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"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser

December 07, 2007 11:37 am ET

It isn't them, it's you

Every so often, a political reporter will lament the sorry state of the profession and its proclivity toward shallow, substance-free news reports that devote more attention to the horse race than to health care.

These lamentations often share certain characteristics: a focus on the failings of other reporters, or of the profession as a whole, while overlooking the reporter's own shortcomings; a suggestion that journalists are powerless to avoid covering nonsense rather than substance; and, most importantly, a scapegoat.

Time's Mark Halperin recently named a new scapegoat in an op-ed published in The New York Times: Richard Ben Cramer, author of a narrative of the 1988 presidential campaign titled What It Takes. Halperin wrote:

MORE than any other book, Richard Ben Cramer's ''What It Takes,'' about the 1988 battle for the White House, influenced the way I cover campaigns.

I'm not alone. The book's thesis -- that prospective presidents are best evaluated by their ability to survive the grueling quadrennial coast-to-coast test of endurance required to win the office -- has shaped the universe of political coverage.

Voters are bombarded with information about which contender has ''what it takes'' to be the best candidate. Who can deliver the most stirring rhetoric? Who can build the most attractive facade? Who can mount the wiliest counterattack? Whose life makes for the neatest story? Our political and media culture reflects and drives an obsession with who is going to win, rather than who should win.

Other than the Bible, there may not be a book that has been more widely read among Washington, D.C., operatives, activists, and reporters than What it Takes. I first read it at the impressionable age of 17 on the recommendation of my high school government teacher. I enjoyed the book, as did most of the people with whom I have discussed it over the years. Cramer is a gifted writer; his description of George H.W. Bush awkwardly bouncing a ceremonial first pitch at the Houston Astrodome is vivid enough that I can still see the event like it was yesterday -- even though I wasn't there and first read Cramer's description of it 15 years ago.

But Cramer's memorable assessment that, in contrast to Ronald Reagan, "at any one moment ... Bush looks like a dork" certainly didn't lead me to believe that presidential candidates were best assessed on such grounds.

Honestly, I can't imagine anybody coming to such a conclusion. But that's what Mark Halperin claims: that he and his colleagues have "too long allowed ourselves to be beguiled by What It Takes" -- and that because of the book, they not only focus on style over substance in covering campaigns, they actually believe that style is more important.

Maybe What it Takes really is to blame.

But it is worth remembering that before Halperin fingered Richard Ben Cramer's pernicious book for the decline of modern political journalism, reporters like Halperin tended to assign most of the blame to Matt Drudge.

One such reporter was ... Mark Halperin. Barely more than a year ago, Halperin was peddling The Way to Win, a book he co-wrote with John Harris about, basically, what it takes to win the presidency in the age of the "Freak Show" -- the authors' label for the kind of nonsense that dominates modern campaign reporting and, thus, modern campaigns. At the time, Halperin and Harris blamed Republican-leaning cybergossip Matt Drudge for the sorry state of affairs, confessing that "Matt Drudge rules our world."

(If a progressive politician blamed staff for mistakes this often, how would Halperin and other political pundits and journalists react? They would eviscerate the politician for passing the buck. They would, no doubt, conclude that the politician's failure to take responsibility for his or her own actions reveals a deep character flaw.)

Halperin and Harris made clear that they weren't invoking Drudge as a symbol of "new media" or of anything else: "[W]hen we speak of Drudge, we are not referring to him as a symbol. ... We do not invoke him as a universal metaphor. ... [W]e are talking about Drudge specifically -- a clever and erratic man who made his fortune working from apartments in Los Angeles and Miami."

But it isn't Matt Drudge's fault that Mark Halperin and his peers would rather talk about haircuts than health care -- not any more than it is Richard Ben Cramer's fault.

Though Halperin and Harris acknowledge that much of Drudge's material is inaccurate, that his "standards for sourcing and checking are dangerously low," that "Matt Drudge is salacious, reckless, superficial and unfair," and that he "leans right" politically, what is most striking about their chapter about Drudge is that at no point do they write that responsible journalists shouldn't take their cues from the frequently-wrong right-wing cybergossip.

No, Matt Drudge isn't to blame. Not when journalists like Halperin and Harris can't even bring themselves to include in a chapter about Drudge a simple statement that news organizations shouldn't follow his lead. If Matt Drudge rules their world, he does so as an elected representative, not a cruel dictator.

But, like Richard Ben Cramer, Matt Drudge is only one in a long line of scapegoats. Long before Drudge first typed the words "EXCLUSIVE! MUST CREDIT DRUDGE," media observers could see that something was wrong with their profession.

In a November 1992 Washington Monthly article, Katherine Boo declared that Maureen Dowd, then a Washington correspondent for The New York Times, was "changing the standards of mainstream political journalism, for better and worse." Boo explained:

She's funny frequently, sneering when necessary, earnest almost never -- a combination that makes Dowd, according to Washingtonian magazine, "the most feared" Washington reporter. She's also, hands down, the most imitated. Today's campaign planes and buses are freighted with Dowd disciples: hyperliterate capital-W Writers with an eye for detail and an ear for the shuffling going on behind the curtain.

[...]

So why is the Creeping Dowdism in political reporting starting to irritate me? [...] [W]hat's unsettling is the dark vision of the pointlessness of politics that Dowd and her followers deliver, a vision that an onslaught of bright images can't obscure. Preoccupied with the feints and counterfeints, the preposterous and the poseurs, they seem to believe, and then to promulgate, Dowd's own metaphor. The democratic process is reduced to Pirandello, to theater of the absurd. Trouble is, this audience can't get up and leave.

[...]

Yet among Dowd and disciples, the characterpainting continually shoulders out meaningful questions about what the pretenders to the Oval Office have in mind. Once Dowd allows us to know that [Bob] Kerrey has "large blue eyes and a light-bulb shaped head that give him the look of a bemused extraterrestrial," can we really take seriously the mechanics of his health-care proposal? Of course, in her preprimary profile of Kerrey, the health-care issue -- his campaign centerpiece -- never comes up. And why would it? In Dowd's character-centered conception, issues don't merit too much concern. They're largely props in "meticulous Kabuki dramas in which the candidates enact the themes they want to sell to voters in November."

[...]

To these bored and overexposed insiders, everybody eventually begins to seem absurd, predictable, incapable of sincerity, inspiration, or meaning -- undeserving of being "taken seriously."A game it is, then. Whoever pens the most metaphors wins.

In the midst of a generally excellent piece, Boo seemed to blame Dowd for the acts of others who should know better than to follow Dowd's lead and offered up the typical explanation for the supposed value in the Dowdian approach -- that the candidates' character and personality matter:

While it's perennially popular to diminish the importance of character in politics -- syndicated columns mocking voters for exaggerating its relevance were a staple of the primary season -- history suggests that personality matters a lot, whether it's Nixon's paranoia (hence dirty tricks in a campaign he had a lock on) or Jimmy Carter's distaste for confrontation (hence his occasionally poor decisionmaking) or Reagan's sunny detachment (hence today's economic miasma).

Of course character is important in choosing a president; of course personality will always play a role. The problem isn't that journalists think character and personality matter, it is that they are spectacularly bad at assessing these traits, and even worse at predicting how the candidates will govern as a result.

Remember: During the 2000 campaign, the journalists and pundits told us that George W. Bush was the honest one. The straight-talking Texan. They told us this over and over and over again, until many Americans believed it. They told us that George W. Bush could unite the country, unlike the divisive Al Gore. Heck of a job, Dowd.

The argument that journalists should focus on things like facts and policy isn't based on the premise that character and personality don't matter. It's based on the simple fact that the American people are far better at assessing character and personality than Chris Matthews and Maureen Dowd and Matt Drudge and Mark Halperin. And it's based on the fact that NBC and The New York Times have the time and resources to determine if the candidates' statements are true and consistent and logical -- but voters don't.

That's where we need journalists: to help us sort out what the candidates have done, what they say they'll do, how likely it is to work, and who will benefit. We don't need them to speculate about why they chose to wear brown shoes or three-button suits or what the music on their iPods says about their character. We can figure that out on our own. And we don't need them to tell us who is likely to win; we need them to tell us information that will help us decide who should win.

Mark Halperin knows that -- he must. Why else would he devote so much energy -- a book here, a New York Times column there -- to finding a scapegoat to blame for his own failures? It's simple, really: If Halperin thinks he and his colleagues have focused too much on personality and the horse race, he should just stop doing it. And urge his colleagues to stop doing it as well.

Halperin's New York Times op-ed ran on November 25. The very next day, Halperin posted 15 entries on his Time.com web site. Fourteen of the 15 dealt with the horse race and campaign tactics; the only exception was an entry about Vice President Cheney's irregular heartbeat.

Drudge isn't Halperin's leader. Drudge is his mascot.

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    • Author by captfoster2 (December 07, 2007 1:41 pm ET)
         

      Just wondering allowed here.......

      If anyone in any profession were to insist that someone else is to blame for their sloppyness or stupidity or idiocy, I can't imagine that person keeping their job for very long.....

      Imagine you are working at Burger King, you are not new to working but you are new at BK, you know by nature the difference between right and wrong, you are trained by whoever, whoever trains you wrong and you know that he did, yet you do the job that whoever had trained you, even though, you know it was the wrong training......

      You screw up big, again, always knowing that you were trained wrong and never saying a word, and you try to blame the guy that trained you for why you screwed up....... (Say that to your boss and see if are still working by the time he stops laughing!!)

      That's Mark Halperin and any other person that would use this kind of brainless thinking......

      FOX is to CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and most of MSNBC that Drudge appearantely was/is to Halperin....... Nice!

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      • Author by snoopy (December 07, 2007 3:02 pm ET)
           

        But Bush lowered the standards, remember? Heck, yesterday he gave out the wrong emergency hotline number for his housing mortgage initiative! He's apparently not too hot with the military vote anymore.

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        • Author by greatjob (December 08, 2007 1:36 am ET)
             

          Oh, you must mean Ed Rendell.

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          • Author by tex (December 08, 2007 9:12 am ET)
               

            The "secret" is to decide what you're going to do, and THEN seek out the "reasons" WHY you are acting the way you have for years.

            It's about HONESTY. Halperin ... and really almost all of Media (to see the contrast, think Olbermann and Al Franken, two isolated voices in a virtual wilderness) ... is doing what he is PAID to do, what pleases his bosses and the people he wishes to impress. He should be honest and tell us he REALLY has adopted this "character matters over all else" "JOURNALISTIC style" -- because it best serves the agenda of the rightwing. Period.

            Republicans don't WANT to talk about issue; issue stances really cannot be spun and framed very well, and it sometimes gets complicated. With CHARACTER as the focus, there is virtually nothing that happens or anything a "writer" might dream us as a hypothetical, a metaphor, or as a "hidden motivation" that cannot make its way to print.

            Ah, and discussing "character", one may easily play favorites, attacking those you wish to be brought down, and propping up those who you wish to praise. (This is the ability to take the exact same phrase delivered in exactly the same tone and volume, and claim Hillary to be "shrill" while McCain is "assertive and passionate". It's totally open to subjective depiction by the "reporter".) 

            With CHARACTER as the focus, there is no need to research, to work, to actually do the job of a journalist. They ALL are in the rumormonger business, just like Drudge, but as is pointed out, it's not Drudge's fault. He's just more honest about what he is: a remorseless rightwing shill. Halperin, DISHONESTLY, claims to be more, a noble laborer who becomes ignoble under the insidious influence of masters he cannot resist.

            Halperin is a hack, and he directs and edits a horde of hacks who do HIS bidding. He knows exactly what he's doing, and WHY. But he just cannot admit it. Because then he would have to resign. So he blames others, he blames "trends", he blames pernicious "influence" ... anything to avoid admitting the truth: He's in the bag with the Republicans, and he has no intention of (nor motivation for) changing.

            Damn that "Liberal Media"! 

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            • Author by Eddy3957 (December 08, 2007 1:37 pm ET)
                 

              Right.  A lot of good stuff in there.

              The cynical psychology you describe---reverse engineering /id based/truth-be-damned---is neoconlike.  Do they control ABC? CBS?

              Network TV seems to be a lost cause to a large degree, but it’s so important.  If it were possible to expand the number of networks greatly, it would be less likely for the moneyed and entrenched interests to so dominate.  They would probably have the internet similarly sewn up if there were only a handful of sites allowed.

               

               

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            • Author by greatjob (December 08, 2007 2:40 pm ET)
                 

              Uh huh. Your problem with character arguments is interesting considering the argument is based on personal attacks against people like Drudge.

              Here's an issue with some substance pertaining to your mocking tone about the "liberal media": why won't MSNBC run an ad supporting our troops because it's so controversial but will put up Keith Olbermann ("nonpartisan") to reiterate everything that appears on this "progressive" website?

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              • Author by mefirst (December 08, 2007 7:49 pm ET)
                   

                what ad?

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              • Author by Sueelldd (December 09, 2007 1:42 pm ET)
                   

                Greatjob

                That is a fine point, i detest all partisans, Drudge and Olbermann. The problem I have been trying to get across to all the partisans on here is that Olbermann is as bad as the FOX people and Drudge. The end does not justify the means.  People who want to divide America are bad on the right and the left, there is no difference. Some get outraged that I dare stand up and say that because I am questioning MMFA spokesman Olbermann, but again the ends do not justify the means.

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                • Author by conleytgwinn (December 09, 2007 2:00 pm ET)
                     

                  Again I take issue with your thesis! Dividing us is not necessarily a bad thing!

                  How else would one deal with those who are rapists, murderers, and hatewing idiots, or protect the "rest" of us from them? How would one find out about Bungle's latest attempt to seize the throne, except by dividing the FoxLies crowd from the Olbermanns, who tell us about his crimes? How else (should we ever need to engage in war) can we determine who is the enemy?

                  Division is much akin to discrimination, in that neither is inherently good or bad, but applications thereof can be either.

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                  • Author by greatjob (December 09, 2007 6:31 pm ET)
                       

                    Right. So bias is okay as long as it coincides with your own views.

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                    • Author by conleytgwinn (December 09, 2007 8:25 pm ET)
                         

                      No bias is implied nor is any stated - it is even an undesirable factor in making serious divisions or discriminations. Bias is only in play in applying such divisions, or discriminations to the detriment of one or another innocent party. Let's face it: some of our politicians are absolute liars, with evil intent. Think Bungle, or Cheney, or Gonzales, or Delay, or any prominent member of the Repugnant elite. To divide or discriminate between such liars and the rest of us requires no bias at all - merely the sense to see that all speech is not equal, even should it be free.

                      To deal with such liars is a challenge: is noting their status as a separator from humankind, sufficient in itself?

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                • Author by mefirst (December 09, 2007 9:06 pm ET)
                     

                  sueeld makes the phony comparison between faux and olbermann.  he may be a partisan, but he is not the lying misinformer that so many on faux are.  a totally bogus analogy. 

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              • Author by tex (December 09, 2007 7:33 pm ET)
                   

                GREAT JOB:

                You say: "Uh huh. Your problem with character arguments is interesting considering the argument is based on personal attacks against people like Drudge."

                RESPONSE: First, my "character argument" has to do with what is reported by reporters about politics; it has replaced substance-based reporting, and is overwhelmingly biased to the rightwing. It is REALLY "attacking" Drudge to claim the truth: that he does the bidding of the rightwing? He does not even deny it, and it is his work product, apart from his "character". Further, on his "character", I praised that he doesn't even try to be "fair and balanced", like FOX lies about, or like Halperin, to be "objective, but painfully influenced by bad urges." He's a rightwinger (and that's a character insult only if being a rightwinger is a bad thing! I think it is, but do YOU?)

                You say, "Here's an issue with some substance pertaining to your mocking tone about the "liberal media": why won't MSNBC run an ad supporting our troops ..."

                RESPONSE: The Rightwing constantly tell us that we "support our troops" by insisting they continue this unwinnable war, and further to refrain from criticizing political leadership from the Bush White House. I REJECT YOUR PREMISE AND YOUR FRAMING! I would submit that we best support our troops by providing them with competent leadership, and by NOT placing them in meatgrinders for no good reason (or, for a pack or lies such as the Bush White House put forward to justify their "preemptive invasion".)

                You continue, "...because it's so controversial (uh, YEAH. The ad was dishonest and untrue)  but will put up Keith Olbermann "nonpartisan") to reiterate everything that appears on this "progressive" website?

                RESPONSE: What does one have to do with the other? An Ad that supports the position put forward by every rightwing voice from Bill Krystol to Limbaugh to Hannity to the White House to the State Department to the Pentagon ... i.e. blind fealty to Bush's "stay the course" ... and Olbermann's lone voice of disagreement?

                Are you arguing that the MEDIA does not present us with a steady supply of WAR SUPPORTERS????? And thus Olbermann "outweighs" the opposing (administration's) view? 

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        • Author by Eddy3957 (December 08, 2007 1:03 pm ET)
             

          Damn those troop haters!

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    • Author by atheist (December 07, 2007 2:46 pm ET)
         

      Can I suggest to everyone ... when Sue or Tommy or any of the other wingnuts crap up the threads with their #1 "why is this here ?" posts, PLEASE do not respond to them !  Just submit your own post and get the thread back on track.  I'm getting really tired of having to go to page 2 or 3 before I can find a post of any substance. 

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      • Author by dbeden4153 (December 07, 2007 3:32 pm ET)
           

        Nice try, but people have suggested this before.  It's gonna happen, though I wish it didn't too, because it doesn't futher rational discussion.

         

        On a side note: What do ya'll think about labeling this brand of yellow-journalism "Dowdism."  If she was the first to pursue this, I think it should be named after her.  Then, when this pseudo-journalistic effort appears in the media, we can use some catchy phrase using that term.

         

        So someone help me out.  I'm looking for some catchy phrases denouncing "Dowdism" so that one day the media will actually talk about the issues that matter.  Post below and if I think of any, I'll post some too.

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      • Author by anotheramerican (December 07, 2007 3:50 pm ET)
           

        Atheist,

        Might I suggest you procede immediately to page 4? :-)

        Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It looks like some people like that type of discussion, hence the discussion.

        Having said that, we all have our pet peeves about other's posts. I know I have mine too. With regards to those posts and posters that bother me,I am trying to look at these like I do spam. I am doing my best to simply ignore those that bother me. Either that, or raise my own point and move on.  It may be tiring, but I'm afraid it goes with the territory.

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      • Author by tommy (December 07, 2007 6:12 pm ET)
           

        Atheist,

        Thanks for the mention, glad to know I am always near your heart.

        But if it's so laborious for you to stumble over substance-less posts, perhaps you could check yours at the MMFA door - actually it could use a good coat rack.

        Consider this directive a post of worthy substance....just so you won't skip it.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (December 07, 2007 3:14 pm ET)
         

      The image in my head is of Tim Carry as The Mask, shouting out,"Somebody Stop Me!"

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    • Author by Marker (December 07, 2007 4:03 pm ET)
         

      Sad but true,the MEDIA has become nothing better than the National Enquirer.

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    • Author by avedon (December 07, 2007 5:24 pm ET)
         

      Actually, they don't blame each other for the lousy state of the press, they blame me. That is, they blame the public for supposedly wanting to hear about drunken pop stars and dead gold-diggers 24 hours a day, even though we don't want to. "It sells papers," "It gets ratings" - that's the excuse. It's the stupid public that reads the crap they write and watches the rubbish they put on the air - and when we complain about it, they insist that they know what we want and we don't.

      I don't know where on earth you got the idea that they'd read the Bible, either. They've read - or heard - a list of quotations that someone else made famous, but I sincerely doubt many of them have actually read the book.

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      • Author by tbone (December 07, 2007 6:29 pm ET)
           

        Avedon, I am afraid that it is our fault.  I would argue that your "average" MMFA reader is more informed on the issues than most.  But if you go into the wide blogosphere and/or look at the "person" on the street interviews, the lion's share of the electorate are nominally informed at best, poorly informed in general, and actively misinformed at worst.

        Local and network news are still somewhat fact based, but present little "analysis" anymore. Cable news is nearly always presented with some level of spin and cable talk is dreck - agenda driven and almost never factual or balanced.

        The sideshow barkers continue to find their audiences and thrive because much of the electorate continue to want to be told how to think "I don't have time to read.". 

        Glenn Beck?! - need I say more?  That guy couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag and yet there he is on a nationally syndicated cable news network.

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        • Author by steeve (December 07, 2007 6:58 pm ET)
             

          Glenn Beck disproves your point.  His ratings have never been anything but poison.  The public doesn't want him, and never did.  Yet there he is.

          The media is not about money or reflexively feeding the lowest denominator.  If it were, the media would make decisions advancing those goals, such as pandering to Bush-haters or covering the issues cited in polls as most important.  Instead, they are about bias and advocacy.  That, and they're irretrievably stupid and lazy.

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          • Author by mefirst (December 07, 2007 7:04 pm ET)
               

            the media is very much about money, as in the big corporations that own the media.  they want the republicans in power.

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            • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 08, 2007 12:10 am ET)
                 

              Mefirst, you're right about the mainstream media, of course, but there are more than a few of our fellow Americans who believe the bar needs to be lowered.

              If you didn't catch Bill Moyers' Journal tonight, I recommend it. It centered on the effects of the "new media", internet, on politics, and was pretty interesting. For every site like this one and the others that try elevate the sad state of our media, there is a blogger or youtuber, or just a disturbed loner who thinks the media is too responsible.

              The only warning I would give before watching that hour is that it had me, somebody who is desperately hoping that somebody better than Hillary Clinton will be our next president, about ready to go out campaigning for HC.

              The anti-Hillary videos played on the show made a couple of things very clear;There are a number of Americans who spend a lot more time creating youtube videos than they do absorbing anything that's really going on, and there is a group of far-right wing guys with camcorders who apparently are very insecure about their masculinity.

               

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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 08, 2007 12:24 am ET)
                   

                http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1272014315/bclid1125909605/bctid1328166808

                Speaking of anti Hillary videos, I'm not sure if this is a joke but it's unreal.

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                • Author by ripper76 (December 09, 2007 1:15 pm ET)
                     

                  You're not sure if that's a joke??? Are you serious?

                   That speaks alot about you.

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              • Author by juliajayne (December 08, 2007 10:05 pm ET)
                   

                HBL, please retract your statement about disturbed loners. I am a loner and we loners are people who don't really care what other people think or do. In fact, people do not really figure into our existence all that much , except that we tend to avoid them. I point this out because the news media have mistakenly and perniciously throw out this term about loners not realizing that loners are not lonely people. It's people who are interested in people and care what they do/think that need to be understood. The "loner" myth is a very active and very mistaken prototype. We loners are usually very well adjusted. We just don't gain our energy from people. I am a creative type and I work much better alone. I am alone, but not lonely much of the time. I have a very active inner life. Just one more canard from an irresponsible and lazy media that I had to point out. You'd think that people who use words all day would know nuanced meanings of words. But I do understand that there is a bias against people who are not extraverted. It's seen as a character flaw because I guess it's not well understood. Most people tend to be much more social, so I can see why this myth persists. But it's annoying.

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                • Author by juliajayne (December 08, 2007 10:09 pm ET)
                     

                  Not attacking you, HBL, just the term. If I were the news media, they'd probably accuse me of shooting the sheriff (Taylor).  ;-)  

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                • Author by conleytgwinn (December 08, 2007 11:17 pm ET)
                     

                  Please - you wrote my song!  Now you owe us another verse, or at least a limerick.

                  For more than sixty years I have refused to respond to those who preach "people" as the greatest source of self - just ain't so. I really do like the world created inside my head better than any I have seen portrayed in the most utopian movies. Mostly, reality sucks, even though I am fairly successful in managing (manipulating, according to my critics) my interface with that unruly reality. Inside my head, I can enforce the rule that reason matters. I can use that inner world to work with computers (I was always able to see what the computer would "think" of a line of code, and could "trick" the machine into doing things that amazed other programmers, even those who created the languages in which we wrote.) I can even replace the essentials of social intercourse with posting here and a few other forums, to maintain some facility with the language of nearby humankind.  

                  Too bad that as I age, I become less able, both physically and intellectually, for that likely will deprive me eventually of the endless delights available in deep thought, replacing that contemplative manner with rudimentary disguise of my failing, and the struggle to survive.

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                  • Author by HuntingtonBeachLefty (December 09, 2007 2:27 am ET)
                       

                    JJ and Conley, I only referred to disturbed loners.The ones who are either disturbed by being alone, or alone because they're too disturbed to be around others. I was not referring to those of us who love that solo time.

                    Interesting that you both bring it up, though.I think every personn has an individual balance regarding what is healthy as far as alone time vs. social time with other humans. There's probably a range in the middle that covers a good ratio for most people.

                    What's interesting to me is that those people who can never be alone (you know the type,married at 19, go out looking for a "significant other" within 24 hours of a breakup, invite a friend if they're going to the post office) are generally considered happy and well-adjusted.

                    I've had complete strangers come up to me as I was settling in to watch a movie by myself, and tell me how sad it was that I was at the theater alone.And I was perfectly happy until they started bugging me, and right after they left.

                    So, no slam on the loners.Most of my favorite people in the world are in the same "weird" group. ;0)

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                • Author by Clevenative (December 09, 2007 7:56 am ET)
                     

                  You make a lot of good points HuntingtonBeachLefty.

                  I suffer from an "invisible" medical condition that has affected the ability for my mind to multitask - so the classic "couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time" line basically fits me. (LOL) Naturally, this has affected my social skills also. Before I was hit with this disease, I was Mr. Personallity. I would be at a party and hear lines like "you should be on Johnny Carson" (showing my age), etc.

                  The loss of "the old me" was probablly the hardest aspect of the disease to accept. What has made it all the more difficult is the lack of understanding from family and friends who still expect "the old me". So, having lived on both sides of the fence, I can speak with certainty when I agree with what you say about society looking down on the more introverted.

                  The silver lining is that I am now much more aware and accepting of the vast range of personallity traits that make up the human condition. Another great example is sexuallity - specifically libido. I'm not condoning perverts, just saying that I understand how there are those who never let go of what others might see as sophmoric sexual actions and ideas vs. those who I always thought to be prudes throughout their life. How do I know if the (percieved lack of) sex drive I have now is not on equal par with the guy I thought was a prude at age 21? We all only have our own personal experiences as a benchmark for judging others.

                  I can't tell you how many times I've been approached by a stranger in a restuarant suggesting how "sad" it is that I "have to dine alone" - Nor could I tell how many times I've thought to myself during a social interaction with someone, "The worst thing anyone could possibly do to this guy is lock him in a room for 8 hours with no one to talk to."

                  Your line "We just don't gain our energy from people" had me saying, "No, we drain our enery from people". To each his own.

                  Just my $.02

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                  • Author by mefirst (December 09, 2007 10:22 am ET)
                       

                    i have never had anyone say something like that to me in a movie theater or restaurant.  maybe it's because i give the attitude that i would tell you in a second to take a hike.   i used to work with a woman and i mentioned that i had gone to a movie and it came up that i went by myself.  she said she never did that, but a couple weeks later she told me she had gone by herself but then left before the movie started.   i can't imagine the movies i would have missed if i had not gone alone.   and that's something conley mentioned that i have always thought.  when you "have to have somebody", you are setting yourself up for a lot of trouble.  you have to like yourself first.

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                    • Author by mefirst (December 09, 2007 10:32 am ET)
                         

                      that was hbl, not conley.

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                      • Author by conleytgwinn (December 09, 2007 8:19 pm ET)
                           

                        But - hey! It was such a good line that I insist the original credit be restored!

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                    • Author by juliajayne (December 09, 2007 5:01 pm ET)
                         

                      I have always preferred my company to most others. I see the people who always need to be around others as a sort of vampire - sucking energy and creativity. But that mode is most socially acceptable. I like lone wolfin' it much better. Thank goodness I found a great husband who understands my need for alone time. But a loner is not just limited to introverts. Many introverts have a lot of friends. A lone wolf is something very different. You know who you are, signed

                      JJ, the lone wolf

                      P.s. The book "Party of One" is a good read. You are in good company.

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                      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (December 09, 2007 6:43 pm ET)
                           

                        The book "Party of One" is a good read.

                        It also describes "Connecticut for Lieberman..."

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      • Author by Eddy3957 (December 07, 2007 7:18 pm ET)
           

        “…they insist that they know what we want and we don't…”---Avedon

         

        We'd like them to ask provocative questions.  And follow up with more questions till they have a story or the beginning of a story.  They seem intimidated, probably more by their own bosses than by shyness at asking a tough question of a public official. 

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        • Author by steeve (December 08, 2007 10:28 am ET)
             

          You have nothing to worry about.

          The shyness and intimidation will magically disappear as soon as a democrat becomes president.

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    • Author by mefirst (December 07, 2007 6:43 pm ET)
         

      no bigger example of media bias than the joe klein/time magazine story.  klein completely misrepresented the democratic position in a column on wiretapping foreign terrorist suspects, claiming that a congressional bill gave them protection due only americans, and then both klein and time  refused to allow democratic leaders to respond. 

       

      http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/12/04/time/index.html

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    • Author by Eddy3957 (December 07, 2007 7:27 pm ET)
         

      The editors and ultimately the owners of the paper are the real goats.

      Like a good football coach who finds his team losing due to interceptions, they should have enough confidence in their judgment to pull the starting quarterback whose breaking the passing yards record and put in the backup that think will do the job right and win the games.

      The likely problem with that analogy is that the media owners want them to write what they are writing.  But we don’t see much of the behind the scenes guys, and seeing is believing, so the writers get the blame.

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      • Author by conleytgwinn (December 08, 2007 4:36 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, the "head coach" and the "owner" want that record a lot more than the championship, for they will make far more money by allowing the Repugnants to grant them tax cuts and "stadium deals".

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    • Author by notanotherconservative2254 (December 08, 2007 1:09 pm ET)
         

      As an honest liberal I am going to start out by simply admitting what everyone already knows -  the MSM is liberal.

      Now what is the real problem with the media?  I would say that the problem is not bias or reporting the "facts".  Jamison Foser's analysis completely misses the  mark.   The problem with the media is this:Example 1:

      'Countdown with Keith Olbermann' for Dec. 6Read the transcript to the Thursday show

       

      My comments, Mr. Bush, are often dismissed as simple repetitions of the phrase, “George Bush has no business being president.”  Well, guess what?  Tonight, hanged by your own words and convicted by your own deliberate lies, you, Sir, have no business being president.

      Good night and good luck!

       

      Example 2:

      Hillary Clinton Battles Barack Obama's Surge

      Thursday, January 18, 2007

      COULTER: And, yes, I mean, I'm getting a little tired of even having to discuss what the Democrats are chitchatting about. They want us to lose in Iraq. That will help them. They're in the position of the Mujahedeen. They will acquire more power if America is defeated in Iraq.

      And so, whether it's more troops, less troops, redeploy the troops, and every time they come up with a new battle plan, we have to pretend like it's a serious proposal. They want us to lose.

       Conclusion:

      The real problem is with the lack of civility, courtesy, and honesty on both sides.  I can find many more examples of outrageous comments from Hannity, Olbermann, Coulter, Conason, etc.

      The solution is for reporters to give equal treatment to both sides.  And that means not taking sides or trying to push some agenda.  

       

       

       

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      • Author by solon (December 10, 2007 11:03 am ET)
           

        Being an ACTUAL honest liberal I am going to say what most liberals know. That conservatives LIE and LOVE to lie about the mainstream media being liberal. There is no QUESTION that Bush is a liar who lied about Iraq to take us to war. There is no rationale argument that this is not so. It is a fair statement to say he has no business being president. Coulter is a lying bomb throwing bimbo who brings embarassment to our entire species. To compare Olbermann with her is ludicrous he has not been one tenth as offensive. The fact that the media gives the skank any airtime at ALL is enough to disprove any liberal bias. She brings NOTHING except insults hatefulness and exhortations to violence to the table. If she were NEVER again seen or heard from in the media, the world would immediatly be a better place.

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    • Author by sarasotamom82152652 (December 08, 2007 7:46 pm ET)
         

      You did not understand Halperin's Op-ed in the Times.  His point was that he now thinks that the rigors of the presidential campaign did not necessarily produce the best person to be President--that the best candidate, someone good at winning the Presidency, is not necessarily the best person to be President.   Therefore, voters, as his book the "Undecided Voter's Guide" points out" would be wise to learn about the candidates and decide who they think would make the best President, not the best candidate.

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    • Author by Clevenative (December 09, 2007 8:54 am ET)
         

      Why would you expect the political media to be any different than the rest of the industry?

      America lives on "reality" TV shows that purvey the dog-eat-dog aspects of society as the accepted, if not expected, norm. Viewers watch in glee and bask in the misfortunes of others. I guess it makes them feel better about themselves?

      What makes anyone think that superficial attributes aren't a major part of voting choices for a large segment of Americans? Do you think it is strictly coincidence that since the TV era began,  the winning presidential candidate was also the more physically attractive? (At least I can't think of a case where this was not so.)  I can never get over how the likes of some pundits (Tucker Carlson or Chris Matthews come to mind) are always harping on people who might vote for a candidate “simply because she is a woman” or “simply because he’s black” – then in the next breath, compliment or trash them on their looks. The reality is –as sad as it seems - this is just the way it is.

      I remember first being taught of, and shown examples of, subliminal ads in high school civics class back in 1968. It has become an American art form. The political machine is no different than any other aspect of our capitalistic materialistic society. The "advertisers" know what they are doing and what "buttons to push". The sad part is that most voters don't see through the smokescreen. This is why Hillary's screechy voice or John Edwards hair (vs. their health care plans) is much more likely to be the topic of conversation the following morning at workplaces across America.

      Let’s face it – political junkies  (like most of us here),  those who “keep up” with the real issues, are NOT mainstream America.

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      • Author by juliajayne (December 09, 2007 5:20 pm ET)
           

        David Keirsey, who has written about personality types maintains that if given the choice between any personality type against the "artisan" personality type, the artisan personality type will always win. JFK and Clinton were both artisan types, as is GWB. Jimmy Carter is considered a guardian personality type, but he wasn't running against a artisan personality type. I think GHWB is a guardian also.

        I think Hillary is considered a Rational personality type, so if she is running against an artisan, she may be doomed. I wish I knew what Obama's type is.

        Anybody else follow personality typing? I wish people would focus on other qualifications than personality typing, but usually the wiley artisan will win. These are the people, as Mark Twain said "there's a sucker born every minute", who will exploit those suckers. I wish the American people weren't such suckers.

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