The right's super-secret plan to end all plans
Pssst. Hey, conservatives ... I want to let you in on a devious little plan being hatched by your leaders in the media.
It goes something like this: President Obama, the Democratic Congress, and the federal government are evil. They already have too much power and want to take even more control over your life. They're out to take away your guns, liberty, freedom, paycheck, and perhaps your mother's apple pie! Worse yet, now they want to count you. Have they no shame?
That's right. In Obama's unyielding quest to impose a socialist-fascist-communist-Marxist police state, the president is going to send his minions from ACORN to your door to count you for the decennial census.
And their solution to the president's pompous power grab? Sitting out the census.
Seriously.
Over the past few months, an increasing number of conservative media figures and news outlets have encouraged their audiences not to complete the 2010 U.S. census or expressed support for those who've decided to skip the count. Some have even stated that they wouldn't complete it, either -- even though the law requires respondents to complete it.
They often cite the participation of the community organization ACORN -- the right's bogeyman du jour -- in the recruitment of workers who will collect data as a reason to be wary, even frightened of the census.
Never one to skip an opportunity to put his special brand of crazy on full display, Fox News' Glenn Beck recently said of the census, "[T]here's a lot of people that are concerned with it because they don't want to fill it out. They're not comfortable with ACORN members coming to find out all this information." One can't be sure where Beck got such precise numbers -- "a lot of people" -- but it's a safe bet the U.S. Census Bureau won't be following his methodology. Later in the segment, Beck confessed that he's "considered not filling it out."
Over on Clear Channel's The War Room with Quinn & Rose, a caller stated that he, too, wouldn't fill out the census because of ACORN's involvement, prompting co-host Rose Tennent to Beck-ingly say, "ACORN being recruited by Obama for a mission -- that is so frightening," adding that "it scares me to think that these thugs are getting this information from us."
Then there's syndicated radio host and convicted Watergate felon G. Gordon Liddy -- a man who has acknowledged plotting, but not following through on, a few murders, kidnappings, and a bombing. He praised Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota for her refusal to complete the census, saying that "she's worried about the involvement of ACORN ... in next year's census. ... I hope that she refuses, and I hope that they charge her, and then I hope she takes ... that thing right up to the Supreme Court of the United States and gets this question resolved." You see, Liddy is no fan of government "intrusion." During the 1990s, he reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents.
All this ACORN paranoia from the right is pretty nutty, but it is hardly its only problem with the census.
On his radio show, Neal Boortz told a caller, "I received a census form the other day asking me a whole bunch of questions about my small business. I threw it in the trash. I'm not going to answer it. None of their damn business." He added that "the federal government and the state government, they have a legitimate reason for knowing how many people live where. ... [M]ost of the rest of the information is designed to help the government steal from you in order to pass off your property to the moochers. They're looters."
A sentiment apparently shared by former Bush administration speechwriter Meghan Clyne. She recently wrote that the census questions "forc[e] Americans to disclose sensitive information about their finances, health and lifestyles." While Clyne did let readers know that answering the census is mandatory, she went on to write, "The good news is that I called the help number on my form and a Census representative finally conceded that the government was unlikely to pursue punishment if I didn't respond, saying it would be 'a waste of time and money.' " Apparently, Clyne doesn't mind if folks break the law, so long as the law isn't likely to be enforced.
I suppose this would a good time to let conservatives know why their war against the census is both politically naïve and tremendously foolish.
Those detailed questions that seem to be causing conservatives such heartburn? They help determine where federal money is best spent. The U.S. Census Bureau notes, for example, that "long-term care providers and community planners use information about disability to help them decide where to locate services and facilities." It would be a shame if conservatives actually listened to the right-wing chattering class, skipped the census, and missed out on badly needed public service projects.
Of a more pressing concern to political junkies: The census helps determine population shifts throughout the country that inform the redistricting of congressional seats and truly impacts the balance of power in Washington. So, if conservatives aren't counted, they could lose seats in Congress -- something a high school government student would likely know.
If the right wants a path back to power, it might first consider putting an end to this fool's errand, lest it cut off its nose to spite its face.
Karl Frisch is a senior fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog and research and information center based in Washington, D.C. Frisch also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email.


















These guys-- they just don't care, eh?
Again, when was this? The 2010 Census doesn't go out until NEXT YEAR! So, what questions are they talking about? They're lying, obviously, about these forms they say they are receiving.
Olbermann-- where are you on this?? -- these guys are lying!!
So no, it's not just compiling addresses. There is active census-taking going on.
i would urge all conservatives to NOT complete their census form. the results are used, among other things, to allocate congressional house seats among the states, based on population. the lower the population, per the census, in the "red" states, the fewer members of the house of representatives those states have.
works for me!
How it will effect them if they refuse to participate.
Do these numbskulls even know how it will effect their districts and how it will cut services?
Do they even possess any common sense???
Freaking paranoid ignorant cult, that's who's working the pedals on the GOP crazymobile these days. I couldn't be happier about it.
What is wrong with these people?
http://samsedershow.com/node/1836
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Some wording has changed ("Insiders" is now "The Elite" for instance), but the conspiracy rhetoric hasn't. Since Republicans seem to basically have joined this paranoid crowd (as seen by their refusal to take a Census), I think we can now safely say that they are now the Party of Paranoia.
What question? The census has been in the constitution since 1789. There are some questions about methodology, but there's no question that the census has to be completed.
"[M]ost of the rest of the information is designed to help the government steal from you in order to pass off your property to the moochers. They're looters."
Moochers and looters? Well, someone's read up on his Ayn Rand.
Seeing all this unadulterated nonsense makes me all the more glad that I taught my Statistics class about how the census is performed. Maybe I inoculated a few of them.
The real rules , unlike being greatly inflated in the media is that if you refuse to answer the census: $100 fine. If you lie on the census: $500 fine. If a pollster uses your information improperly: $5000 fine and possibly jail time. I have seen several media reports saying 'you can be fined up to $5000 and jail time for not answering the census' in an effort to make people scared into that might not want to divulge this information.
Bachman is telling people not to answer the census. If just 2,000 people from her district do this, she may lose her seat due to redistricting. I hope people in her district follow her advice.
The Girls from Brazil, the result of a genetic experiment gone incredibly right(wing)?
ACORN taking the Census??? That was a lie intended to further smear the organization and perpetuate the lie about ACORN from the campaign.
Factcheck.org published a good article about this last week.
It would be interesting to see how many of these same people had no problem supporting the bush administrations wiretapping program.
The left/right paradigm needs to be destroyed and for us to move forward.
There are plenty of people on MSNBC (chris matthews,the morning joe staff esp.willie geist), Fox (beck,bill O), CNN (wolf blitzer)that spew nothing but 1/2 truths and bogus claims. My list here did not include all but just an example.
Remember Obama promised no tax increases for people making under 250k. Well Cap and Trade and his healthcare policy will prove him to be a liar. Just as W promised that we would not be a nation builder because the world does not like that..well W lied about that..
SEE! its not the right, the left..they are the same.
WAKE UP PLEASE!!
Come on now sheeple..
December 2008 - Local Census Offices begin to open in Maryland
Spring 2009 - Address canvassing to verify the mailing list for census questionnaires
Fall 2009 - MDP reviews feedback on address canvassing
March 2010 - Census forms mailed to households, special populations (nursing homes, correctional institutions, college dormitories
April 1, 2010 - Census Day
December 31, 2010 - Apportionment counts for Congressional seats by State delivered to the President
April 1, 2011 -- Redistricting data delivered to the states for redrawing Congressional & Legislative districts
Oh My Gosh. I don't see anywhere in there where they have already mailed any census forms. Although, they are in the process of verifying addresses. That must be what they are talking about.
Geez, must be "much todo about nothing".
Of coarse we have nothing to fear... I mean our info is protected... Right.... at .37 per card maybe to DNC would like the info or... maybe they should get a discount.....after all they fund Acorn with our money ....
Factcheck.org has debunked that Lie...
ACORN is one of over 100,000 groups that will be helping to bring awareness of the upcoming Census. In the 2000 Census there were an estimated 146,000 groups.
And Bachmann is flat wrong about ACORN going door-to-door and gathering data. Being "partners" with the Census Bureau doesn't entail as close a relationship as one might think. For the most part it involves getting the word out that it's important for everyone to participate in the decennial event that helps determine where federal money goes and how House of Representatives district boundaries are redrawn.
Here is a quote from Republican Senator Locke: Locke, April 23, 2009: [T]he Census will not be hiring anyone from ACORN. We use these so-called partners to get the word out and to spread the word about the need for people to respond and answer the questionnaires. ...We control the hiring. We do not use any government funds to subcontract with any organization to do any activity. ...We are not delegating anything to ACORN.
To base an entire major political party on anti-government and anti-intellectualism is simply amazing. How do these people (Beck, Limbaugh, etc.) not see the harm they are doing to their own country and its people by spreading this pure ignorance?
What happened to "Give me Liberty or give me death" we need everyone to call or write President Obama and Congress and tell him to return our rights, it is hard to give up power once they have it and I'm wondering if we will ever get out rights back. How could Congress just let this happen? Why did they not stop it, the executive branch was taking the power of Congress and giving it to the executive branch and Congress said nothing.
Would it be reasonable to suggest that work on the questionaire began some time ago? Such as during the previous administration?
Would this then make the evil questions a part of an evil republican plot?
Also, I thought I'd read that ACORN was not going to participate in taking the census this time.
Would it be reasonable to suggest that work on the questionaire began some time ago? Such as during the previous administration?
Would this then make the evil questions a part of an evil republican plot?
Also, I thought I'd read that ACORN was not going to participate in taking the census this time.
Do the 5 seconds of research it took me to find http://2010.census.gov/2010census/pd..._Info_Copy.pdf... yes, that's right folks an actual 2010 Census Form in PDF form. Even had a help-line number and everything!
And for Neil Boortz.. Here is the 2008 Business and Professional Classification Reort: http://javascript:loadNew('http:...f&bId=46')
And here is a site referenceing the 2009 Economic Census for Business Frame: http://www.stat.go.jp/english/data/e...009/gaiyou.htm
It is simply AMAZING what hoops leftists will go through to push their agenda. 5 minutes... 5 MINUTES to find out this info off Google and does Media Matters bother to do this? Nope.
"It is simply AMAZING what hoops leftists will go through to push their agenda. 5 minutes... 5 MINUTES to find out this info off Google and does Media Matters bother to do this? Nope."
Find what info and do what?
As a recovered Republican who is now an independent it is truly remarkable to watch. It goes back and forth between scary and sad to annoying and anger.
Once again, where are the adults in this party? What do we think the US government is up to by conducting the census? We were fine with illegal wiretaps and indefinite detention, but we draw the line at the frickin' CENSUS?! Where does this party go next? Part of me is angry and scared to see where it goes, but I have to admit there is a part of me that is dying to see where the crazies go from here to one-up their madness.
I still cant get past why the left was so intent on taking her out that they made it personal, almost vindictive. I have to believe they feared her on some level. Maybe the way she excited the base.
If she were smart, she should run for a congressional seat. I don't want to see her make a presidential run. If she thought her personal life was a glass house now then...
Clearly, there is something more under the surface here than what we have been told so far. I really could not care less what it is, but it is time for all you right-wingers to make a mea culpa and admit that it would have been a mistake to have elected her vice-president. She was obviously not up to the job.
Obama doesn't move to kill WWTaps
More on the Expansion
Keith Olby tells you ALL about it!
So now will we have ANY admittance that the WWT worked and Pres Bush was right on this or will we have a push now to go after Obama like they went after Bush on this forum? I have noticed as I present the facts to folks that aren't paying attention to this, that this little topic has quietly tucked its tail between its legs and crawled under the porch!
I think if you read any progressive or liberal sites you will see that Obama is being attacked very strongly from the left. On gays in the military, on secrecy, and on supporting some of the most egregious of Bush's newly created executive powers.
This is why you do not let any president at any time create new powers for himself. Because they will never relinquish it. This is the mess that has been made by the man you elected twice. And shame on Obama for continuing it. It is truly un-American. So, you are now supporting Obama? Or are you just a partisan hack?