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Memo to the media: Fox News is now the Opposition Party

October 13, 2009 8:14 am ET

Fox News has changed the rules. Now the press needs to change the way it covers Fox News.

Rupert Murdoch's cable cabal is now, first and foremost, a political entity. Fox News has transformed itself into the Opposition Party of the Obama White House, which, of course, is unprecedented for a media company in modern-day America. That partisan embrace means the news media have to expand beyond typing up Fox News-ratings-are-up and the White-House-is-angry stories, and it needs to start treating the cable channel for what it is: a partisan animal.

The press needs to drop its longstanding gentleman's agreement not to write about other news outlets as news players --not to get bogged down in criticizing the competition -- because those newsroom rules no longer apply. Fox News has exited the journalism community this year. It's a purely political player, and journalists ought to start covering it that way.

I understand Fox News still wants to enjoy the benefits of being seen as a news operation. It still wants the trappings and the professional protections that go with it. But it no longer functions as a news outlet, so why does the rest of the press naively treat it that way?

Fox News is now at the forefront of a political movement. As blogger Glenn Greenwald tweeted at the time of the Sept. 12 Washington, D.C., rally:

Seems like a fairly new phenomenon that we now have a political movement led by a TV "news" outlet -- that usually happens elsewhere.

In a follow-up email to me, Greenwald noted the similarities between Fox News' overt role in U.S. politics with places like Venezuela, where the opposition TV station led the failed 2002 coup attempt against Hugo Chavez, as well as Italy, where Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, a media magnate, uses his TV ownership to agitate. "Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch are really using that model to organize and galvanize this protest movement," wrote Greenwald. "It's a totally Fox News-sponsored event."

Completely detached from traditional newsroom standards, Fox News has become a political institution, and the press needs to start treating it that way. The press needs to treat Fox News the same way it treats the Republican National Committee, even though, frankly, the RNC probably can't match the in-your-face partisanship that Fox News flaunts 24/7. Think about it: Murdoch's "news" channel now out-flanks the Republican Party when it comes to ceaseless partisan attacks on the White House.

Truth is, in recent years the RNC used to use Fox news to help amplify the partisan raids that national Republicans launched against Democrats. It was within the RNC that the partisan strategy was mapped out and initiated. (i.e. it was the RNC that first pushed the Al-Gore-invented-the-Internet smear). But it was on talk radio and Fox News where the partisan bombs got dropped. Today, that relationship has, for the most part, been inversed. Now it's within Fox News that the partisan witch hunts are plotted and launched, and it's the RNC that plays catch-up to Glenn Beck and company.

And I'm sorry, but the Fox News defense that it's a just a few on-air pundits who (relentlessly) attack the White House and that the news team still plays it straight is, at this point, a joke. What kind of "news" team, in the span of five days, airs 22 clips of health reform forums featuring only people who oppose reform? What kind of "news" team tries to pass off a GOP press release as its own research -- typo and all? What kind of "news" team promotes a partisan political rally? (Or did I miss the 100-plus free ads that CNN aired in 2003 promoting an anti-war rally?)

As Media Matters has meticulously documented this year, there is no real difference between Fox News' Obama-hating pundits and Fox News' Obama-hating news team. They have become a seamless operation at this point.

A few years ago, the dumbed-down debate surrounding Fox News was whether it truly was fair and balanced. (It wasn't.) Today, it's whether Fox News is truly a news organization. (It's not.) Yet journalists remain way too timid in spelling out the truth. Spooked by right-wing attacks about the so-called liberal media, Beltway media insiders, who certainly understand Fox News' brazen political maneuver in 2009, continue to play dumb on a massive scale and cover Fox News as a news media organization.

There are small signs that the Beltway press corps is catching on. "The United States has two parties now -- the Obama Party and the Fox Party," Newsweek's Jonathan Alter recently noted. And in the pages of The New Yorker, Hendrik Hertzberg was quite precise in spelling out the extraordinary changes under way [emphasis added]:

This sort of lunatic paranoia -- touched with populism, nativism, racism, and anti-intellectualism -- has long been a feature of the fringe, especially during times of economic bewilderment. What is different now is the evolution of a new political organism, with paranoia as its animating principle. The town-meeting shouters may be the organism's hands and feet, but its heart -- also, Heaven help us, its brain -- is a "conservative" media alliance built around talk radio and cable television, especially Fox News. The protesters do not look to politicians for leadership. They look to niche media figures like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, and their scores of clones behind local and national microphones.

Too often, though, journalists have danced around the obvious. It's important that this trend now stop. The self-evident truth needs to be told, and news consumers need to understand the extraordinary forces that have been unleashed -- forces that dramatically altered the media landscape. News consumers also need to understand why it's becoming increasingly impossible to maintain any kind of public discourse regarding the issues of the day, especially health care reform, when a major so-called news organization is devoted to spreading as much misinformation as possible.

And succeeding:

In our poll, 72% of self-identified FOX News viewers believe the health-care plan will give coverage to illegal immigrants, 79% of them say it will lead to a government takeover, 69% think that it will use taxpayer dollars to pay for abortions, and 75% believe that it will allow the government to make decisions about when to stop providing care for the elderly.

Instead of telling the truth, too many journalists have ducked the issue of Fox News. That trend was especially rampant during this summer's health care mini-mobs, which were egged on by Murdoch's team. For instance, look at this passage from Newsweek, as the weekly tried to detail the anger behind the mini-mob madness while politely turning a blind eye to Fox News' central role in it:

In contrast, there is no shortage of groups, politicians, and just plain folks intent on proving that health-care reform will lead to, say, the rationing of medical treatments, and they all seem to have a Web site, blog, and/or Facebook page. Given that people who are sure that the U.S. government faked the moon landings (and that Obama was born in Kenya) can find support for their view online, how surprising is it that you can Google your way to "evidence" of all the evils of Obama-care?

See? According to Newsweek, people were going "online" and using "Google" to find proof that Obama's health care proposal was pure evil. Perhaps. But guess what? All Obama haters really had to do was flick on the TV, plop down on the couch, and watch America's most-watched cable "news" channel fear monger with dire warnings about health care. But Newsweek made no mention of Fox News.

Instead, it was simply "groups," "politicians," and "just plain folks" who were behind the wild anti-Obama rhetoric, according to Newsweek, which forgot to mention that the country's most-watched cable news channel was driving that bus.

Indeed, this summer, Fox News was the (literal) elephant in the room. The press kept trying to explain who or what was the behind the health care mini-mobs craze; who or what was whipping people into such an unhinged, anti-Obama frenzy just seven months after the mainstream Democrat was sworn into office. Yet time and again, refusing to acknowledge the cable channel's purely political play, journalists politely declined to point the finger at Fox News.

For example, The New York Times belatedly published a detailed look at how the death panel lie was spread into the mainstream press. The article was approximately 1,200 words long. Exactly seven of those 1,200 words were set aside to acknowledge Fox News' role. (And only Glenn Beck was singled out.) Again, I'm not overstating anything when I say if it weren't for Fox News there wouldn't have been a death panel "debate" this summer. Period. It was bought and paid for by Fox News, and the whole news crew; not just the nighttime hosts. But the Times only set aside a fragment of a single sentence to highlight the cable channel's irreplaceable role.

Time and again this year, the Beltway press has politely refused to call out Fox News' new political role. Look at this Politico passage, which was utterly typical of this year's fare:

By doing so much, so fast, Obama gave Republicans the chance to define large swaths of the debate. Conservatives successfully portrayed the stimulus bill as being full of pork for Democrats. Then Obama lost control of the health care debate by letting Republicans get away with their bogus claims about "death panels."

All the highlighted phrases, of course, are placeholders for "Fox News." But Politico politely declined to mention Fox News. Politico would never place Fox News front and center of a political movement, because it's just a media outlet. They don't do politics, right?

It's clear that in 2009, Fox News is no longer in the business of journalism. Fox News isn't trying to inform people, it's trying to misinform them. That's not journalism. It's propaganda. But as long as the press continues to hold up the façade of journalism, Fox News will try to hide behind it.

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 13, 2009 8:27 am ET)
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      Fox isn't a party, it's a wake.
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      • Author by News Corpse (October 13, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
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        Nah...A wake is too much fun.

        Fox is a cult. In fact, two years ago I wrote a piece called The Cult of Foxonality that illustrates how Fox has become an end unto itself. Their viewers/disciples are more loyal to Fox than to Republicans or conservatism.
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      • Author by liberallyfox (October 13, 2009 11:08 pm ET)
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        I respect your opinions as individuals. I am a Freedom Lover.
        It seems to me that it's interesting how you all in this line of comments can act as if the general media is NOT liberal.
        So, let's (be honest) and say that 90% of cable and other T.V. news outlets are Liberal and the entire difference that is 10% is Fox and Conservative. On top of that, you have to remember Radio is dominated by liberal people its just 5 to 10 Conservatives in AM radio left to be conservative.
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        • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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          But we don't "act" as if the MSM isn't liberal. We know it's not.

          We'd be happy to be honest. Too bad you won't behave the same way.

          It's a lie that was first expressed about 30 years ago that there's a liberal media bias. It was never true. It was simply a misstatement of reality used to allow the advancement of a few rightwing media sources and to scare neutral media into avoidance of anything that might look like liberal media bias!!

          I respect opinions that are based on reality.
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          • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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            Hi Dell-
            You had me interested until you tried to make a dig at "my reality..."
            Unfortunately for you, I have to explain that your "reality" is not based on any statistics or empirical data. So this proves that your reality is really just an opinion based on perception.

            Can another reader explain to "us" why is it that when people have a weak argument they try to insult?

            I still respect your opinion Dell, even though I think its incorrect. Maybe all the conservatives should have their opinions taken away?
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            • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 3:40 pm ET)
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              Actually, my reality is totally based upon facts and truth. It is based upon empirical data. Republican leaders have explained that they pushed the liberal media myth with an agenda in mind. A slightly higher percentage of journalists have described themselves as liberal over the years, but those peons don't lead the way - they do what their overwhelmingly conservative owners, publishers and editors tell them to do. Personal political beliefs of the journalists don't rule the day. Fair and impartial reviews of the news have never shown a liberal bias.

              Where did I insult you? I told you, and everyone else, that you weren't being honest and you weren't being fair. If I saw you set a building on fire and then I called you an arsonist, would that too be an insult?
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          • Author by DaTruth (October 14, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
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            Please...I've never heard so much nonsense. You really can't believe what you wrote, can you? It's absurd, and if you had even an ounce of intellectual honesty, you'd admit as much.

            Pew Reseach Poll in 2008: By a margin of 70% to 9%, Americans believed the media wanted Obama to win. 70 to 9!

            Americans overwhelmingly felt the media wanted Obama to win

            I guess 70 percent of Americans are delusional, right? Unreal...

            Same organization -- Pew Research-- shows historical views of the media by perceptions of political biases. Here's a chart from 1985-2009: Read it and weep...people have historically felt and continue to feel that the media is Liberal-biased

            There's some "reality" for you. Whether you choose to take off your rose-colored glasses is up to you. We won't hold our collective breath waiting, lol.

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            • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 1:20 pm ET)
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              DaTruth-
              This has nothing to do with Obama, he won. People wanted a change and they got that for sure. I am not talking about Obama so don't try to bring that in on this conversation. We are talking about whether the media is liberal or conservative.

              So the Reality based on your link, well lets use your synopsis: From DaTruth "Read it and weep...people have historically felt and continue to feel that the media is Liberal-biased" is that people feel that the media is liberal biased, right? And that's what I said.
              And if they continue to feel that way (about the media) in spite of the "fact" that Liberals have the majority it proves my statement even more that the Media is liberal by the majority.
              So where are the rose colored glasses?
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            • Author by Koyaanisqatsi (October 14, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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              Because a majority of poll respondents perceive something a particular way, that does not make it true.

              In November 2001, a majority of Americans beleived that Bush and Co. had no forewarning that an attack was imminent.
              Of, course, nothing was further from the truth.
              Does that make their belief false? No, they beleived it...but they were wrong.
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              • Author by Koyaanisqatsi (October 14, 2009 2:26 pm ET)
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                i b4 e, etc. sorry.
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                • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 2:33 pm ET)
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                  From Koy's point then we can say that: The belief that the media is NOT liberal might not be a belief that is false, but that they are still wrong?
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            • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 3:44 pm ET)
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              Since when does an American's opinion about who the media might want to win mean that the media actually is biased towards that hoped-for winner? Here's a clue - it doesn't.

              People thinking that the media is biased towards liberal doesn't mean it is.

              That's not "reality". That's opinion formed after years of the lie being repeated over and over that there is a liberal bias in media!
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            • Author by taydigga (October 15, 2009 9:01 pm ET)
                 
              has anyone ever thought that the word "liberal" is a word created and projected upon a media that differs from what conservatives want. Of course it's liberal if it's not your view. But does that take away from the truth. If they report on guns, abortion, and all the stereotypes of the conservatives with a slant of they hate it, or don't agree with it and etc., then yeah, I can see. I'm talking reporting not the Op-ed's and editorials and stuff. But just because a news station reports that Bush's numbers are down. Or anything negative about him, doesn't make it "liberal". Not in the perjorative tone that conservatives use it these days. "free" is the true definition of the word and it makes sense conservatives don't like it. Control is there security.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
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          The NON-conservative news is 80% not liberal. I see and hear things all the time that I agree with and disagree with. They make me happy, angry, sad. They lean this way today, they way tomorrow, in the middle the next day. I can't find a news organization that ALWAYS leans one way except FOX NEWS.
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          • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
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            I do not deny that I think that Fox is conservative most of the time 90% or so, but I see Bill O'Reily a couple times a week and I think he likes President Obama. I have seen him defend P.O. just as he did Bush many times.
            That is just one of their Programs, I realize that's true. But by the same token all of the others: CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC..they are as liberal as fox is conservative.
            I do watch more than Fox, ex (Anderson Cooper ) last night. I don't only watch FN by any means.
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            • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
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              Another false equivalency argument. While it's true that FoxNews leans right with virtually everyone on their shows (Shepard Smith is middle of the road, O'Reilly has lucid moments but leans right most of the time), there is no other news network or broadcast channel that has a similar bent to the other side.

              MSNBC would the closest to the opposite, but they aren't in a couple of very important ways. First off, they have 3 hours of Joe Scarborough. Then they have Andrea Mitchell. Then they have Chris Matthews. That's the first major difference - unanimity on FoxNews, not so much on MSNBC. Then we go with the content of the programming on Fox's new programs versus that on MSNBC. FoxNews, sexist, pushing rightwing slant even on their news segments, pushing the 9/12 marches with multiple promotions, etc. MSNBC, not biased or bigoted on their news segments, not pushing an agenda. Then we get to their opinion shows. FoxNews, full of lies, smears, distortions, on top of slanted coverage of events. MSNBC, slanted coverage of events only, very few lies or distortions.

              They aren't equivalent. The fact that you don't know this, or won't admit this, defines your bias better than anything else.
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              • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 4:01 pm ET)
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                Dell-
                Everything you are saying is again just your opinion again. I feel the opposite exactly about say MSNBC..
                You are just reiterating your message and adding more words to it. You have not proved anything more. We all understand your Views and Bias against Fox already.
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                • Author by rms (October 15, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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                  What rally, for example, like the 9-12 march, was ACTIVELY PROMOTED by MSNBC, as the 9-12 was by Fox?
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                • Author by DellDolly (October 15, 2009 11:30 am ET)
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                  Nope, not everything - in fact, not anything I said was strictly an opinion. It was all backed up by factual information readily available to all.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (October 14, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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          I am a Freedom Lover.

          That's like someone who has to proclaim they're a Christian. Or someone having to brag about their manhood.

          It's usually not true.
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          • Author by liberallyfox (October 14, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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            I love my freedom and to keep it, I will respect yours. That's how I feel. How do you like that honesty?
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    • Author by JoshSN (October 13, 2009 8:57 am ET)
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      The use of the term "out-flank" seemed odd there, since a unit can be flanked from either side.
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      • Author by achrispage6992 (October 13, 2009 9:47 am ET)
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        That is your analysis? A petty observation on phrase usage? How does that, in any way, give an indication that Boehlert is wrong?

        This has moved beyond personal beliefs about journalistic entities sir. Fox News has simply thrown all caution to the wind and has chosen to "come out of the closet" (so to speak). Those on talk radio love to talk about the "liberal Media", yet I have yet to see one attempt to support their claim as Boehlert has done here. Laura Ingraham calls CNN the Communist News Network? Sure, but let's see her support her ridiculous assertion as Boehlert has done. Fox needs to understand that one who lives by the sword, dies by the sword. I would be worried if they were in the business of convincing people to a new way of thinking. That just isn't the case. Take away the south, they got nobody watching. Boehlert is dead on here. You can't prove otherwise.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
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          I hope you're right about Fox News being viewed only in the South. I live in the south and I'm scared of what they're doing here. I hope there's a majority unseen by me that's totally against Fox News as I am against Fox News. During the election, my parents advised me to watch Fox News to get the truth. I knew they were a conservative news network, however, to appease my parents I watched. It was clear to me they were lying liars and very UNfair and UNbalanced. I only watch it now so I can know what lies they're telling and be able to uncover the truth to inform my parents since they still religiously only watch Fox News. I don't know if I'm convincing them or not. They have stopped arguing with me because I'm informed and was not an informed person before this election. Having George Bush for President and going into a senseless war in Iraq was the cause of me coming out of my innocent world of "whatever happens, happens".
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          • Author by blk-in-alabam (October 16, 2009 7:22 am ET)
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            President Obama has a lot more supporters in the south than people know about.Many southerners cannot let other southerners know how they feel.I know contractors and other business people who cannot let their customers(rich) how they feel.Because they will get their business cut off.There are many white southerners,rich,poor and middle class who think Obama is the best POTUS ever.In my travels all over Alabama,Missippi,Louisiana,and Texas. I have heard many volunteer this without being asked.Republican party media dosen't know saying Obama as much as they do,encourages people to look closer.Many like what they see.
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    • Author by bigcatc5 (October 13, 2009 9:01 am ET)
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      finally!!!
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    • Author by jflz201884 (October 13, 2009 9:30 am ET)
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      You're right on target with those "What kind of 'news'
      team . . . ?" samples, Eric. I would add: What kind of "news" team frames a president's pending Europe trip as "an apology tour," then doctors post-trip footage to reflect that preferred narrative? Fox would have us believe Obama omitted European nations' mistakes while alluding only to American ones.

      No wonder the administration is steamed at Fox. At the cable news leader (NOT the television news leader) the Obama-hating pundits and the Obama-hating news team indeed have grown seamless.

      At MSNBC, still trailing Fox ratings by a sizable margin, the
      self-description is "The Place for Politics." In the credibility ratings, that surely beats Fox's "fair and balanced."

      Jerry Elsea







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      • Author by News Corpse (October 13, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
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        Indeed, it is long past time to set aside the Fox PR spin that it is only the primetime blowhards who are spewing bias. Fox News is a 24/7 propaganda machine. One revealing measure of this is the collection of conservative-themed books by Fox's "news" team.

        The Fox News Washington managing editor, Bill Sammon wrote numerous partisan books including: Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, Media Bias and the Bush Haters

        The Fox News chief White House correspondent, Major Garret wrote: The Enduring Revolution: The Inside Story of the Republican Ascendancy and Why It Will Continue.

        The rest of the Fox hierarchy is just as biased. Do they really think that anchors like Neil Cavuto, Steve Doocey, and Megyn Kelly are politically neutral? And reporters like Carl Cameron, William LaJuenesse, Brian Wilson, and Griff Jenkins are supposedly fair and balanced?

        The myth about Fox having regular news during the day and an electronic editorial page at night really needs to be busted. It is an outright lie.
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    • Author by placitasroy (October 13, 2009 9:30 am ET)
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      I would like to see the term propaganda used in articles. Foxholes and dittoheads are just like cultists. They are guided by beliefs - neither facts nor truth matter to them.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (October 13, 2009 9:50 am ET)
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      I don't suppose any of the few trolls who lurk the halls of MMfA could bother posting here with proof that Fox Noise is not fully in the pocket of right-wing corporate ideology and is more than willing to destroy president Obama even at the expense of America herself??

      With all that talk over seven years of Bush's presidency (post 9/11) all we kept hearing on Fox was that we needed to support our president at all times and if you did not you were somehow un-American or was told you hated your country!

      I got tired of hearing self-righteous circus clowns questioning my patriotism... I'm tempted to do the same now that the roles are reversed... but I am better than that.

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      • Author by phredicles (October 13, 2009 10:29 am ET)
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        but I am better than that.

        Well, I'm not. As Jon Stewart observed, these people have made it plain that they hate President Obama more than the love (or "love", in my opinion) America.
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        • Author by aslancub17 (October 13, 2009 7:21 pm ET)
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          Some do hate Obama quite a bit. Others are opposed to what Obama
          himself has said he stands for. Redistribution of wealth, open borders
          and bailing out every company that has put itself close to bankruptcy
          through poor management. In a climate where every critcism of Obama is chalked up to "racism" these hollow jibes at Fox are almost as funny as Obama receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for what, exactlty?
          Giving a good speech?
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:33 am ET)
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            Every time you buy a pack of gum, it's a redistribution of wealth. And of course ignore the fact open borders and bailouts of failed companies were a tenant of the Bush years.
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          • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 10:58 am ET)
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            Did Obama create the progressive tax rate? Did his administration help craft and pass the 16th amendment that allowed the income tax?

            Because if they didn't, Obama is not responsible in the way you imply for 'redistribution of wealth'.

            And 'open borders'? That's con speak for bigotry against Mexicans.

            And I am not happy that you think that failing to stop our nation from going into a Depression would have been a good choice. Because that's why Obama bailed out banks and some corporations - the effect that failing to do so would have had on our economy is frightful.

            Every criticism of Obama isn't chalked up to racism. But the personal attacks on him that don't have a basis in reality (hint - yours is a prime example of that) are overwhelmingly tinged with racism.

            And we've explained why Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize. Because dummies like you haven't been able to grasp why, the committee that gave him the prize has come out in an unprecedented way to explain why they chose to do so. You'd be better informed if you read and learned before you came here and proved that you aren't well informed.

            To those who say a Nobel is too much too soon in Obama's young presidency, "We simply disagree ... He got the prize for what he has done," committee chairman Thorbjorn Jagland told The Associated Press by telephone from Strasbourg, France, where he was attending meetings of the Council of Europe.

            Jagland singled out Obama's efforts to heal the divide between the West and the Muslim world and scale down a Bush-era proposal for an anti-missile shield in Europe.

            "Alfred Nobel wrote that the prize should go to the person who has contributed most to the development of peace in the previous year," Jagland said. "Who has done more for that than Barack Obama?"
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      • Author by tal5975 (October 13, 2009 11:02 am ET)
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        I hope this letter marks the turning point on this matter. Now that we're talking about the elephant in the room things can change.
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      • Author by highliter (October 13, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
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        As for Dunn's complaint about Fox News' coverage of the Obama campaign, a study by the Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News' stories on Obama's Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative.

        On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent). The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories -- a spread of 59 points.


        There ya go now you prove MSNBC, CNN, CBS with there tingly feelings in there legs arent in the tank for Obama.

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        • Author by highliter (October 13, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
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          forgot to post the source.

          http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/12/white-house-escalates-war-words-fox-news/
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          • Author by Marker (October 13, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
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            Nice source moron.
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            • Author by highliter (October 13, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
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              Wow nice thought out post refuting the Pew research statics. Amazing.
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              • Author by Craig (October 13, 2009 9:33 pm ET)
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                The study doesn't say anything about bias. Horse race stories that noted Obama was winning counted as positive coverage. When the study was released, the only example given of negative McCain coverage was a CNN.com report that McCain, after suspending his campaign to help with the financial crisis, didn't actually do much of anything according to his colleagues.

                Considering that, the favorable coverage disparity in the SCLM reflected reality, not bias.
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          • Author by DellDolly (October 13, 2009 8:36 pm ET)
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            This is your link, back to FoxNews? How about a link to the study?

            But see, that's where you would have been tripped up, because FoxNews got it wrong. It's not a Pew study, it was a PEJ study. And MMFA knocked it silly last year. The Pew study was from this past spring.

            MMFA has debunked the methodology on these kinds of 'studies' a few times apparently. So have others.
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            • Author by highliter (October 13, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
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              You link to the PEJ study you provided clearly says it part of PEW research. It also shows a 30 percent difference in negative media coverage. You only argument is we don’t like those studies so their no good because MMFA spit out some crap that says so.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 1:38 pm ET)
             
          Liar
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    • Author by nuts (October 13, 2009 10:04 am ET)
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      Obama the Cowardly. Whitehouse fearing the Fox. Wake up!
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 13, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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        We should all fear false propaganda. We should all reject a news network being an opposition party to a lawfully-elected President.

        It is you who needs to wake up to the unpatriotic way you behave and the dishonesty you support.
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      • Author by News Corpse (October 13, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
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        Since when is facing an opponent head on an expression of cowardice?

        The White House's forthright honesty about Fox News takes courage. Few politicians are brave enough to call out powerful media conglomerates in this way. I am proud of them.

        Cowardice would be submitting to Fox and permitting them to continue to foist their lies on the TV audience.
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        • Author by aslancub17 (October 13, 2009 7:23 pm ET)
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          Fox only looks like the opposition because so much of the rest of the media is so completely uncritical.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (October 13, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
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        Obama is cowardly because the White House has called out Fox. Uh-huh.

        Oops--your dishonesty is showing.
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      • Author by Fisgon (October 13, 2009 7:19 pm ET)
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        Your talking about The President of the United States of America, are you an American citizen?. It's YOUR president if you are or claim to be, He was ELECTED don't you remember.

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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:37 am ET)
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        Obama treats Fox News like a child who is holding their breath. Good luck whining Fox.
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      • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 2:03 pm ET)
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        Not fearing. Disregarding them as unworthy of consideration.
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    • Author by Sks1 (October 13, 2009 10:57 am ET)
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      well said,,fixed news has become a arm of the republican party and its time they be called out on it..i'd be curious for someone anyone from fox to provide us with one positive story fox news has reported on president obama since he took office.
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    • Author by DellDolly (October 13, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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      The other news channels need to stop the false equivalency argument, and they need to call it out when guest commentators try to make that same argument. I get so tired of hearing people on TV say that both parties do something when the level of absurdity is just not the same from both. I have the same issue when the fact-checking and debunking by the White House and MSNBC is compared with the distortions from FoxNews.
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    • Author by News Corpse (October 13, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
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      It should be noted that Fox's VP of programming, Bill Shine, actually agrees with you, Eric.

      Earlier this year he said that with the Democrats in power it "make[s] it a little bit easier for us to be the voice of opposition..."

      That's as close to a confession as you can get.
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    • Author by sha44ss (October 13, 2009 12:16 pm ET)
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      MEDIA MATTERS has the GAUL to call Fox News the Oppositon Party.
      Everyone knows MEDIA MATTERS IS LEFT WING PROPAGANDA - pushing OBAMAS SOCIALIST AGENGA! FOX NEWS IS #1 BECAUSE IT PRESENTS BOTH SIDES and sticks with 'THE FACTS' - Media Matters and ALL THE REST of the Mainstream Media are gonna 'die' because AMERICANS want the TRUTH! NEWSWEEK AND NEW YORK TIMES are also LEFT WING PROPAGANDA! IF ANYTHING FOX NEWS BRINGS 'BALANCE' to ALL YOUR FOOLISH IDEOLOGY! THANK GOD AMERICANS (80% CENTER RIGHT)HAVE FOX NEWS!!
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 13, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
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        FoxNews called themselves the Opposition. MMFA didn't have the gall* to call them that. It's something that FoxNews took onto itself, and then the White House brought it up. But we understand that attacking the messenger is all you have.

        And anyone who's crazy enough to think that FoxNews actually presents both sides is too crazy and too ignorant.

        *correct spelling.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (October 13, 2009 1:47 pm ET)
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        MEDIA MATTERS has the GAUL to call Fox News the Oppositon Party.
        Media Matters has France? I believe the word "GAUL" does not mean what you think it does.
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      • Author by MrPlow99 (October 13, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
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        If by "BOTH SIDES" you mean the "far right" and the "really, really far right," then yes, Fox News presents both sides.
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      • Author by Vincenzo (October 13, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
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        Uppercase really helps your message and gives readers a sense of how intelligent you are.
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      • Author by captfoster2 (October 13, 2009 3:17 pm ET)
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        sha44ss

        You my friend represent the aforementioned "troll" that I spoke about in my earlier post!

        As expected you offer absolutely NO facts to back up your idiocy!

        Your post makes no damn sense. It looks as if it was written by an adult with not much more than a 5th grade education who seems to think he actually understands the real world around hiim.

        If America is not to make it in the future, it will be people like you who would be one of the leading reasons as to why!

        Now go email that right-wing think-tank that offered you $50 per post, send them your proof, collect your money like a good little slave and move along.

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        • Author by highliter (October 14, 2009 8:38 am ET)
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          Now go email that right-wing think-tank that offered you $50 per post, send them your proof, collect your money like a good little slave and move along.


          Wow really do you have their email 50$ a post would be sweet.
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          • Author by Cheney2012 (October 14, 2009 10:31 am ET)
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            He gets the money from Media Matters. And Soros pays $75. He has the cash!
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        • Author by you people can't be serious (October 15, 2009 1:01 pm ET)
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          Only a liberal would equate voicing an opinion with making a buck. Do you only speak out for cash? The thought never even occurred to me.
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      • Author by donwelty (October 13, 2009 5:06 pm ET)
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        Well I have some points to bring up about your post.

        1. Media matters says that "Fox news has transformed itself into the opposition party of the Obama administration." The article says that Fox news is a "political player," with "ceaseless partisan attacks." You are correct in this one assertion butcher others are doubtful.

        2. You say "everyone knows media matters is left wing propaganda." When does checking facts, forming reasonable opinions, and researching the non-factual nature of Fox news constitute "left wing propaganda?" Besides unless you have done a poll and have some conclusive evidence that "everyone" it feels as you do, your statement is incorrect.

        3. You say Fox news "presents both sides and sticks with the facts." Apparently, the White House, MSNBC, and media matters disagree.

        4. Your statement that "media matters and all the rest of the mainstream media are going to die because Americans want the truth," implies that Fox news and your opinions are not mainstream. The question I have is if the mainstream media are so mainstream, how are they going to be dislodged? I would also expect that if there are "mainstream," that they represent a greater number of people than the people who support the information presented at Fox news.

        5. At first when I read your post, I thought "wow what a great piece of parody." Apparently you do not consider this to be a parody. To my mind, that's too bad because your post shows ad hominem attacks, unsubstantiated opinions, name-calling, poisoning the well, and other types of illogical statements that Fox news presents.
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      • Author by Southernbelle (October 13, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
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        Oh, I do love debating with intellectuals. Especially French intellectuals. (Umm, your use of the word "Gaul" did refer to France, right? Hint: Save yourself some embarrassment and say "yes"!)

        And I do wish someone (even a French intellectual lol) would explain to me how Obama manages to be both a Communist and a Fascist at the same time?? That would take some doing!! But hey--if our current President can manage being two different things at the same time, he's already proven himself a better man than the last guy in the White House, who had enough trouble focusing on a single issue without getting it wrong.

        And Mr. GAUL--you know nothing about my ideology, the ideology of Media Matters, or anybody else's ideology for that matter.

        All you seem to comprehend is Fox's idiology--a conflation of the words "idiot" and "ideology" which I think nicely expresses Faux Noise. And its sore-loser followers.
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    • Author by Boxer1979 (October 13, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
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      Fox Snooze is like a comedy show network. I enjoy laughing and doing facepalms like this one:

      [http://listicles.thelmagazine.com/wp-content/upload/ironhide_facepalm.jpg]

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      • Author by you people can't be serious (October 15, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
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        thats called a Godsmack and it is what you will all be doing while you watch this administration ruin your life.
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    • Author by jpeagle21 (October 13, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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      I'll make a deal with you all. We'll get rid of Fox's Beck if you get rid of MSNBS'a Olbermann. We'll get rid of Hannity if you get rid of Maddow. We'll get rid of O'Reilly if you get rid of Chris Matthews. Seems like the White House doesn't care about partisan commentary unless it is against THEIR party. Where were all these people when Olbermann was yelling at the screen for George Bush to "Shut the hell up?"
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      • Author by News Corpse (October 13, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
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        I'll tell you what. You keep Beck, Hannity, and O'Reilly. We'll keep Olbermann, Maddow and Matthews. But you give a three hour morning block to a liberal former congressman (ala Scarborough). Fox would never consider such a thing.

        It is at least a little comforting knowing that the Beck's of the world are actually having almost zero impact. Despite their daily blathering, they couldn't stop the Democratic tide in 2006 or 2008. Sure, they get good ratings (albeit only about 1% of the population) but, frankly, I'd rather win at the ballot box than the idiot box.
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      • Author by pongotwistleton (October 13, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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        Where were all these people when Olbermann was yelling at the screen for George Bush to "Shut the hell up?"

        To the far left loons on this site, that's just solid journalism by Uberdouche . .. In no way did it exemplify partisan opposition to the administration by a "news" channel. The far left can't see it, but Uberdouche = Beck.
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      • Author by jpeagle21 (October 13, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
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        And as a side note to my post. Did you notice how you never saw the George Bush White House whining about Olbermann's rants about him during his presidency? Did you ever see George Bush complaining about Bush-bashing "documentaries" (I use that term loosely) from Michael Moore? Nah.....maybe because his white house staff were too concerned about the issues facing the country to think about biased media coverage.
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        • Author by Boxer1979 (October 13, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
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          Nah.....maybe because his white house staff were too concerned about the issues facing the country to think about biased media coverage.

          Yeah they were too busy doing this:

          [http://www.adamzyglis.com/images/cartoon242.jpg]
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        • Author by captfoster2 (October 13, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
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          Nah.....maybe because his white house staff were too concerned about the issues facing the country to think about biased media coverage.

          jpeagle21

          Yeah, you go on believing that the Bush regime actually gave a damn about the issues facing this country! The only thing that collection of neanderthals gave a damn about was how best to screw We the People to further the causes of their corporate masters and themselves!

          As for Bush bashing documentaries... they did not go far enough! In fact, I humbly submit (in my opinion) that the few documentaries done exposing Bush/Cheney were rather lame and did not go far enough. Mainly because of the right-wing corporate ownership of the media.
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          • Author by jpeagle21 (October 13, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
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            It must feel terrible to be you. Filled with such hate and loathing.
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            • Author by captfoster2 (October 14, 2009 12:03 am ET)
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              jpeagle21

              Nice dodging of my entire post!

              Please come back to me with what precisely it is that I wrote in my post which shows my hate and loathing??

              I'm rather curious to know just what it is that makes your brain work the way it does that you got hate and loathing out of what I said??

              As for how I feel about being me... I feel great about being me. In fact, I'm rather proud of who I am, the kind of father I am, the kind of husband I am. About the only thing that sucks about being me, are my joints... my arthritis is killing me but I can't afford to see a doctor so I live with the pain... how do you feel about being you?
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              • Author by jpeagle21 (October 15, 2009 12:38 am ET)
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                Let me just say that I gathered the "hate and loathing" thing from the tone of your post. Dodging? Nah....there was nothing to respond to. Just a big Bush-hating, name-calling rant filled with predictable liberal class-warfare talking points.

                How do I feel about being me? I sleep soundly at night.
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        • Author by steeve (October 13, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
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          Does it make any difference that the rants against Bush are true 100 times more often than the rants against Obama? Does it make any difference at all?

          As soon as reality peeks its head in the door, balance goes right out the window. If you cover reality you're liberally biased, and that's the end of it.
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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          I heard more complaints by Bush and Cheney than by Obama and Biden in person. Spokesmen don't count but if they did, Bush loses again.
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      • Author by cmccauley60244 (October 13, 2009 1:33 pm ET)
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        Again, missing the point of the difference between NEWS and OPINION. Also, ignoring the difference between accuracy and LIES. Olbermann is unquestionably an OPINION SHOW and his rantings are based upon accurate information. Beck, Hannity, O'Reilly are also opinion but they LIE.

        The bigger problem with Fox, however, is that their "NEWS" shows also lie and obfuscate. They also create stories that fit their idealogical positions.
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        • Author by Lizinbklyn (October 13, 2009 2:59 pm ET)
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          Totally agree . .
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        • Author by jpeagle21 (October 13, 2009 6:58 pm ET)
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          You folks can convince yourselves to believe anything.
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        • Author by jpeagle21 (October 13, 2009 7:12 pm ET)
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          I'm a conservative, but I agree that Fox leans to the right. But, the rest of the main stream media networks slant left, especially MSNBC. I don't care what you tell yourselves, the "real" non-commentary news on MSNBC is just as slanted as FOX's "real" news. The White House trying to silent opposition by slamming FOX is pathetic and will backfire.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:49 am ET)
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            It's Fox that looks pathetic. They don't have the inside track on the White House and are whining about it. The White House isn't trying to silence the opposition, (If they were, They're failing) They just don't waste their time with no legitimate media.

            Most non Fox zombies used to give Fox the benefit of doubt but now see the truth because Obama knows Fox for who they truly are, a loud fringe group like the "East Village Other" crying in a shrinking forest.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
             
          I have to say that I've seen O'Reilly tell the truth a couple of times. He's not a 100% liar like Beck and Hannity.
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      • Author by Vincenzo (October 13, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
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        Are you also selling the Brooklyn bridge? FOX will get rid of the guys who basically tell lies for a living and MSNBC will get rid of people who actually check their facts?
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      • Author by my4cents (October 13, 2009 7:52 pm ET)
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        Really? You can get rid of Beck? You make the world rid of him? How?
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      • Author by steeve (October 13, 2009 11:34 pm ET)
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        "We'll get rid of O'Reilly if you get rid of Chris Matthews" - you tipped your hand. You have no clue about the overall conservative bias in the media.

        Matthews hates Hillary and Gore with all his heart and all his soul and all his mind. Name one republican that Matthews hates.

        Matthews is madly in love with McCain, Giuliani, and Romney. Name two democrats that Matthews is madly in love with.

        For what it's worth, being partisan is okay. Being habitually wrong is not okay. Repeatedly claiming to be nonpartisan when you're partisan is not okay.
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    • Author by vonbargen9388 (October 13, 2009 12:28 pm ET)
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      Two encouraging observations:
      1)Roger Ailes and Glenn Beck want Fox to be the Alamo. Hmmm, does that mean they expect to be massacred and overrun? I hopw so.
      2)Limbaugh and Beck agree that the former spawned the latter and Rush says his "child" is dead on. Limbaugh will live to regret acknowledging paternity here. Beck has none of Limbaugh's admitted wit and he isn't even tough enough to answer questions by a female newscaster. (Watch the Couric interview with Glenn and compare to Rush's recent romp on NBC.) Beck will flame out by the new year.
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      • Author by barscotch9441 (October 14, 2009 12:04 am ET)
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        Beck will flame out by the new year.

        Don't be too sure. Becky does a very effective job of appealing to the heartland- and southland-centered "scared-crapless-of-the-black-president" bloc.
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      • Author by dave (October 14, 2009 9:52 am ET)
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        ...isn't even tough enough to answer questions by a female newscaster....


        If Rush had said this, there be a cry of sexism from you guys.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:54 am ET)
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        Where is this alleged "wit" Rush has? I first heard Rush on WABC Radio back in the late 80's. He hasn't changed. He was surrounded by old time right wingers that no longer have shows and he was by far the most boring, the most irritating, and the least funny of them.

        Like a McDonalds burger and VH1's I Love... series, the ultimate mediocre product wins out.
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    • Author by Zo44 (October 13, 2009 5:14 pm ET)
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      You guys give Fox News too much credit! An Opposition Party? Calling a news channel an "Opposition Party" shows the weakness of the White House and this website!
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    • Author by PJB (October 13, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
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      You people are scary. And, what is scarier is the White House stooping to the lowlife, community organizer type, political street fight position of attacking a cable news network that has the courage to confront a "run amok" government. You are freightend litle people who cannot stand scrutiny of your pathetic socialist/totalitarian/controlled press positions. You need help.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 11:22 am ET)
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        The "run amok" government was the Bush Administration.

        You had them violate the spirit of the joint Congressional resolution that told them to use all available diplomatic resources before invading Iraq, for example. The UN had weapons inspectors in Iraq, not finding any WMD's, and Bush ordered them out so he could invade!

        You had them violating the FISA Act, despite the fact that they could get back-dated wiretapping warrants! They stole a bunch of other personal freedoms in the guise of national security, all the while pretending that no other administration had ever been trying to protect us from foreign terrorists! The fact was, it was the Bush Administration that fell down on the job between 1/20/01 and 9/11/01.

        You had them trying to disable all kinds of environmental rules to favor business profits over long-term ecological protections.

        I could go on and on.

        And it's your side that runs from scrutiny. Cheney claiming that he's not a part of either the executive or judicial branch, and so no one can oversee his behavior. All sorts of WH personnel who avoided subpeonas like the plague, and stonewalled an investigation into the outing of a covert CIA spy. Even FoxNews' latest scoop about ACORN was evidence of this - the people who made the tapes (illegally in at least 2 states) wouldn't appear on any network besides FoxNews! Talk about people who couldn't stand scrutiny - they didn't even vet those tapes to find out what really happened. FoxNews simply showed the edited tapes that made ACORN look bad.

        You need help. Sadly it's almost certain that you won't get it. This site is not for you. It's for reasonable people who want the truth. I hope you notice that in the past few years, serious fact-checking has started up, and it's because of the almost-constant lies from your side. If you go to Factcheck.org, Politifact, or even snopes, you'll see that most of the debunked political stuff comes from your side. Not all, but most. You'll see that 80% or more of the "pants on fire" lies are from your side. 20 out of 20 of the most recent "pants on fire" lies on Politifact.com come from the right.
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    • Author by steeve (October 13, 2009 6:47 pm ET)
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      "What kind of 'news' team, in the span of five days, airs 22 clips of health reform forums featuring only people who oppose reform?"

      Shameful. A real news team would skew it 17-5 so their spokespeople can play dumb during live chats.

      What kind of news team, in the span of one year, fails to run a single significant story providing relevant insights on why the whole world spends half what we do on health care? That would be the entirety of our national media.
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      • Author by RichScribe (October 13, 2009 11:21 pm ET)
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        If MediaMatters is unbaised, as is claimed here, then why is it that every single time I go to their website all I see are stories bashing the right-leaning publications and broadcaters? I never see one single critical article against MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC or CBS.
        Now why is that? Is it that MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, AP, etc, etc., never make a mistake? Never slant a story to fit their political agenga?
        Really? In all this time none of these news organizations have crossed the line enough to be called on the carpet? Not even once? (Hello Dan Rather)
        I get the feeling that this is just a case of the pot calling the kettle black and the writer of this story was well paid by the Obama 24/7 Campaign Machine.
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        • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 11:28 am ET)
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          Where is it claimed that MediaMatters doesn't just check conservative media misinformation? Show me please. Or go suck a lemon to make your face get stuck in that ugly scowl.

          Feel free to create a site that checks liberal media misinformation - not liberal bias, since assigning motives is not something that's easily done or appropriate - just fact check 'em. Prepare to be fairly bored, though. There's no comparison between the distortions on the left and from the right.
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        • Author by midcinmann (October 14, 2009 2:31 pm ET)
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          I've seen them bash unsubstantiated news reports from those stations. There just aren't as many to report on as there are from Fox News.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (October 15, 2009 2:38 am ET)
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          Why are you here if you feel this way? You're free to leave at any time. Whenever someone blames President Obama for something to which he has no connection, they have nothing substantive to say.
          Go. Away.
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    • Author by HOOX (October 13, 2009 9:33 pm ET)
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      Thank you media MATTERS
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    • Author by Sunsfan (October 13, 2009 11:46 pm ET)
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      The hypocracy of this article and the subsequent comments is astounding.

      I turned on MSNBC the other day and saw nothing but political propoganda representing the progressive point of view.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (October 14, 2009 10:56 am ET)
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        Nice detailed analysis there.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 11:32 am ET)
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        It's hypocrisy. And hypocrite. And hypocritical.

        There's no hypocrisy in this article or the comments here either. I am not surprised that you make a blanket accusation, trying to pretend that there's equivalency between FoxNews and MSNBC without providing any evidence. And then you imply that two wrongs make a right. They don't. If MSNBC behaved in the way you suggest, they'd be wrong too. But they don't.
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    • Author by bob139 (October 14, 2009 8:51 am ET)
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      As an young Australian in school, Rupert Murdoch was not likely ingrained with the same "reverence" for the printed truth, as are American students. For us, Freedom of the Press means that the truth, ultimately, will champion. This "reverence" is uniquely American, and sets the United States apart from other nations.

      "News" organizations have always understood their special place in our society. As with the medical field, the "business" of news is a little different than other business, in which high standards outrank profits. Generally, professionals in that field also understand their special place in society.

      Apparently, "news", for Murdoch, does not reside on such a pedestal. Clearly, he views "news" as just another business - with any and all competitive practices being fair game.

      It's not "news" for which Murdoch strives. It's viewers.
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    • Author by husker76 (October 14, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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      You guys on the left are funny!! You have the AP ,NBC,CBC,ABC, plus MSNBC and CNN cheerleading your
      causes and your crying about Fox !! The people don’t buy newspapers and watch you on TV because they don’t trust your opinions anymore?
      Plain and simple your personal views are biased to the left and the people in the middle of the country see it.
      Your just sad your falling off your ivory towers !!! lol The media in this country is dead . Your just like Pravda in the old Soviet Union days !! The only thing that will save you is a Government bailout like S. 673 ?? Good Luck !!

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      • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 11:36 am ET)
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        It's "you're", not "your". If you can replace it with "you are", then it's "you're". It's not that hard to figure out.

        There is no comparable leftwing news source to FoxNews.

        The liberal media bias myth is just that, a myth. It was created about 30 years ago by people on the right as a first step. It never existed.

        And the people in the middle in our nation do see reality, and it ain't pretty for your side, buster.
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      • Author by Mr Denmore (October 15, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
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        I'm an Australian, like Murdoch, but unlike him I still understand the difference between good journalism and good entertainment.

        I cannot for the life of me understand how some on the right in the US say most of the media is "liberal" (what on earth does that mean), so it's ok for Fox to be "conservative".

        Let me tell you something. As a former wire service journalist, I can tell you that the difference between AP and Fox journalists is that AP journalists ARE journalists, not propogandists for their proprietors.

        Your first role as a journalist is to tell the TRUTH. It would seem patently obvious that Fox has a problem with that, preferring instead to spin lies on behalf of shadowy and paranoid people seeking to advance their insane geopolitical and fundamentalist causes.

        Fox is no better than the crudest Soviet-era state-owned propoganda broadcast outlet. That the right in America cannot make the distinction between good journalism and third rate spin says volumes about the state of your political discourse.
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    • Author by commonwealth (October 14, 2009 10:40 am ET)
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      Television news and journalists are fools.

      They should have exposed Fox for the propagandists that they are long ago. Fox has and continues to lie about "liberal bias" in the mainstream media. It doesn't matter how television news and real journalists respond, Fox will always paint them as "liberal biased."

      Real news journalists have been and are being made fools of by Fox.

      Fox relies on the lie that the "mainstream media has a liberal bias." They ignore the truth that real journalists have real ethics in regards to fact checking, and adherence to professional standards.

      Fox uses this lie as license to bias what they broadcast. Fox is propaganda.

      The time has come to expose Fox for the propagandists that they are. Time for real journalists to get a backbone, and do real news journalism.
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    • Author by Concerned Mom (October 14, 2009 12:17 pm ET)
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      No one has to watch Fox News as I choose not to watch the other newtorks. However, America had better wake up or your taxes will be so high you won't be able to afford cable or internet.
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      • Author by DellDolly (October 14, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
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        Yeah, concerned Mom, because isn't a well-known fact that Obama plans on raising taxes on people just barely getting by?

        NOT.

        Actually, the only people who need to worry about any substantial tax increases are people who have plenty of disposable income. And those are the exact people who should bear the burden for getting our nation out of the deficit hole we're in.
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    • Author by markpavlich (October 14, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
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      The media must call Fox news for what it is - a Predator. The asocial (lack of respect) bahavior by the Fox News participants would have forced authorities to put them behind bars or lock them in days gone by. Ironically, it is the "liberal" media which is even allowing them to even participate. Real conservatives would never allow such behavior. We must remember, though, that by established medical standards, 20% of the population are asocial (predators) so we cannot give those predators our validation.
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    • Author by cavs123 (October 14, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
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      The words liberal and conservative are words used to define groups of people in often times an unfair ways.
      Fox News is neither liberal or conservative its just a 24/7 entertainment channel which features some high profile show hosts who specialize in making controversial statements to drive ratings. The people who trust Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck for their news probably read very little or watch to much TV.
      Fox News coverage of general news events is terrible. Just watching their reporters struggle to cover news events is painfull to watch. Fox News coverage lacks any intellectual depth compared to other networks.
      Unfortunately a segment of the population wants the type of news coverage which Fox News provides.
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    • Author by critser (October 14, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
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      i liked this essay a lot. i am working on a new book, called "How to Get Rid of Fox News--and restore democracy to American media"
      Any input on this vital undertaking would be greatly appreciated, but this site seems way in front in Fox matters.
      Greg Critser
      critser@earthlink.net
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    • Author by afroxander (October 14, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
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      In related news: Obama Administration Takes On Fox News
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    • Author by rpierc01 (October 14, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
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      Congratulations to FOX. Keep up the good work to expose and rile the Liberals, their lackeys in the media and the criminals running the White House and Congress. The Left’s hate for the Right validates the need for the 2nd Amendment to protect the 1st. You Liberal boys get ready for a shooting war if you keep pushing to strip real Americans of their rights. Since you wimps don’t own guns, you be easy pickings. Don’t count on the US military to protect you. The majority will be leading the charge against you.
      It is clear that the Left agenda is to enslave the masses with Cap & Trade, Government Healthcare and dozens of other acts that clearly violate the Construction. You boys might want to read it. It’s full of good information. I hear the you whiners bad- mouth insurance companies, banks, Wall Street and just about any entity that is in business to make a profit. You don’t like insurance companies, then open your own. You don’t the banks, then open your own bank. Hey, quit whining and start your own companies and run them the way you want. I suspect you will be bankrupt in 90 days. You boys couldn’t produce anything but hate. Now, if hate sells you’ll be millionaires. Oops, now every underachiever will hate you.
      Last words and mark them. There are still a lot Thomas Jefffersons, George Pattons, John Waynes and Oliver Norths in America. They are not going to stand still for Liberals stealing their Constitution rights. There will be bloodshed.
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      • Author by webprogrammer (October 15, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
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        Conservatives are the only people who think conservatives are the only people with guns. Conservatives are just the only people who are irresponsible with weapons. As for the chance of a revolution, consider this. The bravest conservative, the epitome of conservative courage, is someone who sneaks into a church, shoots an unarmed man in a house of peace and worship where he knows he will be the only one who's armed, and then runs away from the consequences of his actions. This is the caliber of people conservatives hail as heroes. Good luck with your little revolution.
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    • Author by Farzan (October 14, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
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      Well said and documented expose of Fox. They absolutely need to be treated like an opposition party. Forget about “there are independents” in the viewership. They are all hard Rightwing.
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    • Author by HotWings (October 15, 2009 3:05 am ET)
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      The hypocrisy of Media Matters is amazing. MSNBC was the Opposition Party of the White House when President Bush was President. Did Media Matters ever object to that? No. Did Media Matters object when MSNBC called President Bush a monkey, or a fascist, or an idiot? No. And now that Obama is President, MSNBC is now a cheerleader for the President. A "partisan embrace" if you will. Does Media Matters object to that? No.
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    • Author by chefacree@aol.com (October 15, 2009 10:13 am ET)
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      Without a doubt Fox is not a news org. I have tried to listen to them in the past but anymore its all Obama all the time and its all negitive. They are a really slezy and dishonest to the point of knowing reporting false information. Misquoting facts to suit their agenda.
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    • Author by you people can't be serious (October 15, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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      I for one am quite grateful for Fox News. During the recent presidential campaign I was horrified that the news channels I had watched faithfully for years (specifically NBC) were so unabashedly biased towards Obama and all things liberal. It was an eye opener. I felt betrayed and embarrassed that I ever listened to a word they said. Ditto for the biggest newspaper in my state. I have learned not to take everything I am told at face value. I check the facts. When the truth is revealed about the underhanded, illegal, or radically progressive behavior of so many in the House, Senate and White House on such a regular basis, I find it hard to believe that the main stream media doesn't even raise an eyebrow. Thank God (yes, I said "God") that there is a voice in the media that speaks to the conservatives (there are a lot of us) and speaks the truth. The truth is what will save our country, not the spin, smoke-and-mirrors, and blatant cover ups of the main stream media. And since the promise of government transparency has been proven false, we need eyes to see through the ever-thickening wall of deceit that has been forming for longer than we can imagine. I believe in our Constitution, I trust that our founders had a great vision. And I think that anyone who wants to systematically dismantle this country and take away rights and freedoms should take their agenda elsewhere. There is no place for it in America. Love it or leave it. Or at least get out of the way.
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    • Author by you people can't be serious (October 15, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
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      Interesting that this entire article does not contain a single factual account of a direct lie told by Fox or any of its pundits or media figures. You cannot definitively state that the "death panel" is not a truth unless you have read the legislation that is moving through now, behind closed doors. Even then, you cannot prove that it was removed. Lack of transparency, excessive legislation and haste will make any of that argument impossible to prove. So it was a good choice of fill for your article. It was, if you will, liberal propaganda.

      Also, you may want to credit Hillary Clinton with the new found interest in speaking out against government, not only Fox News. And I quote, "I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration."

      Was that only a directive to liberals? I guess not, because she also said, "We are Americans, We have the right to participate and debate any administration. "

      Personally, I don't need the advice of the media, or the permission of a politician to speak out against violations of my beliefs, my freedoms and my future. Last time I checked I still had the right to say that. Maybe I had better check again.

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    • Author by sara1954 (October 15, 2009 1:37 pm ET)
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      I just want my free money from Bamma
      My free healthcare
      My welfare check
      My subsidized housing
      My fake voter registration
      Everything I can get for free and sit home and watch goverment TV.
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    • Author by you people can't be serious (October 15, 2009 3:03 pm ET)
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      Would you like to take another stab at proving there has been no talk of "death panels" in healthcare reform?

      Obama's economics adviser Robert Reich said this: And by the way, we are going to have to, if you are very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive. So we're going to let you die.

      If only the conservative news outlets weren't so busy exposing the truth, maybe they would have more time to disprove all of the falsehoods being reported by the lame stream media.
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