Jonah Goldberg, a god-awful media critic
What happens when media monitors mangle journalism in ways far more severe than the work they're supposed to be appraising? What happens when press critics, instead of calling out newsroom missteps, simply propagate their own blunders in the name of analysis? When they weigh down their critiques with blatant misinformation?
It's a constant quandary when it comes to right-wing critiques of the press, which are typically filed by ideologues who, rather than trying to improve journalism, want to eradicate it, which pretty much sums up the painfully (purposefully?) unserious work done at Brent Bozell's NewsBusters outpost.
But the question becomes more problematic when those kinds of factually challenged critiques are embraced and presented by the mainstream media themselves. (Yes, it's ironic and sad that the traditional media often provide a forum for dishonest media criticism.) It's troubling when a phony, partisan attack on the press gets dressed up as a thoughtful examination and is hosted by one of the country's largest newspapers, the way Jonah Goldberg's anti-press piece was last week by USA Today.
Even for Goldberg, who makes his living casually smearing liberals as fascists, his USA Today media critique was an embarrassment. (For the paper as well as the writer.) It only highlighted what a mockery writers like him have made of the conservative media criticism genre. Poorly sourced and constructed around lazy, clichéd writing -- and in a couple of cases, outright falsehoods -- Goldberg's piece simply illustrated how, rather than illuminating shortfalls of the press, conservatives often just create more work for the rest of us. Because now I have to critique Goldberg's god-awful critique.
The headline for his misguided USA Today column read: "Day 15 of Obama's honeymoon: One doesn't have to break a sweat searching for examples of the news media's ongoing love affair with our president. In this, he is like FDR."
Immediately, I wondered how Goldberg would prop up his argument about Obama's supposed media honeymoon when there's already been so much Beltway chatter suggesting the opposite -- that Obama's press honeymoon has already been cut historically short. What evidence did Goldberg see that others ignored or had failed to detect? Because as a media critic myself, I understand that it's paramount to provide proof to back up your claims. And that if you don't, then you're simply peddling propaganda for political purposes. You're not making serious arguments, you're just clowning around.
Enter Goldberg.
Let's start with the column's first sentence: "Barack Obama and his supporters have been relentlessly comparing the new president to Franklin Roosevelt."
The new president has been "relentlessly" comparing himself to FDR? Note that Goldberg offered no evidence in his column -- no quotes, no nothing -- to back up that claim. I searched through Nexis and Google and couldn't find examples of Obama comparing himself to FDR. Have his supporters and some pundits made that comparison? Yes, some have. (It's often in the context of a new Democratic president inheriting an economic disaster from his Republican predecessor.) And Obama has occasionally quoted or evoked Roosevelt, as many Democratic presidents over the generations have. But Obama relentlessly comparing himself to FDR? No, there's simply no evidence of that, which meant Goldberg concocted the very first fact in his column, a column that was supposed to instruct us about how shoddy journalists do their jobs. (Trust us, the irony only became thicker as the column progressed.)
Next up, Goldberg unfurled his main point, which was that the press had been swooning over Obama and giving him a free pass, a romantic honeymoon. That the White House press corps resembled "a gaggle of aging love-struck groupies following Jon Bon Jovi around."
What's telling is that Goldberg's knee-jerk premise ran counter to some pretty obvious examples in the media recently. For instance, if the press were rooting for Obama, would journalists have falsely, and repeatedly, reported that the Democratic president's inauguration cost four times as much as the one held in 2005? Probably not. And if the press were gaga over Obama, would so many outlets have spent weeks irresponsibly hyping the Rod Blagojevich story, insinuating incessantly that somehow Obama and his close aides were knee-deep in the scandal and that it was damaging the new administration? I suspect not.
That's just my opinion regarding two completely phony stories the press recently used to beat up on Obama. But what about the facts on the ground inside the Beltway right now? How did Goldberg explain away the fact that in a column for the conservative Washington Times -- headlined "Obama press aide gets bashed in debut" -- reporter Joseph Curl wrote that the White House spokesman was "hammered" for an hour at the first Obama-era press briefing by reporters who "yelled," "shouted," and even "spat" questions? The combative back-and-forth "dispell[ed] the notion that journalists would go easy" on the new president, announced Curl.
And how did Goldberg explain similar headlines elsewhere, such as "Game On! Obama's Clash With The White House Press Corps" and "Obama flashes irritation in press room"?
Didn't those pretty much trample Goldberg's honeymoon angle? And if so, how did he deal with that impediment to his tired "liberal media bias" thesis? Simple. Goldberg, as conservative press critics and their editors tend to, just played dumb. Rather than being honest and acknowledging the rash of news reports that undermined his "honeymoon" argument, and rather than trying to explain how Curl and the right-wing Washington Times completely failed to spot the media swoon unfolding right inside the White House briefing room, Goldberg tightened his right-wing blinders and marched on.
And oh, what a march it was.
Now, remember. According to Goldberg and USA Today, the Obama-media honeymoon angle was a no-brainer; the "examples" were self-evident. So, of course, diligent media critic Goldberg simply stuffed his column with irrefutable, stone-cold examples of the news media's love affair, right? Not quite. Instead of facts or figures or even examples, readers got priceless nuggets like this:
There've been no standing ovations -- yet -- with Obama, but there's no denying that many in the news media are clapping on the inside.
Uh-oh. That was definitely not a good sign. Goldberg claimed it was impossible to miss the examples of obvious liberal bias, but already, up high in the piece, he concedes biased journalists are "clapping on the inside." We need to look into the souls of reporters to spot their shifty bias? But wasn't the headline quite clear: "One doesn't have to break a sweat searching for examples of the news media's ongoing love affair with our president"? Which was it? Were the examples obvious, or were they hidden "inside" reporters?
Oh, but wait. In the next paragraph, Goldberg made good on his promise and tagged an actual journalist, by name, as a prime media swooner:
Though no one's idea of an objective reporter, MSNBC's Chris Matthews does express the euphoria nicely. On The Tonight Show, he told Jay Leno that the Obamas "are really cool. They are Jack and Jackie Kennedy when you see them together. They are cool. And they're great looking, and they're cool and they're young, and they're -- everything seems to be great."
Thud! Keep in mind this was Goldberg's first/best example of a named journalist in a column that was supposed to document glaringly obvious media bias. Yet the first/best example was a guy nobody considers to be an objective reporter. And Goldberg quoted the non-reporter (Matthews) making comments to a comedian while appearing on a late-night talk show.
Ugh. I became discouraged and nervous that Goldberg might not provide any "examples" of the rampant bias plaguing the Beltway press corps. Nonetheless, I trudged on in search of some actual fact-based media criticism. Soon I found the section in which Goldberg recalled how President Bush became the butt of jokes back in 2005 when, following a press conference while traveling in China, the president was unable to find a door to exit through. Here's the famous photo from the moment:

Goldberg claimed the press "tittered at his buffoonery," and to prove his point about how nasty the press was, Goldberg included a link. But all the link did was lead readers to a YouTube video clip of Bush losing his battle with the locked door. Did the press mock Bush's run-in with the locked door? Readers didn't know for sure because Goldberg couldn't be bothered with providing any documentation. Instead, readers were just supposed to take his word for it.
But in the very next paragraph, Goldberg illustrated why taking him at his word represents a fool's errand. Continuing directly from his reference to Bush in China, Goldberg wrote:
Yet last week, when President Obama walked into an Oval Office window that he thought was a door, much of the news media looked the other way -- perhaps recognizing his genius at spotting where a door should have been.
Oh, my. It was getting gruesome. Why? Because Obama never walked into a White House window. Period. But Goldberg, writing as a (cough, cough) media critic, manufactured a claim in order to prove how soft the press has been on Obama, to prove how the press looks the other way when Obama does something goofy, just like Bush used to do goofy things.
But again, in this case, Obama didn't do what Goldberg claimed he did. Maybe that's why the press didn't make a big deal about it -- because it didn't happen. And maybe that shows how the press sometimes adheres to certain standards that Goldberg and his conservative cohort find to be so annoying.
Here's the background on the non-story about Obama and window: On January 28, the New York Daily News, for whatever reason, thought it was newsworthy that after less than 10 days in the White House, Obama still wasn't completely familiar with the sprawling complex. Fine, whatever. To illustrate its point, the Daily News reported:
It looks like President Obama hasn't gotten acquainted to his White House surroundings. On the way back to the Oval Office Tuesday, the President approached a paned window, instead of the actual door -- located a few feet to his right.
The key word? "Approached." Here's the photo the Daily News ran:

Obama never "walked into an Oval Office window," as Goldberg claimed. But for the right-wing media critic, suddenly scrounging around for examples of liberal media bias and the supposed Obama honeymoon, the anecdote worked better if it was embellished, if it was manufactured. So that's what he did. Goldberg made up a story in order to critique the press for its coverage of Obama. (Did we mention it got gruesome?)
Mercifully, Goldberg soon brought his hollow exercise to a close and ended with this beaut:
CNN's John King recently said "nobody disputes" that journalists are too enraptured by Obama's historic presidency; he seems to think it will wear off when the serious work of the nation kicks in.
Finally some meat on the bone, right? Slight problem: Goldberg only directly quoted two words from the CNN reporter ("nobody disputes") before using his own words to describe what King supposedly said. Considering the fact that Goldberg had just made up the claim about Obama having "walked into" a window, I'd want to double-check the King quote.
So I searched Nexis and Google and TVEyes. But I couldn't find anything even remotely close to matching what Goldberg claimed King had said about the press being enraptured by Obama. I even searched through the NewsBusters archives, where every imagined liberal media bias slight is documented by Bozell's army of overeager scorekeepers. But nothing about King claiming "nobody disputes" that journalists are too enraptured by Obama. And trust me, if King had said that, the people at NewsBusters would have posted it, sent out email alerts, and called their congressional representatives. It would have been a huge deal.
But even NewsBusters couldn't find King's "nobody disputes" quote. Only Goldberg had caught it. Who knows, maybe King said it "on the inside."
To recap: Goldberg's media critique began with an outright falsehood about Obama and FDR. Goldberg simply ignored scores of media reports (including one from the right-wing Washington Times) that suggested Obama's press honeymoon had been surprisingly brief. The first journalist Goldberg cited by name as being liberally biased was a TV personality who was "no one's idea of an objective reporter" and whose quote Goldberg culled from an appearance on a comedy show. Goldberg made up a story about Obama walking into a window and then criticized the press for not covering as news the story Goldberg concocted. And then Goldberg ended with a two-word quote from CNN's John King that only Goldberg seems to be familiar with.
And for the record, in a column supposedly brimming with "examples" of Obama's press honeymoon, I couldn't find a single one that withstood the slightest amount of scrutiny.
The painful lesson for USA Today? When you hire Jonah Goldberg to be a press critic, you get what you pay for.
UPDATE: Goldberg responded to my column. My rebuttal is here.





















Citing Jay Leno as evidence of liberal bias is especially bizarre. His monologues were simply packed with Clinton jokes during the 90's.
Leno still does a lot of Clinton infidelity jokes, even though he's been out of office 8 years.
Leno seems to be an "equal opportunity" commentator/comedian. Letterman, on the other hand..........
I would have put it exactly the other way, Oscar. Surprised? Dave goes after the Clintons and Gore pretty good. He's friends with Giuliani.
BTW, the opening SNL sketch this Saturday did feature Pelosi, but I missed the beginning, so I don't know if they used the million vs. thousand "gaffe."
Of course, it is even worse than that. During the 2000 elections, when Leno interviewed Bush, he allowed Bush's people to edit the video before broadcasting. Leno apparently also let Bush know ahead of time what the jokes were.
"Reporters" on Fox, including Billo, show clips of the TV show "24" for reasons why torture is an acceptable way of treating captured enemies. If Jack Bauer does it, then it must be OK.
There's a line from "Life's Been Good" that describes Goldberg perfectly-- "they say I'm lazy but it takes all my time..."
To me, the word that comes to mind for describing Goldberg's work is sophomoric.
... an insult to sophomores...
I agree. Golberg is better described as freshmanic.
Goldberg, of course. I hate laptops and their little chiclet keyboards. But then, I make typos no matter what sort of keyboard I use.
Boehlert was tagged as the country's worst media critic a few months back by a conservative. (I forget which one. I don't think it was Goldberg, though.)
Boehlert obviously is still smarting from this.
A pretty weak post by Boehlert, I must say.
Shoes,
Please say what was weak about the column and find examples of Obama "relentlessly comparing himself to FDR." Thanks in advance.
Goldberg- GOP Hack
umm, isn't it the conservatives that have been constantly comparing him to roosevelt, and saying roosevelt failed and that's why obama will too? goldberg wrote a column a couple months ago and compared the relative calm and prosperity of the coolidge administration with that of roosevelt's. except of course, there was another republican president in between, who left roosevelt with a 25 % unemployment rate. seems like all we have heard is the conservatives comparing roosevelt and obama. george will is always on the subject.
And in the same breath they will say that it was WWII, not the New Deal, that ended the depression.
Even if that's the case, it wasn't the war itself that revived our economy; it was the accelerated GOVERNMENT SPENDING.
So, when Republicans say that Government Spending never ended a recession or depression, they're full of crap.
And when they say anything else.
goldberg notes in this link that obama mentioned fdr in his news conference a couple nights ago. but obama simply said that there are people who do not believe the government should play any role in reviving the economy and that argument was settled by fdr.
no one gets mentioned more than saint ronnie, i watched a republican senator on meet the press last sunday saying that ronnie's tax cuts turned the economy around, a dubious claim at best. barney frank noted that not a single republican voted for clinton's tax increases on the wealthy and the economy took off in spite of the republican predictions of doom.
and as boehlert notes here, a lot of the fdr stuff is simply the press doing it. in this column, goldberg notes time magazine putting obama on it's cover in an fdr type setting. well, was that obama "relentlessly" doing that? no, that was time. why is this such a big deal anyway. it's mainly the republicans as i said who are making the obama roosevelt connection because they are trying to discredit both. but whatever roosevelt did and didn't do, he turned aroung the atrocious situation he was handed by the 1920s "let business do it's thing" mantra of the republicans.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTc0ZDM0MDg1NDIyNWQ5ZDFhMTcyNzhlYTI1YmE4Y2M=&w=MA==
and as far as chris matthews, just read this transcript from 2003 when bush landed on that aircraft carrier. matthews is in full man crush, talking about how bush "looks great in that military uniform", and bush's cowboy outfits. and that's just the start as he and ann coulter try to out gush each other over the manliness of bush.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200604270005
Eric - Great read, but you are waaaaay too nice in calling Goldberg a medic "critic".
He is serving one purpose and one purpose alone: he is embedded in a MSM outlet (USA Today) to push, push, push the right-wing theme of liberal media bias.
He is not "lazy" as you put it. He is being intentionally virulent and purposeful in making these claims. Since this is not actually journalism, sources and research do not apply here.
Incidentally, NPR had Goldberg on recently to talk about "bipartisanship" and the effect Limbaugh and his ilk (and, I would add, "Goldberg") have on political debate. The hosts didn't really bother to mention what a hack Goldberg is, asnd it was in the last five minutes of the program when they let a caller on to say what anyone who has read Goldberg knows - he's a rabid idealogue who isn't very smart or clever, but who insists on filling his column with "jokes" - a poor man's male Ann Coulter. The man has nothing to add to the political debate, but somehow in the last month he has been marketing himself as some sort of moderate (or at least, non-ideological) critic. Perhaps he knows his days of mocking and not coming up with any ideas of his own are numbered?
Nerzog,
Would you happen to have any documentation regarding your assertion?
Everyone has to have parents. However, even if you don't like Goldberg, he has been around a while and generally writes a pretty interesting column and is an interesting speaker.
If you ever read his book, "Liberal Fascism", you'll find he makes a very good case for modern liberalism being one of the descendants of fascism which itself, like communism, grew out of earlier socialism. You may not agree, but his book backs it up with voluminous references.
He may not be either your cup of tea or Boehlerts as a columnist, but he is more than you imply.
How about this particular piece? Boehlert's complaint isn't that he just doesn't like him, it's that his critique is baseless and factualy inaccurate. Does that sort of writing constitute "merit" in your world?
I have been critical of Boehlert in the pasat but Boehlert makes a good case in his review of this particular Goldberg column. I hope Goldberg will reply. I do enjoy watching pundits duke it out.
All in all, I do not judge a columnist on only one column, as they all slip up now and then, but the general impression I get over time if the columnist is accurate, writes well and is entertaining.
Goldberg has already replied (pretty damn fast too). Check out the link that MrSimmonsSr provided.
Brab,
Take a look at Goldberg's rebuttal to Boehlert cited below by MrSimmonsSr.
I only read it after I posted my reply above.
I read it.
"Kroft: Have you been reading anything about the Depression? Anything about FDR?"
Obama was asked about FDR, therefore he was comparing himself to FDR?
"Mr. Obama has implicitly invoked Roosevelt's approach to what was the worst financial crisis of the 20th century, saying he would enact the largest public-works program since the building of the federal highway system in the 1950s. And he has made clear (conceptually echoing Roosevelt) that his attention to the welfare of the citizenry would be inseparable from his attention to the health of the economy."
Huh? The situations are similar, so the approach to a solution will be similar. "Conceptually echoing Roosevelt" is not comparing himself to Roosevelt. And the 1950s? Wouldn't it be more of an invocation to cite something earlier, if it's a reference to the Great Depression?
"But while Obama is taking significant cues from Roosevelt..."
Again, emulating someone is not a comparison. That's just learning from history.
"...the effort comes amid a roiling debate among historians about whether the New Deal deserves its reputation as one of the great American success stories."
Goldberg is undermining his own point. He's claiming this is a "honeymoon", remember? Obama is supposedly getting bias in his favor. Saying that Roosevelt's actions may not have been so great negates any benefit to any implied comparison.
"With the economy being compared to the Great Depression, no surprise Barack Obama is being compared to FDR."
"With the economy being compared..." is key here. The situations are similar.
"For instance, he doesn’t like my use of Chris Matthews, the guy who hosts so much of MSNBC’s political coverage, including the inauguration, because — as I say in the piece — Matthews is nobody’s idea of an objective reporter. Right. My point exactly. Which is why he shouldn’t be used like one whenever MSNBC feels like it."
I thought his point was that the media was biased, which would apply more to people who are supposed to be objective.
"KING: Well, many people, especially on the right, have criticized our business, saying we've been too easy on Barack Obama, too soft on Barack Obama, too much caught up in the significant history. No one disputes that, but maybe not taking enough time to deal with his answers to the specific challenge."
I have to see the context there, because that last line doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "Not taking enough time to deal with his answers" is consistent with being "too easy on Barack Obama". It comes off as the "dispute" being the questioning of Obama. Nobody questions him, takes enough time to deal with his answers. That would be a continuation of the description of the criticism, not a declaration about the validity of the criticism.
I notice that the bit about the "walking into a window" was not defended.
Goldberg's <cough, cough> research methods.
Silly Nerzog. You had best be prepared the next time you broadcast an assertion like that in the bowells of the nation's 24,917th most popular website. I mean, come on, that's one rung away from the big leagues of USA Today's opinion column. If have any aspirations, you better step up your game.
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Which assertion? That his mother was a member of the Clinton witch hunt, or that Goldberg writes nonsense?
I think it's been pretty well established by now that Goldberg owes the state of his career to the Lewinsky Scandal, since he was vice-president of his mom's company at the time.
I've got to hand it to him, very few people can make 15 minutes of right-place-at-the-right-time fame stretch into a lucrative career:
"The fun part is my irrelevance," [Goldberg] says. He characterizes his ascent in purely capitalist terms. "I had information to barter," he explains, referring to the fact that he actually heard the Tripp tapes. "And when you have information to barter you become a clearinghouse for other information. People want to trade. At one point I had 12 reporters around the country calling me up, cultivating me as a source." As a result, Goldberg says he's made some friends."
Looks like you might need to brush up on your Google and Nexis search skills, my friend.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI4NzA1OWIwNDNlZjc0NGI2OWUyMjVmNDRhZjU1YzI=
Mr.Simmons,
Hahaha... looks like Mr. Boehlert has some egg on his face.
AA,
You might want to read Mr. Boehlert's piece again and then Mr. Goldberg's response a little more closely. Mr. Goldberg doesn't actually disprove anything Mr. Boehlert stated.
In fact, he proves that Mr. Boehlert was correct regarding John King's actual comments versus what Mr. Goldberg stated. As Brab also stated, you need to see the context. It was in response to Howard Kurtz commenting on the historical nature of Obama's Presidency during the Inauguration and that expectations have been jacked up by the media and that we will soon see a let down.
So, John King wasn't saying what Goldberg interpreted him to say. Howard Kurtz was saying that.
So, I'm not sure Bernie's helping himself with his response.
As for Bernie saying he easily found the quote, that's another lie, when I googled "john King" and "nobody disputes" many. many other statements came up. I had to add the rest of the sentence before I could find the transcript.
Skep, it's Jonah, not Bernie.
Here is the CNN transcript. I'm still not sure what King means, but I think it could be what Goldberg says he means.
At any rate, Goldberg's line "there's no denying that many in the news media are clapping on the inside" is such obvious hackery that I think even AA must recognize it as such.
i think the question also is the truth of what king and kurtz are saying. supposedly the proof of all this overly positive press given obama is represented by noting the historic nature of his taking office [something that's undeniable] and headlines such as "throngs brave the cold to greet obama's train". uh, yeah? i think some big crowds did turn out. that is bias towards obama how?
also i watched nbc nightly news this evening. one critic after another of the bank bailout bill announced today. no pro obama spin there.
to be clear, it was not a bill, but the strategy of the bank bailout.
Wow,
I know, what a dope, they are both right wing dirtbags, but in a different way.
Oh, I see. Since he occasionally mentions FDR, that means he's "relentlessly comparing himself to FDR".
I guess that also means that George Numbnuts Bush relentlessly compared himself to God.
Goldberg is still a hack.
Boehlert - looks like you're the LAZY one, Goldberg pretty much picks you apart at NRO. Apparently, either you didn't use Nexis/Lexis/Google/Newsmax, or you're too stupid to know how.
Since we ALL know Liberals are superior intellectually to the rest of us, I think you have an agenda. Imagine that, Media Matters having an agenda. LOL.
Goldberg puts "nobody disputes" in quotes instead of the correct "no one disputes" and Boehlert gets dumped on?
When you only cite two words from a source, you have to get them both right. Seriously.
And by the way, Goldberg's rebuttal didn't include any examples of media bias.
Eric,
You just got slammed by Goldberg over on the corner. Care to respond or are you still recovering from getting hit by reality?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZWI4NzA1OWIwNDNlZjc0NGI2OWUyMjVmNDRhZjU1YzI=
BTW, I can teach you how to use Nexis and Google if you want. I learned it as a freshman in college.
He cares to respond. Will Goldberg?
Nov 11 2008, from WNBC's Gabe Pressman (a 60 year NYC reporting veteran):
"Will FDR Inspire Obama? Obama calls for hope and courage like FDR," and "There is a striking similarity between the situation President-elect Obama faces and the crisis FDR confronted. And there are strong similarities between the personalities of these two leaders elected 75 years apart. Like Roosevelt, Obama is charismatic. He has a beguiling smile. His voice seduces listeners, just as Roosevelt's did."
From the Chicago Tribune, how about some of Obama's own words, days after the election:
"Want a glimpse into the future Barack Obama presidency? Take a look back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s first 100 days in the White House.
During his “60 Minutes” interview Sunday, the president-elect was asked if he had been reading anything about Roosevelt and the Depression.
Yes, he said. “There’s a new book out about FDR’s first 100 days. And what you see in FDR that I hope my team can emulate is not always getting it right, but projecting a sense of confidence and a willingness to try things and experiment in order to get people working again.”
From the International Herald Tribune, just after the election:
"Now the United States is about to get a new president who many people, including Charlie Peters, believe has the potential to be another Roosevelt. Like FDR, Barack Obama has shown an ability to inspire and instill hope, and he has also exhibited the keen intellect, canny political instincts and easy confidence that were hallmarks of Roosevelt."
And, how can we forget the Time Magazine hagiography.
Eric - this is 5 minutes of googling.
Before you throw stones at Goldberg in a fruitless attempt to justify your own and the national press corps slurping at Obama's feet, perhaps you could do some actual research, rather than feign it.
Tough losing an election isn't it? Wait till 2010.
You're such a dope. a) not a single one of those is OBAMA comparing himself to FDR. As Boelhert makes clear, he's only arguing with the OBAMA part of Goldberg's statement. b) the Chicago Tribune article you state clearly shows that Obama was ASKED DIRECTLY about FDR. Yes, that guy sure is arrogant to answer a question directly asked to him. Wasn't your guys' complaint during the election that Joe the Plumber was the only person able to get a clear answer out of Obama? c) almost all your examples are in Goldberg's rebuttal. But good job Googling all on your own...
Bird,
Which one of those quotes is from Obama comparing himself to FDR? None. In your logical mind, anyone who compares Obama to FDR=Obama comparing himself to FDR? Is that what you are going for here?
Looks like all three of Goldberg's fans have come to his defense.
It only took MrSimmonsSr link to smackdown Boehlert's assertion. But it is nice of you to go down with the ship. :-)
"Smackdown"? Not really. Goldberg is drawing a conclusion based on his own prejudices... he is assuming Obama's intent. I didn't see a link to a quote of Obama actually comparing himself to FDR, it's only his opinion that it's "obvious".
I do that kind of stuff all the time, but I admit that I'm a hack, and I don't get paid to write.
Splitting hairs? Maybe, but we all do it... even you.
Wow. You are way too forgiving. It's safe to assume Goldberg wrote his piece to persuade readers to his point of view. What moron uses invisible evidence and no sourcing, like EVER, to persuade? Nerzog, in your own response, you use evidence, an example and a quote -- you're already a better writer than Goldberg a million times over.
AA,
Find one instance where Obama is comparing himself to FDR, then find another, then another and you might have "relentless." Prove it, Goldberg couldn't.
Start putting goofy simley faces after all your statements too? That way AA will know you're only "joking".
Err. That first sentence should read as "Why don't you start putting goofy smiley faces after all your statements too? My bad. ;)
I think simley faces are much more fun.
Goldberg must pay them, I can't see anybody doing it for free.
I found the quote. John King said it as part of a segway into an interview that aired on CNN on 1/18/2009 where Howard Kurtz interviewed Dana Perino and Dee Dee Myers. Presumably, it seems as if Goldberg expected the press to hold Obama's feet to the fire 2 days before he was sworn in. I guess that's why Goldberg said "recently" because if he admitted that the quote was before Obama took office, the quote loses a lot of it's luster. After all, it's kind of hard to be critical of someone doing a job before they have even started. The funny thing is, King is not admitting anything with the quote, he is merely acknowledging the criticism. Goldberg makes is sound as if the media is truly in the bag for Obama. Here's the transcript, just so you right-wing nuts can see it too:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/18/sotu.01.html
Jonah Goldberg is America's #1 affirmative Action hire. That he is a columnist for various publications including the LA Times is the result of a right-wing handled payoff to his mother Lucienne Goldberg for her role in discovering, instigating and handling Linda Tripp during Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky situation. This is a payoff for his mothers part in trying to overthrow the government of the United States, not because Clinton violated and attempted to trash the Constitution i.e. Republican style treason but over sexual favors, a b.j. Having read or shall I say tried to read his columns in the LAT time and again it's clear that he's a buffoon and GOP tool.
Anyone else notice a lot of these comments are being flagged and removed? I have yet to see one that is offensive, at least compared to what other threads have allowed, but they are dropping like flies. You think maybe Goldberg's here getting his feelings hurt and flagging them himself?
Hi Mrs. T. I wasn't here today, so I missed whatever posts were dleted, but I have seen that phenomenon here before, the self-flagging to save face. Especially after this type of stuff, falling for the lies in the liars rebuttal, and having it explained that they've been suckered twice.
Always good for a laugh, to see that there is a point, even for those who consider Goldberg a legit commentator, at which even the zombies can be embarrassed.
Awesome, hysterical article! Dude, I don't think I'll ever stop laughing!
Maybe it is something about the name Goldberg. Jonah. Bernard. Seems neither one can properly quote a person or proper analyze the media.
1. goldberg is a tool. he is a blowhard and a fool
2. chris mathews is a biased guy. he is a liberal democrat. so what. he doesn't do news, its a talk show, just like olberman, hannity and o'reilly.
Mathews is perhaps a liberal, hard to say. He tends to develop man crushes. I'm remembering his strange drooling over W. in a flight suit. And his hatred stuff about certain democrats...
When you hire Jonah Goldberg, you get what you pay for indeed.
geez eric, picky, picky, picky! this is jonah goldberg, he doesn't need no stinkin' facts! he is a legume in his own mind.
You know that walking into a door business? It looks just like a door to me. I see nothing wrong with the photo. If it was Bush I would still see nothing wrong....except Bush never belonged in the White house.
I've written Jonah the Clown directly about several of his stupid columns. He's never ressponded, which is hardly surprising.
The last one was in September when he went on and on about Rev. Wright, failing to mention Palin being blessed by a minister who believes in witchcraft, sitting in the audience while the Jews for Jesuls made a presentation and has a minister who says all those that want to be saved should come to Alaska before the Rapture. Maybe Jonah somehow thinks he'll be saved even if he doesn't believe in Christ.
The biggest difference between Eric and Great Nazi-hunter Jonah is that Eric has a sense of humor.
Glad u reported on Jonah Goldberg. I always wondered how he came to be...?
Wasn't he the son of the woman who was friends with the woman who was friends with Monica with-or-without-the-kneepads Lewinsky? Didn't Jonah's mom have an antigue business and belonged to some right wing/group/cult, whatever?
So my final question how did he get this gig and what, if any, qualifications does he have as journo/historian/politoco insider?
And finally, let me tell you, as a poet, "clapping on the inside" doesn't work.