"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser
Chris Matthews' speech isn't enough
When politicians are having difficulty getting themselves out of a controversial situation, pundits like Chris Matthews are quick to offer a diagnosis: The politician, they tell us, should immediately come clean, take responsibility and, if necessary, apologize. Get it over quickly; don't let it drag out -- and don't make it worse with evasive answers or half-hearted explanations.
Chris Matthews and MSNBC should have followed that advice.
Amid growing outrage over Matthews' comments about Hillary Clinton and other women, the Hardball host spent the first five minutes of his show last night delivering his version of Richard Nixon's Checkers speech.
Acknowledging that he had been "callous," "nasty," and "dismissive" toward Hillary Clinton, Matthews insisted "I get it."
Matthews' acknowledgement is a welcome first step -- and a victory for those who have spoken out against his misogynistic comments, from Media Matters and other media critics to national leaders such as Gloria Steinem and Kim Gandy to scores of writers and bloggers to countless concerned Americans who contacted MSNBC to express their concern. The idea of Chris Matthews publicly admitting he has made inappropriate comments about Hillary Clinton -- a politician who he openly hates -- would have been nearly unthinkable just a few weeks ago. But it happened, demonstrating that the sorry state of our nation's media isn't inevitable: Concerned citizens who take responsibility for speaking out against behavior like Matthews' can bring about change.
But Matthews' speech last night isn't enough. As Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women, said of Matthews' comments: "Chris Matthews is a repeat offender when it comes to sexist attitudes toward women politicians. ... I wasn't really looking for an apology. I was looking for a behavior change, and for him to treat female politicians the same way as male politicians."
Maybe last night's Matthews speech will mark the beginning of such a behavior change. But based on their response to the controversy so far, it seems that neither Matthews nor his MSNBC colleagues really "get it" at all.
Matthews' five-minute speech focused exclusively on one comment he made about Hillary Clinton -- and suggested he made that comment only one time. Early in Matthews' speech, he noted that his comments are "almost always without a script." Later, he pointed to the "heated, fast-paced talk we have here on Hardball." But Matthews' assertion that the only reason Clinton is a leading presidential contender is that Bill Clinton had an affair wasn't a one-time mistake resulting from a fast-paced, scriptless television show. Matthews has said largely the same thing at least 10 times dating back to 1999.
And Matthews has made countless other comments about Hillary Clinton that he completely ignored last night. He has called her a "She devil" and "witchy" and said that men who support her are "castratos in the eunuch chorus" and compared her to a "strip-teaser" and questioned whether she is a "convincing mom" and said she speaks in a "scolding manner" and described her laugh as a "cackle" and suggested that "being surrounded by women" might "make a case against" Clinton being "commander in chief" and called her an "uppity" woman and described her as "anti-male" and obsessed about her "ambition" while ignoring that of the (all male) Republicans running for president.
Matthews didn't address any of those comments in his speech last night; he didn't even acknowledge that they existed, or that the criticism he has faced recently has anything to do with any comments other than what he said about Clinton being a presidential contender because her husband cheated on her.
Nor did he address or even acknowledge his lengthy history of highly questionable comments about other women, like his suggestion that Nancy Pelosi would "castrate" Steny Hoyer and that she would have difficulty disagreeing with President Bush without "screaming" and "without becoming grating." Or his suggestion that the Des Moines Register endorsed Hillary Clinton because the paper's "female editors and publisher" succumbed to "lobbying" by Bill Clinton.
And Matthews completely ignored his pattern of objectifying women, particularly women who are guests on his show. He has told Elizabeth Edwards, "You've got a great face, Elizabeth. I love your smile," adding "I don't want to patronize you." He once began an interview with Laura Ingraham by telling her, "I'm not allowed to say this, but I'll say it -- you're beautiful and you're smart," and ended it by adding, "I get in trouble for this, but you're great looking, obviously. You're one of the gods' gifts to men in this country. But also, you are a hell of a writer." He has asked guests if they find Ann Coulter "physically attractive" and declared that she "doesn't pass the Chris Matthews test." Coulter and Ingraham may have odious ideas, but they deserve to be judged on those ideas, not on whether they're "beautiful" or how they fare on "the Chris Matthews test" of physical attractiveness.
Matthews famously urged CNBC reporter Erin Burnett to "come in -- come in further -- come in closer. Really close" and told her she is a "knockout" and "beautiful." He engaged in an extended commentary about "beautiful" CNBC reporter Margaret Brennan," noting "she's 6 feet tall" and telling her, "You're gorgeous." He has described the stars of online videos as "gorgeous creatures of god" and told one of them, "You're giving me the peepers. I can tell. ...You are doing it. You are flashing your incredible eyebrows at me. Look at that. It's awful what you're doing." And he told another: "[B]e careful with the advances you are making with your eyes right now. I'm not a casting agent." He has commented on Michelle Obama's appearance so extensively, NBC colleague Andrea Mitchell was moved to remind him that he was talking about a Harvard-educated attorney.
EMILY's List president Ellen Malcolm has described Matthews' comments as "sexual harassment brought to you by MSNBC."
But during his five-minute speech last night, Matthews pretended none of this exists.
And so it seems that he doesn't really "get it."
Worse, MSNBC doesn't seem to get it, either. The cable channel's executives have remained silent on the matter, lending their tacit approval to Matthews' behavior.
And some of Matthews' MSNBC colleagues have leapt to his defense.
On Morning Joe this morning, host Joe Scarborough said it is "offensive" and "outrageous" that Matthews "has to apologize." Like Matthews, Scarborough focused only on Matthews' comment about Hillary Clinton's success resulting from Bill Clinton's affair.
At the end of his rant, Scarborough insisted, "This ain't about Hillary Clinton's campaign."
Scarborough got that part right. This isn't about Hillary Clinton's campaign. This is about a consistent pattern of misogynistic comments by Chris Matthews. Comments about and directed toward a variety of women. A consistent pattern of Matthews objectifying women. And a consistent pattern of MSNBC looking the other way.
It's about an MSNBC host saying things like this: "I've been trying to call Alessandra Stanley with The New York Times for some time just to have lunch with her, and she thinks it's because I'm trying to influence her -- that's not the case at all, it's because, I was surprised, I saw a picture of her and I thought she was kinda hot!"
That one wasn't Chris Matthews, though. That one was ... Joe Scarborough.
It's about things like a male MSNBC host describing a woman running for president as "shrill" (and "very shrill") and asking, "[W]hat about her housekeeping skills?" Those were Joe Scarborough, too.
MSNBC's David Shuster also chimed in with a defense of Matthews: "[T]o see him have to go through this is absolutely infuriating, to see the way these groups used him for pure political gain is absolutely infuriating."
But this isn't about political gain. This isn't about one comment about Hillary Clinton, or even 30 comments about Hillary Clinton: This is about Chris Matthews' pattern of inappropriate treatment of women, and about MSNBC's continued acceptance of it. It's about things like a male journalist doing a mocking "impersonation" of the women who host The View - an impersonation that featured a high-pitched, whiny voice.
That one wasn't Chris Matthews, either. That one was ... David Shuster.
And then there's MSNBC host Tucker Carlson, who has described Hillary Clinton as "whining" and suggested the reason there are so few women in Congress is that "most women are so sensible, they don't want to get involved in something as stupid as politics" and said of Clinton, "[W]hen she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs," and described her as "castrating, overbearing, and scary." (MSNBC can't say they didn't know what they were getting when they hired Carlson; before joining the cable channel, he said women "want to be spanked vigorously every once in a while" and told Elle magazine that Clinton is his "guilty fantasy," explaining: "Every time I see her I think I could, you know, help. ... She seems tense.")
MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski weighed in on Matthews' behalf, too. Brzezinski defended Matthews by referring to comments Matthews made in response to criticism of his misogynistic remarks -- not to his January 9 comments that "the reason" for Hillary Clinton's political success is that "her husband messed around -- and by complaining that "the websites isolated one portion of what he said."
But the only people who have "isolated" Matthews' comments are Matthews himself -- and his MSNBC colleagues like Mika Brzezinski. They have pretended that the entire controversy is about one statement Matthews made about one person, one time. That isn't it at all. It's about many comments about many women, many times.
If Mika Brzezinski thinks Chris Matthews is being taken out of context, she's free to explain what context makes it acceptable to refer to Hillary Clinton as "witchy" and to describe Clinton and Nancy Pelosi "castrating" males and to depict Clinton as a "strip-teaser" and to describe the women on the Des Moines Register editorial board succumbing to "lobbying" by Bill Clinton. Then she can explain what context makes it OK for Matthews to leer at female guests over and over and over again.
As Joe Scarborough said: "This ain't about Hillary Clinton's campaign."
This is about what Ellen Malcolm described as "sexual harassment brought to you by MSNBC."
It's about whether MSNBC -- the cable channel that hired Ann Coulter, that gave Michael Savage a television show (then had to take it away when he told a caller to "get AIDS and die"), that hired Don Imus to spew insults until one day he went too far in talking about the Rutgers women's basketball team -- has learned from its previous mistakes, or whether it will continue to tolerate sexist comments from its hosts and reporters.
Last night, Matthews told us that he "get[s] it." Now he -- and his on-air colleagues, and MSNBC executives -- have to show us that they really do. And a speech won't do it; they have to change their behavior.
A week ago, MSNBC had a Chris Matthews problem. If things don't change, the cable channel may have a much bigger problem.
















P.S. and what's the deal with Olbermann's continued obsession with Britney Spears? Talk about a problem with bashing women-- like, who the hell cares about her that much?
Looks like a little counseling could go a long ways at Rockefeller Center. They're all goofy guys over there.
You are bringing up KO's few 'reports' on Britney and lining them up to everything this thread is about?
Have you even watched those KO reports? They may be unnescesary in the long run but at no time does KO ever speak in the same way that Matthews or Joe and lets not forget those over at FOX do about her (or the many women, averages Janes to their peers) looks nor does he leer nor does he ask those women he has on his show to 'come' closer to the camera........
Give me a break..... KO may be wasting his time on Spears (thought: Perhaps KO is reporting on Spears this much because he feels it nescesary to report on her problems? or that her kids are screwed (Spears or K-Fed? yikes!).......
These KO reports aren't even in the same universe to the blatant womanizing of those written about in this thread!
Slight update......
After rereading my own post, I realized that I made it sound as if I believe that KO has never said negative words about women.....
I only meant that the incesent ramblings of Matthews and others that KO's don't compare. Yes, KO has on occasion said stupid little remarks and I would hope that with all this being in the forefront now that he will realize it and stop!
Forgive me, my error?
Every night, Olbermann dwells on Spears. EVERY NIGHT!
I thought I was the only person who noticed it, but a year ago a great piece on Tom Paine highlighted the problem. KO has a problem with sexually active, hot little be-otches, obviously. He also bashes and critiques Hillary for at least 10 or 15 minutes every night-- she can't do anything right. Everything she does is culpable to him.
When's the last time KO said anything nice about a woman? Anything at all?
The problem will I hope be from the grass roots.
I got to say, I'm pissed at MSNBC for essentially telling one Democratic candidate, go away small person, your not big enough to play in this pond.
I got a list of Savage's sponsers, I'm feeling a need for some phone time with people I've never met. For the rest of this cast of creeps. I find it hard to countinence such lousy job performance for such large salary's.
Well met Mr. Foser.
P.S.S.
I've noticed it's not just me that thinks Olbermann too has a problem with women. Look what Tom Paine said about a year ago:
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/02/23/everyone_loves_keith_olbermannexcept_me.php
I don't see Obermann, no cable.
The article dosn't sell me. I think its more a social comentary on our societal obscessions with good looking white blonds from Obermann. The article's writter may have some of the obsession herself with Britney. Needlessly crude, ok. Are the ladies good role models? Perhaps not, better things to talk about, or better ways to do it, yes. Do I think its anyway near the behavior of a Mathews or similar, no, but I am sensitised to the issue.
If Keith wasn't required to do the celebrity segments per his superiors, I think he'd let the lot of them (including Spears) alone. I think he should do what he did tonight, a very entertaining piece from blimpnet.com. I'd rather see clever, well done editorial content like that then the celeb crap.
Chicken 'n Waffles' issues with women go waaaayy beyond making a few snarky comments about Brittney Spears.
The freak has a long and documented history of stalking women including his 7th grade English teacher whom he had a crush on 25 years ago, female professional athletes, and scuzzy porn stars.
You seem to have an unnatural obsession with the personal lives of people you don't know, and your "facts" are usually distorted or outright lies, and always negative.
It's very bad karma to bear false witness; and if you have some snippet that is true, it's just stupid to spend so much time dissecting another's life for the purpose of attacking them.
Mary...be sure to follow all the links.
Chicken 'n Waffles is a freaking freak....quite possibly danegerous. I had heard the story previosuly how he really had Rebecca Lobo scared to death.
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2007/03/did_keith_olber.php
Hey wait a minute. Hiring a P.I. to track down a woman you knew years ago is very much CREEPY!
I'm not validating the criticisms, but it's not something NORMAL that men do-- or should do. Like, if she wanted to see him, he's so FAMOUS, why didn't she look HIM up instead?
The woman was his 7th grade English teacher. It's totally freaking creepy. He probably has some sort of shrine to her in a secrect room in the attic or something.
I had heard about his stalking of Rebecca Lobo a few years ago. The guy is a slasher movie waiting to happen.
This faux outrage regarding Matthews's comments and the dismissive attitude of Olbermann's abusive behavior towards women is part of a very disturbing pattern on the left.
I'll bet JuliaJayne and Mary59 wre never too concerned with Hill's husband Billy Jeff Bubba's history of serial sexual assault and rape.
the sounds of silence from the stranger.
would that be the same kathleen willey who claimed that someone broke into her home and stole the manuscript of the book she was writing. naturally, like every author, she had no copy? the woman wouldn't know the truth if it bit her. she harassed an ex client of her husband, who had embezzled money from the client, by making phone calls accusing the client of causing her husband's death. crazy person.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,988050-2,00.html
Shorter Stranger: This garbage is already long and documented, but I've gotta do something to change the subject.
Media members never suffer consequences of being wrong. They only suffer consequences of being insensitive.
MMFA is probably following a proven strategy -- that raised awareness of insensitive comments gets results -- but once again (as with their "misinformation of the year") the actual misinformation is suppressed.
I would love to see Matthews go, but it should be over his incompetence, dishonesty, and ignorance, not for his sexism. Just like Imus should have been fired for being a small-minded bore rather than those three words.
Yeah, it looks like Scarborough might be guilty of sexism too, with some of the comments he made about Clinton and her "shrillness" and her lack of house keeping skills and drooling over Alessandra Stanley (wonder what Mrs. Scarborough thought of that!) I'm surprised MMFA didn't take Scarborough to task for when he argued with Shuster over waterboarding. (According to Joe, waterboarding isn't torture!!) Joe's not as bad as some of the other ones, like Boortz or Beck or Savage, but he should be more respectful of women.
This article also made a good point about MSNBC hiring the hateful Coulter, Savage, and Imus, who inflame our media with bigotry against women, gays, and people of color. MSNBC needs to stop bringing Coulter on everytime she wants to promote one of her crappy books.
comments he made about Clinton and her "shrillness"
She is shrill...and the adjective can apply to either sex.
Seriously...you people are making fools of yourselves.
Seriously...you people are making fools of yourselves.
Coming from the serially-delusional Stranger, I suppose we should take this as high praise.
Really now, Stranger, stop the deflections about Olbermann and deal with the actual topic of this thread. There are some reasonable conservatives on this board, and they are much too bright to be positively influenced by your blather.
"A week ago, MSNBC had a Chris Mathews problem. If things don't change, the cable channel may have a much bigger problem."---JF
I may have missed something, but I don't know what potential bigger problem he might mean. Possibly a loss of ratings from negative publicity, or a law changes from a possible Dem administration, or some finacial rearrangement, etc.
Indeed, "Chris Matthews' speech isn't enough"! Excellent commentary, Jamison! Matthews "foul-ball" reeks! There was no humility in his mea-culpa; he owns his pompous pulpit with friends in high places, and until he is taken off the air, he will continue, perhaps with subtle remarks in the beginning, but he'll flail again against women and the truth. I have no faith he will change. He's a repeat offender sanctioned and protected beyond reason by network executives without reason. Watching NBC/MSNBC news and commentary from its political pundits (Matthews, Scarborough, Carlson, et al) is the equivalent of reading the KGB's propaganda rag "Pravda". MSNBC's troika of manipulation and distortion will influence unjustly until viewers speak up and hold them accountable. We can not allow them to go unchallenged. Matthews, Scarborough, and Carlson (don't forget Don Imus who repeatedly called Hillary Clinton "Satan"!) will never "get it". They have no credibility. They deserve no respect.
1. Obama STARTED the negative campaigning when he called Hillary "disingenuous"; meaning 'dishonest' .... THAT Was a Personal Attack; out of bounds; IN Fact, the DISINGENUOUS means Obama Chose to ENGAGE in NAME-CALLING/Negative Campaigning.
2. The MSM DID NOT ---CALL--- Obama on that FOUL, Nor Point out that he had been campaigning for some time on his 'promise' NOT TO Engage in Negative Campaigning.
INSTEAD - When Hillary responded to Obama's negative campaigning with "Oh, so now the FUN Begins" - the MSM DID NOT call it for what it OBVIOUSLY was: A rueful, mildly sarcastic remark making light of OBAMA's Switch to ATTACK MODE; instead, the MSM 'endlessly' quoted her words --- taking UMBRAGE & Acting OUTRAGED --- "Oh, SO Hillary THINKS Negative Campaigning is FUN!!!
2. The MSM Continues to BLAME Hillary for the fact that racism entered into it.
At the Nevada debate Tim Russert did state that Obama's CAMPAIGN Staff DID make those allegations of racism against Hillary & Bill - (as shown by this 4-page campaign MEMO, Russert said) - as he was rattling it in his hand.
Obama mumbled a few noncommittal words .... glossing over & obfuscating that FACT.
The MSM has NEVER MENTIONED IT AGAIN -SO- MOST Voters are UNAWARE of the FACT that Obama's campaign was promoting accusations of racism as a means of Negative Campaigning - against Hillary.
Never busted on that really, really, DIVISIVE & Ugly Negative Campaigning --- either.
3. Today, that Nevada union running an ad in Spanish telling Latinos that Hillary doesn't respect them; that Hillary is shameless - is NAME-CALLING --- AGAIN. Totally out of bounds, but the MSM is NOT calling on Obama to disavow it - nor does it appear that they will make any ATTEMPT to investigate or look into the possibility that OBAMA's campaign is behind it.
Hillary's CAMPAIGN Needs to WRITE UP a -----NARRATIVE---- of those events/FACTS & send it out as a PRESS RELEASE.
GET THE STORY --- OUT THE DOOR --- to the VOTERS.
It has already been acknowledged that his reporting caused a backlash and helped voters in NH to rally behind Clinton. So will he stop because of a backlash or because he sincerely believes that the "messed around" comment is his only sin.
He may be sitting on a powderkeg, one "Imus-style" remark away from extinction (on MSNBC, someone would hire him again like Imus).
I find Chris Matthews in many respects one of the better political commentators on MSNBC. Where is it written that he can't hold a personal bias. That's called Hardball for a reason. His take on Hillary Clinton is hardly unique or 'off the wall.' Yes, he can even intensely dislike her. It is his opinion and we remain free to reach our own.
It's reasonable to wonder about Mrs. Clinton's motives and progress and Matthews chimes in as it registers on him. She has been on the scene a long time and responded to events in unique ways. Chris has a forum for his views just as we do here in the Comments. We have not earned his status as we've not worked in congress as he did or been around the politicians as long or closely. We watch MSNBC to obtain information that will allow us to make up our own minds. He speaks for himself as Keith does on his show, which is far more opinionated and hard hitting. I appreciate these shows far more than the pap we get on the nightly news from the major networks and pay for the opportunity to hear diverse views. We are not all sheep and can make up our own minds as to the validity of opinions presented on opinion shows. Even opinions different than our own. We have freedom to differ and change the channel.
I'm newly registered here and I just wanted to say that I feel like I am straddling parallel universes when I watch David Shuster on KO comport himself as a 'serious', 'respectable' (and seemingly left leaning journalist) - and then watch him on your vid as "one of the boys" mocking Joy Behar.
I'm left with a sense of unreality. I don't know anymore which David Shuster I should believe - and I used to like him a lot. Now, I think I've been had and that he's a phony; and the next time I see him on KO, I'll either be discounting anything he has to say or else I'll be using his time-slot to go do something else in the kitchen. I'll also be wondering a lot why KO has him on his show - and also wondering if I can trust KO anymore.
I wonder now if they're all phonies - even KO. Is his show merely a left of center act?
I've wondered in the past why it would be that whenever KO would be on vacation, people like Pat Buchanan would show up there to offer their opinions. I thought of it as a 'temporary insanity' that was rectified on KO's return. Now, I'm not so sure.
KO's show is THE ONLY TV news show that I've trusted - other than Bill Moyer's on PBS.
I'll have to confess my naivety and say that I am shocked and very disappointed - and permanently alienated from - Mr. Shuster. There is no possible way for him to ever make this up to me or earn my trust again.
If Chris Matthews really "got it" he would not have thanked Scarborough for defending, he would have told him something like "I appreciate your support, but I really did deserve this criticism". I am so disappointed with Scarborough, Shuster and particularly Mika Brzezinski who is obviously working hard to be a member in good standing of this misogynist boys' club. It's bizarre for a woman to have no problems with Matthews' blatant sexism.
What is even more bizarre is that NBC/GE has no problem with its pundits insulting more than half the population of this country. In addition to being indefensible, it is incredibly stupid from a business point of view. (So much for the rational behavior of the market that conservatives keep touting.) I think it is past time to complain to the sponsors.
Chris Matthews has proved himself to be a world-class jerk lately, and I am glad he is being called on his sexist remarks. But, he is not the only one, including columnists Judith Warner and Maureen Dowd, who need to be censured for their often veiled and coy sexist remarks. Yes, I believe that sexism is rearing its ugly head in this Presidential race. I have been an admirer and staunch supporter of Hillary Clinton since she first appeared on the national scene, partly because of her stands on the issues and partly because she is a strong female role model. Most thrilling, however, is her emergence as a national and global leader who, I believe, will change this country and the world for the better. If we allow her and other women to be sabotaged because of their gender through the pernicious sexism practiced by so-called journalists, we will be allowing every woman to be sabotaged. It is time to put an end to that chapter of female human history.
What is hapening with MSNBC. I guess their recent success on the shoulder of those democrates that used to watch them as an alternative to FOX, has gone to their heads. I've stopped watching those jerks, once they started bad mouthing the clintons. Unfortunatly, I had to go back to watch O'riely.