talked with AP reporters, which is precisely what the AP had insisted for months.

I must concede the discipline warbloggers have shown in maintaining their denial in the wake of the crumbling Hussein story is impressive. For instance, last month Power Line, busy hyping the "fake" Hussein story, wrote , "Of course, if Jamil Hussein turns up and [journalists] interview him in his office in a Baghdad police station, the AP will be vindicated." Well, Hussein not only turned up in Baghdad but his position was confirmed by the Ministry of Interior -- the same source warbloggers had used to deny Hussein's existence. So the AP was "vindicated," right? Not by Power Line, which for 96 hours stoically ignored the inconvenient development.

The same's true of Flopping Aces, the warblog at the center of the Hussein conspiracy story. In a rare moment of reflection last month, Curt, who was supposed to travel with Malkin to Baghdad in search of the "mysterious" Hussein, wondered out loud what would happen if the source was found. Imagining himself locating Hussein on a Baghdad street, Curt pondered the scenario "[w]hen we say that we would like him to come with us to the Ministry of Interior and have the MoI verify he is indeed a employee [sic]."

For Curt, having the Ministry of Interior verify Hussein's position would be the best way to end the controversy. Of course, last week the Ministry of Interior did verify Hussein's position -- but Curt refused to admit his pursuit had been pointless.

More? At the height of Hussein frenzy, warblogger Rick Moran at Rightwing Nuthouse wrote, "If it can be shown that Jamil Hussein is a fake or doesn't exist, where does that leave AP's coverage of the war over the last three years?" Note the emphasis Moran put on proving that Hussein "is a fake" and "doesn't exist." Yet now that we know the truth, warbloggers like Moran insist proving whether Hussein was "a fake" was never all that important. And of course, the inverse of Moran's statement now boomerangs back on the warbloggers; if it can be shown that Jamil Hussein is not a fake, where does that leave warbloggers and their coverage over the last seven weeks?

I don't want to spend too much time debunking the conspiracy point-by-point, in part because warbloggers have chased the Hussein rabbit so far down the hole they've burrowed beyond Alice's Wonderland and popped out in another dimension. They truly have proven the truism that it's not possible to argue rationally with conspiracy theorists because logic rarely deters them.

For instance, despite insisting just days earlier that Hussein was "fake," Curt at Flopping Aces wrote of the confirmation that Hussein exists: "Actually it makes it better." This from the same warblogger who previously lectured the AP, complaining that it "refuses to acknowledge that they screwed up, and screwed up royally."

Warbloggers: Jamil Hussein does not exist

It's important to understand that the entire premise of the warbloggers' press conspiracy revolved around the fact that Hussein did not exist. That's the angle that drove the story and drove their excitement. Period. Warbloggers were going to make national headlines by proving the AP had manufactured a "bogus" source in Iraq. I realize warbloggers now deny that point and argue they never pushed the angle that Hussein was a fake. Unfortunately for warbloggers, they're bloggers, which means they typed up all their dark press assertions and gleefully posted them on the Internet where people can easily go back and see what they wrote:

  • Curt at Flopping Aces described the police captain as "the fraud we know as Jamil Hussein."
  • Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs mocked the AP and "their nonexistent news sources."
  • SeeDubya at JunkYardBlog categorically announced "There is no Captain Jamil Hussein," stressed "he doesn't really exist," that he's "non-existent," and suggested the AP source might actually be "Ayman Al-Zawahiri calling up the AP to give his version of events."
  • Armed Liberal at Winds of Change declared, "We don't believe [Hussein] exists."
  • Michelle Malkin mocked the AP's "bogus source Capt. Jamil Hussein."

Since Hussein is not fake, that means warbloggers are right back where they started, obsessing about a single AP dispatch filed Nov. 24, and claiming that one story somehow taints all the AP's reporting from Iraq. When I wrote a column pointing out the absurdity of that warblogger claim, arguing that they were extrapolating all kinds of dark inferences from a single news report about six deaths at a time when thousands of Iraqis were being killed each month (i.e. "Michelle Malkin fiddles while Baghdad burns"), warbloggers reacted with anger. They insisted I was missing the point, which was that the AP had manufactured a "fake" source in Jamil Hussein, and if the AP did that for one article, who knows how many other stories the AP faked. Meaning: Hussein was the tip of an enormous press scandal iceberg.

But now Iraq's own Ministry of Interior has confirmed Hussein's title, warbloggers are racing in reverse, insisting Hussein's existence was never the issue. (It "changes very little," SeeDubya assured his readers.) The disputed facts from the Nov. 24 dispatch, that's what warbloggers really wanted to nail down. Which, if you're following this loop, means that warbloggers just spent the last seven weeks and untold man-hours compiling a laundry list of vicious smears against the AP because warbloggers took issue with part of a single article the AP posted about Iraq. One article out of more than 10,000 articles the AP has posted about Iraq since the 2003 invasion.

To date, the warbloggers' admissions of errors have been grudging and brief, despite the fact they wrote enthusiastically and freely while lodging their nasty allegations. I'd estimate that over the last seven weeks, warbloggers have posted at least 40,000 words combined about the alleged Hussein scandal. By contrast, I'd estimate the combined expressions of regret so far have totaled less than 100 words. For instance, Malkin's belated mea culpa was posted late on Saturday night, perhaps the least-read time of the blogger week, and was attached to the bottom of a 900-word item that dealt with an unrelated topic (a different assertion that she had to correct). Warbloggers badger the press for "transparency," but they often show little use for it themselves.

Also, in Malkin's correction, she claimed she had nothing to be ashamed of for pushing the phony Hussein saga because she was simply asking "legitimate questions" about the AP. Actually, what she did was attack the AP for being part of the "terrorist-sympathizing, anti-Bush press" and dubbed it "The Associated (with terrorists) Press."

That's legitimate?

Meanwhile, the Hussein charade helped spotlight the perpetually low regard warbloggers have for the free press, particularly in times of war. Indeed, for warbloggers, the process of information gathering appears to be a simple one. Namely, if the U.S. government, or more importantly officials with CENTCOM, say something is so (i.e. Jamil Hussein does not exist), than that ends the discussion. Over and over again warbloggers announced they trust government officials more than they do journalists.

"I'm still willing to take the word of an officer in the US Military over others," announced warblogger Anchoress. (Keep in mind that the bipartisan Iraq Study Group recently concluded that for years, the U.S. military wildly underreported violence inside Iraq.) In reality that means you don't really need a press corps, because if wartime information is coming straight from the top, what's the point of filtering it through the press? More importantly, it means if journalists report something that contradicts CENTCOM, that simply proves reporters are dishonest and aiding the enemy.

And believe me, during the Hussein jihad warbloggers were quite vocal in claiming the AP was aiding Iraqi insurgents; was doing their bidding. "[M]any in the American media ... have a vested interest in exaggerating the violence [in Iraq] as much as possible," claimed Malkin. Little Green Footballs bemoaned "the Associated Press's right to lie to its customers and spread enemy propaganda" and insisted the global news outlet had been "hijacked by propagandists for terror gangs." Rick Moran declared that nobody needed "enemy propaganda coming from the AP."

The bottom line? Or at least the bottom line warbloggers excitedly stitched together? It was that the scandal over the AP's "fake," "bogus," and "non-existent" police source proved that journalists could not be trusted to tell the truth about Iraq. Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit excitedly posted this item in late November:

MORE REPORTS OF BOGUS IRAQ STORIES FROM A.P.: Kind of makes you wonder about the reporting from Iraq. Okay, it's more like "confirms your suspicions" than "makes you wonder," really.

Warblogger Bob Owens at Confederate Yankee was even more sweeping in his connect-the-dots assumptions:

This presents us with the unsettling possibility that the Associated Press has no idea how much of the news it has reported out of Iraq since the 2003 invasion is in fact real, and how much they reported was propaganda. The failure of accountability here is potentially of epic proportions. [Emphasis added]

In the end, the Jamil Hussein fiasco simply highlights the dramatic fall from grace warbloggers have suffered over the last 24 months. Following Memogate in late 2004, when warbloggers helped drive CBS' Dan Rather off the air for botching a report on Bush and his days with the Texas Air National Guard, warbloggers, basking in the glow of mainstream media acclaim, had a real chance to grow the right-wing blogosphere into something influential and politically important. Instead, today it's an outpost of misplaced arrogance. Turns out warbloggers are one-hit wonders, the Stealers Wheel of cyberspace. ("Stuck in the Middle with You," 1973.) As Jane Hamsher recently noted, warbloggers don't get their facts right, they don't fundraise, and they don't organize. By contrast, liberal bloggers just pitched in and helped orchestrate the Democratic takeover of Congress. Warbloggers? They incessantly Google AP articles from Iraq in search of questionable sourcing in hopes of proving their Holy Grail theory that journalists -- "traitors" -- are conspiring with Iraqi insurgents to throw the war.

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    • Author by smoothmedia (January 09, 2007 3:41 am ET)
         

      I hadn't bothered to read warblogs until you mentioned them a couple weeks ago, and now that I've read a few...I'm hooked.

      They are truly the "tin foil hat" crowd on the right, and their emotional and frustrated posts are comedic gold.

      Malkin now fills her blog with long quotations (of entire blog posts/articles) and only chimes in with the odd one-liner in between. I think the guy over at Junkyard Blog is the best of the bunch, which isn't saying much.

      You have completely exposed the lack of credibility of these warbloggers with your coverage of their Jamilgate hysteria.

      Thank you.

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (January 09, 2007 6:10 am ET)
         

      The warbloggers also won't recognize that the extensive CBS investigation failed to establish that the "rathergate" memos were indeed forgeries, the linchpin of their argument against CBS.

      In fact, the investigation adequately rebutted all of those bloggers' explanations about how the memos were created. That means the worst that could be said about Rather is that he failed to certify his sources.

      The MSM, too, has failed to note this fact-- the received opinion is that the memos were forgeries, though no evidence exists to support this claim.

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      • Author by tryingtolearn606259069 (January 09, 2007 8:34 am ET)
           

        Umm, it's not up to anyone to "disprove" the memos CBS and Dan Rather put forth. It's up to THEM to prove their authenticity, something they have still failed to do. Any decent journalist or fair news organization knows this, and would have done their homework ahead of time. Their actions were deplorable and they deserve all of the scorn they have received.

        I find it amazing that their are STILL some lefties out there that throw out the tired meme of "you can't prove they're forgeries." HELLO?!?! Prove they're not. The onus is on you. And then to turn around and criticize others for not having their facts straight? Hypocrisy to the extreme. Also demonstrates the intelligence level we're dealing with.

        Now, before group think sets in and I'm blasted for daring to challenge the sacredness of all that is holy in lefty-land, I think everyone involved in this affair with the AP should apologize and retract their statements. When you're wrong, you're wrong (are you listening Dan and CBS?)

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        • Author by zerosumgame0005 (January 09, 2007 11:14 am ET)
             

          then when you can learn and think, you can read as well...

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        • Author by zerosumgame0005 (January 09, 2007 11:15 am ET)
             

          who need to put up or STFU, demanding that CBS prove a negative is illogical at best, dishonest in all other cases.

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          • Author by cicero418 (January 09, 2007 12:02 pm ET)
               

            "oh, and BTW it is the ones questioning the validity who need to put up or STFU, demanding that CBS prove a negative is illogical at best, dishonest in all other cases.

            - zerosumgame0005 / Tuesday January 9, 2007 11:15:57 AM EST "

            Actually, you are the one asking the memo critics to prove a negative. There actually is no way to conclusively prove fake or real, anyway, since the only things available are copies of copies, the originals being long gone.

            The overwhelming evidence is, however, that the memos are fake. Others have done it better that me, but you look at the kerning, the proportional font, the superscript, the various formatting errors, etc.

            And to get back to the main topic, i.e. the Burning Six story, the attictude by the left seems to be that, because we now know Capt. Jamil exists, that the story is true. That's like saying that because Killian exists, the Rathergate memos must be true.

            Where are the bodies? Where are the destroyed mosques? Where is the video supposedly shot of the carnage? Where is the corroboration?

            Later,

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            • Author by magnolialover (January 09, 2007 12:46 pm ET)
                 

              You have been paying attention at all to what has been going on in Iraq for almost 4 years now, you would realize that deaths are being underreported, and that there are so many bodies in the street, not all of them are recorded, and that the morgues are so overwhelmed, some bodies just rot away in the streets. Where are the bodies you ask? Probably still out there somewhere, or they have been collected, couldn't be identified, and then tossed into a mass grave for bodies found during this crazy time period in Iraq.

              I would also love to see Malkin walk the streets of Baghdad. She probably would never leave the Green Zone, just like everyone else, because frankly, the military can't guarantee their safety. But hey, if she wants to get down to brass tacks about what is going on over there, I suggest she get herself a flight over, and then walk the streets without bodyguards, military escort, or anything else. Methinks she would pee her pants with fear before even leaving the Green Zone.

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            • Author by rrhain3658 (January 09, 2007 4:58 pm ET)
                 

              You need to re-examine the story. I forget the specific model, but the text looks like it came off of a version of an IBM Selectric. All of the features that you have mentioned were available on a typewriter that was commonly used in the military at the time. It allowed proportional fonts, superscripts, etc.

              There is no evidence that the document is a fake based upon looking at the document. What is problematic is that the document came from a source with an agenda. This is bad for Rather in the sense that upon knowing that the source had an agenda, he should have just not used the document in the story since everything else in the story corroborated what was mentioned in the document and there was no need to use it.

              And that's the point that everyone glosses over: Nobody has yet to indicate that the actual information in the story (Bush shirked his military duties) is anything but true. This is what distinguishes Rather from the right-wing warbloggers: Get rid of the infamous memo from Rather's story and does it fall apart? No. Everything else in the story is strongly documented and works to justify the claim. The memo was icing on the cake.

              But get rid of the claim that Hussein wasn't real from the warbloggers' story and does it fall apart? Yes. They're entire claim rests upon that single piece of information.

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              • Author by cicero418 (January 09, 2007 5:26 pm ET)
                   

                From Wikipedia: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

                "Phinney's analysis was based on the fact that the typography of the Killian documents could be closely matched with a modern personal computer and printer using Microsoft Word with the default font (Times New Roman) and other settings. Therefore the equipment with which the Killian documents were actually produced must have been capable of matching the typographical characteristics produced by this modern technology.

                As Phinney explained, the letterspacing of the Times New Roman font used by Microsoft Word with a modern personal computer and printer employs a system of 18 units relative to the letter height (em), with common characters being 5 to 17 units wide. (The technology allows even finer variability of character widths, but the 18 unit system was chosen for compatibility with the Linotype phototypesetting and earlier hot-metal versions of the font.) In contrast, the variability of character widths available on early 1970s typewriters using proportional letterspacing was more limited, due to the mechanical technology employed. The most sophisticated of these machines, the IBM Selectric Composer, used a system of 9 units relative to the letter height, in which all characters were 3 to 9 units wide. Less complex machines used fewer widths.

                Differences in individual character widths accumulate over the length of a line, so that comparatively small differences would become readily apparent. Because of the differing character widths employed, the letterspacing exhibited by the Killian documents (matching that produced by a modern computer and printer) could not have been produced with a mechanical typewriter using proportional letterspacing in the early 1970s. At the time the documents were purportedly created, the matching letterspacing could only have been produced using phototypesetting or hot-metal printing. Since it is not a realistic possibility that Killian would have had these documents printed, Phinney concluded that they are almost certainly modern forgeries."

                Later,

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                • Author by masonmcd (January 09, 2007 10:53 pm ET)
                     

                  MS Word was developed to mimic good typography.

                  You act as if fonts, kerning, and character spacing on the computer is some weird ju ju.

                  It is intended to represent the physical medium of a good book. As was the Selectric. It's not a damning coincidence they appear similar. As they say, this is a feature, not a bug.

                  Times New Roman, Palatino, Bookman, etc. are antiquated fonts - pre-computer.

                  Microsoft *wanted* computer typography to match its physical counterpart.

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                  • Author by heru (January 10, 2007 5:41 pm ET)
                       

                    You (Cicero) act as if fonts, kerning, and character spacing on the computer is some weird ju ju.

                    - masonmcd

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                    ROFLMAO

                    Rush Limbo convinced these Yahoos that fonts are a left wing conspiracy

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                  • Author by leatherhelmet (January 11, 2007 2:54 pm ET)
                       

                    could produce those letters on a typewriter from the 70s. No one.

                    Yet everyone who can read the blog can reproduce it perfectly using Microsoft word.

                    Get it yet?

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            • Author by solon (January 09, 2007 11:50 pm ET)
                 

              The errors claimed have been debunked. The superscripting for instance White House supplied documents from the same time show the same superscripting. The claim the font didnt exist was wrong each of their specific claims have been debunked what cannot be done is to authenticate them. For the same reason they cant be shown to be forgeries they are copies.

              What AP did was say they had a source that had proven accurate in the past. They did, he exists if the story is wrong which it COULD be then this time their source was wrong. AP is as vulnerable as anyone to having a trusted source mislead them so the lefts position, at least MINE, since I cant speak for the left is that since they have shown their source IS someone who exists who they have used in the past and been shown to be accurate THEY ARE VINDICATED. Meanwhile the bloggers who said he DIDNT exist are flat out wrong and since what THEY claimed was AP used a fake source and no such person existed they owe AP an appology. IF they had limited their criticism to the story, they wouldnt have been discredited but that wasnt enough for them they tried to smear AP and they were WRONG.

              As for the burning bodies what do they need to do show you pictures? AP says the corroborated this with the morgue. If only people had been HALF this skeptical while Bush lied us into this war we wouldnt be in the mess in the first place. Since bodies are being found every day tortued and executed why is this so hard to believe?

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        • Author by solon (January 09, 2007 11:39 pm ET)
             

          CBS should have known better than to go with copies. They did send them to the White House which never objected and that may have lulled them but they did blow it they couldnt authenticate it and they paid the price. Having said that what they DID do was authenticate the CONTENTS. They brought in the woman who typed Killians memos who said directly that they DID accuratly portray the way Killian thought of Bush and that she had typed memos LIKE them. I think your criticisms of CBS are valid. Too bad they screwed up and let the MEMOS become the subject instead of the CONTENT which they could and DID show.

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        • Author by jeremy1279 (January 10, 2007 2:47 pm ET)
             

          The secretary for the officer said that while she couldn't verify the authenticity of the memos, they were an accurate representation of how her boss felt about George Bush's disgraceful military service.

          Once again, we're caught up in the ridiculous minutae when the larger issue has basically been settled: Our president only partially fulfilled his military obligation, likely went AWOL for part of it, didn't show up for multiple assignments, and was treated with kid gloves because of his family connections.

          If warbloggers want to go all nutcase on whether or not the font of the letter is historically accurate, go crazy. But the reality is we've got an administration that has extremely limited exposure to war and/or combat, and has thus made a waterfall of moronic wartime decisions that has put this country in one of the biggest foreign policy and national security policy disasters in our history.

          But yeah, let's argue some more double-negatives. That'll get the humvees armored properly.

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      • Author by leatherhelmet (January 11, 2007 2:50 pm ET)
           

        Repeating Mapes' contention that the investigation cleared her is a a joke.

        The Rather documents were fake. Mapes claims she is a reporter not an expert in forgeries is so incredibly shallow it is laughable.

        The documents have been proven to be be fake over and over and over again. There was a $10,000 challenge to anyone who could reproduce them on a typewriter, no one could do it. No one. That's because it couldn't be done.

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    • Author by BrooklynC (January 09, 2007 7:37 am ET)
         

      I would love to know if anyone has analyzed what drives these people. They write with the enthusiasm and imagination of a teenage boy with the latest issue of Playboy. Their version of reality is just as bleached, surgically enhanced, and airbrushed, and the result is just as predictable.

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    • Author by Timmee (January 09, 2007 8:12 am ET)
         

      To the cultists who put belief before observation, all the "facts" all this information is just scaffolding they stand on while they work on their prreconceived construct or idea. In this case, that idea they were working so hard on is discrediting the press.

      They finished their "art" and kick the scaffolding away.

      Sure, intellectually honest people require that the base of their argument (and especially the initiating idea) still be solid under their conclusions, but we aren't talking about people for whom the reality was EVER important. That's why they can have the audacity to claim that it doesn't matter whether this policeman exists or not. They "believed" before this particular mess came to the forefront and they will continue to do so now.

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    • Author by pmse57 (January 09, 2007 11:10 am ET)
         

      The Hussein confirmation so exposes the warbloggers total corruption that you have to assume that, unless they are completely neurotic, there core ideologies are quaking and close to crumbling. Lets just see if any of them are honest and human enough to use this 9.0 earthquake to more honestly review and rebuild their central principles and beliefs.

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    • Author by mikedidier6471 (January 09, 2007 12:01 pm ET)
         

      I say we let Michelle Malkin walk the streets of Baghdad for a few minutes to enable her to finally get the 'real story' as to what's happening over there. What does everyone think? www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com

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    • Author by jmaharry (January 09, 2007 12:24 pm ET)
         

      Beautifully reasoned, powerfully supported. In a better world, this would silence the wing nuts-in-denial, and the prevaricators like Patterico. No doubt they'll continue to grind out their dirty lies, their cross-congralatory posts, their hate-filled diatribes.

      Still, for those of us who live above ground, your piece has settled the matter.

      Thanks very much.

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    • Author by wookie (January 09, 2007 1:32 pm ET)
         

      Another example was the Newsweek Koran abuse story. Conservative bloggers got alot of mileage out of claiming it was false until the military confirmed it.

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    • Author by Pithaughn (January 09, 2007 1:43 pm ET)
         

      Republicans, true Republicans who are for smaller goverment, against international adventures and nation building, who value moral responsibities, should examine the disservice the right wing media outlets and personalities have done to thier reputaion and standing. By parroting each other in a closed off echo chamber, their loyal readers and viewers never heard dissenting points of view. Eventually, a good number of the right wing public did find out what a load of crap has been foisted on them and voted accordingly. If the rigth wing media had been true to being journalists, investigators and purveyors of truth, instead of salivating over their percieved influence of the White House, Legislature and Courts, they would have been holding Bush et al accountable for mistakes and lies. Instead, the right media became an extension of Rove's propaganda apparatus.

      Comments?

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    • Author by morte (January 09, 2007 2:58 pm ET)
         

      The only problem with the analysis is that it presumes Malkin had credibility to begin with. As near as I can tell, Malkin's credibility lay only with the xenophobes in this country who think Muslims are the greatest threat to Western Civilization.

      Remember, this is a "journalist" who degended the Japanese internment. That was the moment for me when Malkin showed her true colors.

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    • Author by omerus (January 09, 2007 3:42 pm ET)
         

      I admit to being a "word" nut. The nuances of words people use never fail to amuse and entertain me. I.e. : I am "right brained" but "left leaning" is how one person summed me up. It still makes me laugh.

      You gave me another laugh when you brought up Ms. Malkin. As a collector of unusual words I only recently acquired this little number:

      malkin (MO-kin, MAL-kin) noun

      1. An untidy woman; a slattern.

      2. A scarecrow or a grotesque effigy.

      3. A mop made of a bundle or rags fastened to a stick.

      4. A cat.

      5. A hare

      Credit goes to [link to wordsmith.org]

      Thanks for the laugh!

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      • Author by rrhain3658 (January 09, 2007 5:03 pm ET)
           

        If she has, then there should be a never-ending chorus regarding hers.

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    • Author by daganium4595 (January 09, 2007 4:12 pm ET)
         

      ...Making crap up on the fly is her modus operandi. Unfortunately, there is a huge demand for that supply.

      In case you haven't noticed they (ie, the Malkinesque conspiracy theorists) are similar to George Bush & the neocons.

      The warbloggers are, by and large, (just like their Hero, George Bush, & the insane neo-con cabal) conspiracy theory wackos.

      Which is a huge downside of the introduction of the internet...

      ...it suddenly provided the otherwise silenced and maginalized conspiracy theorists a forum by which to present their conspiracy theories. Enter the warbloggers; enter George Bush's lunatic fringe suffering from bloodlust.

      And as long as M. Malkin is around--and the internet is around--her conspiracy theories, no matter how absurd, will cater to a huge & rabid audience.

      Trading insults with her on the internet will never change a thing.

      Oh yea...conspiracy theorists always think you are lying to them in case you haven't noticed. And no, a robust presentation of fact &/or reality means nothing to them (because where's the fun in that?)

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    • Author by subtle (January 09, 2007 5:21 pm ET)
         

      These right-wing, conservative hound dogs are so busy, and used to, smelling each others hind quarters that they can't believe everyone else doesn't like the smell too. Their constant licking and sniffing has resulted in their being unable to catch the sent of reality as it gusts around them.

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    • Author by our.soldiers2754 (January 09, 2007 5:55 pm ET)
         

      So how is it that the warbloggers have any credibility at all? Or credentials for that matter?

      At least Malkin has a journalism background. Curt at floppingaces is a full time police officer (Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy). The domain contact info for his blogs lists his address as the LASD's Century Station.

      As far as I can tell he has no reporting background, no special knowledge of Iraq or the situation there and knows about as much as you'd expect him to have of events occurring 7500 miles from Southern California in a war zone.

      I find it quite remarkable that the AP even has to respond to his irresponsible and fact-less accusations, given that if this were 20 years ago he'd probably be just another crank in his garage typing out single-spaced pages of nutty conspiracy theories for an audience of no one.

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      • Author by jscott (January 09, 2007 7:33 pm ET)
           

        I wonder if LASD know this dedicated law officer is publishing his little blog on the office computer, possibly on the clock.

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    • Author by Chromium (January 09, 2007 6:28 pm ET)
         

      EB cites(!), but has he ever responded to his lack of credibility?

      Here is Boehlert:

      With no facts to back up their allegations, warbloggers instead lean heavily on name-calling in their never-ending attempt to libel and smear journalists. “The Western press is negligently or carelessly (I’m not ready to believe knowingly) passing along terrorist propaganda disguised as news,” announced warblogger SeeDubya at The Junkyard Blog. Talk about hubris — stateside warbloggers claim they have a better handle on what’s happening in Iraq than reporters who are actually there.

      Now here’s what See Dubya actually said, with my emphasis:

      As with Patterico’s story, there is a range of possibilities here. In both stories, the worst scenario is that the Western press is negligently or carelessly (I’m not ready to believe knowingly) passing along terrorist propaganda disguised as news. But even the best case scenario in each one involves some notable journalistic malfeasance.

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      • Author by funnymanpants (January 09, 2007 9:02 pm ET)
           

        Sorry if I am missing something from your post (it is hard to read in all bold), but Boehlert did address this very issue. He printed what he said and what the critic said, and he then concluded that his (Boehlert's) quote hardly changed its meaning.

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        • Author by Chromium (January 10, 2007 9:27 am ET)
             

          Leaving out "the worst scenario is that" changes the meaning significantly. To leave that phrase out without even inserting the ellipses to show something was left out is journalistically terrible. At least the infamous Maureen Dowd puts ellipses in when she misinforms.

          So if EB cannot quote people correctly, he has lost credibility when he then tries to summarize their statements.

          EB also does not update his posts--Malkin has apologized, as have others.

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          • Author by funnymanpants (January 10, 2007 10:23 am ET)
               

            It hardly changes the argument at all. Patterico suggests that the media is recklessly and carelessly helping the enemy, a completely stupid statment especially in light of the facts. EB is correct in pointing out how dumb the statment is, whether Patterico meant is could only be the worst case scenario.

            You don't need elipses if you quote as EB did. You only need them if you leave out text in the middle of a statment.

            EG correctly summarized the stupidity of the war bloggers in his post. Do you care to comment on how wrong the war bloggers were and how they refused to admit that? He quotes numberous examples.

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          • Author by open_mind (January 10, 2007 11:55 am ET)
               

            I agree to a point that EB was wrong in the way he mischaracterized the warblogger's statement. It was sloppy and EB should have been more contrite about the mistake.

            However, because EB directly linked to the remarks he was quoting, it should be pretty obvious he wasn't trying to hide anything.

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    • Author by rivercitymadman (January 09, 2007 11:54 pm ET)
         

      if this Michelle Malkin [link to web.archive.org] is the same Michelle Malkin we all know and loathe, admittedly this is an archive of a FAQ written in 1993, but would her fans be interested to know if this is the same writer?

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    • Author by pcbirddog22079 (January 10, 2007 12:54 am ET)
         

      but his real name is Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim, then of course the MOI wouldn't have a record of him. What's more, a Captain Jamil Gulaim at the MOI has denied being AP's source, according to Malkin.

      If AP knowingly used a pseudonym for the police captain, then they committed an ethical breach because they have continuously maintained that there is a person whose real name is Jamil Hussein.

      If Jamil lied to AP about his last name, then AP should have turned up his real name weeks ago after he relayed highly questionable information about destroyed mosques and burned Sunnis. This would be a minor offense by AP, showing that they didn't exercise enough due diligence.

      If it turns out that "Brig. Abdul-Karim Khalaf never acknowledged that there was a Capt. Jamil Hussein assigned to the Khadra station, he confirmed to the AP that there was a Capt. Jamil Ghdaab Gulaim assigned there [cite]," then AP was being deceptive and dishonest, putting their credibility very much in question.

      If it turns out that MOI had a record of Jamil Hussein and his name truly is Jamil Hussein, then the MOI has a serious problem, and the bloggers who took MOI at its word should put crow in their diet for a few days.

      But there remain unanswered questions. Why is it that an AP stringer has access to Jamil but no other news outfit or blogger is able to get in contact with him? Why is it that Jamil is named as a source in 40 stories but there is no corroboration from other news organizations about these events? Why has AP quietly changed its story about the destroyed mosques without issuing any corrections? Why has no other MSM group been able to corroborate that six Sunnis were doused with petroleum products and set afire?

      As it is, the Jamil issue is not yet settled until further confirmations are made.

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      • Author by Timmee (January 10, 2007 9:14 am ET)
           

        "Why is it that an AP stringer has access to Jamil but no other news outfit or blogger is able to get in contact with him?"

        Last I heard he had been arrested for talking to the press and wasn't being allowed to comment until this "mess" is sorted out. When the Iraqi's confirmed his existance, they had him in custody.

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        • Author by pcbirddog22079 (January 10, 2007 10:37 am ET)
             

          Jamil is not under arrest. He faces arrest--according to AP--and would only be arrested if AP were willing to identify him in a lineup, which won't happen. It's ironic that Boehlert's main point in this post is about bloggers refusing to admit errors, yet so far he has refused to admit his own error, even when it was specifically pointed out to him.

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          • Author by open_mind (January 10, 2007 11:58 am ET)
               

            Even when the warbloggers are proven wrong, they nitpick about mindless details.

            It's over. Who gives a crap?

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            • Author by pcbirddog22079 (January 10, 2007 12:47 pm ET)
                 

              it's their "credibility, RIP". When Boehlert is proven wrong, it's nitpicking over mindless details. It's unfortunate to see your hypocrisy in such full bloom. I hope there's a cream or something for that.

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              • Author by open_mind (January 10, 2007 1:33 pm ET)
                   

                Whether or not a human being actually exists vs. whether someone is under arrest or subject to arrest or whatever? Gimme a break!

                I will grant you that both are wrong, but there is no comparisson at all as to the degree. Your analogy utterly fails in that respect.

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              • Author by jeremy1279 (January 10, 2007 2:52 pm ET)
                   

                Is there a cream for the 3000 soldiers who have died because of this conflict the warbloggers cheered on? And continue to cheer even though they won't enlist?

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      • Author by funnymanpants (January 10, 2007 10:29 am ET)
           

        >>Why is it that Jamil is named as a source in 40 stories but there is no corroboration from other news organizations about these events?

        Which events are you talking about? There are 40 stories here. Are you saying that in all 40 the AP was the only source to cite the violence?

        I don't see why it is so unbelievable that the AP is the only source to report the burning alive story. Do you think reporters are everywhere, and that there is so little violence in Iraq that different reporters would garvitate to on episode, when there are dozens every day?

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    • Author by pcbirddog22079 (January 10, 2007 11:02 am ET)
         

      Bob Owens checked 40 out of 61 stories where Jamil was the source. The conclusion: "Put bluntly, a search for other news agency accounts of the events described by Jamil Hussein seems to indicate that most of these events simply do not exist anywhere else except in AP reporting. I was completely unable to find a definitive corroborating account of any of Jamil Hussein's accounts, anywhere." The issue isn't just Jamil's existence, but his credibility. It looks like he's been lacing plenty of unverified rumors into his reports to AP, and AP was mostly willing to just transmit it uncritically. The burning mosques and torched Sunnis were merely the tipping point.

      I know that reporting is hard to do in Iraq, but Iraq is one of the most important issues in America, and it's important that we should know which are the facts, which are the rumors, and what information is unverified. AP has fallen well short of doing that. I'm glad they're there, but I'd rather they'd stop doing such a piss-poor job of it.

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      • Author by magnolialover (January 10, 2007 1:01 pm ET)
           

        Just because the AP has a source that they have cultivated and have access to, and that he only gives stories to the AP, or comments to them? This disqualifies that source? Come on. There are lots of new sources that only give information to one news company (an example that comes to mind was Deep Throat during Watergate for the Washington Post).

        Just because nobody else is using this particular source, does not mean that said source is not valid. That's a weak argument.

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        • Author by bruce1ace (January 10, 2007 1:10 pm ET)
             

          Nobody else is reporting on these events of these 40 stories. That's the point of the matter. If Jamil Hussein is your only source for reporting an event, did the event actually take place? If the event took place, there should be multiple sources and multiple news agaencies reporting on it.

          That is the argument.

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          • Author by open_mind (January 10, 2007 1:40 pm ET)
               

            "If Jamil Hussein is your only source for reporting an event, did the event actually take place? If the event took place, there should be multiple sources and multiple news agaencies reporting on it." --Bruce

            ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

            Has it been established that Jamil Hussein was the only source in those 40 stories? Can you provide a link. I am kind of new to this controversy, so please forgive my ignorance. If Hussein indeed was a sole source for the stories, AP should have at least mentioned that and at best not reported the stories. Again, it is contingent on whether or not he was a sole source.

            Secondly, considering the level of violence in Iraq, it is entirely conceivable that Hussein and/or other AP sources may have seen something other media haven't. Widespread violence (often perpetrated on journalists) can obviously have a negative impact on how widely an event is reported.

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            • Author by bruce1ace (January 10, 2007 2:25 pm ET)
                 

              Reading Mr. Boehlerts column, reading the right-wing blogs, reading supposedly unbiased analysis, I can only say that it is unclear to me what is true and what isn't. I don't see where either side can claim to know for sure what is going on with this story. Apparently, Jamil Hussein has been found. Whether or not the stories attributed to him are true, partly true or embellished is less clear IMO.

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        • Author by open_mind (January 10, 2007 1:18 pm ET)
             

          From my understanding, Deepthroat was validated because the information he gave was independently validated.

          I will admit that I haven't really followed this whole issue completely, but has AP verified that Hussein was their only source on all of these stories? I am generally against single sourcing, but I don't know for sure if that is the case here.

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          • Author by funnymanpants (January 10, 2007 3:48 pm ET)
               

            See:

            [link to seattlepi.nwsource.com]

            Hussein was not the original source of the disputed report of the attack; the account was first told on Al-Arabiya satellite television by a Sunni elder, Imad al-Hashimi, who retracted it after members of the Defense Ministry paid him a visit. Several neighborhood residents subsequently gave the AP independent accounts of the Shiite militia attack on a mosque in which six people were set on fire and killed.

            ...

            But the AP had already identified the captain by all three names in a story on Nov. 28 - two days before the Interior Ministry publicly denied his existence on the police rolls.

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      • Author by funnymanpants (January 10, 2007 3:33 pm ET)
           

        You linked to a blog which has the following at the top:

        "Because liberalism is a persistent vegetative state."

        The link then goes on to admit, right at the top:

        The only way I can do this is to take the 61 stories Curt found, Google the keywords and dates of the described events, and see if other news organizations can corroborate the details of the events provided. Those with LexisNexis access might be able to do a better job of verifying or disputing these accounts, but you get to research using the tool set you have, not the tools you would like to have. As I don't have the time to do a complete search, I'll attempt to search through roughly the first half of the 61 stories using Jamil Hussein as a source.

        He then admits:

        When I look for the defining characteristics, however, I look for the details that story that should make it unique, for instance using the details of the previous AP story-17 killed dora 6 handcuffed tortured April 29-and I'm unable to find it, Jamil Hussein or not.

        Am I doing something wrong here?

        You have got to be kidding me. Someone goes on a blind google search and can't find what he thinks should be there and then you use this article to imply that the AP stories are bogus?

        The site hardly proves anything either way. In fact, the article admits to multiple sources of some stories, but speculates that the source might be the same (the AP).

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    • Author by will_hunter (January 11, 2007 12:17 pm ET)
         

      It would seem that AP continues to have trouble coming up with the source that still doesn't exist.

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