How Time magazine enables Glenn Beck's lies
Four years ago, Time magazine devoted its cover story to a puff-piece profile of Ann Coulter, the right-wing ideologue best known for serial lies and wishing death upon those she disagrees with (journalists included). Only, Time forgot about the lies and the bloodlust and portrayed Coulter in a remarkably kind light.
Now, it's Glenn Beck's turn.
In its new issue, Time features a cover profile of the Fox demagogue, written by David Von Drehle -- a profile that downplays or ignores Beck's defining qualities, draws false equivalencies between liberals and conservatives, portrays obvious lies as simple differences of perspective, and omits Beck's most shocking and outrageous statements.
In the opening paragraph, Time describes last weekend's Beck-organized, right-wing temper tantrum in Washington, in which conservative activists got together to air a disparate array of sometimes contradictory grievances. Here's how it dealt with the size of the crowd, right in the first paragraph:
If you get your information from liberal sources, the crowd numbered about 70,000, many of them greedy racists. If you get your information from conservative sources, the crowd was hundreds of thousands strong, perhaps as many as a million, and the tenor was peaceful and patriotic.
But here's what Time left out: Those conservative sources are flat-out lying.
Progressive media critics often point out that the media too frequently take a "he-said/she-said" approach to politics that boils down to, "Is the Earth flat or spherical? Opinions differ." That may seem like an exaggeration, but Time's handling of the crowd size dispute is virtually indistinguishable from that caricature.
Actually, in some ways, it's less honest than the caricature. See, the 70,000 estimate didn't come from "liberal sources"; it came from sane sources, such as the Washington, D.C., Fire Department. Time portrayed the disparate estimates as equally-likely-to-be-true products of ideological observers. In fact, the large estimates from conservatives were clearly false, and the lower, accurate estimates came from official, nonpartisan observers -- and even from some conservatives like Beck's colleagues at Fox News.
And the estimates of "as many as a million"? True, they came from conservatives (actually, some conservatives put the crowd size at the 2 million mark. Time has downplayed the dishonesty displayed by one of the very conservatives it later references.) But, more accurately, they came from dishonest conservatives who were lying, lying about how many people were there, lying about where the estimates came from. Lying.
Look: The difference between 70,000 people on the National Mall for a protest and 2 million is huge. Seventy thousand people is a good-sized crowd. It's nothing to be ashamed of. It's almost as many as the 85,000 people who attended last Saturday's college football game in Lincoln, Nebraska. But 2 million people? There probably weren't 2 million people in the entire state of Nebraska (population: 1.8 million) last Saturday.
Houston, Texas, is the fourth-largest city in America, with just over 2 million residents. Do you know what happens when you drop the population of Houston, Texas, in the middle of Washington, D.C.? Hotels for miles and miles around are booked far in advance. The Metro system is stretched to the breaking point. Thousands of people get trapped in tunnels. It is, in short, unmistakably different from what happens when Missouri plays Bowling Green.
I dwell on this because the difference between 70,000 and 2 million people is simply not something about which reasonable people of honest motives can disagree. It is not something that can be an innocent mistake. Dishonest people who wanted to misinform you told lies in order to exaggerate the crowd size. There really can be no doubt about that.
But Time not only won't make clear that they are lying, it won't even tell you that they were wrong. Thus, the magazine makes clear right up front that this article is not "journalism"; it is a pathetic attempt to pander to malicious liars.
Here, look at Time's next paragraph:
At any rate, what we can say with confidence is that Deanna Frankowski was there. A cheery woman of 49 from Leeds, Ala., Frankowski said she had come to Washington as part of a group of 100 or more protesters. They filled two buses.
Well, no. What we can say with confidence is that nowhere near 2 million, or 1 million, or 500,000 people were there, and anyone who says otherwise is either lying or has fallen prey to those who are lying. One of many ways we know this is the case is that if it took two buses to get 100 protesters into the city, it would take 40,000 buses to get 2 million there. Anyone see any evidence of 40,000 buses (or their plane, train, and automobile equivalents) last weekend? Yeah, I didn't think so.
Time continued:
The old American mind-set that Richard Hofstadter famously called "the paranoid style" - the sense that Masons or the railroads or the Pope or the guys in black helicopters are in league to destroy the country - is aflame again, fanned from both right and left. Between the liberal fantasies about Brownshirts at town halls and the conservative concoctions of brainwashed children goose-stepping to school, you'd think the Palm in Washington had been replaced with a Munich beer hall.
What in the world is Time talking about? This is a grotesque false equivalence. Conservatives have been yelling about President Obama being a secret Kenyan bent on sending granny to the Death Panel, comparing him to Hitler and Mao and Stalin and who-knows-who-else -- and that, apparently, is matched in intensity and paranoia by liberals pointing out this unhinged behavior? Insane.
Eventually, Time got to its point: Glenn Beck. But even there, Time buried the lede. No, that's not quite right. Actually, Time completely omitted the lede.
See, Glenn Beck's defining characteristic is that he's deeply dishonest. He claimed that 1.7 million people stormed the National Mall last week to protest Obama. And that's just one example; Beck tells lies of such size and obviousness, and with such frequency, that to fail to make his dishonesty clear right up front is, itself, dishonest. But Time didn't even hint at it in its introduction of Beck:
Glenn Beck: the pudgy, buzz-cut, weeping phenomenon of radio, TV and books. ... Beck is 45, tireless, funny, self-deprecating, a recovering alcoholic, a convert to Mormonism, a libertarian and living with ADHD.
Indeed, the closest the Time article ever came -- ever -- to indicating that Beck tells lies and spreads falsehoods is this whopper of an understatement: "[H]e also spins yarns of less substance." Oh, snap! That really exposes him for the fraud that he is!
Instead, Time suggested Beck's rants are reality-based [emphasis added]:
Beck mines the timeless theme of the corrupt Them thwarting a virtuous Us. This flexible narrative often contains genuinely uncomfortable truths. Some days "they" are the unconfirmed policy "czars" whom Beck fears Obama is using to subvert constitutional government - and he has some radical-sounding sound bites to back it up. Some days "they" are the network of leftist community organizers known as ACORN - and his indictment of the group is looking stronger every day.
Well, not every day. See, on Tuesday, Beck aired a video of an ACORN worker saying she had killed her ex-husband and then went on a prolonged rant about ACORN employing someone who was guilty of "premeditated murder." Turns out that wasn't quite true. She didn't murder her ex-husband. Nobody murdered her ex-husband. Her ex-husbands are quite alive and well.
That's typical Beck: He rushes to make sensational allegations based on the thinnest of evidence, without bothering to check it out. It's behavior that careens from reckless to dishonest, and it's his calling card. But, to Time, Beck's treatment of ACORN is something to be applauded. It's looking stronger every day (as long as you ignore the fact that he just aired a bogus video in order to falsely suggest an ACORN worker is a murderer)!
It isn't just Beck's dishonesty that got left on the cutting-room floor. It's the extent of his offensiveness. Take a look at Time's portrayal of Beck's emotional recollection of the September 11 terrorist attacks:
On the recent anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, Beck grew afraid that Americans may no longer be the sort of people who cross mountain ranges in covered wagons and toss hot rivets around in bold bursts of skyscraper-building. Tears came to his eyes (they often do) as he voiced this last fear. But then he remembered that the fiber of ordinary Americans is the one thing Glenn Beck need never fear. So he squared his quivering chin to the camera and held up a snapshot of ground zero, still empty eight long years after the World Trade Center was destroyed.
It goes on like that for a while. But one thing Time didn't mention? This famous Glenn Beck statement: "You know it took me about a year to start hating the 9-11 victims' families? Took me about a year."
Seems like if you're going to devote two full paragraphs to Glenn Beck's tearful remembrance of September 11, maybe you should note the contempt -- hatred, even -- he has expressed for the families of the people who died that day. Doesn't it?
Nor did Time mention Beck's 2001 statement that he'd like to "beat" Rep. Charlie Rangel "to death with a shovel"; his comments about poisoning Nancy Pelosi; his comparison of the Holocaust museum shooter to Thomas Jefferson; this little outburst; or his comparisons of Obama to Adolf Hitler. Let's stop there for a second and go back to Time's opening lines:
On Sept. 12, a large crowd gathered in Washington to protest ... what? The goals of Congress and the Obama Administration, mainly - the cost, the scale, the perceived leftist intent. The crowd's agenda was wide-ranging, so it's hard to be more specific. "End the Fed," a sign read. A schoolboy's placard denounced "Obama's Nazi Youth Militia." Another poster declared, "We the People for Capitalism Not Socialism."
Gee, where did that "Obama's Nazi Youth Militia" garbage come from? It came from Glenn Beck. But Time won't tell you that.
After whitewashing Beck's dishonesty and borderline-obscene behavior for a while, the magazine returned to the crowd estimates:
We're in a flood stage, and who's to blame? The answer is like the estimates of the size of the crowd in Washington: Whom do you trust? Either the corrupt, communist-loving traitors on the left are causing this, or it's the racist, greedy warmongers on the right, or maybe the dishonest, incompetent, conniving media, which refuse to tell the truth about whomever you personally happen to despise.
At this point, you have to wonder if the article was some kind of performance art, designed to prove the very skepticism about the media it seems to lament. See, this very Time article was the product of a "dishonest, incompetent, conniving media, which refuse to tell the truth." And not because I happen to despise Glenn Beck, but because there simply were not 1.7 million people at last week's protest. Because Time damn well knows there were not 1.7 million people at last week's protest. And because Time refused to say there were not 1.7 million people there. Not only that -- Time also insisted on pretending that only "liberal sources" say there were 70,000 people there, when, in fact, the D.C. Fire Department said there were 70,000 people. That's a dishonest and incompetent refusal to tell the truth. Actually, it's worse than a refusal to tell the truth: It's a dishonest and incompetent false claim.
At the beginning of his article, Von Drehle referred to a recent poll that found "record-low levels of public trust of the mainstream media." Guess what? Articles like this are why nobody trusts the media. When you pretend that obviously false claims about crowd sizes are valid, people won't trust you. When you pretend that only liberals say 70,000 people actually attended last week's protest, people won't trust you. They shouldn't trust you. You aren't trustworthy. You are doing your job dishonestly and incompetently.
And that dishonesty, that incompetence, is what enables Glenn Beck. When Glenn Beck says 1.7 million people were at the protest, and the Washington, D.C., Fire Department says 70,000, and Time runs an article saying conservatives and liberals disagree about the crowd size, that enables Glenn Beck's lies.
No wonder Beck liked the article so much.
Jamison Foser is a Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog and research and information center based in Washington, D.C. Foser also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email.
















This is a flat out lie, and dishonest in every redard. And here is what MMFA will never admit, and never acknowledge. A very few conservatives have compared Obama to Hitler, and a very few think he is trying to kill grandma. To make the implication that all conservatives, or even most feel this way is what will always keep MMFA a fringe far left outfit reporting on those in the fringe far right.
MMFA will never accept that you can oppose the policies Obama stands for, and not be a racist or think Obama is Hitler.
If MMFA were able to remove Hitler from the English language, a good number of MMFA posters, snoopy, the Col, Harely...(or Dr. Matt as he likes to call himself now) WZ, vhw, Easy to refute, etc etc would never be able to post again.
60 major advertisers have left Beck's show. That is not a "boycott". They have fled the scene-probably forever.
58 percent of GOP not sure/doubt Obama born in US
Shocker poll from Kos/Research2000 today.
A whopping 58 percent of Republicans either think Barack Obama wasn't born in the US (28 percent) or aren't sure (30 percent). A mere 42 percent think he was.
That means a majority of Republicans polled either don't know about -- or don't believe the seemingly incontrovertible evidence Obama's camp has presented over and over and over that he was born in Hawaii in '61.
It also explains why Republicans, including Roy Blunt, are playing footsie with the Birther fringe.
Surprise, surprise: Birther sentiment was strongest in the South and among the 60-plus crowd - presumably because seniors can't log on to the Internet and rely on rumor, word of mouth and right-wing talk radio.
When do we start a serious dialog about the Birther movement being a proxy for racism that is unacceptable to articulate in more direct terms?
In all 77 percent of Americans overall think the president is actually an American.
Research 2000 for Daily Kos. 7/27-30. All adults. MoE 2% (No trend lines)
Do you believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States of America or not?
Yes 77
No 11
Not sure 12
How do those numbers break down?
Yes No Not sure
Dem 93 4 3
Rep 42 28 30
Ind 83 8 9
Northeast 93 4 3
South 47 23 30
Midwest 90 6 4
West 87 7 6
18-29 88 4 8
30-44 72 14 14
45-59 82 8 10
60+ 69 17 14
By Glenn Thrush 08:14 AM
DailyKos did not perform that poll. They did not make all of the phone calls, do the math themselves, etc. They hired the nonpartisan Research 2000 to do so. I know it's hard for a hack such as yourself to wrap your mind around this, but just because your side is completely incapable of ever doing anything without the taint of ideology and partisanship does not mean the left suffers the same affliction.
We actually care about things like the truth, results and the like. We don't worry about shopping around for polls like Rasmussen to prop up our desperate senses of self.
"First of all, I reject the idea that the "birther" campaign is motivated by racism. There may be racism among it, but there are legitimate questions about the documentation of Obama's birth certificate. I'm sorry, I've been following this closely from the start. To assume that all those signs about the birth controversy were motivated by racism, that is simply wrong. "
You know, the one who has referred of the President many times as Hitler, nazi, fascist, etc..
Your little tirade is as phony as the Time Magazine article.
while I hope it is true that the "majority" of conservatives do not feel that way, I must admit to not seeing alot of evidence to back up your claim. I will admit, I am going by what I see in various media (TV, radio, newsprint, etc.) but it would seem a large number of people do express beliefs along those lines, more importantly, the leaders of the "conservative movement" do as well. however, since you disagree with me about that, who would you consider to be "the voice of conservatism"? who speaks to so called conservative values and yet avoids making attacks of that nature? one who has a national platform from which to spread their message?
So, pointless, you're accusing MMFA of using a broad brush in attacking conservatives, but you're doing precisely the same thing when you say our party attacked Bush. You didn't say everyone in our party, and MMFA didn't say all conservatives. Same thing.
Congrats, you get to wear the scarlet letter--a great big "H".
1. ACORN caused a global finacial meltdown
2. George Soros controls the world.
3. Democrats complete rely on a radical dead for decades for all their political strategy.
4. Democrats want the population to be in miserable poverty so they can be controlled and enslaved.
5. Death panels
6. Gay marriage will end the institution of marriage.
7. The news media is in on it.
8. If we don't spend $600 billion a year on the military we'll be taken over by some unnamed enemy.
9. Obama is secretly a communist and was raised by communists to be a communist.
Nearly all Republicans believe this insanity.
2. George Soros controls parts of the left-wing media and you are all his pawns.
3. Both sides use Alinsky tactics. Liberal progressives perfected the technique.
4. Some liberals not democrats. In fact, many liberals do want to enslave people as evidenced by the big arm of government they support. More government rarely equals more freedom and usually leads to enslavery.
5. What does rationing equal??
6. The government should have no role in marriage in the first place. Straight or gay. Civil unions for all.
7. NBC is in on it. GE stands to make billions of dollars if the left's policies are passed. Major conflict of interest.
8. The common defense is one of the few things required in the Constitution for the government to sustain. A strong DEFENSIVE military is key to our survival. An aggresive military is not.
9. Obama has a shady past compared to most former presidents. I don't know if it is communist, but there are some shady characters back there.
Just one conservatives opinion in each of the points you outlined. Are my rebuttals crazy compared to what was and is said about President Bush?
Saying "Conservatives believe...." doesn't mean that all Conservatives believe that.
It means 'Conservatives' versus 'Liberals' or 'Independents'. It doesn't mean "all" Conservatives.
Jamison is talking about the false equivalency argument that Time Magazine tried to make, and he was making the point that it was "Conservatives" who had been doing outrageous things, not Liberals. But he never wrote, nor ever meant, that all Conservatives believe that.
And don't you dare blame this on Jamison. The context is clear - you simply had a knee-jerk reaction to a sentence taken out of context.
I'll keep this in mind the next time I see a generalization lobbed at liberals, namely from you.
Since you so oppose having that mindset attributed to all conservatives, you have a chance to contribute a one-person example of how untrue the myth of conservative radicalism really is.
Do you personally believe that Barack Obama was born in Kenya?
Do you maintain that he is comparable to a Nazi?
Do you think he is going to institute death camps?
More generally, is Barack Obama the legitimate President of the United States?
One person at a time, you and your friends can help tear down the prejudiced idea of conservative fanaticism which you so much dislike. This moment, here and now, you can begin to displace that radical image of the conservative movement. You can denouncing the pointless sloganeering. You can help turn back the tide of public opinion, simply by behaving differently from the stereotypes.
Want me to keep digging!
That is of course ridiculous.
Heck, they had a Congressman violate the civil rules of the House last week, and were so upset about it that they made him immediately call Rahm Emmanuel and arrange to apologize to the President, but then when the next apology should have happened, to the whole House, they buckled.
They refuse to acknowledge the fringe elements of their party are not simply 1%'ers. They pretend it's not a big deal that some people still don't accept the incontrovertible fact that Obama was born in Hawaii, and therefore is a natural born citizen, and since he didn't renounce his US Citizenship and become a Kenyan citizen when he was a young adult, he's still a US Citizen and eligible to be President. Someone in a seat of power in the Republican Party should explain that to their followers. They won't.
All kinds of lies keep getting told about Health Care Reform, and the leadership still refuses to rein in those liars. In many cases, it's the leadership who's lying! (Can you say John Boehner?) And yeah, it's lies. It's not just opposition stances. We don't get on them because they disagree with the liberal stance. We see that they refuse to condemn the lies.
Wow, it's a good thing he didn't say that.
Some conservatives have said those things. It's undeniable. The problem isn't that the majority of conservatives believe hateful, racist things- I'm fairly certain they don't. The problem is that the leaders of the conservative movement refuse to denounce them, and the media accentuates their importance. It's the mainstream media, not MMfA, who allow the fringe to dominate the debate. Honestly, if I were an honest, sensible conservative, I'd be mad at the way the media treats the conservative movement, because they're the ones who give disproportionate strength to a small minority. They obsess over rowdy town hall protesters and birther nuts. They act as though Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck speak for all conservatives. You claim to be a reasonable conservative- great. Why aren't you mad as hell that these vicious lying b*stards are being treated as the head of the Republican party?
I will agree with you on the overuse of Hitler analogies, though- that is a problem on both sides (even if I think there's more truth to the left's accusations).
Why am I not mad? That is the job of the media. They want ratings, they want to sell papers and magazines. The same can be said about the Dem leaders who were not outraged when Moveon.org attacked an American General. Why didnt the Dem leaders fight to get in front of the cameras to denounce that? It cuts both ways. The fringe groups on both sides always get the attention.
Pointy is a vile, blind, partisan hack. Great at false equivalency and attacks against anyone who does not conform to his narrow views.
He is spewing his garbage on the public airwaves, so that makes him fair game for criticism.
Last time I checked, moveon.org wasn't a media organization.
False analogy. Try again.
Maybe pointy can look it up and let a little light into his shuttered world.
There is no equivalency on the left for the sheer volume and vitriol that comes from the right.The use of terms like revolution,battle,insurrection,and other references to violence is coming only from the right.The people bringing guns and signs implying violence are from the right.The effigy hangings of elected Dems and even the DEM donkey -all from the right-Racial emails and defacing of a Dem office in Ga.Really a lot more could be covered..already well documented.Why can't the leader of the Republican party tone this back before there is more violence..Go ask Mr. Limbaugh nicely to do so Please....because Steele,Boehner/Cantor/Gingrich nor any other prominent Republican Leader has done so.Only Colin Powel has done so and not apologized immediately!!.
1. A man came to a rally with a legal permit to carry a gun, was no where near the President, and did not harm anyone. Get over it.
2. If Bush did all of these horrible things, then why has Obama:
a. not closed Gitmo
b. extended the patriot act
c. not pulled us from Iraq
d. made no serious attempt to repeal virtually any of the Bush war policies
I love your logic. The Left has good reason to compare Bush to a man who murdered millions....so its ok for them to do it. Grow Up!!
I have never once...never defended the birthers.
I do defend the second amendment, as you should defend it as well.
Your third point in which you claim I defend "any other fringe movement that comes along" was your best. Of course you have nothing to support that but your own rantings and what ever you are smoking....which again, I wish you would share.
I have said many times that those who used racial attacks against the President are wrong. You of course, simply choose to ignore that, and want to paint all conservatives with a broad racist brush. No matter how many times you say it, it is still not true.
Technically speaking, Obama didn't "ban" torture. It has been a crime for the US to torture people for many, many years.
It was a crime when the Bush administration utilized it.
Obama simply reminded our intelligence and military personnel that it is indeed still a crime, despite what Bush/Cheney may have ordered people to do.
This is a flat out lie, and dishonest in every redard(sic)."
Huh?
You're seriously claiming no posters of a witch doctor Obama have been used? That the "birthers" don't exist? And that no Nazi accusations have been flying?
Please tell me, what planet do you like to spend most of your time on?
If it's a flat-out lie, then you should be able to show how, right? I mean, very easily. You state "MMFA will never accept that you can oppose the policies Obama stands for, and not be a racist or think Obama is Hitler." Or really? And you know that how?
The rest of your post is hard to address, because it is simply a rant--a series of provocative statements that can't be proven or disproven.
You failed to really challenge the content of the MMFA piece. *Time* completely white-washed the lies of Beck.
More recently, a Research 2000 poll done back in August showed that for self-identified Republicans, only 32% disbelieved that the health care bill was "trying to kill grandma". That's less than 1/3.
So your claim of "To make the implication that all conservatives, or even most feel this way is what will always keep MMFA a fringe far left outfit reporting on those in the fringe far right." is clearly off base and completely untrue, when polls show that MOST conservatives/Republicans DO in fact think these things.
It means 'Conservatives' versus 'Liberals' or 'Independents'. It doesn't mean "all" Conservatives.
Jamison is talking about the false equivalency argument that Time Magazine tried to make, and he was making the point that it was "Conservatives" who had been doing outrageous things, not Liberals.
Worse, hardly any conservatives are trying to set that record straight. Only recently are a few conservative writers saying "enough" to the LCD pandering. Indeed, Beck is in an IDEAL situation to separate fact from fiction, point out what he doesn't like about Obama but still being honest about it. Of course, his viewers don't want that. And quite frankly, neither does he.
Actually you have it backasswards. When a few war protesters compared Bush to Hitler the right acted like it was everyone.
Seriously pov, what planet do you live on? Not only do we have eyes and can see the numerous signs at the protests, we hear them being interviewed. If they didn't have an "Obama is Hitler" sign they were cheering on those who did. Are you saying that the teabaggers are not conservatives? Are you trying, as the Republican party, to act like you are not the same as people like Bachmann now. I guess it is time to put on a new skin and work toward conning people in 2010.
The leaders of the conservative movement regularly compare Obama to Hitler. You may be confused because Beck will say he “isn't comparing Obama to Hitler" right before he compares Obama to Hitler.
Rush does it all the time and Rush conditions about 20 million minds.
POV, you have to use what is called critical thinking. You will learn about that in the tenth grade, just wait, you'll see.
First comment? What, do you just sit and wait for a new post to come up so you can sidetrack it with absurd horseturds?
It would also be nice if those in opposition could give the specific things to which they are opposed. Saying "I want my country back" or "Socialism, Fascism" is not an argument. Getting angry over "czars" just makes you look silly when you look an inch below the surface and see that a) many of these "czars" are Senate approved, and b) Reagan started the whole "czars" thing and Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2 all used them.
Another thing, please provide solutions to the problems we are facing that go beyond "tax cuts" or "free market." I think the free market is a great way to do business, but until conservatives get honest about the fact that it can't do everything, this country is going to be treading water, at best.
I'd also ask for a little consistency, being that I heard nary a peep about spending during the Bush years.
As for the Bush/Obama comparisons, first I'll say I agree with you that Hitler is thrown around with way too much ease by both sides. As for the criticisms of Bush vs the criticisms of Obama, here's the difference. People were angry with Bush for things that he had actually done, not for things they thought he might do, but had absolutely no evidence for.
I think the right can combat these perceptions by standing up to the extremists within their ranks. Instead they've been an amen choir to the crackpots. Think about it -- the absurd examples you cite didn't come from Media Matters. They came from high-profile conservatives such as Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin. Until mainstream conservatives denounce such inflammatory rhetoric we have to conclude that they agree with it.
If you really want to keep your finger on the new pulse of insanity by watching them, then DON'T buy anything from those that advertise on the dysfunctional talking heads and let them know.
For the time being, it is obvious we've lost real "news" reporting and time will be better spent with family, friends and if you can, vetting the bad news claims over the internet.
These players don't give a tinker's damn about you, community, state nor the well being of this country or its future.
Glenn Beck works for The News Corporation (two heapings of irony there brother). Time Magazine is published by Time Warner, arguably the largest communications company in the Universe. Yes, I said, the Universe. In nearly every type of media, these organizations go head-to-head, hand-to-hand and toe-to-toe, yet they behave as if keeping Americans frothy and fearful is a grand strategic partnership.
Simply, why does Time Warner not bury Glenn Beck but praise him?
This is outrageous. It is just too much. Start a petition, the President of CNN might stick to Dobbs, but maybe Time is more keen to get rid of its bad weeds?
Please join me, and lets start making a list of all those who advertise in Time magazine.
Dear Time Magazine:
It has come to our attention that you have written a story about Glen Beck. Furthermore, it has come to our attention that you did not provide MMFA with an advance copy of the story, nor did you seek their input in the writing process. This is simply unacceptable!!
No where in this article did you refer to Beck as evil, Satan, the Anit-Christ, a liar, bigot, racist, or other MMFA approves labels. As a result, we must, as patriotic left leaning Americans, begin a boycott of your magazine, and we must start a campaign to force all of your advertisers to abandon your publication. In addition, we will run a list of advertisers who still choose to support you.
This boycott will stop once you allow MMFA to preview as well as edit all future articles you run on people who are conservatives, know conservatives, or are related to conservatives.
We eagerly await your response.
In order to be balanced, not liberal but balanced, the Time article must state that Beck is a habitual liar and state nothing else. Beck's lies are the totality of his television persona, and to focus on anything else is to deny the truth and to highlight the insignificant.
In a media bias study, an article stating forcefully that Beck is a habitual liar would be classified as liberal. But such an article would be playing it right down the middle.
When did TIME feature Olbermann, Mike Moore, or Ed Schultz on its cover? Oh yeah, NEVER!
Why not? Because they need to sell to a potential audience of at least 2 dozen interested readers. oberman, moore and schultz are just not that important, although I like obermann on ESPN.
Speaking truth to/about progressives.
Why this magazine with their former reputation would elect to glorify this individual who has placed on the air lie after lie regarding what is in the health care reform proposals- some one who has invested countless hours to retain the divisiveness we now see, who uses dangerously inflammatory rhetoric and name-calling with abandon, a man who mused about poisoning the speaker of the house, and other off-the-rails activity -would be more likely seen not on the cover of TIME but rather on the corner of Times Square- dressed in sandwich boards.
BECK: What??!! What are you talking about?! It's HUGE! I know you've never seen one this big before!!
The 70,000 figure was not given as an "official estimate" by the DC Fire Department as it is NOT their policy to estimate crowd size since it can be a political football. This estimate was NOT based on any actual counting or scientific method, it was just made by a Fire Department Official hazarding a guess. As a matter of fact, this offcial went out of his way to say that his guess was in no way an official statement.
Now there are about 20 other estimates that measure the crowd at 500,000 to 1.2 million, but we'll ignore those since it doesn't follow our liberal meme. We'll go with the lowball unofficial guess. Oh yeah. And we'll call everyone else liars.
We'll also say that any estimate by a conservative is a LIE since it was made by a conservative, yet we will take liberals word for it on how many people atended Obama's Coronation.
All you need to do is watch the opening 3 hours parade of nonstop humanity to realize this crowd was massive. 70,000 is a pathetic joke.
How about the LIES he told about Van Jones. Oh that's right, he just showed video of Jones talking in his own words. If beck was telling LIES about Jones, why did Obama through his good friend under the bus without even a single counter-punch?
Because Glenn beck told and does tell the truth and you can't handle the truth.
P.S., You guys are aware that you are going to get pwned at the ballot box in 2010, right? You counting on the blacks and youth to turn out en masse in a mid term election? I predict you lose 70 seats in the house alone and harry Reid in the Senate will be gone.
Then Pointofview, in typical tu quoque rhetoric of the current Right, says of Foser, "You LIE!" How so? Because in Pointy's mind, Foser implies that all Conservatives have bought into birther and death panel propaganda. The article says nothing of the sort, of course. The sentence, in both context and construction, simply notes the ideological bent of those making those charges.
The good news: folks like Pointy, even though defensive of conservatives, don't actually believe the birther or death panel claims. Whew! The bad news: he/she doesn't care about truth. Cynicism reigns. Everybody lies. No media is to be trusted. And Glen Beck and his ilk can be guano crazy and factually wrong, but still "morally" right. Because its the movement -- and the resistance to all things Obama -- that really matters. The ends justifies the means, right?
My frustration with Time's story on Beck has nothing to do with the affront of covering Beck or even writing positively about him. Something bad happens to Time's credibility when, in the service to that profile, it distorts the facts. One thing to provide Beck's interpretation of the facts, his justification for his claims. Quite another to make those clearly and demonstrably false Beck claims on a par with verifiable facts that disprove them -- from crowd numbers to the crazy things Beck says.
But in the end, it is the conservative troll with the reprise of Rep. Wilson's martyred act of speaking falsehood to power that becomes the focus of the comments for this article. One person. One comment, with follow up "rebuttals." The same tired, cynical memes. A microcosm, that, for 9-12, birthers, Beck followers, etc. Is our attention to him that much different than the media's attention to those fringe movements?
But seriously, dude, all conservatives aren't like that. Sha!
Mr.Foser wrote a level-handed, and at times, funny article. The part where he writes about crowd estimates: "...it came from ,'sane,' sources,..." got me laughing, big-time! Why not trust the professionals? They have done the job before, and have the experience. Conservative gossip estimates could not be supported by the evidence; buses, hotel vacancies, and a clogged metro system. Surely, reports would have abounded. Let alone the economic boost, to the city.
Kudos, on this article!
It be it,
Ronin Kannushi.
Open Call for American Citizens to Take Action Against Fox News Network, Mark Williams and Rush Limbaugh
On September 17, 2009, Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, warned of possible violence if the rhetoric wasn’t toned down across the nation.
We all seem to know where the rhetoric is coming from. Fox News Network www.foxnews.com, Glenn Beck, Mark Williams www.marktalk.com/blog, Hannity, Limbaugh www.rushlimbaugh.com and O’Reilly have motivated thousands of conservatives to turn out for tea bag, birther and deather events.
We are asking you, if you believe, Fox News is a major component in inciting our citizens, utilizing, their media outlet as a weapon, to derail peace. Remember, our goal is not to infringe on anybody’s freedom of speech rights. However, the question is, whether the words used by this network, are used in such circumstances, and are of such a nature, as to put, us, all, in clear or present danger.
That their words, will incite, substantive, evils against our citizens or president.
Military familes have already taken a stand when they wrote the Department Of Defense regarding supporting Fox News and the adverse effects Fox were having on their community, not only did they pull advertising, they also, blocked Fox News at military installations, as being restricted material.
http://hiteminthewallet.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/open-call-for-american-citizens-to-take-action-against-fox-news-network-mark-williams-and-rush-limbaugh/
It was not a bunch of racists. There was a collection of people from all races, ages, political parties etc. Also there was not one arrest all day.
I think we ran the criminals out of town because on an average day there are arrests since DC is one of the most crime ridden cities in America and that would be without congress being in session. With congress in session it would have to rank as the most crime-ridden city on the planet. I would say that the Capitol Building and congressional offices would be considered the most criminal area on the planet by criminals per square foot.
PS. Just to make it even, let's hope the next issue of Time has George Soros pictured on it. Instead of sticking out his tongue, he can be shown standing upon all the billions he's made at the expense of the currencies that he speculated against, de-valued and then walked away with, taking millions of individuals' life savings, economic hopes and ability to live securely. Fair enough?
.... they have to whistle past that graveyard.
A few months ago, conservatism was defeated in a landslide national election. This was because conservatism had failed in such a spectacular and visible way on every issue imaginable.
After that, the same friggin people who voted for the losers in the election protested.
Because of that, this shows that conservatism is growing? That victory is coming?
How can you call someone a liar if they repeat what they heard from an otherwise creditable source? It isn't the truth, but it certainly isn't lying.
Not to mention, no one is using the million numbers anymore (except maybe those who truly have their heads in the sand).
By the way, go to YouTube, the statements about 9/11 and Katrina were only about a handful of families, the monologue was about how a a few people can spoil it for everyone. You conveniently left out all the charity work he has done for 9/11. But that would undermine the point you are trying to make, I don't blame you.
"The only 'lie' you could find was the 1.7 million number?"
That's because it was a puff piece, meaning that it didn't bother with factual assertions, which is the whole problem.
There are a few thousand negative facts about Beck, and two positive facts (his audience size and his money). It is very strange that a fact-free article still found time to include both of the positive facts.
What more could one want?
Foser's 30,000 came from a real source. Malkin's 2 million came from a made-up source. But the people who used the made-up source never had to admit it, never had to apologize, never had their readers find out that they're bad journalists who shouldn't be listened to on other matters.
And please don't give me this idea that it's not fair to pick one little thing Beck said and criticize him for it. First, the guy talks for a living. And he purposely tries to be as controversial as possible when he does it. It's how he became a millionaire. So I'd say it's perfectly within reason to criticize him for what he says. I'm not asking that the government shut him up, but I also think he should be called out when he spews nonsense.
Everyone who is outraged about the sort of drivel that Glenn Beck spews on a daily basis should be very vocal in their opposition. Write letters to their corporate sponsors and tell them you are not going to use or buy their products if they continue to enable these lies and innuendos to be protrayed as journalism or "real news" for that matter. Glenn Beck and others like him make their own twisted news and don't report "facts", most everything is rumor.
(A sidenote) I formerly resided in the county near the city(Mt Vernon,Washington) where Glenn Beck was born.(two of my adultchildren still live there) Recently it was brought to my attention that the mayor of Mt,Vernon was to give Glenn Beck the key to the city and proclaimed Sept 26 Glenn Beck day. I was outraged and sent a letter to Bud Norris the mayor and to the local newspaper. Skagit Valley Herald.
Following is a comment on a Seattle Times article:
Glenn Beck day? Why not honor the town drunks or meth addicts? And listen to their opinions as well. And put them on a national forum. After... Posted on September 3, 2009 at 1:51 AM by Trumpet.
My thoughts exactly.