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"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser

November 16, 2007 8:05 pm ET

Debate moderators overlook key questions

Through 17 debates this year, roughly 1,500 questions have been asked of the two parties' presidential candidates. But only a small handful of questions have touched on the candidates' views on executive power, the Constitution, torture, wiretapping, or other civil liberties concerns. (A description of those questions appears at the end of this column.)

Only one question about wiretapping. Not a single question about FISA.

There has, however, been a question about whether the Constitution should be changed to allow Arnold Schwarzenegger to be president.

Not one question about renditions. The words "habeas corpus" have not once been spoken by a debate moderator. Candidates have not been asked about telecom liability.

But there was this illuminating question, asked of a group of Republicans running for president: "Seriously, would it be good for America to have Bill Clinton back living in the White House?"

Though Republicans often claim that the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping of Americans is necessary to prevent "another 9-11," debate moderators have not once asked candidates about recent revelations that suggest the administration began its surveillance efforts long before the September 11, 2001, attacks, not in response to them.

But NBC's Brian Williams did ask the Democratic candidates what they would "go as" for Halloween.

No moderator has asked a single question of a single candidate about whether the president should be able to order the indefinite detention of an American citizen, without charging the prisoner with any crime.

But Tim Russert did ask Congressman Dennis Kucinich -- in what he felt compelled to insist was "a serious question" -- whether he has seen a UFO.

No moderator has asked a single question about whether the candidates agree with the Bush administration's rather skeptical view of congressional oversight.

But Hillary Clinton was asked, "Do you prefer diamonds or pearls?"

That last question came from an audience member at the end of the November 15 Democratic debate. It turns out, as first reported by Marc Ambinder, that the questioner would have preferred to ask a substantive question, but CNN only offered her the opportunity to ask about jewelry.

As Ezra Klein has noted, this is particularly shocking in light of the fact that the cable channel has made a big deal about the Clinton campaign planting a question about global warming in an audience recently. Planting questions about the future of the earth? Bad. Prompting someone to ask the first woman to have a legitimate chance of being elected president about jewelry preferences? That's just good television.

Incidentally, this isn't the first time CNN has gotten caught prompting an audience member to ask a frivolous question during a debate. According to a November 11, 2003, Associated Press report:

A college student who asked the Democratic presidential candidates at a debate whether they preferred the PC or Mac format for their computers says the question was planted by CNN.

The news network acknowledged Tuesday that a producer went "too far" in telling Brown University student Alexandra Trustman what to ask.

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In an editorial written for the Brown Daily Herald, Trustman said she was called the morning of the debate and given the topic of the question CNN producers wanted her to ask.

Trustman said she was "confused by the question's relevance," and constructed her own question "about how, if elected, the candidates would use technology in their administrations."

But when she arrived in Boston for the debate, Trustman wrote, "I was handed a note card with the Macs and PCs version of Clinton's boxers or briefs question" and told she couldn't ask her question "because it wasn't lighthearted enough and they wanted to modulate the event with various types of questions."

There are few matters more significant to the nation's future than whether the Bush administration's assumption of broad powers once considered to be the domain of dictators rather than presidents will prove to be a temporary condition, like the internment of American citizens during World War II, or the beginning of a sustained slide into totalitarianism, as described in recent books by Joe Conason and Naomi Wolf.

These are serious times. There is no guarantee that the next president will quietly abandon the Bush administration's embrace of torture and wiretapping and detaining people without charging them with crimes. There is no guarantee that the next president will ignore Bush's precedent and treat Congress as an equal branch of government. The political media's shocking indifference to these matters suggests that they think the nation will simply and spontaneously return to normalcy the moment George W. Bush leaves office, governed once again by the laws and principles and freedoms that have long constituted America's essential qualities.

But this is by no means a certainty, and helping Americans understand the approach the various candidates would take to these matters is perhaps the most important thing the media can do over the next year.

It's easy to imagine one excuse some journalists will offer for ignoring these matters: The American people just don't care about habeas corpus and wiretapping. They care about "likability" and whether they'd enjoy having a candidate "in their living room" for the next four years and whether candidates are "comfortable in their own skin." They just don't care about things like the Constitution.

That's bunk. Pure bunk, as recent polls demonstrate.

According to a poll conducted for the ACLU in October, 61 percent of Americans think the U.S. government should have to get a warrant before wiretapping conversations between American citizens and people in other countries -- and 51 percent strongly think that. Only 35 percent think the government should be able to perform such a wiretap without a warrant; only 24 strongly feel that way.

As The Mellman Group, which conducted the poll, explains, there is "both deep and wide" support for the notion that the government must get a warrant before wiretapping phone calls:

Support for this constitutional right is both deep and wide, cutting across every demographic segment. Whether they are old or young (age 60+ 53% warrants required, age 50-59 60%, age 40-49 64%, age 18-39 65%), more or less educated (post-grads 59% warrants required, college grads 61%, some college 63%, high school or less 60%), black or white (black 72% warrants required, whites 58%), upper class or lower (upper/upper-middle 62% warrants required, middle 57%, working/lower 68%) voters favor requiring warrants for government wiretaps of Americans' international conversations. Indeed, there is no segment of the electorate other than Republicans and conservatives among whom support for requiring warrants is less than 53%. Seventy-four percent (74%) of Democrats, 60% of independents, and even 46% of the President's own Republicans oppose tapping Americans' international conversations without a warrant.

Public demand for requiring warrants for government wiretaps of Americans' international conversations also cuts across geography. Large majorities in every part of the country favor requiring warrants: 66% in the West, 61% in the Northeast, 60% in the Midwest, and 58% in the South.

The same Mellman Group poll found that 75 percent of Americans -- three out of four -- think it is important for Congress to "take action now to require the government to get a warrant before wiretapping the international phone calls and emails of American citizens." Just as striking is the intensity of support for this position -- 48 percent of Americans say it is "very important" for Congress to take such action, while only 22 percent say it is "not too important" or "not at all important" (and only 12 percent say it is "not at all important").

The Mellman Group further found that only 28 percent of Americans said the following statement would be a "very convincing" reason to vote against a member of Congress: "The Member voted to make it harder to stop terrorism by requiring the government to get a warrant every time they wanted to wiretap the phone of an American they thought might be helping the terrorists." They added:

Going deeper, we explored whether a vote requiring individual warrants would call into question a Member's commitment to the war on terror. The answer was a resounding no. Just 36% said they would worry that a candidate who "took the view that wiretapping American citizens should require an individual warrant from a court ... was not tough enough to deal with terrorism." A 56% majority would not worry about a candidate's ability to deal with terrorism as a result of such a position.

Another recent poll, this one conducted by Belden Russonello & Stewart, found:

1. Majorities of American voters want the next president to support all five of the ACLU's core initiatives to restore the Constitution -- restoring habeas corpus, closing GITMO, not allowing the president alone to determine who is an enemy combatant, ending torture as U.S. policy, and outlawing eavesdropping on Americans without a court warrant.

2. A large number of voters are unhappy that Congress has not done enough to check the president and protect our constitutional rights. Many more voters believe that Congress has not done enough (49%) compared to only one in four (25%) who believe Congress has interfered too much with presidential power, and 24% who believe Congress has done a good job working with the president.

And just this month, a CNN poll found that 69 percent of Americans consider waterboarding to be torture and that 58 percent think the U.S. government "should not be allowed to use this procedure to attempt to get information from suspected terrorists."

The American people take these things seriously. It's time for the journalists who determine what the candidates have to talk about to begin to take them seriously, as well.

At least as seriously as questions about Halloween costumes, UFOs, and jewelry.

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Summary of questions about presidential powers, the Constitution, torture, wiretapping, civil liberties, and other related matters:

  • During the May 3 GOP debate, MSNBC's Chris Matthews asked candidates if they would support a constitutional amendment to allow California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), who was born in Austria, to be president.
  • During the May 15 Republican debate sponsored by Fox News, candidates were asked whether "enhanced interrogation techniques to include, presumably, water-boarding" should be used.
  • During the July 23 CNN/YouTube Democratic debate, candidates were asked, "Most Americans agree it was wrong and unconstitutional to use religion to justify slavery, segregation, and denying women the right to vote. So why is it still acceptable to use religion to deny gay Americans their full and equal rights?"
  • During the August 5 GOP debate, moderator George Stephanopoulos asked the candidates a question submitted by a viewer: "What authority would you delegate to the office of vice president? And should those authorities be more clearly defined through a constitutional amendment?"
  • During the September 5 Fox News GOP debate, Fox's Wendell Goler asked a question about "ending abortion as a two-step process -- rolling back Roe v. Wade, which would leave it legal in some states, and then a constitutional amendment to ban it nationwide."
  • During the September 5 debate, Fox's Carl Cameron asked about a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
  • During the September 5 debate, Goler asked about wiretapping mosques "even without a judge's approval."
  • During the September 5 debate, Goler asked, "Would you approve the use of torture if you felt it would prevent a terrorist attack?"
  • During the September 5 debate, Goler asked, "[D]o you feel President Bush may have overreached his constitutional authority in some actions after the 9-11 attacks?"
  • During the September 5 debate, Goler asked about the Defense Department's detention facility at Guantánamo Bay.
  • During the September 5 debate, Goler asked, "On the issue of executive power, would you grant your vice president as much as authority and as much independence as President Bush has granted to Vice President Cheney?"
  • During the September 26 Democratic debate, NBC's Tim Russert asked candidates whether they would support a "presidential exception to allow torture."
  • During the October 9 GOP debate, MSNBC's Matthews asked whether it would be constitutional to give the president a line-item veto.
  • During the October 9 GOP debate, Matthews asked candidates if they thought they would need congressional approval to take military action against Iran.
  • During the October 21 GOP debate, Fox's Cameron and Brit Hume asked about a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
  • During the November 15 Democratic debate, CNN's Wolf Blitzer asked candidates if "human rights [are] more important than American national security?"
  • During the November 15 Democratic debate, an audience member asked about post-9-11 profiling of "hundreds of thousands of Americans." Blitzer followed up by asking about the PATRIOT Act.
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    • Author by mefirst (November 16, 2007 8:29 pm ET)
         

      there are how many democratic candidates with only so much time and they get asked what they would "go as" for halloween?

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      • Author by roundhouse (November 16, 2007 10:03 pm ET)
           

        Yeah. We pretty much have a rock stupid press corp. and an over manicured debate format.

        Get em up there. Let them interact with each other. Put up an issue and let the each candidate riff for, I don't know, ten, fifteen twenty minutes or more. Open the floor to rebuttal and move on to the next topic.

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      • Author by mefirst (November 18, 2007 10:36 am ET)
           

        just watching the 60th anniversary show of meet the press.  at the end, russert said the two guests with the most appearances were....robert novak and david broder.  no debate about novak, but broder is the type the right wing loves to portray as a "liberal" pundit.  but as shown on this site, broder has a history of false and disparaging comments about democrats.  broder also said that karl rove was owed an apology for the things said about him in the plame cia outing.  this is in spite of the fact that everything said about rove turned out to be true.   rove was revealing to reporters plame's classified identity, and violating the security oath he signed.  bush should have kicked his ass to the curb when that became known, but it didn't happen.  so much for the claim of how bush has "protected" us.  what he protects are his loyal lackeys and the country be damned. 

        and to illustrate the right wing obsessions that they can never let go of,  there is a cartoonist distributed by tribune media services named wayne stayskal.  this guy constantly bashes al gore.  he published a cartoon on the seventh of this month that had two men talking about gore saying he had no plans to go back into government.  one man is looking for "the small print where he probably whispered 'other than the presidency, of course'."   it is less than two months until the primaries begin, gore could have entered the race at any time with a huge base of support, and this right winger is portraying him as some dishonest schemer.  it never ends.  

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      • Author by bruce1ace (November 18, 2007 10:38 am ET)
           

        Hillary has held a 20 point lead for months.  The numbers aren't changing.  She's not losing this, it's all over except for the voting part.  The Clinton name is viewed as a winning name as it is the only name that has won the Presidency for Democrats since 1976.  Democrats will not turn their back on a sure thing, and she is a sure thing to win it all.

        This is why she is getting more press, good and bad because she is the only candidate that matters, the polls are what they are and she is the story.

        Republicans - dead.

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        • Author by mefirst (November 18, 2007 2:02 pm ET)
             

          i'm aware of hillary's lead, and i've thought for months she would get the nomination.  that does not mean that the process does not go forward.  questions about halloween costumes are inappropriate when there is a limited amount of time for each candidate. 

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        • Author by solon (November 19, 2007 11:21 am ET)
             

          Its never over for Dems until the primaries actually start. The leads before them is all about the machine. When the candidates show up in the states and people SEE and HEAR them they often change their minds. Obama can give a speech like Hillary cant even dream of. Edwards message of economic populism is one that could catch fire at any time. If its still like this after the first BIG primary, THEN it will be over. Dems come from rightfield all the time. In 92 Clinton was nobody at a comparable point in the race.

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    • Author by paleocon (November 16, 2007 8:59 pm ET)
         

       who cares if 69% of americans consider waterboarding 'torture'- the same percentage probably consider watching political debates torture.

       

       

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    • Author by captfoster2 (November 17, 2007 1:11 am ET)
         

      Roundhouse, you said......

      "Yeah. We pretty much have a rock stupid press corp. and an over manicured debate format."

      I'm not so sure that the press corp/media is so much stupid as it is either cowed by the powers that be (the corporations that own them) or they are more interested in making/keeping the money over doing the right thing?

      The polls obviously tell what it is that "We the People" want.....

      It would be nice for the journalists and politicians to realize it!

      As for the debate.... if that is what those are..... If I asked these kinds of questions to my kids and I wanted them to take me seriously......Not likely to happen!

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    • Author by steeve (November 17, 2007 8:42 am ET)
         

      We have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of debates, so many that the mainstream media is sick of them and wondering why we have so many.  Surely we can squeeze in a couple that do not have an idiotic millionaire journalist in control?  How about a couple that tweak the format a tiny bit?

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    • Author by steeve (November 17, 2007 8:45 am ET)
         

      Incidentally, I gotta ask, has any republican ever been asked how they'll pay for anything?

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 18, 2007 12:54 am ET)
           

        No Steeve,

        The corporate media never asks a Con how he'll pay for anything.

        And when the Con says he's going to cut government spending:  they never ask him what programs or departments he'll cut.  (This might put the Con on the spot, and exose his sham talking point.)

          They're allowed to babble on, get a free pass, and for the right-wing lapdog press, it's just another day in business.  

         

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        • Author by conleytgwinn (November 18, 2007 8:08 pm ET)
             

          Why, that is so easy - even this flaming radical could supply the scripted answer (were any in the Corporate Media ever to ask such an unseemly question of these "good men", the Repugnants):

          "My administration would cut all the (liberal/progressive) earmarks, and all the waste due to poor business practices which the liberals and progressives have instituted. We would also eliminate subsidies for silly things like the arts - that money is far better deployed to support Corporate competitiveness in the global economy. Finally, we could save hundreds of dollars by weeding out welfare fraud, while cutting back the staffing of welfare-related programs; by instituting substantial fees for National ID cards, to be mandatory for all citizens from birth (we might as well recoup some of those welfare dollars before the lib-voting nogoods can spend them on drugs and Caddys); and hundreds more by eliminating entirely the EEOC, the EPA, and other such liberal nonsense."

          Well, there you have my platform!

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    • Author by ktsdad3212516 (November 17, 2007 10:19 am ET)
         

      The press is only interested in continuing whatever narrative about the candidates they've concocted.  The press is only interested in manufacturing an internecine battle between the candidates to service that narrative.  They've made these debates into little more than some cable network flogging some missing blond girl on a tropical island.... meaningless.

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    • Author by falltrees (November 17, 2007 10:36 am ET)
         

      Yes, it's bad when candidates plant questions, but that seems to be the only way they can get asked questions that are worth anything.

      Why do we need media "stars" asking questions anyway? Why not have a prominant figure from each party asking the questions? These are debates for the primaries, correct?

      Or, better yet, what if a historian, economist, prosecutor or even a former president asked the questions?

      What if Paul Krugman asked the questions? I'd watch that.

      The networks might want to ask themselves why the ratings for these debates have been so bad. Maybe they'd find that people are tired of the same moronic questions that tell us nothing but give the networks a ten-second edited-to-be-misleading soundbite. Maybe they'll realize the political process is garbage because they've made it so. Maybe they'll see that they've earned a spot in "Tom Brokow's Worst Generation".

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    • Author by cgm707 (November 17, 2007 4:58 pm ET)
         

      Does anyone know who to contact, to address this issue, that the questions the news moderators asks the candidates are often frivolous, or not the most important issues?

       Thanks,

      Chip 

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      • Author by MickD (November 17, 2007 7:48 pm ET)
           

        You need to go on the sites of the moderator (like CNN last time), and contact the news editors. They are beholden to corporate interests, so don't expect a reply.

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    • Author by DorisRussell (November 17, 2007 5:48 pm ET)
         

      But Tim Russert did ask Congressman Dennis Kucinich -- in what he felt compelled to insist was "a serious question" -- whether he has seen a UFO.

      Tim Russert is in my opinion the most biased man on TV against Democratic candidates other than anyone on FAUX. His assault on Hillary Clinton was disgraceful. I for one will never forget what he did or attempted to do to her. He is the ultimate egomanic and has in my view no credibility anymore. I would hope all Democratic candidates no longer appear on Meet the Press.

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      • Author by Sams Computer (November 17, 2007 11:06 pm ET)
           

        You're so correct and Doris...

        I'm so focused on taking back our country that I couldn't bring myself to say (You're So Right).

        Because I’m sick of Tim and his tired old slanted performance on Meet The Press! It's a very historic program and I'm afraid Timmy's job is embedded in concrete. BUT…

        If it was my show Timmy would be out of a job.

        I would want to see a more balanced show with three hosts. A Democratic, Republican and an Independent each with the opportunity to question and make comments with invited guests. Hosts O'Reilly, Olberman and Myself as the Independent.

        In a final segment of MY show I would have highlights of various comics such as Letterman, Leno, Colbert, Stewart, Franken and others such as the outrageous pundits.

        From the distant past, Will Rogers and Mark Twain types of satirical perspectives would be interesting to apply to our times.

        Dream on Sam I Am!

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 18, 2007 1:11 am ET)
           

        You're right Doris...

        Russert has become an absolute disgrace--a vain, corportate, toff.  I think his ego has run away with him.

        He seems to think he can twist and distort any statement in order to try to trap people, and make them look bad just by virtue of his gutterball question.  It's a very slimy type of "journalism"--right out of the Fixed News playbook.

         

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    • Author by MickD (November 17, 2007 7:50 pm ET)
         

      I have a band, and I wrote a song about the post-millenial ennui, called 'What is the What.' We're living the lie we desire to be...

      [link to www.myspace.com]

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    • Author by temphandle flyer52serf (November 18, 2007 12:56 am ET)
         

      I think a relevant question is to what extent the CIA and the NSA are running this country.

      I was pretty shocked to learn that there were 16 spy agencies. And the NSA employs 30,000 people?

      ”Extraordinary rendition” was not dreamed up by George Bush and Dick Cheney, (though they may have adopted it as their own.) ALL this is designed to put spy agencies above the law, and allow them to violate the Constitution.

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    • Author by navy_guy (November 18, 2007 9:17 am ET)
         

      "The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers... [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper." --Thomas Jefferson to G. K. van Hogendorp, Oct. 13, 1785. (*) ME 5:181, Papers 8:632

      Well, WE are witnessing today the manifestation of what Jefferson referred to as  the betrayal of the 4TH Estate, commonly known as the PRESS. BY  chicanery and distortion whereby THOSE entrusted with the sacred VOW of informing its citizens on the issues of the day, the corporate controlled airwaves of today sad to say simply obfuscate the TRUTH which ultimately leads to a slave-like and prostituted role thereby serving the ministers of government.  Is it any wonder that Americans today are probably the most illiterate and politically bereft people on earth?

      It is perhaps the most egregious of undertakings, since it undermines the very pillars of a free and open society.Tyrants of yesterday always  chose to reign in the PRESS as first step toward concentrating political power. A docile and confused citizenry can not act on reason and legitimacy to challenge  a corrupt and self-serving government.

      DO not expect even a semblance of the TRUTH from either entrenched PARTY of today. Bare a few brave souls like Kucinich and Ron Paul, the established array of candidates do the bidding of their financial controllers in an attempt to distinguish their positions as catering to the people all the while they align and permit a criminal government to go unchecked in a monstrous fabrication of legitimacy for its actions and betrayal of the CONSTITUTION.

      Americans of today would do well to heed these words of WISDOM and call to individual conscience written so brilliantly some 200+ years ago, to wit:

      That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 18, 2007 11:58 am ET)
           

        Well done Navy...

        If you haven't already, check out "Brave New Films'" latest:  Fox Attacks Decency and Fox News Porn.

        It's exactly what you're talking about.  The "news" reduced to corporate smut.   

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    • Author by Dem02020 (November 18, 2007 12:01 pm ET)
         

       

      The format of the debates between Abraham Lincoln and Sen. Stephen Douglas was simple: One of the candidates would begin by speaking for an hour; the other candidate then responded with an hour and a half; and the first candidate then closed the debate with thirty minutes.

      Equal time, and plenty of it, removing all possibility of being misunderstood by way of being constrained to a mere one minute or so, to explain your opinion on slavery, abolition, Kansas-Nebraska, or even the Mexican-American war (agents of Mr. Douglas had accused Mr. Lincoln of not supporting our soldiers in that war, and of voting against suppling them when he was in Congress; Mr. Lincoln defended himself completely from these accusations, in the ample time the debate format afforded him).

      There was no "moderator" or other questioner in these debates.

      Why not?

      I guess there was either a critical shortage in those days, of "media" hacks like williams matthews and blitzer, or maybe people had been under some strange impression that it was all about the candidates and no one else... that we only needed to hear them and their opinions, and not to hear anything at all during the debates and from the stage, by way of "media" (political) hacks, and whoever the heck they work for.

       

      A debate format allowing the candidates time to explain themselves on whatever issues they choose... unconstrained by the confines of cages a mere minute in size... and without the constant hacking of a williams matthews or blitzer (because who cares what think anyway, anyone?)

      Times sure do change, and so have political debates changed... for the worse.

       

      The debate format agreed upon by Mr. Lincoln and Mr. Douglas had included that they would alternate, from debate to debate, as to who went first (and closed).

      Mr. Lincoln went first in the first debate, and chose to open his remarks with these words...

      LINCOLN: "My Fellow-Citizens, when a man hears himself somewhat misrepresented, it provokes him... or at least I find it so with myself. But when misrepresentation becomes very gross and paplable, it is more apt to amuse him."

       

      Mr. Lincoln then went on in the balance of his hour, to represent himself to his Fellow-Citizens, and to the American People and the people of the world for all ages to come, including the present one... and he did so in a way that would have him as our 16th President in just a few short (but turbulent) years...

      There was no "media" hack to interrupt him every minute in his representation, or to ask him those all-important questions about halloween costumes and jewelry.

       

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 18, 2007 10:02 pm ET)
           

        Very well said Dem, thank you...

        The structure of the debates has become a travesty--a sad joke.  I recall watching the 2004 presidential debates and being absolutely dumbfounded at that PBS hack Jim Lehrer.  The joke is on the American people, but they're too dumb and apathetic to even let out a chuckle.

        But what's interesting is that no changes occur!!  No fresh ideas are even attempted.  The corporate media is locked in, like arctic ice, and petrified of actually trying to inform the American people.  It's much too dangerous for the corporate media to try having real debates.     

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    • Author by CognitiveDissonance (November 18, 2007 3:27 pm ET)
         

      Excellent post! Your questions are exactly the ones I've been waiting to hear at a debate since they started. Right now, we have so many serious problems in this country, but the issue of restoring the Constitution and correcting the balance of powers is one of the most important. In fact, addressing this problem will solve many of the others. The fact that no one is asking them is unconscionable. 

       I think the media has amply demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to be in charge of something so important as media debates. What they want from the debates and what the American people desperately need are diametrically opposed.  It's time to fire the media and turn this very important job back to the League of Women voters, who quite ably moderated all debates in the past. The fact that elections have been debased to the level of Britney and Paris stories just makes us even more contemptuous of the political process and the new lows it has reached.

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    • Author by copiousdissent.blogspot.com (November 18, 2007 7:09 pm ET)
         

      How about the expansion of Congress and the Commerce Clause of Article I

       

      Liberals never seemed to care after Hugo Black (Active KKK member of the Supreme Court Justice) reinterpreted the Commerce clause to allow all liberal big government policies, which were clearly unconstitutional.

       

      You liberals love to cherry-pick. 

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      • Author by mefirst (November 18, 2007 7:52 pm ET)
           

        hugo black did nothing by himself.  if he wrote a decision, he had to convince a majority of the court to go along with it.  for someone talking "constitutional", you don't seem to understand it.

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      • Author by solon (November 19, 2007 11:27 am ET)
           

        How about we listen to you SNIVEL somemore about how YOU dont like Supreme Court decisions. Do you think if you WHINE enough we will abolish the Supreme Court and just let YOU make the decisions. Show of hands, who here thinks copiousidiocy knows more about constitutional law than the Supreme Court. Where did you get your degree in Constitutional law again Copiousstupidity? Thats what I thought YOU conservatives sure like to snivel about things you dont understand

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    • Author by wenmax9740 (November 18, 2007 8:07 pm ET)
         

      what about a question about how the candidates view signing statements?

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    • Author by proudconservative (November 18, 2007 9:59 pm ET)
         

      I would agree that both party's candidates need to be thoroughly examined regarding their beliefs regarding the constitution, the judges they would appoint, etc.  Asking about Halloween is silly and wasteful.

      The great thing though is that when a candidate says something, then flip-flops, it can be readily seen on the internet.  It does give americans a better idea of who really shares a level of consistency that they desire in a candidate and then in how that individual may govern.

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 18, 2007 10:10 pm ET)
           

        Good point Proud...

        Guiliani's and Romney's flip-flops are unbelievable!  I'm glad you brought them up.

        It seems these two will say anything to get nominated.  Suck-up to any far-right nutball constituency to try to get a vote. 

        A great resource would be to google "The Real McCain," or "The Real Rudy."  Just astounding the pandering these Cons will reduce themselves, too.  It's embarrassing the flip-flops these guys have completed.

        Thanks again for pointing this out!! 

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      • Author by solon (November 19, 2007 11:30 am ET)
           

        You make two good points PC. The problem as I see it is these arent really debates, say in the Lincoln/Douglas vein. Rather a series of photo ops in each debate. They reward slickness and punish thoughtfulness and insight. They do serve A purpose but could be so much better they seem to me a missed opportunity.

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    • Author by roundhouse (November 19, 2007 3:29 pm ET)
         

      "Planting questions about the future of the earth? Bad. " JF

      Yes. Planting questions is bad Foser, no matter who does it. I don't want the Democratic version of Karl Rove politics polluting the peoples party. Screw Hillary and her personal Rove clone Mark Penn.

      Hand picked Democratic operatives asking hand picked questions at presidential debates? Not unheard of, but it is sleazy.

      And Wolf, after all the media noise about Hillary's driver's license equivocation, no follow up question for her monosyllabic response? Whatever.

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