"Media Matters"; by Jamison Foser
Access denied
For years, the media's favorable treatment of John McCain has been so impossible to deny that many journalists have refused to even try, choosing to explain the favoritism rather than contest its existence. One common explanation has always been that the media treat McCain well because he treats them well, offering them unprecedented access and candor.
This has always been a troubling explanation to those who think that the media should report candidates' flaws regardless of the candidates' efforts to keep them fat and happy with jelly doughnuts and jocular nicknames. Hours of back-of-the-bus conversations fueled by sweetened baked goods may justify reporters liking McCain better than other candidates, but they don't justify treating him better than other candidates.
But that's just what happens. Time's Ana Marie Cox explained recently:
This is something that I've said whenever discussions of McCain -- McCain's sort of courting of the press comes up. I think that with McCain, it's not that he's such a great, charismatic guy; it is actually just the simple fact of access that makes people give him that second chance.
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McCain's traveling press corps, I think, tend to like him very much and are appreciative of that time that he spends with them. And, even though the access is not as good as it used to be, there's a great deal of effort put into making journalists, you know, sort of a part of the process. And his staff, you know, loves to hang out with journalists. And so, there's just sort of an aura of access.
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Anyway, I mean, I think it's, like, sort of like obvious ... that, like, more access is good for democracy.
But access doesn't do much for democracy if reporters don't use that access to help voters understand the candidates' positions. And it is abundantly clear that the reporters who enjoy McCain's company on his campaign bus have not used their access as well as they could.
Nearly seven months after John McCain said he wouldn't mind keeping U.S. troops in Iraq for 100 years, then explained that he didn't mean American troops would continue fighting in Iraq, political reporters haven't used their vaunted access to McCain to ask him how long he would be willing to keep fighting. Nor have they used their access to ask him to reconcile his statement that American troops would remain in Iraq just like they remain in South Korea with his previous statement that the two situations are not analogous.
They haven't asked him to reconcile his previous criticism of the Bush tax cuts as unfairly skewed toward the wealthy with the fact that he now advocates tax cuts that would save McCain and his wealthy wife nearly $400,000 per year.
They haven't asked him to reconcile his (and their) claims that he is a "maverick" with the fact that he's voted with George W. Bush 95 percent of the time this year -- a higher percentage than any other senator.
They haven't asked him countless other completely obvious questions. Or, if they have, they've kept his answers secret.
Instead, they engage in what The New Yorker's Ryan Lizza described as "long stretches of banter punctuated by short, intense discussions of politics and policy." (Not long stretches of policy discussions punctuated by short banter. Long stretches of banter. That's how the political reporters who cover McCain make use of this wonderful "access" the great man grants them. Banter. Long banter.)
They haven't gotten any straight answers out of John McCain about exactly how he would, as he promises, reduce the deficit while cutting taxes for rich people like John and Cindy McCain and continuing the Iraq war indefinitely. The bus fills with "the awkward silence of journalists with no more questions" before such matters are explained. But reporters do make sure to talk to McCain about his feelings about a pet chicken and Marlon Brando movies. They ask his favorite word (and, for all we know, what kind of tree he would be if he were he a tree.) According to The Washington Post's Dana Milbank, one reporter aboard the 2000 version of the Straight Talk Express "actually apologized before asking a policy question, apologized to the other reporters." The Chicago Tribune's James Warren agreed: "if you want to see people groan, you should see them in back of the McCain bus when I start engaging him on the subject of U.S. policy toward Rwanda."
(Bob Somerby has cataloged these and other examples of the media's misuse and abuse of their access to John McCain at The Daily Howler.)
Now, it's perfectly fine for journalists to ask the occasional frivolous question, even if there are serious ones still unanswered. There's nothing wrong with -- every once in a while -- having a bite of dessert before you finish your asparagus. But reporters have had months to press McCain on how long he is willing to continue fighting in Iraq, or on his shifting positions on whether the U.S. can maintain forces there as we do in South Korea, or on why he is now backing tax policies that would save him and his wife hundreds of thousands of dollars when he previously criticized similar tax cuts for being too skewed toward the wealthy. The asparagus is getting awfully cold.
The truth is, not only have journalists done a poor job of using the access McCain grants them, but their access isn't as great as they claim.
Two months ago, after Newsweek published an article the McCain camp didn't like, McCain aide Mark Salter reportedly threatened to throw the magazine's reporters off the campaign bus. During the 2000 campaign, an Arizona Republic reporter was kicked off the bus after her newspaper ran an editorial questioning whether McCain "has the temperament and the political approach and skills we want in the next president of the United States." In August 2006, a senior McCain strategist allegedly told another Arizona Republic reporter he was "off the bus" after an article the McCain camp didn't like.
In late June, The Washington Post reported that McCain's new campaign plane features a "special area" with a couch and captain's chairs where McCain will conduct interviews -- and that Salter said "only the good reporters" would get to sit in the area; "You'll have to earn it." Asked about Salter's comments, the Post's Howard Kurtz wrote: "I think Mark Salter ... was joking and we should all lighten up. Can you imagine the uproar if the McCain campaign actually had a policy of rewarding favorable reporters with access to the candidate on the plane and shutting out those who dared to be critical? There would be a media revolt."
But would there be a revolt? McCain's hostility toward Arizona reporters has long been known, and there was no media revolt. His campaign has reportedly kicked at least one off a campaign bus, and there was no revolt. Salter reportedly threatened to throw Newsweek off the bus just a month before he "joked" about reporters having to "earn" a seat next to McCain -- and there was no revolt.
Just this week, Mother Jones Washington bureau chief David Corn wrote that "it seem[s] that the McCain campaign has been screening questioners during the conference calls featuring campaign aides and top-level surrogates it mounts for reporters." According to Corn, he and at least one other progressive reporter have repeatedly tried to ask questions during those conference calls, with no success, leading "several journalists who have participated in these calls to wonder: is the McCain campaign screening reporters, and, if so, on what basis?"
Corn describes one call on which he was waiting to ask a question when a McCain aide ended the call, claiming "we are out of questions" and another in which "only two questions were taken" -- and both were "soft balls" from conservative bloggers. When Corn contacted the McCain campaign -- multiple times -- about whether it screens questions on the calls, the campaign did not respond. (A McCain spokesperson did eventually -- and vaguely -- answer a question from Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent about the calls, claiming the campaign "take[s] on all comers.") It may not involve a privileged seat on the campaign plane, but Corn's story seems a pretty clear example of the McCain campaign "rewarding favorable reporters with access ... and shutting out those who dared to be critical." And there has been no revolt.
"Access" doesn't mean anything -- isn't "good for democracy" -- if the reporters won't use it, and if they are punished when they do. But rather than "revolt," the "good reporters" gush about the access they are granted. It seems reporters who talk about how much access McCain allows probably aren't using it very well.
And whatever access reporters used to have is apparently dwindling.
The Wall Street Journal's Elizabeth Holmes reported this week:
In his fight for the Republican nomination, John McCain allowed almost unlimited access to reporters. Now, as the Arizona senator re-organizes his operation and tightens control of his message, the campaign has taken to cherry-picking who and what media outlets get the most face-time with the candidate. [...] McCain's about-face is not new. For about a month, the national press has had very limited access, which is in stark contrast to the primary season and the early start of the general election contest.
The Post's Michael Shear added:
Welcome to the new John McCain press strategy.
Avoid them.
McCain today held a 10-minute press conference, complete with podium, microphones for the questioners, network-quality audio and a camera for a local television station, which allowed CNN to carry it live.
And where was the national press corps?
Sitting on the runway 27 miles away, having been ferried to McCain's charter plane, totally unaware that a press availability was about to take place until one of the handful of "pool reporters" sent an e-mail alert.
The reporters frantically fired up their cellular modems and logged on to CNN.com to catch the end of the press conference, unable to ask any questions.
That's interesting -- according to Shear, the national press corps was not only not invited to the press conference, they were "ferried" 27 miles away from the candidate, without being told that the presser was occurring. Sound familiar? It should. When Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton met at Dianne Feinstein's house in June, Obama's campaign didn't tell reporters about the meeting, instead flying them to Chicago while Obama stayed in Washington for the meeting.
The media were so incensed at the treatment that the Washington bureau chiefs of six leading news organizations signed a letter to the Obama campaign complaining:
Last night, the press corps traveling with Senator Obama was misled, and was also flown to Chicago without the Senator. The Washington bureau chiefs of ABC News, CBS News, CNN, Fox News, NBC News, and the Associated Press strongly protest the events of last night.
Granted, Chicago and Washington are more than 27 miles apart. But the principle is the same: This week, McCain's traveling press corps was "ferried" miles away while the candidate, unbeknownst to the reporters, held a press conference. If any news organization has sent a letter to the McCain campaign complaining, they haven't told anyone else. The bureau chiefs concluded:
Going forward, we know from experience that covering a presidential campaign requires that some representatives of the press corps be with, or near, the Senator at all times as part of the "security package," just as the White House press corps is with the president. There may be times when the Senator needs to address the press corps about unexpected and dramatic news events, and there may be times when history demands the press corps be in close proximity to the Senator. This is standard operating procedure for the President of the United States, a job to which he aspires, and for presumptive nominees.
The request apparently worked: In late June, Time's Karen Tumulty reported, "The press corps covering Barack Obama has insisted upon what is known as a 'protective pool,' similar to the one that is always on duty with the President." Tumulty then quoted the pool report.
But guess what? John McCain does not have such a pool, according to a blog post by Tumulty this week: "Many of our commenters have asked whether John McCain has a similar protective pool arrangement. As it happens, I am traveling with the McCain campaign this week ... and can report definitively that he does not. However, campaign officials have indicated to reporters that establishing one is a possibility in the near future."
So, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, NBC, and the Associated Press wrote a letter to Obama demanding "protective pool" coverage of Obama, a request his campaign granted. But, it turns out, John McCain has not granted this access -- and the media have kept quiet about it.
Yet another excuse for the media's favorable treatment of McCain is in shambles.
















Great. McCain gives you jelly doughnuts and coffee for free and cracks jokes with you, so you give him a free pass on being a shill for a lying, corrupt, criminal administration who lied America into an illegal war and for essentially wanting to continue that if he gets to move into the White House. Not to mention his flip-flops and reversals for political expediency which contradict his "maverick" and "straight talk" images that the media incessantly continue to bestow upon him. What a press corps America has.
THANK YOU.
njguy93@yahoo.com
The housing market, the stock market and gas prices will ensure a Democratic victory in November. The economy has overtaken the War on Terror as the dominant public concern.
McCain's 100 years in Iraq comment has been mischaracterized by the left, which is not surprising. However, the "lying America into an illegal war" meme does deserve a response. Let's say for the sake of argument that Bush did lie America into an illegal war as I've read many times. The Democratic leadership, having control of Congress, would have the responsibility of doing something about that. They have not. Pelosi took impeachment off the table a long time ago. They have voted for the FISA bill. They are Radical Centrists all the way. I understand the outrage at Bush because let's face it you never liked him in the first place. You wouldn't like him even if his approval rating was in the 60% range. But how about some outrage at the Democratic Party for doing exactly nothing since 2006 despite having a supposed mandate to do something, anything.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
"However, keep in mind that the Dems don't have the power to override vetoes either."
They don't NEED to override a veto. They had the chance to end this war the very first time Bush threatened to veto a funding bill because it also contained something he didn't like. All they had to do was let that veto stand and not allow ANY "war funding" bill to go through a vote unless it had that same, or some other, provision Bush would veto.
Let that veto sit on the desk. It would be ALL Bush holding up the funding, not the Congress. And if he DOES eventually sign a funding bill with something he doesn't like...well, at least the country will have GAINED that!
Congress controls the purse strings. Why aren't they DOING that? You want outrage? You've got it. I've been outraged since the very first time this "Democratic" Congress caved to Bush's veto threats and I'm outraged every time they continue to do that.
And that's why they're gonna lose in November. Nobody's saying anything. That's the whole point of the article, and the prospect is very gloomy.
As Ted Kennedy said years ago during the early years of the Reagan administration, things are going to have to get much worse before they get better. That's history.
There has been a great deal of outrage over the Dems not standing up and changing things, about Pelosi taking impeachment off the table and about the FISA vote. Check out stirctly Democratic/liberal sites if you want a sample of the fighting over these matters.
However, the Democratic majority in Congress is not large enough to get over Republican parliamentary maneuvers or an outright Presidential veto without a nearly unanimous vote by Democrats and perhaps a few crossover votes. This is complicated by the fact that the media seems to be pretty willing to cover votes and issues according to the Republican storyline. (How many times have you seen a major media portrayal of the FISA vote as a battle over constitutional rights as opposed to being a matter of national security and terrorism?) And this last bit is exactly what this piece about McCain gets to. Our current media are pliant little wh*res, easily bribed and easily cowed.
So what is the problem with a VETO?
Fisa is the one thing that should never have been caved on.
travesty.
(and Impeachment of course!)
I don't think it was a political calculation as much as $$$. From CBS new.com:
The 94 Democrats who changed their positions received on average $8,359 in contributions from Verizon, AT&T and Sprint from January, 2005, to March, 2008, according to the analysis by MAPLight, a nonpartisan organization that tracks the connection between campaign contributions and legislative outcomes.
Been explained several times in the past, Bush once only. But you are either unwilling to accept that or you are looking for a fight. Keep looking.
Why? Because you guys have so screwed my country that you deserve not a moment's rest from being constantly reminded of your failures, nor do you deserve an inch of credibility.
Your Republican party is utterly unfit for leadership. The conservative worldview is an elitist, violent ideology and I will not ever let you forget it. If you don't like it, stop reading my posts, but I will not stop responding to you.
Did Oscar himself say something that supports a "violent" world view? Is there some personal history here that influences your post, because it seems awfully generalized.
Maybe we should differentiate between "conservative" and neo-conservative". I wouldn't discredit the larger group entirely because of the actions of the subgroup. Look at people like Philib and Proudconservative and then compare them with those like Bruce or Oscar. There's certainly a difference there, don't you think?
Also, I find it irrelevant to the subject at hand. We don't accept distractions like "well so-and-so said this..." from right-wingers here. If it happens on both sides, fine, but the criticism is still valid. Similarly, pointing out that money is too strong of an influence on many Democrats is a valid criticism, and lashing out against the Republicans in general doesn't address that. Of course the Republicans are a disaster, but that doesn't excuse Democrats from their obligation to act responsibly and with principles, nor does it deny anyone's right to criticize them for failure to do so.
If Oscar's said or implied that Dems are just as bad as the Republicans of the last seven and a half years, or has claimed Bush is a great leader, then of course that would speak to credibility. Oscar's always seemed more reasonable than that from what I've seen, whether I agree with him or not. Trying to discredit people solely due to their general political outlook only exacerbates the polarization we're experiencing.
He spoke with his vote. He voted Republican.
I don't see much distinction between a neocon and your everyday con. They both share big picture commonality. Do you really think that had Iraq gone differently, perhaps better, that these clowns would understand or acknowledge the monumental moral misstep it was to invade Iraq in the first place? I am doubtful. From what I can see, they both share the belief that militarism is better foreign policy.
Also, do you think the everyday con differs on economic issues from a neocon? I'm saying do you really believe that the market fundie belief of deregulation of the market or the privatization of the commons are areas of disagreement among the two? I don't.
I don't really see being nice, or even being reasonable, as much of an excuse for being a conservative and voting to perpetuate conservatism. Not when one can just look at the dismal economic failure that their brand of capitalism generates, or the proliferation of strife and anger that their thug diplomacy elevates, or the lack of equality that their lunatic ideology foments for homosexuals, women and minorities.
There's no excuse for conservatism.
"Also, I find it irrelevant to the subject at hand. We don't accept distractions like "well so-and-so said this..." from right-wingers here."
You know the answer to that one. If I am irrelevant, flag me. Have me removed. Or simply ignore me. I am as sorry to say that to you as am to read that from you, because I really like your style and grace.
"Similarly, pointing out that money is too strong of an influence on many Democrats is a valid criticism, and lashing out against the Republicans in general doesn't address that."
Show me where I make excuses. I am a populist progressive, I make no excuses for weak-kneed Democrats. Period. But I sure as shit ain't going to cut a Republican any slack, either. Especially not because they're nice, or seem reasonable. They're just wolves in sheep's clothing in my view.
"If Oscar's said or implied that Dems are just as bad as the Republicans of the last seven and a half years...."
Seven and a half years? You let them off too easy. The last seven and a half years is merely the culmination of, the logical conclusion to, the last thirty years of the conservative movement's slow takeover of the American political and cultural landscape. And we let it happen.
"Trying to discredit people solely due to their general political outlook only exacerbates the polarization we're experiencing."
Well, take it or leave it, my friend. Because if that general political outlook isn't changed, then it will be nearly impossible to change specific political views on all the good old American notions of the economy, foreign policy, equality, patriotism, responsibility etc..
No, I'm not terribly sorry for laying into Oscar or Bruce. I can entertain their ideas without accepting them and I do, I just find their nice guy schtick to be disingenuous. I am not buying in.
"He spoke with his vote. He voted Republican{...}From what I can see, they both share the belief that militarism is better foreign policy."
But you're not just talking about conservatives, you're talking about Republicans. Every Republican thinks that invasion is sound foreign policy? If you want to make the charge that the two of them are not moderate and actually support that policy, then make that specific argument. The generalization is the problem.
"I don't really see being nice, or even being reasonable, as much of an excuse for being a conservative and voting to perpetuate conservatism. Not when one can just look at the dismal economic failure that their brand of capitalism generates, or the proliferation of strife and anger that their thug diplomacy elevates, or the lack of equality that their lunatic ideology foments for homosexuals, women and minorities...There's no excuse for conservatism."
Again, you talk about Republicans, not just conservatives. But even among conservatives there is a range of beliefs, so you can't paint all of them as "lunatic" or a bigot of any sort.
"You know the answer to that one. If I am irrelevant, flag me. Have me removed. Or simply ignore me. I am as sorry to say that to you as am to read that from you, because I really like your style and grace."
I'd rather have a reasonable exchange with someone than ignore them. If I have to ignore or flag someone, that tells me that they're not willing to consider the nature of their posts at all. I've always thought you were better than that. I do appreciate the compliment, by the way.
"Show me where I make excuses. I am a populist progressive, I make no excuses for weak-kneed Democrats. Period. But I sure as shit ain't going to cut a Republican any slack, either. Especially not because they're nice, or seem reasonable. They're just wolves in sheep's clothing in my view."
That is prejudicial, and therefore irrational. A right-of-center ideology is not the problem, it's the degree and respectability of behavior that's important. I didn't think I said or implied you were making excuses, I thought I said that you were dismissing the argument because the person making it didn't share your political views. The idea that you agree with what was said makes your dismissal even more unreasonable.
"Seven and a half years? You let them off too easy. The last seven and a half years is merely the culmination of, the logical conclusion to, the last thirty years of the conservative movement's slow takeover of the American political and cultural landscape. And we let it happen."
I won't dispute the timeline, but still you can't attribute the worst characteristics of specific conservatives to tens of millions of Americans.
"Well, take it or leave it, my friend. Because if that general political outlook isn't changed, then it will be nearly impossible to change specific political views on all the good old American notions of the economy, foreign policy, equality, patriotism, responsibility etc....No, I'm not terribly sorry for laying into Oscar or Bruce. I can entertain their ideas without accepting them and I do, I just find their nice guy schtick to be disingenuous. I am not buying in."
My concern is that lumping everyone together does nothing to encourage moderate behavior. If we make no distinction between the more moderate elements and the extreme ones, then how does that lend us any credibility? That would make it completely impossible to change specific political views. The Republican party is not going to wither and blow away just because liberals are combative towards them. As I said, it just exacerbates the divisiveness, breeding more extremism.
Progressives like you and I generally have a more developed ability and desire to empathize. There are so many of us that are not black or gay or female, yet we can recognize injustices against others because we wouldn't want to be treated that way ourselves. So try imagining yourself in a scenario;Gore wins the Presidency and does everything that Bush has done, at least in terms of illegality, extremism, and disfavor with the public. Let's say for thirty years that the party that best exhibits your principles was overrun by radicals who made honest liberals like you look bad. You want more reasonable people representing you, of course, but that's just not how it goes. Now, some conservative blasts you as being part of the problem, a wolf in sheep's clothing, the enemy. You are not able to make any criticisms of Republicans, because the extremists in your party make your personal philosophy inexcusable.
You'd tell them to go f*** themselves, right? And if you're going to get that kind of static for being honest in your philosophy and actions, what's your motivation to continue being honest?
No, moderates of any philosophy should be encouraged. We can still disagree, but without the polarization. Let the moderates and the extremists fight for the soul of their party, instead of creating a common enemy they feel they have to unite against. And most importantly, belligerence and prejudicial generalizations only detracts from our own credibility, it makes us more like the cutthroat bastards you justifiably loathe on the other side, and that diminishes any distinction between the ideologies that you want the public to carry into the voting booth with them.
Well put. I get angry. It's counterproductive. That's undeniable.
Thanks for taking the time to chat.
It just occurred to me to cite the war on terror here. Think about the way that's been handled. We don't care about civilian casualties, we don't distinguish between terrorists and insurgents, Shiites and Sunnis. It's all shock and awe, breaking eggs to make the big omelet. It's a military solution to an enforcement/intelligence problem.
Of course, anti-American sentiment is a major factor in terrorist recruitment. So what does invading a sovereign nation do for our image? It justifies the image of America that terrorists work from. A better way to go about it is to appeal to more reasonable elements in the Middle East in an effort to work together and reduce terrorism as much as possible. We would retain the respect of the international community along with a civil relationship with people who have a much different viewpoint.
Obviously there are differences, but I feel the principle applies quite well.
I think a lot of people, including myself, looked back on the 12 years of one party in the White House and didn't like what we saw. Gore would have made 12 years of the other party, hence I believe there was some backlash. Also, the markets had started slowing down and the economy was cooling. Would it be different if there were a revote? Certainly, but again we can have as much of an impact on the country by who we elect to Congress as who we elect President. Besides, our votes for local representation count where our vote for President may mean little, depending on what State we reside in. I voted for Bush in 2000, but the States electoral votes went to Gore (as I knew it would going in). If you are looking for scapegoats, look at Tennesse (Gore's home state, which he did not carry). If he could have carried Tennesse, Florida would not have even come into play. What did the voters of Tennesse think they knew about a homeboy that caused that vote to go against him?
"If you are looking for scapegoats, look at Tennesse (Gore's home state, which he did not carry). If he could have carried Tennesse, Florida would not have even come into play."
Utterly irrelevant. If an unfair process in Florida cost him the election, then there's no reasonable way of pointing anywhere else, since a fair process in that state would have given him his due victory.
A win is a win. If your favorite basketball team should have won by one point, but a horrendous call gives the opposing team two free throws at the end, you still got robbed. Someone arguing that your team could have scored more points would be completely absurd.
Could you define specifically what was unfair about the process in Florida?
It's been debated for years, that Dems could have won had the ballots been counted this way or that way and maybe that's true. But what I know for a fact is that each person that went into that voting booth in the state of Florida had the opportunity to cast one vote accurately for the candidate of their choice, and too many people that went to vote for Al Gore couldn't complete that process in an accurate manner. Their own incompetence in filling out the ballot put their vote in jeapardy. To me, that is an undeniable truth.
How about Katherine Harris changing the protocol for "scrubbing" the voter list so that anyone with a similar name as a felon was unable to vote? That prevented thousands of people from voting. And if this didn't give Bush an advantage, why would his own campaign co-chair go through the trouble?
As for the butterfly ballot, we've been over this before. It was illegal, whether designed by a self-labeled "Democrat" or not. The whole reason it's illegal is because it's confusing. Even Pat Buchanan admitted this. People are used to a different kind of ballot, that's what they expect. It's like turning onto a street and finding out that on this particular street you're supposed to be driving on the left. Even if there's a sign indicating that you wouldn't accept a ticket for "not driving properly", obviously.
The ballot was approved prior to the election by both parties. It was not a good design. It will not be used again, I'm sure.
However, anyone who was confused should have had their confusion clarified by a voting official prior to submitting their ballot.
oscar, there was nothing the people of tennessee knew that the rest of the country didn't. and that's all beside the point of what i said. bush was unfit for the office. drinking, partying, and running three businesses into the ground by the age of 40 are not a good record. it was obvious he was inept, and he has proved it every day of his administration.
Bruce, I don't think you're going to get any disagreement from most liberals that the dem leadership has been spineless and beaten. So, I'm not sure what your point is. Especially considering that this is a thread about the media falling over themselves to "lay hands", as the Jesus Campers would say, on McCain.
Yet, how easy it must be in your mind to absolve your boys of fighting for the wrong side.
Keep voting Republican, buddy. Keep acting like it's conservatism that has been failed. Keep shirking your responsibility to accept that conservatism itself is the failure.
My views aren't all or nothing one way or the other. I certainly lean to the right on more issues than not. And I've already declared for Obama in November so therefore what?
Okay mefirst. If your side is going to decide how to proceed based on what Hannity or Limbaugh might say about you (they might say some mean things after all) then God help your party. Note: They are going to criticize your side no matter what you do.
If you have the facts to proceed on impeachment, then proceed. I'm talking about the cold hard facts. The slam dunk case-closed facts. Going forward with impeachment hearings would show John Q Public a little something, like maybe you really do have the facts on your side and not just the left wing talking point "facts".
If you only have the "facts" to proceed on impeachment and you're throwing stuff against the wall to see if it might stick, then sure that might backfire on you, with good reason. Maybe that's why Pelosi backed down. She doesn't believe you have a winnable case. Maybe...
I think it's a tough question, and I largely agree Dems should impeach even if it's not successful. However, the failure to do so does not reflect on the merits of the case just because it's so likely to fail and backfire. Are Republicans really going to break ranks to kick one of their own out of office, in this political environment? With the right-wing spin and echo chamber the public might see it as partisan, revenge for Clinton's impeachment, etc. It seems more and more obvious that Republicans are much better at getting their message out there.
Between cooking intelligence to justify the invasion of a sovereign nation, torture, outing a CIA agent and circumventing FISA to spy on Americans, there's enough to impeach Bush and Cheney both. The failure to take a huge political risk for highly uncertain reward does nothing to change that.
McCain's 100 years in Iraq comment has been mischaracterized by the left, which is not surprising.
It hasn't been mischaracterized. Make no mistake, McCain wants to stay in Iraq forever and dynamics of the situation will always be the same. He's delusional if he thinks the Iraqis will accept a foriegn presence in their country.
"What else is there?"
Keep letting us fund, train, and build their war machine until they can run us out with the weapons WE PAYED FOR?
Yeah, those so called Dems piss me off too, but sometimes you're such a disgusting, dishonest punk.
Aside from your jerkwad block and blame R's in Congress, how about YOU show some outrage for the selfsame corporate conservative whores who voted in lockstep, to a man, to gut the fourth amendment on this FISA shizzit?
Just keep voting for Republicans. You and Oscar both. Keep up the good fight you toady.
Don't try to pretend you have any liberal leanings.
It isn't like they have been filibustered to death by your Republicans, or anything. So don't even start it. Your Republican pals have set historic records for the amount of filibusters.
It's been the Republican strategy to block the process and blame the Dems as a bunch of do nothings. YOU have obviously been duped. At this point I'm gonna have to say our ignorance is willful.
I made that comment, not Oscar. At least point your outrage at the right person.
And that may have been a smart thing. Do you really want this psychotic administration cornered, looking for a way out? They have shown over and over that no distraction is too big, or too bloody, to forego in the name of covering their own asses.
Furthermore, I reject your implication that prudence in the company of powerful madmen is at all on the same level as worry.
NJGUY,
Sad.... isn't it!
Our illustrious 4th estate is willing to let jelly donuts, coffee, and nicknames interfere with their needing to be objective.
Isn't this just another form of bribe? If it were actual cash money being offered..... would that be any different than what is already occuring??
It's Homer Simpson journalism.
quote from article: "This has always been a troubling explanation to those who think that the media should report candidates' flaws regardless of the candidates' efforts to keep them fat and happy with jelly doughnuts and jocular nicknames. "
So when is Media Matters going to start embracing what they preach? I guess this mantra applies only to conservatives?
They haven't asked him to reconcile his (and their) claims that he is a "maverick" with the fact that he's voted with George W. Bush 95 percent of the time this year -- a higher percentage than any other senator.
Like wow, Anna Marie Cox sounds so like, you know, like a valley girl.
Meanwhile, banter passes muster as journalitic probity.
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/all-hat-and-no-cattle
Round,
I'm sure Julia will get around to reading the link you provided, if she hasn't done so already, but I just read it and though you are correct that it isn't specifically relevant to this particular thread, it is relevant in other ways..... and like you, I will not mention what those 'ways' are.....
I invite everyone to read the link that RoundHouse has provided.... it is both moving and will perhaps will boil your blood a little bit too?
"Like wow, Anna Marie Cox sounds so like, you know, like a valley girl.
Meanwhile, banter passes muster as journalitic probity."
Yeah, ana Marie Cox sounds like a Republican Valley Hate Hag from Republican Simi Valley.
I believe the term "Valley Hate Hag" fits Republican women like Ana Marie Cox perfectly.
During the Primary I remember Carlson, when he had his show talk about how sure the media was being biased against Clinton, there is great enmity from the media towards the Clintons, they earned our enmity and they shouldn't be surprised at it now!
YIKES.
Then, more recently, at the end of the primary I saw Jonathan Alterman on Verdict saying that yeah there was bias from the media... but thee was no enmity, we were just tired of them, we were sick ofcovering them, we wanted them gone.
Dan Abrams and the other guest had their eyes bugging out and their jaws on the floor.
Dan said something about it and Alterman then began to show how much enmity, getting very red in the face and saying they treated the Press terribly, one of the media liason guys was so rude, you should have seen the room they put ius in... on and on, obviously infuriated!
alrighty then,m I guess if you aren't being courted like the syncophants you are its A-OK to malign and distort someone to get even.
nice.
Last week I heard that putz Matthews say something about the media not that crazy about Obama now and will this cause him trouble. I don't remember who he was talking to but they agreed and kind of petulantly added that he should start treating the press better or giving more access, something like that.
so here it goes again.
Damn them.
We so need to overthrow corporate media.
Yes!
Another money bomb campaign at some point?
Oh Lord, I don't know!
I am looking to find the organizations that are working to take the "news" out of the hands of corporate interests.
Let them have the disasters, the show biz, the accidents, the crime but keep politics and corporate coverage away from them.
Again, how?
I have no idea.
First of all making sure that pure progressives are elected in down ticket races as much as humanely possible.
Well, pure isn't really the word since to be in Washington means you will compromiseto get things done.
sigh.
"Few grassroots groups can afford blocks of radio airtime in large media markets. But in that swath of our country’s middle recently rediscovered by Howard Dean, it is still possible for those with limited resources to compete with media conglomerates’ talking heads. The way forward is not to think big, but small – grassroots. Unlike “the other guys,” we don’t need billionaires to do this for us. We do it ourselves.
If you’re not Goliath, fine. Be David.
A loose network of citizen activists (and/or 527 committees), operating locally, can in time erode the message dominance of conservative talk radio. We will plant seeds we may not harvest in a single election cycle. That’s okay. It’s not a quick fix – it took conservative think tanks decades to build their infrastructure – but it won’t happen unless we have the patience and discipline to begin. Start in the provinces where costs are low. Build support there and work towards the capitol. It is a classic strategy for taking on a more-powerful, more-centralized adversary.
Will local media outlets work with you? Not all. But in the end, here is the kind of pressure the corporate media responds to: cash, credit and travelers checks.
This is not theory. You don't have to be Rupert Murdoch or Roger Ailes to do this. Our group is on the air now in western North Carolina. It may not be much yet, but it’s a start. Rather than remain mute, or complain about what resources we don't have, we choose to reclaim our country with the means at our disposal."
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/taking-radio-goliaths
"Over at TPM Cafe, Jared Bernstein asks, "What steps ought we be taking now that will ultimately give progressive uprisings a public conduit through which their goals can be achieved?"
This is the $64,000 question—or, in the age of the Iraq War, the $1 trillion question. Based on my reporting for The Uprising, here are five concepts I think we need to get comfortable with—one is about our focus, one is about structure, one about what we organize around, one is about what instruments of influence we use, and one is about the methods we must rekindle."
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/five-ideas-start-going-uprising-movement
AA,
I'd start with a grassroots movement, the likes of which Thom Hartmann wrote about in his book "UnEqual Protection" to take away the stolen 'human rights' and 'personhood' that corporations had given themselves via the 1886 Santa Clara v Southern Railroad decision that DID NOT infact given them these.... it was a court reporter that wrote that corporations were those things as an endnote to the brief!
The Supreme Court never did such a thing but the corporations have gone with it since and no one has stopped them......
Then, more recently, at the end of the primary I saw Jonathan Alterman on Verdict saying that yeah there was bias from the media...
One quick point. It's Jonathan Alter, and Eric Alterman.
I used to love these weelky summaries at MMFA, and they're still as good as they've always been, but the media sucks so bad that such analysis no longer means anything.
It's like a great intellectual writing a serious and detailed treatise on why a pig wallows in one mud puddle rather than another.
John McCain purposely had the press that were covering him "ferried" to McCain's plane so that they were unable to cover his press conference. If I were McCain I would do the same thing because it seems everytime he opens his mouth, especially this week, he further makes the case against himself.
Was anything in the article incorrect?
Foser and Boehlert are unassailable. People argue in their threads, but never against them.
I don't see the implication. It's a legitimate complaint about treatment of McCain, it doesn't suggest that everyone is in his corner.
Moreover, equal treatment doesn't mean fair or accurate reporting. For instance, Obama could make ten major blunders in a week while McCain didn't say anything genuinely controversial or inaccurate. But if that week's news cycle is 30% pro-Obama and 30% pro-McCain, obviously there's something seriously wrong with that picture. I'm not saying that it's necessarily the case in reverse, but logically even if that balance exists it could prove a pro-McCain bias.
The entire national media has failed to delve into substantive questions with McCain, which is all the article said.
The "impression" the article leaves is that the media is incapable of doing substance well. That is correct on every interpretative level.
AGAIN THANK YOU MR.FOSER!!! IT'S JUST LIKE BUSH IN 2000 THE MEDIA FELL ALL OVER HIM AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FELT FOR IT AND THEY ARE DOING IT AGAIN WITH MCCAIN. I WAS WATCHING THE NEWS SHOWS LAST NIGHT TO SEE HOW LONG THEY WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE GRAMM STORY AND THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE REPUBLICANS SAID AMERICANS DON'T CARE ABOUT THE GRAMM STORY THEY CARE ABOUT HIGH GAS PRICE, FOOD PRICES AND THERE JOBS. THEN THE OTHER ONE SAID I DON'T CARE HOW HARD THE MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATES ARE JUMPING ON MCCAIN EVERYTIME HE SAY SOMETHING WRONG HE WILL STAY ON MESSAGES. I LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN THEY MADE THOSE STATEMENT. NOW LOOK AT THE GRAMM STORY IT'S OFF THE NEWS IN ONE DAY. HEY CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY DAYS THE MEDIA HAD THE GEN. CLARK STORY RUNNING? MORE THAN ONE DAY!!!