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Kristol and Brooks play dumb at The New York Times

October 14, 2008 11:57 am ET

Back in June, at a time when he felt Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign was stuck in neutral, National Review editor Rich Lowry suggested that a quick-fix for the Republican candidate would be for conservative thinker and New York Times columnist Bill Kristol to take a temporary leave from the paper and officially join the McCain team.

"Why the McCain Campaign Needs Bill Kristol," read the headline to Lowry's piece.

The temporary leave never happened; Kristol has remained at the paper throughout the campaign. But looking back, perhaps Lowry was being too logical in suggesting Kristol hit the pause button on the Times while he became intimately involved advising the GOP candidate. Because it appears Kristol may have benefited from the best of both worlds by keeping his high-profile Times gig while also helping steer the McCain team.

Of course, that kind of free-lance work would violate the Times' logical policy, which forbids journalists from advising politicians, even informally. (Columnists are supposed to comment on campaigns, not be part of them.) And previously, Kristol and the Times have both insisted the columnist has absolutely no hand in McCain's run.

But a recent report, which raises doubts about those denials, suggests Kristol was instrumental in lobbying for the McCain team to pick Sarah Palin as the GOP's vice-presidential candidate. That would explain Kristol's steadfast support of Palin in the face of so many conservative pundits expressing doubts about her.

One of those GOP-friendly pundits who recently tagged Palin as unqualified was Kristol's conservative colleague at the Times, columnist David Brooks. The twist however, was that Brooks did not broadcast his harshest Palin misgivings in his column. Instead, he expressed them during an exclusive media luncheon in New York City, just 72 hours after toasting Palin in the Times.

While journalists and luminaries dined at the elegant Le Cirque restaurant, Brooks, being interviewed onstage, announced Palin represented a "cancer" on the Republican Party and that she was "not even close" to being qualified for the office she's seeking.

Talk about burying the lead.

Because for somebody who gets paid a handsome salary to express his unvarnished opinion about politics in print, Brooks had done a stellar job keeping those bombshell revelations under wraps since Palin entered the race in late August.

Those recent incidents involving Kristol and Brooks are why the Times is facing something of a dilemma regarding its two conservative columnists. It appears that during the campaign season they haven't always been straight -- haven't been transparent -- with their readers. Instead, Kristol and Brooks appear to purposely use their columns to either camouflage their true feelings (for partisan reasons), or cloud their positions with conflicts of interest.

It's true that over the decades, The New York Times has employed a handful of columnists who enjoyed outsized influence within the Beltway and have, at times, left their big-foot impressions on the political landscape in a way most ordinary columnist could not, or would not.

But I get the feeling that most of the Times columnists today understand their job is to write what they actually think about current events while simultaneously staying out of the actual current events. For some reason, Kristol and Brooks have trouble adhering to that common-sense approach. And in the process they're devaluing the Times' op-ed page.

For instance, I cannot imagine discovering that liberal columnist Paul Krugman had been secretly advising the Obama campaign and worked diligently to make sure Sen. Joe Biden was picked as the Democratic running mate, the way Kristol reportedly did with McCain. And I can't picture the Times' Frank Rich writing column after column about Sen. Joe Biden's VP run and then showing up at a New York City media event to reveal grave misgivings about Biden; misgivings the columnist had never articulated before, the way Brooks did with Palin.

Bottom line: Do Kristol and Brooks understand the basic tenets of opinion journalism?

The question about Kristol's role in the McCain campaign refuses to go away. In 2007, McCain-friendly columnist Amanda Carpenter wrote that the GOP candidate himself, at a conservative-sponsored luncheon, name-dropped Kristol, who also edits The Weekly Standard, in response to a question about who the candidate regularly turned to for advice.

In February, right after Kristol joined the Times, McClatchy Newspapers reported that Kristol was part of McCain's "foreign policy team." Kristol denied the report, and his Times boss confirmed that as a columnist he would not be allowed to advise any candidate.

So how did the McClatchy reporter get the story wrong? Because McCain aides told the reporter that Kristol was an adviser.

And perhaps that's why the story persists to this day. In June, Newsweek reported, "McCain receives advice from several generations of Republican strategists ... [including] William Kristol."

And just as recently as last month, Fox News, which actually employs Kristol as an analyst, reported that "The top of McCain's team includes ... Bill Kristol" among "[i]nformal advisers."

And now comes the report from Scott Horton, writing for Tina Brown's new news website, The Daily Beast, that Kristol was deeply involved in the Palin pick and that behind the campaign scenes Kristol squared off against a Karl Rove-led group of advisers who were pushing Mitt Romney for the VP slot.

Wrote Horton:

[Kristol] has used his space as a New York Times columnist to tout [Palin's] candidacy repeatedly. But in the process Kristol has never bothered to disclose his role in the decision making process that led to the Palin pick. ... Bill Kristol, it seems, has much at stake in the Palin candidacy.

So the central question remains: Has Kristol, contrary to Times policy, been advising the McCain campaign? And if he feels that his advice has been ignored, is that why Kristol is lashing out at McCain in print?

Questions also swirl around Brooks and why, when covering the campaign, he writes columns that apparently don't reflect his true opinions; opinions that are much harsher toward the GOP than readers have been let on to know, and opinions that might do damage to the Republican ticket.

The Huffington Post's Rachel Sklar captured video of Brooks telling the Le Cirque crowd on October 6 that Palin's plainly anti-intellectual style "represents a fatal cancer to the Republican party." And that she's "not even close" to being qualified for the White House.

As Greg Mitchell noted at Editor & Publisher:

It may or may not surprise you to learn that Brooks has not written a word about why the selection of someone "not even close" to be being qualified for vice president by a 72-year-old cancer survivor might disqualify John McCain from Brooks' consideration for his support.

Indeed, if Brooks thought Palin's disdain for ideas represented a "cancer" on the GOP, why did it take six weeks for him to say so? And why hadn't he found space in his many Palin-related Times columns to make that point? And if Brooks thought Palin was without question unqualified to be vice president, why didn't he insert the same, unambiguous language from Le Cirque ("not even close") in one of his columns?

The archive shows that prior to Le Cirque, Brooks had been broadcasting a much different message about Palin. Appearing on PBS, Brooks called the Palin pick an "outstanding" one, politically. Following the October 2 vice presidential debate, the Times pundit announced on television that Palin had been "fluid" and "confident" and that Republicans would be "quite pleased" that she had "held her own" against Joe Biden. Specifically, Brooks noted Palin was not a "wonk" (but that was OK) and he thought her me-against-Washington mantra was quite effective.

The next morning in his Times column, Brooks was just as effusive in his praise. Read this passage see if you think Brooks was cheering Palin or condemning her style:

It took her about 15 seconds to define her persona -- the straight-talking mom from regular America -- and it was immediately clear that the night would be filled with tales of soccer moms, hockey moms, Joe Sixpacks, Main Streeters, "you betchas" and "darn rights." Somewhere in heaven Norman Rockwell is smiling.

For Brooks on that Friday in the Times, Palin represented a rising star of the GOP.

By Monday, he transformed her into a cancerous element within the party. He just forgot to inform Times readers about his flip-flop.

Note that in an almost comical display of Beltway chumminess, The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg, who interviewed Brooks during Le Cirque Q&A, rushed in to defend the Times columnist when word spread about his "cancer" comment. Dismissing the idea that Brooks hadn't been honest with his readers, Goldberg instead toasted Brooks and insisted he "is one of the rare columnists today who wrestles with himself constantly, and who lets the public watch him change his mind."

Of course, what Brooks has done this campaign season has been to actively shield the public from his true thoughts about Palin. But inside the Beltway's media elite club, where pundits from the Times and The Atlantic swap deep thoughts at Le Cirque, Brooks' double-talk about Palin passed for transparency.

It's true that on Friday, October 10, four days after his "cancer" comment, Brooks' Times column did raise more specific concerns about Palin and the danger her candidacy represented to the Republican Party.

Brooks wrote that, "No American politician plays the class-warfare card as constantly as Palin. Nobody so relentlessly divides the world between the 'normal Joe Sixpack American' and the coastal elite." He claimed that kind of politicking was causing the educated class to flee to Democrats.

Two quick points. First, Brooks' Friday column addressed how the GOP's creeping social class warfare (i.e. its disdain for educated voters), highlighted by Palin's approach, was costing Republicans votes. But that's not what prompted Brooks to call Palin a cancer four days earlier. At Le Cirque, Brooks specifically lamented the GOP's creeping anti-intellectualism (i.e. its disdain for ideas), which was highlighted by Palin's approach.

That means Brooks still has not shared with his readers why he thinks Palin represents a "cancer" on the party.

Second, aside from that disconnect, note that Brooks' tough Palin column appeared after he had been recorded discussing his apparently true feelings for the vice-presidential candidate.

Which raises the question: If Brooks' "cancer" comment hadn't been captured on Rachel Sklar's cell phone, would the columnist ever have copped to the idea that Palin's candidacy signaled real, long-term problems for the GOP?

The larger lesson may be that when reading a Brooks campaign column, Times subscribers really do need to ask themselves whether the dispatch reflects the writer's true opinion, or whether he's pulling his punches in order to help the RNC.

And when reading a Kristol campaign column, readers need to ask if he's acting as an opinion columnist or working more in a role as a quasi-campaign consultant.

Because right now, it's hard to tell with the both of them.

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    • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 12:11 pm ET)
         

      Regarding Bill Kristol, anyone listening to him or reading his columns would be hard pressed to find any clear distinction between his opinions and his campaign consulting schtick, they blur into one another and are often the same.  Not really sure why this would even raise an eyebrow for Boehlert.  He predicted Palin's nomination last summer, he pushed for it, and it happened.

      As for Brooks, he is a hypocrite.  Just look at his column today where he is whining about the big spending liberal days ahead should Obama get elected, however where was his outrage at Bush's drunken sailor-spending days over the last eight years?

      If either play dumb at The New York Times, it's not hard to see.

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      • Author by Max Credits (October 14, 2008 12:31 pm ET)
           

        Are you MMFA's Devil's Advocate?  Do they encourage you to argue for the sake of discussion?  Your points often are so minor that they need not be posted.

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        • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 12:36 pm ET)
             

          Feel free to skip right over them Victor, unless you are just craving some attention from me?

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          • Author by shoes89 (October 14, 2008 1:05 pm ET)
               

            Apparently:

            "The basic tenets of opinion journalism" = What Boehlert says they are.

            It doesn't get more condescending, judgmental, and pompous than that.

            Yuck.

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      • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 12:50 pm ET)
           

        Sorry meant to put this here instead of below...

         Not really sure why this would even raise an eyebrow for Boehlert.

        If either columnist were  advising the McCain campiagn in any way, you yourself don't see the jounalistic conflict of interest? Nevermind wonder why Boehlert does?

        Or are you just shrugging at it? I am confused.

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      • Author by xxxxx (October 17, 2008 8:04 am ET)
           

        << Not really sure why this would even raise an eyebrow for Boehlert. >>

        Because both Kristol and his employer insist, as this article makes clear, that he does not serve as a consultant ?

        Just a guess.

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    • Author by shaggles (October 14, 2008 12:25 pm ET)
         

      The Brooks contradiction doesn't surprise me. Most right wing columnists do little more than carry water for the republicans. At least when they're talking about their own guys (and hockey moms, you betcha.)  Kristol is in a whole other area though.  Directly advising a candidate is clearly against Times' policy but it's no surprise that he's intimately involved.  The Times should've done something about this long ago but I doubt they ever will.  Those 'liberal' bastards!

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    • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 12:44 pm ET)
         

       Not really sure why this would even raise an eyebrow for Boehlert.

      If either columnist were actually advising the McCain campiagn in any way, you yourself don't see the jounalistic conflict of interest? Nevermind wonder why Boehlert does?

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      • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 12:54 pm ET)
           

        Admitted partisan columnists may or may not be advising political campaigns, in some capacity, so?  They are paid to write their opinions, and their opinionated columns should be viewed in that context.  Whether they whisper something in some candidate's ears or not is not that big a deal to me, they probably are just reiterating what their columns say anyway.

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        • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 1:18 pm ET)
             

          OK, so you see the journalistic problems with Kristol's potential McCain advisory capacity, you just don't care. Got it.

          And secondly, you didnt read the article thoroughly- it said that Brooks' column was markedly more pro Palin than what he obviously felt in reality, and he pulled his punches in order to help the GOP. That's hardly reiteration. Do you see the issue there? Or do you not care about that either?

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          • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 1:24 pm ET)
               

            They are not independent journalists, so I don't hold them to the same standards.  I read the article and am fully aware of Brooks' hypocrisy, on Palin and the issue I mentioned above.

            As for their dual roles, as opinionators and advisors, I don't take their columns as anything more than slanted opinions, so I view them for what they are worth, which is not much.  Anymore than left wing columnists.

            They all have their agendas.

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            • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 1:32 pm ET)
                 

              Yes, but you said, you didn't see why it would "raise an eyebrow for Boehlert". Surely you can understand, even if YOU don't care about the conflicts of interest, why others would? Especially if the NYT has a standard strictly forbidding the practice?

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              • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 1:38 pm ET)
                   

                What is a conflict of interest between being an admitted rightwing op-ed columnist and advising rightwing politicians?  It's like you caught them with their hand in some cookie jar or something?  It's no surprise to me, nor to Boehlert I would imagine. 

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                • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 1:42 pm ET)
                     

                  The journalistic conflicts listed in the article. Are you being purposely obtuse? I know you understand what I am saying, and what the article is saying.

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                  • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 1:46 pm ET)
                       

                    Just because I don't agree with Boehlert's hand-wringing over this doesn't mean I am obtuse, thanks for your condescending little snarkiness.

                    We disagree.

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                    • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 1:53 pm ET)
                         

                      Forgive the snark. I just truly wonder why when you see that there is potentially a very clear issue with two journalists abusing their own stations at the widely read and well respected NYT, you would meh. This isn't Hannity or O'Reilly here, these are (supposedly) actual journalists who are supposed to follow ethical standards. They seem to not be.

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                      • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 1:55 pm ET)
                           

                        ALSO! To not hold them up to the same satndards because they are "opinion" journalists is also confusing to me. Wouldn't the standards apply to them EVEN MORE SO, so as to be absolutely sure of their honest opinion?

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                        • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 2:05 pm ET)
                             

                          When I read articles by straight news reporters I expect objectivity, honesty and a clear telling of the facts, without bias or opinion.  When I read Brooks or Kristol, their pieces are all slanted through their prism of rightwing partisanship, and I accept that for what it is.  I don't evaluate that for honesty or truthfulness, I read it to get their take on an issue, yes, it is a very different standard I apply to each.

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                          • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 2:35 pm ET)
                               

                            This shouldn't be a big deal whether or not YOU should think it is, it's because the TIMES should think it is.

                            It's not (fortunately) your own personal standard this article is concerned with. We are talking journalistic standards and practies that are in place in this country, and ones that the NYT supposedly adheres to.

                            These include objectivity and impartiality.

                            Again, so curious that you meh this all, given the journalistic standards, not your own standards, that are potentially being abused.

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                            • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 2:39 pm ET)
                                 

                              I am giving my opinion on Boehlert's article.  Since when do objectivity and impartiality have anything to do with op-ed pieces?  It makes me wonder whether you understand what they are at all.  Perhaps that is the crux of our disagreement here.  If you believe opinion pieces need to be vetted for impartiality or objectivity, you'd better read up on what their actual function is.

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                              • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 2:54 pm ET)
                                   

                                By objectivity, I mean "fairness".  Opinion journalists are still be obligated to what fairness is.

                                To apparently withhold an damning opinion as Brooks did, to seemingly pull punches for the GOP, isn't the way his platform as a journalist is to be used. 

                                And Kristol's potential McCain advisory capacity goes specifically against the Times own standards.

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                          • Author by mrhebert74 (October 14, 2008 4:52 pm ET)
                               

                            Not that I'm taking issue with what you expect, tommy, but I would expect right-wing writers to have a right-wing slant, just not a right-wing partisan slant. In other words, I would expect a conservative to say so when he has a beef with the more-conservative party, rather than sugarcoat it, contrary to his actual opinion, rather than writing the column that is "better for the party." I'd want his political philosophy, not his political allegiances, to drive his writing.

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                            • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 5:37 pm ET)
                                 

                              I have not idea what the difference is between a righwing slant and rightwing partisan slant, but in any event there are some conservative and liberal columnists who have the intellectual honesty to stick by their principles at the expense of whatever party they are more aligned with, and then there are some who are all about party over anything else.  These two, Kristol and Brooks, don't impress me, they never have. Very often they talk out of both sides of their mouth and their inconsistencies are evident.  Which is why I say this piece from Boehlert is just more of the same from these two pundits.

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                              • Author by lvmb123 (October 14, 2008 10:50 pm ET)
                                   

                                To some degree, I agree with tommy.  Anyone can look at the NY Times Op Ed page and know who stands where. 

                                To me, the problem is a little different.  David Brooks, writing one thing in his column and saying something else at a forum is being intellectually dishonest.  Personally, I have a problem with that, but aside from offending me because I just hate that kind of thing (not that I think they care), it makes him and the Times look foolish, I mean, did Brooks think he was making these statements in private? 

                                Kristol is a separate issue.  He is a dyed in the wool neocon partisan supporter.  This is fine so far as it goes, even if he is wrong and contradictory from one week to the next, but ultimately if he's violating the terms of his employment, that is up to the Times to sort out but they knew who they were getting when they hired him.

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            • Author by see it real (October 14, 2008 4:34 pm ET)
                 

              If Clarence Page, a revered African-American columnist for the Chicago Tribune, or Leonard Pitts, an African-American columnist for one of the Florida newspapers (can't remember which one), were writing pro-Obam columns and secretly advising Obama's campaign, would you and your fellow rightwingers be as dismissive of it as you are of the advice that both Brooks and Kristol are whispering to Liar McCain?

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              • Author by wesley (October 14, 2008 4:52 pm ET)
                   

                I can't speak for tommy...but I'll give you my answer.

                Would it matter to me if democrats were advising candidates while also writing opinion articles...nope, not one bit...

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    • Author by juliajayne (October 14, 2008 3:15 pm ET)
         

      Ah, vintage Tommy at work here. :-)

      The fact of the matter is that a liberal columnist at the NYT wouldn't be able to get away with this crap. That begs the very salient question of why Kristol and Brooks are able to? It doesn't matter that they identify as conservative columnists. What they're doing is obviously both a breach of any known journalistic standard and a clear conflict of interest, and it shouldn't be tolerated. Period. Especially for a paper that's supposed to be a so called standard bearer. Opinions are fine, but not this type of blatant chicanery.

      Shame on the NYT and anyone not getting the gist of why this is important.

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      • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 3:35 pm ET)
           

        I don't understand this whole conflict of interest argument.  Look, if the NY Times wants to fire them if they feel they are violating policy, then that is there business to do so.  But a conflict of interest arises when their duties conflict, what interests are being conflicted here?  Their columns are interested in promoting rightwing ideology and pushing the Republican's presidential nominee is certainly doing that, whether they write about it, or work behind the scenes in advising on strategy.  Those interests are not in conflict.  They are opinion writers, who have no interest in being impartial, or fair, or objective.

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        • Author by roundhouse (October 15, 2008 9:51 am ET)
             

          So you're OK with the NYT paying a salary to Kristol to distribute campaign talking points and narratives? You are OK with the times, in effect, paying the McCain campaign to use space on their pages? 

          Therein lies the conflict of interests. It amounts to the mother of all campaign contributions.

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          • Author by tommy (October 15, 2008 11:10 am ET)
               

            So you're OK with MSNBC paying a salary to Olbermann and Maddow to distribute campaign talking points and narratives?  You are OK with the Times, in effect, paying the Obama campaign to use up a two hour block of prime time cable every night?

            Please, partisans populate the media at every level, pushing one candidate or agenda all day long.  This is no different.

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            • Author by roundhouse (October 15, 2008 11:34 am ET)
                 

              Laughable and disingenuous. It is very different. They are not paid campaign advisors, like Kristol. And if you could care less as you claim, why even bring it up? You seem more interested in winning than being right. But whatevs.

              You have yourself given Maddow the compliment of being fairly balanced. As for the two of them combined, they are not advisors to Obama, they are not being paid by the campaign to advocate for Obama. That is the difference. Plain and simple, no nuance, no bs.

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              • Author by tommy (October 15, 2008 11:56 am ET)
                   

                I don't care whether they are paid advisors or not.  Do you really think the viewing public knows or cares either?  The point is both Kristol/Brooks and Olbermann/Maddow push their respective agendas in full campaign mode for their candidates, who the hell cares if they are formal advisors, informal advisors, or just propagandists?  There is no difference except in backroom titles, and that is meaningless to anyone watching or reading.

                I could care less who Olbermann advises or Kristol advises, they are both partisans and every word that comes out of their mouth is judged in that context, no matter who they work for.

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                • Author by Brabantio (October 15, 2008 12:21 pm ET)
                     

                  What a ridiculous shift of the argument.  What does the public knowledge have to do with it?  As if they don't know or care, therefore it's not actually a conflict of interest.  Maddow and Olbermann's agendas don't have any conflict with any other roles.  That makes a difference in what they do.

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    • Author by tbone (October 14, 2008 3:24 pm ET)
         

      Tommy's right to a point.  They are Op-Ed guys so they can say whatever they want.  If Kristol can be shown to be advising McCain he should be fired by the Times (if that violates their policy) and made to disclose this in each of his columns otherwise (so we know what we're getting).  If Brooks is in the tank for McCain/Palin in public while loathing them in private, then he's just a hypocrite and should be treated accordingly.

      Just shows that the Old Gray Lady is another part of the non-existent SCLM as Alterman has been pointing out for years.

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      • Author by watershed (October 14, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
           

        No, they can't say "whatever they want", and even they themselves would disagree with you. They should have opinons that actually correspond with their own beliefs, and shouldn't be shown to abuse the platform they have in order to further a particular party. That's advocacy journalism  and makes them advocacy journalists or propagandists.

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        • Author by tommy (October 14, 2008 3:37 pm ET)
             

          What, you don't think they are political advocacy propagandists?   Ah, yes they are, by very definition.

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        • Author by tbone (October 14, 2008 4:24 pm ET)
             

          Propaganda is just information or ideas that gets disseminated in advancing a cause or person.  The only distinction between an op-ed writer and a propagandist is that an op-ed writer has the obligation to be truthful.  They enhance their reputation as a journalist if they bring a measure of "objectivity", if not, then they're just a hack or "advocate" if you prefer.

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      • Author by xxxxx (October 17, 2008 8:11 am ET)
           

        Only they can't "say whatever they want." They can't, for example, make up lies and print them in their columns (though that doesn't seem to stop Maureen Dowd.) They can't write anything libelous. Their work should, at the most basic level, make logical sense . It doesn't, though, and Kristol, especially, just plows ahead being wrong and illogical on almost every issue, but it doesn't seem to give him pause.

        By the way, they are columnists, not "Op-Ed guys." A small distinction, but I think it matters here as they are not simply people contributing Op Ed pieces, but are NYT employees.

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    • Author by Timmee (October 14, 2008 5:03 pm ET)
         

      well....are there any tenets of "opinion journalism"?

      If so, what do you think they are and why is pointing them out pompous?

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    • Author by Gabe ORielly (October 14, 2008 8:07 pm ET)
         

      No, no, no!  In Bloody Bill's case, he IS dumb!  As dumb as a sack of hammers!  When has he ever been right?  It's Kristol clear that the man suffers from a rectal-cranial inversion.  If he were any dumber, he would need to be watered.  The amazing thing is that, given his propensity for idiocy, he is still given air-time.

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    • Author by cpinva (October 14, 2008 11:58 pm ET)
         

      it's not playing, if you really are dumb. brooks and kristol take stupid to a completely new level, and not in a good way.

      their columns make great bird cage lining. of course, even at that, they do leak a little.

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    • Author by historygeek001 (October 15, 2008 2:42 pm ET)
         

      Disgusting, but totally unsurprising.

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    • Author by murray_abraham6272 (October 16, 2008 5:38 am ET)
         

      Although I disagree with everything Bill Kristoll stands for, and am often at odds with David Brooks, I really don't see your point. As a matter of fact, this piece doesn't make any sense.

      Since when does opinion editing have any tenets? An Qp-Ed is just someone's opinion expressed at a given point in time in written form, and, opinions may change over time for all sorts of reasons, consciously or unconsciously.

      Take David Brooks' opinion on Obama. He was one of those who called Obama to run for President in the first place because  of the guys's communication skills, and his ability to surround himself with diverging opinions. This does not mean he agrees with all of Obama's views and he makes it known. In both cases he is just giving his opinion. Nothing less and nothing more.

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