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"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser

July 03, 2008 7:14 pm ET

John McCain's "protective barrier"

Nearly four months ago, I wrote that many journalists were going along with John McCain's apparent efforts to declare that, because of his military service, any criticism -- even if it doesn't have anything to do with his service -- is out of bounds. In one early example, McCain attacked Mitt Romney, claiming that Romney (who, McCain noted, "has never had any military experience") had criticized Bob Dole's "service and courage." In fact, Romney hadn't said anything about Dole's service, or his courage. Not even close. But that didn't stop the media from going along with McCain's false claims.

A few weeks later, MSNBC's Contessa Brewer asked if Barack Obama was "taking aim at John McCain's age, an American war hero." Obama hadn't said anything that had anything to do with McCain's status as an "American war hero" -- indeed, he hadn't mentioned McCain at all. Still, Brewer felt compelled to invoke McCain's status as a war hero at the slightest hint (real or imagined) that McCain is being criticized -- even though that (real or imagined) criticism had nothing to do with McCain's military service.

But incidents like that were apparently just trial runs for what has happened this week, as much of the media has abandoned any pretense of neutrality. In the most vivid example to date of media describing any criticism of McCain as criticism of his military service, MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell described a television ad that made not a single mention of McCain's service as being a part of "an organized campaign against John McCain's military service."

Here's the ad; watch for yourself. It's an ad about McCain's Iraq policies. It doesn't make any mention of McCain's military record. Doesn't even hint at anything having anything to do with McCain's service. Yet Mitchell suggested it was part of "an organized campaign against John McCain's military service." She may as well have said a giant purple unicorn had called McCain a traitor, for all the truth there was to her statement.

Mitchell's description was deeply dishonest, but what's really remarkable is how well it fit in among the rest of the media's political coverage this week.

On Sunday, Face the Nation host Bob Schieffer suggested that the fact that Barack Obama has not "ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down" makes him less qualified to be president than John McCain. His guest, retired Gen. Wesley Clark, responded by saying that having done so is not a qualification to be president:

SCHIEFFER: I have to say, Barack Obama has not had any of those experiences either, nor has he ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down. I mean --

CLARK: Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president.

SCHIEFFER: Really?

Clark has made similar comments in the past, and various media figures said much the same thing about John Kerry in 2004. Morton Kondracke, for example: "It does not qualify you to be the commander in chief of all the Armed Forces because you were a Swift boat commander." And Kathleen Parker: "[M]ilitary service neither qualifies nor disqualifies one for political office." That same year, Bush campaign spokesperson Steve Schmidt -- now John McCain's de facto campaign manager -- dismissed the relevance of Kerry's military service, noting that it had occurred decades earlier.

Nobody much cared when people said John Kerry's military service didn't qualify him to be president. But the media have different rules when it comes to John McCain. And so Clark's comments were met with a firestorm of media criticism. Never mind that Clark hadn't criticized McCain's service; that he hadn't said McCain served poorly or dishonorably -- in fact, Clark called McCain a "hero." Never mind all that; the media quickly, relentlessly -- and falsely -- jumped all over Clark.

They falsely accused him of attacking McCain's military service. They falsely accused him of attacking McCain's patriotism. They went along with the McCain campaign's complaints that Clark -- who, again, called McCain a "hero" -- "didn't pay proper homage" to McCain. By the end of the week, one creative journalist went so far as to falsely claim that Clark's comments were part of a "pattern of attacks" on McCain as "psychologically unfit for presidential office." In short: they freaked out.

A few journalists felt compelled to acknowledge the obvious: that what Clark said was actually right -- that McCain's military service, like John Kerry's, is not sufficient qualification for the presidency no matter how honorable and heroic it was. But they still insisted Clark shouldn't have said it.

New York Times columnist Gail Collins, for example, wrote: "When Schieffer pointed out that Obama had neither run a squadron nor 'ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down,' the correct response was: 'No, and he honors Senator McCain's service.' ... Nevertheless, what Clark said was obviously true." Collins' Times colleague John Harwood agreed during an appearance on MSNBC: "[I]t was a misstep by Clark ... It was not a well-advised thing for Clark to do ... It actually was true."

When did journalists decide that the "obviously true" answer to a question is not the "correct" answer? When did they decide that it was appropriate to spend days excoriating someone for saying something that is "true" but isn't "well-advised?" Columbia Journalism Review's Zachary Roth, writing about an ABCNews.com report, explained:

This is the perfect embodiment of the press's unbelievably destructive habit of assessing every piece of campaign rhetoric for its political acuity, rather than for its validity and accuracy. Clark's comments may (or may not) have been impolitic. But that has no bearing on their validity or lack thereof -- which is how the news media should be evaluating them.

Incredibly, many in the media compared Clark's "obviously true" comments to the vicious smear campaign waged by the so-called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth against John Kerry. The comparisons began almost immediately. Just hours after Clark's appearance on Face the Nation, CNN host Rick Sanchez asked, "[D]id Wesley Clark pull a swift boat on John McCain today?" He later described Clark's comments as "A respected military leader dissing, some might say, swift-boating John McCain's military record." The absurd comparison quickly gained traction, particularly on cable news.

But wait: it gets worse. Not only did the media compare Clark to the noxious Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, many of them politely averted their eyes when McCain turned to a member of that group -- which McCain once called "dishonest and dishonorable" -- to respond to Clark's non-attack. The Washington Post, one of the media outlets that did note Bud Day's membership in the SBVT, quoted him rejecting the comparison between Clark and the anti-Kerry group -- because, he claimed, the comparison was unfair to the Swifties: "The Swift boat, quote, attacks were simply a revelation of the truth. The similarity doesn't exist. ... One was about laying out the truth. This one is about attempting to cast another shadow."

The Post didn't bother to tell readers that, in fact, the Swift Boat attacks were deeply dishonest and nasty smears.

In short: John McCain turned to a member of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a group whose false and despicable attacks on John Kerry's war record McCain once denounced, to attack Wesley Clark for comments in which Clark did not criticize McCain's war record -- and in which he, in fact, called McCain a hero. And the media went along with it.

But -- because the only limit to how absurd the media's pro-McCain coverage will become is time -- it gets even worse.

While defending the Swift Boat Vets' lies about John Kerry and attacking Wes Clark for something he didn't say, Bud Day said of Clark: "General Clark spent a month in Vietnam, got badly wounded, evacuated, and that was his Vietnam experience. I'd say let's hold the two of them up and see who's most qualified to talk about their experience as a combat officer."

That happens to be false. Clark served at least six months in Vietnam, not "a month." Day's comments about Clark constituted an actual falsehood about a distinguished veteran's military record, made on an official McCain campaign conference call by a hand-picked surrogate. Surely, after days of freaking out over something Wes Clark didn't say, the media quickly gave as much attention to SBVT member Bud Day's false claims about Clark's own war record?

Of course not. Remember: the rules are different for John McCain.

Then there's Bob Dole. Earlier this year, McCain falsely accused Mitt Romney of criticizing Dole's service. This week, Bob Dole returned the favor by releasing a statement calling Wes Clark's non-attack on McCain's service "Beyond comprehension" and a "further erosion of our nation's political discourse."

CNN, MSNBC, Time and the Associated Press, among others, reported Bob Dole's comments about Clark. But nobody mentioned an inconvenient fact that completely undermines Dole's credibility on this topic: In 2004, in the midst of the Swift Boat controversy, Bob Dole went on national television to make false claims about John Kerry's war injuries, suggesting the Democratic presidential candidate didn't deserve his Purple Hearts.

Dole said in 2004 that he will "always quarrel about" Kerry's Purple Hearts, because "he got two in one day" even though he "never bled" and only had "superficial wounds." In fact, Kerry's Purple Hearts were not awarded for the same day, and he did bleed, according to Kerry crewmate Del Sandusky, who -- unlike Dole -- was present when Kerry was injured. There has never been any evidence that John Kerry did not earn his medals, and there is considerable evidence he did.

The false claims Bob Dole made to suggest John Kerry did not deserve his Purple Hearts are what it looks like when somebody actually smears a war hero. Yet the media who dutifully repeated Dole's criticism of Clark didn't bother to mention Dole's bogus and offensive comments about Kerry.

After all, Dole was defending John McCain from (imaginary) attacks, and the rules are different for John McCain.

Let's pause for a moment to review. According to the news media, if you call John McCain a "hero," but say that heroism doesn't qualify him to be president, you have dishonorably attacked his military service. (Feel free, however, to say the same thing about John Kerry.) And if you criticize McCain's Iraq policies, you are participating in "an organized campaign against John McCain's military service."

But wait! There's more!

The media's knee-jerk defense of McCain doesn't stop at their use of his military service to rule criticism of his Iraq policies out of bounds. It extends to (things having nothing to do with) his age, too. See, if you criticize John McCain for ignoring his own pledge to avoid negative campaigning, the media will quickly announce that you're really attacking his age. That was ridiculous, of course, but McCain aide Mark Salter told them to say it, so they did.

You get the picture: the media is on the verge of declaring any criticism of John McCain off-limits -- even when it isn't really criticism. Even when you call him a "hero," but not quite enthusiastically enough.

One of the hallmarks of the Karl Rove era of GOP politics is that the Republicans aren't particularly subtle about their tactics. They tend to clearly telegraph what they intend to do, though often with the slight wrinkle of accusing the opposition of doing what they plan to do themselves.

That is certainly true of the McCain campaign. In the very memo in which Salter convinced the media to pretend that Obama's criticism of McCain's negative campaigning was an attack on the Arizona senator's age, Salter wrote: "Senator Obama is hopeful that the media will continue to form a protective barrier around him, declaring serious limits to the questions, discussion and debate in this race."

Yes, that's John McCain's senior adviser complaining that the media has formed a "protective barrier" around Barack Obama.

The American people, however, seem to see through this nonsense. Two months ago, The New York Times and CBS News conducted a poll in which they asked respondents whether the media has been harder or easier on John McCain than on other candidates. Only 8 percent thought the media had been harder on McCain than on other candidates; more than three times as many people thought the media had taken it easier on McCain than on other candidates. (Asked the same question about media coverage of Barack Obama, respondents split pretty much down the middle.)

It probably could go without saying at this point, but in case you're wondering: No, neither the Times nor CBS reported those poll results.

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    • Author by jmh (July 03, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
         
      This all seems even more ironic considering there is _so much_ else on which to

      base concerns about a McCain presidency.

      One example: he has aligned himself with advisors who, with flagrant conflict of interest, put their own personal financial interests above that of the American people..whom they are obliged to serve.

      Another example: he has been unable to indicate how his administration would be any different than the current one. He cannot decide whether he aligns himself with the policies that have brought our country to the verge of collapse in terms of economics and foreign affairs or whether he opposes this decline and has some plan to repair the damage done in the last eight years.

      That is just two...
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      • Author by the Grey Path (July 04, 2008 9:38 pm ET)
           

        Anyone remember Wesley Clark's job in the 1990s?  Maybe .... Commander of NATO who stopped the war in Kosovo, leading to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic?

        Who's more qualified by his military service?  Clearly, Wesley Clark.

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    • Author by mary59 (July 03, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
         
      A man in his 70s who was a POW in Vietnam could be fully competent to be President.  Unfortunately, John McCain is not that man, my friends.
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      • Author by IRONY 101 (July 03, 2008 7:54 pm ET)
           

        Mary, John McCain is a MAVERICK. He could beat up a Sandinista rebel with one arm tied behind his back.

         

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        • Author by juliajayne (July 03, 2008 8:16 pm ET)
             
          I could beat up beat up the old geezer with one boney girl arm tied behind my back.
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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (July 04, 2008 12:08 pm ET)
             

          He could beat up a Sandinista rebel with one arm tied behind his back.

          I agree. Of course, the only way McCain could beat that Sandinista rebel is if that rebel only had one arm and it was tied behind his back.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (July 03, 2008 8:16 pm ET)
         

      As Mr. Foser indicates, the public dosn't seem to be buying the story.  MSMFM, Main Stream Media For McCain, is a label I'd like to see get some exercise.

      I'd also like to see these folks identified as a cancer upon the body politic. If their just getting warmed up this maybe considered true for an amazing number of citizens come November.

      I just don't see them stepping away from this or other efforts of democratic demonization. The grooves have been developed over 20 years. They will not be abandoned easily and certainly not in the next five monthes.

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      • Author by see it real (July 04, 2008 3:04 pm ET)
           
        McCain's Corporate Conservative News Media is giving Liar McCain a free pass and/or protection on each and every lie he tells and each and every flip-flop he engages in, and they also attack any person or group who makes legitimate criticisms of Liar McCain and/or calls Liar McCain on his many flip-flops and lies.
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 05, 2008 12:07 am ET)
           

        Exactly right Eweston...

        They won't be abandoned.  Barack Obama doesn't appear to be the man who can take on the corporate media.  This would be too uppity.

        He's going to have to rely on his "helpers"--Media Matters, etc.--but it's not clear if our infrastructure (though improved) is adequate for the task? 

         

         

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    • Author by Quality1 (July 03, 2008 9:42 pm ET)
         
      Absolutely brilliant !!  Recommend every progressive blogger include this in their blogs to once and for all refute the lies and distortions spewed forth by our MSM.
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    • Author by BottleBlonde (July 03, 2008 9:47 pm ET)
         

      One of the hallmarks of the Karl Rove era of GOP politics is that the Republicans aren't particularly subtle about their tactics. They tend to clearly telegraph what they intend to do, though often with the slight wrinkle of accusing the opposition of doing what they plan to do themselves.

      I can't count the number of times in the last few months when I've seen false accusations made on this site where if the person who made the accusation had a mirror, they'd have been looking at themselves. This extends to the folks who attack me as being a sockpuppet when it seems very clear that they either have several screen names they use or closely monitor. It extends to the rightwingers who claim that we just can't take a joke, when there was no joke to be missed.

      It extends to the McCain surrogate who claimed that Clark was attacking McCain on Obama's behalf, and then decried surrogates making attacks on behalf of someone else! Oxymoron heaven when a surrogate makes a surrogate attack saying that surrogate attacks are bad. Even funnier when the person he's accusing of making a surrogate attack didn't really even make an attack! McCain's surrogate, he did make an attack. Obama's surrogate? He didn't.

      Karl Rove attacked Kerry's strength, his military record. McCain wants to pretend that his own military record is his strength, but a closer examination proves that it's not really such a strength. He was a poor student at the Naval Academy, a poor pilot who lost many planes, and was never going to become an admiral like his dad and granddad accomplished. McCain claims he doesn't run on his miltary record and his POW status, but he really does. However, he doesn't want close scrutiny of it because it can't stand up to that harsh light of reality.

      His supposed strength is really a weakness. And the right is scared. They beat Kerry by lying about his strength. The left will beat McCain by telling the truth about his weakness. Honest information versus dishonest smears.

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      • Author by eweston8542983 (July 04, 2008 10:36 am ET)
           

        I've usually appreciated your posts BB. The attacks on you never seem to address your points. I've accused another of changing names but its just a minor item in a larger reply.

        Enjoy the holiday all, even our new cut and paste troll.

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    • Author by laplacian (July 03, 2008 11:25 pm ET)
         

      New York Times columnist Gail Collins, for example, wrote: "When Schieffer pointed out that Obama had neither run a squadron nor 'ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down,' the correct response was: 'No, and he honors Senator McCain's service.' ... Nevertheless, what Clark said was obviously true."

      This irritates me: totally out of context!  If you read the Collins article, or indeed any of her articles, you know she was being completely facetious when she suggested that Clark should have answered Scheiffer's question with "no, and he honors Senator McCain's service".  In fact, she was lampooning precisely the thing Media Matters is criticizing!

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 05, 2008 12:14 am ET)
           

        We've gotten some of Gail Collins' columns here in our local paper...

        She is not impressive.  She seems to be a Maureen Dowd wannabe.

        Another words, she's leaning toward being a skanky dirtbag. 

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    • Author by pbg (July 04, 2008 12:46 am ET)
         
      Over t digby's somebody made what I think is a devastating argument (can remember who, though) It goes like this:

      There was one aviator who served in Vietnam, who was actually the navy's only ace in that conflict. He was shot down as well--except he managed to bail out over the Gulf of Tonkin, and so avoided what McCain went through.

      After the war, he ran for Congress, where he concerned himself with military matters.

      Such a man, with his heroism and long experience, clearly deserves to be considered for the Presidency.

      If he ever gets out of jail.

      The man is Randy 'Duke' Cunningham.

      I honor his military service....
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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (July 04, 2008 2:46 am ET)
           

        I honor his military service....

        Then you must not question anything else.Unless you hate America.

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    • Author by chamay0 (July 04, 2008 1:16 am ET)
         

      What color is absurd?  McCain's war records is not the rule of who make a better president.  Why do the media spend so much time on Obama?  It's all about keeping the 24/7 alive and of course who the owners of the MSM are.  They have their club of keeping the oppressed down and the money rolling in for themselves.  How dare we the people demand a change of 7+ years of BS.  It had them (MSM as well as Bush's and McCain's lobbyist friends) living fat.  They want another 4 or 8 years of the same.  Who better than addle minded McCain to give it to them?  After all, real reporting of the unbiased truth would give the people What they have already decided.  We all want peace and comfort for having made our decision and more, importantly, having made our decision, being given a little R&R from this overly long campaign.  But no the media have to use one side of the paintbrush to paint a picture to instill fear that we could be stuck with McCain (since he is so close in this race, blah, blah).

      The conservatives hate like hell that this unknown factor (Obama) has come along and given them no chance of winning.  They have pulled out all the stops,  Obama must be defined.! The only problem is that they are dealing with a master general that takes no prisoners.  He plays to win and will not let them reshape him or redefine him.  I just love the fact that he keeps them guessing and even when his surrogates speaks for him it is still part of his master plan!  Go Obama.

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    • Author by eniobob2631 (July 04, 2008 7:06 am ET)
         
      Paui Krugman hit the nail on the head today in his NYT opinion piece.
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      • Author by BottleBlonde (July 04, 2008 4:03 pm ET)
           

        Thanks for pointing this out. Here's the link and a couple of paragraphs that sang out to me.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

        It was predictable that the McCain campaign would go wild over the Clark remarks. Mr. McCain’s run for the White House has always been based on persona rather than policy: he doesn’t have ideas that voters agree with, but he does have an inspiring life story — which, contrary to the myth of the modest maverick, he talks about all the time. The suggestion that this life story isn’t relevant to his quest for office was bound to provoke a violent reaction.

        But the McCain campaign went beyond condemning General Clark’s remarks; it went out of its way to distort them. “This backhanded slap against John as not being a worthy warrior because he just got shot down is one of the more surprising insults in my military history,” said retired Col. Bud Day, who participated in a conference call organized by the campaign. In fact, General Clark had said no such thing.

        The irony, not lost on Democrats, is that Col. Day himself has done what he falsely accused Wesley Clark of doing: he appeared in the 2004 Swift boat ads that impugned John Kerry’s wartime service.

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        • Author by juliajayne (July 05, 2008 10:50 am ET)
             
          That was a very good article by Paul Krugman. Thanks for posting the link. 
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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 05, 2008 12:23 am ET)
           

        I hope he did hit the nail on the head...

        It's pretty rare that many of these wimpy liberal columnists can hit the broad side of a barn.

        We get people like Bob Herbert (super-wimp), Paul Krugman (economics 1A), Maureen Dowd (Fox News wannabe), in our local paper.

        The conservatives are tearing into Obama with lies and crap, and the liberal columnists are working overtime trying to be "reasonable," and writing columns about state politics in Nebraska. 

         

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    • Author by right-winger (July 04, 2008 7:51 am ET)
         

      YOU ARE SO RIGHT JAMISON! I LAUGH EVERYTIME PEOPLE LIKE SO CALLED MR. INDEPENDENT LOU DOBBS AND OTHERS SAY THE MEDIA GIVE OBAMA A FREE RIDE EVERDAY. THE MEDIA LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF BRAIN WASH PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE AROUND MCCAIN.WELL I GUESS WHEN HE WIN IN NOV. WITH THERE HELP WE WILL HAVE TO WAITE LIKE WE DID WITH BUSH TO HAVE ANOTHER BAD WAR WITH IRAN FOR THEM TO WAKE UP ABOUT THIS MAN!!!

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    • Author by see it real (July 04, 2008 3:02 pm ET)
         

      The lying right wing corporate conservative Republican Party controlled news media wants Liar McCain to get elected.  They are showing more favoritism to Liar McCain in this election than they showed favoritism to Liar Bush in BOTH the 2000 and the 2004 rpesidential elections combined.

      Seeing the dis-likes of partisan Republicans like Schieffer at GOP-Viacom-CBS, or Republican Hate Hag Contessa Brewer at GOP-GE-NBC, etc., all working 24-7-365 for Liar McCain's election is sickening.

      No doubt that Steve Schwartz has employed the new tactic in the Republican playbook, active collusion with the conservative news media.

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    • Author by mary59 (July 04, 2008 3:05 pm ET)
         
      Happy 4th, everybody. Here's to an end to phony patriotism, a swing to genuine love of country and planet, and renewed sense of hope.
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    • Author by see it real (July 04, 2008 3:07 pm ET)
         

      Let's honor phony patriots like Liar Sean Hannity, who wore the flag pin while he avoided signing up for the military to fight in Desert Storm 17 years ago.

      Or phony patriots like Liar Dick Cheney, who had 5 defermits to avoid having to fight in Vietnam because he had "better things to do" whatever they were.

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    • Author by my4cents (July 04, 2008 10:09 pm ET)
         

      Unrelated to this thread,

      Happy July 4 to everyone.

       

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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (July 04, 2008 11:48 pm ET)
         

      "When did journalists decide that the "obviously true" answer to a question is not the "correct" answer? When did they decide that it was appropriate to spend days excoriating someone for saying something that is "true" but isn't "well-advised?""

      Thanks so much Jamison Foser.

      You are one of the Minutemen who are slowly and steadily leading us out of this conservative calamity. 

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    • Author by muldoon (July 05, 2008 10:03 am ET)
         

      According to my Webster's, a war hero is "any man admired for his courage, nobility, or exploits, especially in war; as, Washington is a national hero."  Heroism is defined as "1. the qualities and actions of a hero. 2. Brave, noble action or trait. . . SYN.-- courage, fortitude, bravery, valor, intrepidity, gallantry,-- COURAGE denotes fearlessness of danger; FORTITUDE is passive courage, the habit of bearing up nobly under trials, dangers, and sufferings; BRAVERY and VALOR are courage in battle or other conflicts with living opponents; INTREPIDITY is firm courage, which does not shrink from the most appalling dangers; GALLANTRY is adventurous courage, dashing into the thickest of the fight."

      Surviving as a P.O.W. most certinly could require FORTITUDE. It does not, however, automatically elevate one to the status of "War Hero." As an old survivor of the Bataan Death March once told me, "Hail, I was just stayin' alive."

       

       

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      • Author by open_mind (July 05, 2008 10:39 am ET)
           

        McCain is indeed a hero.  I don't think we can even argue against that.  His refusal to leave when offered shows his strength of character. 

        That said, I think the issue Clark brought up - regarding McCain's qualifications for being president is entirely worthy of debate and not out of bounds at all.  This is a fake controversy.

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        • Author by steeve (July 06, 2008 4:26 pm ET)
             
          Some other guy in the 70s, also named John McCain, is a hero.  The John McCain I'm seeing now is pro-torture, anti-troops, and is seeking to ruin this country.  He has nothing in common with that other John McCain, so the other McCain shouldn't even be mentioned in this election.
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    • Author by the Grey Path (July 05, 2008 1:16 pm ET)
         

      Anyone remember Wesley Clark's job in the 1990s?  Maybe .... Commander of NATO who stopped the war in Kosovo, leading to the downfall of Slobodan Milosevic?

      Who's more qualified by his military service?  Clearly, Wesley Clark.
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    • Author by peebs755 (July 05, 2008 4:20 pm ET)
         
      Its situations like these that show that we have to always be ready speak the truth to these lying sacks of... stuff. It galls me that they think that we're not paying attention. Then of course I see that a goodly portion of the country isn't. It can be disheartening. But it doesn't mean I'm not going to stop shouting the truth to all that will listen. 
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    • Author by Dem02020 (July 06, 2008 1:49 am ET)
         

       

      Whatever Mr. Obama decides is right, regarding the management of the U.S. occupation of IRAQ, is based on sound expert Military (and Diplomatic) advice.

      Contrast that, with John McCain's ignorant and slavish interest in the occupation of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney: so ignorant that he doesn't know nor even care what the different and opposed sects of Islam are, that constitute an insurgency against IRAQ's majority Shia government... and so slavish, you'd think McCain was involved in a "profit-sharing plan" for that occupation, as Bush and Cheney are.

      There's no way we want four more years of a Bush Cheney McCain IRAQ (and that's what they're going to cheer I think, at the Republican National Convention, when Bush and McCheney hug and raise each other's arms aloft: "Four More Years! Four More Years!")

      People talk about Hope sometimes, when they talk about Mr. Obama: Hope is a word I don't care about in these matters... it's a word that's nearly synonymous with wishing and dreaming, and in serious even grave matters, those are things for children and fools, not responsible adults.

      Faith and Trust and Belief: those are more constructive and positive words, than are wishes and dreams and Hopes... I have complete Faith and Trust and Belief, in whatever Mr. Obama and his Military (and Diplomatic) advisors think is best, for Mr. Obama to do as our next Commander in Chief: and I especially have Faith in Mr. Obama, to say as little or as much or whatever he thinks is proper, regarding IRAQ, while on the campaign trail between now and November.

      I figure any Democrat who'd second guess Mr. Obama's words about IRAQ, in this campaign, is either too weak of mind and heart to matter for spit... or is in fact really not a Democrat at all, but just someone cheering for "Four More Years", like the political media hack class and the ignorant and dangerous John McCain are.

        

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    • Author by mdeatherage (July 06, 2008 5:23 am ET)
         
      Bud Day is not just any SBVFT smear artist. He met John McCain in the POW hospital in Vietnam. He's been one of McCain's close friends ever since that meeting in 1967. Day was John McCain's divorce lawyer.

      And when Day participated in the 2004 Swift Boat ads that McCain "denounced," McCain appears not to have had enough pull with his friend of four decades to get him to stop lying about Sen. Kerry. All of these facts are well established in news reports—but no news organizations connect the dots and ask McCain to explain how he couldn't even get his close personal friends to stop acting in a way McCain himself called "dishonest and dishonorable."
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      • Author by jasonspenceclark2515 (July 06, 2008 6:11 pm ET)
           
        lets see, did John Kerry go to vietnam to be a hero? yes, he took a video camera, he wrote reports recommending himself for medals, when tradition says that others recommend you for medals. Was he a hero there? I don't know, maybe. maybe not, maybe for just being there he was a hero. He came back and threw his medals over the white house fence, and protested the war. And said horrible things about the troops. He went to paris to meet with communist vietnam representatives. These two things are simultaneously inconsistent.

        I can see how John kerry could be eager about the war and then be against the war months later. But to be in 2004 and say I am a war hero, and I am a war protester. In the same breath, on the same day. Over and Over. Doesn't make sense.

        He can't get credit for both. And he tried. He should have just wore one of the hats. Pick a hat and wear it, war hero or war protester. Just pick one for Gods sake. Don't wear both hats at the same time.

        That was the main problem with John Kerrys campaign. The swift boaters did not do much beyond that. No one likes to here swiftboaters say they saw john kerry act like a coward on many occasions. We just don't care to here that negativity. But what did resonate with thinking people was the contradiction as running on the laurels of war hero, and war protester, protesting the same war! It was not consistent. And it made Kerry look weak, like a flip flopper!

        If he had been elected, we would have gotten out of iraq sooner, and maybe Iraq would be fine, or maybe they would have more and more chaos. I don't know. But Iraq seems to have gotten better this year. Even though we should have not stayed more than a year, with a big force. We should have done iraq the same way we did afganistan, go in with few numbers and keep very small numbers there, and let the iraqis rule themselves.
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