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Who's behind the right's base closure smear?

December 17, 2009 2:37 pm ET

The right-wing media are accusing the Obama administration of playing politics with national security. But by using a trumped-up allegation peddled by a discredited former McCain aide to smear the White House, Obama's critics are guilty of the politicization of the military they claim to denounce.

The conservatives allege that, in order to secure Democratic Sen. Ben Nelson's support for health care reform, the White House has threatened to close an Air Force base in Nebraska unless he falls in line. The allegation is impossible to believe, though right-wing media figures have -- with varying degrees of success -- pretended to do so.

Why is it impossible to believe?

Well, first, it comes from deeply dishonest conservative bloggers like Michael Goldfarb, the McCain campaign operative whose previous claim to fame was one of the most ludicrous television appearances ever by a campaign spokesperson.

Second, the sourcing is beyond sketchy -- anonymous and vaguely-described and impossible to either confirm or disprove.

Third, the target of the alleged threat: To the extent the White House has taken an aggressive stance toward Democratic members of Congress, conservatives like Nelson have not been known to be the recipients of pressure.

Fourth, Nelson's office -- the alleged target of the threat -- has firmly denied the allegation, as has the White House.

And finally: If the White House wanted to put pressure on Nelson, threatening to, as Goldfarb put it, "put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list" is just about the least effective way they could do so. See, BRAC -- the Base Realignment and Closure process -- just doesn't work that way. BRAC makes it extremely difficult for political considerations to influence base closure decisions. As the conservative Heritage Foundation notes, "Realignment and closure decisions are not made arbitrarily. The Pentagon, Congress, and the BRAC commission adhere to a predetermined set of criteria to guide them through the process." An independent commission makes closure recommendations, which Congress has an opportunity to reject. The process is lengthy, high-profile, and defined by built-in mechanisms that prevent just the kind of meddling the conservatives are alleging. And BRAC won't even make closure decisions for several more years.

So the alleged threat would take a long time to execute, would have a low probability of success, and, if found out, would make the White House look far worse than would much easier and immediate forms of pressure. It would be about as effective as threatening to put a hex on Nelson's dog. It just isn't plausible.

And yet 20 Republican senators are now calling for an investigation into this obviously bogus charge (though one of them, Nelson's fellow Nebraskan Mike Johanns, reportedly admits he doesn't believe the allegation.) So how did we get here?

Tuesday morning, conservative writer Matt Lewis wrote on his Twitter feed, "Hearing Ben Nelson has been threatened with closing his air force base" over Nelson's slowness to embrace health care reform. Lewis provided no details, and that's the last he wrote about the subject. Odd -- if Lewis really believed there was anything to this story, you'd think he'd want to take credit for breaking it (something he is not generally bashful about doing).

Three hours later, RedState blogger Dan Perrin claimed:

The White House and Democratic Leadership in the Senate has told Senator Nelson they will close every military base in Nebraska -- a threat that is not credible, really -- but they have also offered Senator Nelson between $300 million to $500 million in earmarks, according to key hill health care operatives.

And that's the last Perrin wrote about this allegation -- perhaps because he acknowledged the threat is "not credible."

Which brings us to Michael Goldfarb, Weekly Standard blogger and former McCain operative. Two hours after Perrin acknowledged the lack of credibility of the alleged threat, Goldfarb began pushing it:

According to a Senate aide, the White House is now threatening to put Nebraska's Offutt Air Force Base on the BRAC list if Nelson doesn't fall into line.

Notice that Goldfarb attributed the claim to "a Senate aide," without providing the most basic possible information: Which political party does the aide belong to? Given that the allegation would appear more credible coming from a Democratic aide, we can assume from Goldfarb's wording that his source was a GOP staffer. How is this presumably Republican staffer in a position to know about a threat the Democratic White House made to a Democratic senator? Goldfarb doesn't provide any indication.

Now take a look at the "quotes" from Goldfarb's "source":

As our source put it, this is a "naked effort by Rahm Emanuel and the White House to extort Nelson's vote." They are "threatening to close a base vital to national security for what?" asked the Senate staffer.

Sure sounds like a Republican, doesn't it? By refusing to reveal the staffer's political orientation, Goldfarb was intentionally obscuring information that would make the report less credible. That's a pretty dishonest maneuver that itself undermines his claims.

Goldfarb closed by being the first to invoke the specter of "this administration playing politics with our national security":

STRATCOM [United States Strategic Command] was located in the middle of the country for strategic reasons. Its closure would be a massive blow to the economy of the state of Nebraska, but it would also be another example of this administration playing politics with our national security.

Of course, the first part of that excerpt is exactly why such a threat is so unlikely. As for the second part: Making obviously false allegations against the White House in order to portray them as "playing politics with our national security" is, itself, "playing politics with our national security."

Yesterday, even as I was explaining the glaring flaws in Goldfarb's claim on Media Matters' County Fair blog, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and several conservative bloggers began pushing it. Beck suggested the White House's alleged threat constitutes "high crimes." Hannity read Goldfarb's blog post nearly word-for-word, echoing the "playing politics" line. Limbaugh pushed the allegation, too, but accidentally undermined it by saying "the next convening of a base closing commission is 2013." Really? We're supposed to believe the White House is threatening Nelson with something that wouldn't happen for four years -- at a time when Barack Obama may not even be in office any more?

And Goldfarb wasn't done yet. He appeared on Beck's radio show to announce: "As I understand it, Rahm Emanuel delivered a message to the Senate leadership that if Nelson did not get behind this, Offutt Air Force base would find itself on the next round of BRAC closures."

But by the time Goldfarb went on Beck's television show later in the day, he was busy retracting the claim that Emanuel was involved. Then Goldfarb acknowledged that "it's actually not a very credible threat" to shut down the base, given that the BRAC process won't start again for several years:

GOLDFARB: Look, and as my source told me -- he said, "Look, this was clearly done by somebody who didn't understand the BRAC process." It's actually not a very credible threat. The BRAC process won't begin again until 2012, 2013, but clearly they wanted to exert some pressure. ... [T]he sort of the funny thing here is this is not a very credible threat they've made to Nelson.

Well, that's pretty hard to believe. See, Goldfarb earlier claimed his source told him the threat came from Rahm Emanuel, who -- having served as a senior staffer in a previous presidential administration and as a member of the leadership in the House of Representatives, in addition to currently being White House chief of staff -- clearly does understand the BRAC process. Now Goldfarb claims his source told him it was done by someone who doesn't understand BRAC.

And if Goldfarb's source really did tell him the threat was made by someone who doesn't understand BRAC, and if Goldfarb really did understand it wasn't a "credible threat," why did he leave that information out of his blog post? The simplest explanation is that Goldfarb (and his source, if his source even exists) made all of this up, not having the first clue about the BRAC process. And once the absurdity of the claim was pointed out, he tried to save face by changing his account of what his "source" told him.

That would be consistent with Goldfarb's history of trying to paper over his obvious whoppers, by the way. Here's Goldfarb vouching for his credibility last night:

BECK: People will say you're a political hack. Why should we believe a guy who was a communications director for the McCain campaign?

GOLDFARB: Oh, I got a perfect track record. You know, I've never made up a story before. I hope that'll be enough.

But that's not true. Not even close.

During Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor's confirmation hearings, Goldfarb claimed that when she was a student at Princeton, Sotomayor was allowed to teach her own class and grade her own work:

GOLDFARB: I went to Princeton but somehow I never got to teach my own class, or grade my own work. One wonders how Sotomayor judged her work in that class, and whether the grade helped or hindered her efforts to graduate with honors.

Goldfarb was referring to a 1974 Princeton press release about a seminar Sotomayor and two other students initiated.

But the press release didn't say Sotomayor taught the class -- to the contrary, it specifically said "[t]he seminar is being taught by Dr. Peter E. Winn, Assistant Professor of History and a specialist in Latin American affairs." And it didn't say Sotomayor got to grade her own work. The seminar also made clear that there was nothing unique about it; it had been "offered twice before." According to the release, Sotomayor and the other students "did what scores of other Princeton Students have been able to do for the past six years: they initiated their own seminar."

Goldfarb, in other words, made up the claim that Sotomayor taught her own class. He made up the claim that she graded her own work. He made up the claim that this was the result of preferential treatment.

And when I caught him doing so, and several others ridiculed Goldfarb for his obvious falsehood, did he retract his bogus claims? No. Instead, a few days later, Goldfarb added an update to his post -- an update that didn't retract the falsehoods but instead quoted a National Review writer implying, as Goldfarb claimed, that Sotomayor graded herself. The update -- much like Goldfarb's current attempts to make it look like he knew all along that the BRAC threat is implausible -- was a transparent effort to paper over his mistake rather than admit to it.

Then, two weeks later, he completely rewrote history, pretending that his claims about Sotomayor had been accurate and that "the left was outraged that anyone would suggest Sotomayor had benefited from affirmative action." That isn't what happened. What happened was that Goldfarb lied, was caught doing so, and refused to admit to having made false claims.

That's Michael Goldfarb's "perfect track record." That's the person responsible for the not-remotely-credible (and ever-shifting) claims about Rahm Emanuel and the White House threatening Ben Nelson. And that's the basis on which Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and 20 Republican senators are throwing around phrases like "high crimes" and calling for investigations: the ludicrous and contradictory claims of a deeply dishonest former McCain operative.

Jamison Foser is a Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, a progressive media watchdog and research and information center based in Washington, D.C. Foser also contributes to County Fair, a media blog featuring links to progressive media criticism from around the Web, as well as original commentary. You can follow him on Twitter and Facebook or sign up to receive his columns by email.

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    • Author by prtsimmons (December 17, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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      What's all this talk of facts, research, and sources? Goldfarb, Beck, etc., aren't journalists, they are serial misinformers; facts would only be a hindrance.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (December 18, 2009 8:08 am ET)
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        Real journalism has such a liberal bias anyway...

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        ...Just as the TRUTH does.
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      • Author by waite4764 (December 18, 2009 8:55 am ET)
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        I vote for Beck to de-throne Hannity as misinformer of the year. This guy is way over the top. However, I do think the Limbaugh has taken a close second to Beck. Sorry Hannity, you have slipped to third.
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    • Author by Prospect (December 17, 2009 3:00 pm ET)
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      Being a military member active duty.. I knew this story was bogus as soon as I heard it.

      Just another example of how far and low the Conversatives will go, to undermine not only the administration, but the whole progressive moment as well. It's ridiculous how something so blatantly false could even be considered as news, but since I haven't got a chance to catch Fox News today, I'll watch.. and i'm pretty sure I'll see this as one of their top stories.
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      • Author by angels4light (December 17, 2009 11:25 pm ET)
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        Prospect, I think it is not "conservatives", since not all "conservatives" are self-identified Republicans, any more than all "liberals" are self-identified members of the Democratic party. I think it is more accurately the rabble-rousers and in my opinion treasonous members of the media who are more interested in creating chaos and thus ratings than they are rendering opinions based on some reasonable semblance of reality.
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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (December 17, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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      The only thing to say is this guy is just another right wing buffoon.
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      • Author by wzwriter (December 17, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
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        Michael Goldfarb is the buffoon against which other buffoons are measured.
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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (December 17, 2009 4:56 pm ET)
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          This country has got the stupids


          And that's just the way the conservatives like it. The corporations love to have this shadow media--Fox News, el Fathead, Sewage, et al.--spewing out the lies on a daily basis.

          They can always say: "Oh, what are you liberals so upset about, it's just Limbaugh spouting some stuff. It's just some gargabe on Fox." They can appear to scoff at it while actually embracing it. The problem is a certain percentage of the American people are so stupid they actually believe this crap. The corporations, and the corporate media love it, but it's very dangerous to democracy.
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          • Author by Unreality (December 18, 2009 12:06 am ET)
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            I, too, thought this was just a steaming pile of stupid.

            Then I read the letter from 20 Republican Senators seeking hearings on the matter. Exhibiting this level of stupidity can only be done if they have big money backing their activities. Smart money would never follow someone who couldn't be bought.

            We need publicly funded elections because it's too cheap to buy congress.
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    • Author by only_myschly3567 (December 17, 2009 4:42 pm ET)
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      Even after finding a pet project of discussing with a conservative on Youtube today who just fulfilled every possible conservative stereotype (except racism, but he weighed that up by linking The Young Turks to the Communist party to SEIU/ACORN), I'm still shocked to find how stupid and devoid of facts their reality is...

      It's truly fascinating.
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    • Author by DellDolly (December 17, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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      It's like the John Kerry lies about his military record.

      Those on the right KNEW that any fair comparison between Kerry's record and Bush's military history would make Bush look like Benedict Arnold, and they couldn't allow that to happen, since one of Bush's 'strengths' were his ties to a strong and threatening military. So they made up multiple lies about Kerry's record in the service in order to paint him as a coward and a fool and a cheat.

      The right can't win a fair fight when it comes to healthcare reform, so they're throwing everything including the kitchen sink to try to distract us from the fact that their arguments against healthcare reform are all bogus!

      And yeah, I too found it very offensive that he tried to mislead uninformed viewers of Beck's show that he has a history of honesty and sincerity!
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    • Author by jms (December 17, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
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      This white house is everything that was hated about the last one.
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      • Author by bintx (December 17, 2009 5:33 pm ET)
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        No, it isn't.

        If you are referring to this phony story . . . it's a lie. The scenario is completely false. BRAC criteria would prevent anything like this from ever happening.

        If you are referring to the health care debacle . . . put the blame where it belongs at the moment. The Senate. The President, contrary to the belief fostered by the previous administration is NOT the "boss" of Congress. The Presidential duties do not include writing law. The President, as head of the executive branch, PROPOSES policy. It is up to Congress, a separate but co-equal branch, to legislate. The Senate hogtied itself years ago with their extra-Constitutional 60 vote rule.

        I disagree with several things that the Obama administration has done, but the phony crap which is being pushed by Fox, hate talk radio and the GOP is just ridiculous.
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        • Author by jms (December 17, 2009 10:16 pm ET)
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          Ok, that is now my response to every negative story regarding a conservative.....nope, it's a lie, it's phony....because i said so, so there.
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          • Author by mrhebert74 (December 17, 2009 10:32 pm ET)
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            I, too, thought that "BRAC criteria would prevent anything like this from ever happening" meant "because I said so." No I didn't. I thought it meant "BRAC criteria would prevent anything like this from ever happening, and that's why I know this story is a lie. That, and the other copious documentation provided above by Foser, which you probably didn't read."
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            • Author by jms (December 17, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
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              Do you mean the BRAC that is led by the Pentagon (headed by Obama appointees), Congress (D majorities) and the commission (would be Obama appointed)? That one? OH, OK!!!!
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              • Author by mrhebert74 (December 17, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
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                Right. Ten Democrats and the Pentagon officials will, in 2013, remember that Obama intructed them four years previously to make sure to ignore the strategic importance of Nebraska military bases and close them because Senator Nelson wouldn't play along. Oh, okay.

                No, I think you can stop wetting your bed about Obama's nefarious abuses of power.
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                • Author by jms (December 18, 2009 8:27 am ET)
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                  First you said it was the BRAC criteria which you were proven wrong. Then you said it wouldn't be until 2013, which is both naive and misses the point: (Nelson's constituents will be calling him NOW). You should have just went to bed and dreamed your ideological dreams.
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                  • Author by mrhebert74 (December 18, 2009 9:38 am ET)
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                    I didn't say it was the BRAC criteria. That was bintx. What "proved" me wrong? I can only assume it's your nutball contention that Obama will be in total control of the BRAC decisions. Nice try, by the way, on trying to both claim that you proved me wrong and that when I dismantled your paranoid fantasy, oops I mean "proof," that was missing the point. Wrong. Pointing out how stupid your ideas are was the point. Except for you. For you the point is trying to distract from how embarrassing it is to lack reason.
                    You started out with a ridiculous complaint about this administration with zero arguments in support. Then when bintx owned you (with arguments), you pretended he had none. When I owned you about that, you started in with the bedwetting that is now being pointed out for a second time. And here we are with you being owned about your pathetic "look over there" response.
                    I don't know if you'll try out some more third-grade playground "debate" tactics, but I just want to let you know that I'm done here, since you have failed to contribute anything. Maybe some other moonbat will take an interest, but as for me, I feel like the cat who is bored with batting the mouse around. Good day.
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                    • Author by bintx (December 18, 2009 9:43 am ET)
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                      Thanks . . . but I'm a she! LOL!

                      Just blows me away that people don't research the CRAP they are shoveled on Fox and hate talk radio. They just buy it as "conservative" (it's not) and condemn ANYONE who disagrees.
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                      • Author by mrhebert74 (December 18, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
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                        Sorry bintx; I guess my bias is showing. The APA style guide would be so disappointed.
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                  • Author by bintx (December 18, 2009 9:39 am ET)
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                    I'm a conservative, jms. Based upon your posts here, you are one of those phony conservatives who believes that by listening to and believing the completely NON-CONSERVATIVE crap shoveled by the folks on Fox and hate talk radio that you, too, are a conservative. Guess what? It doesn't, just makes you an under informed GROUPIE.

                    BRAC is a non-partisan group/procedure, idiot. It was DESIGNED specifically to prevent the false scenario which has been presented in this LIE. The next BRAC is not scheduled until 2013.

                    In the last round of BRAC, our local AF base was essentially on the chopping block . . . our community voted over 80% for GWB in 2004 and the BRAC committee was made up of mostly GWB appointees. We escaped closure by the skin of our teeth . . . we did lose some of our jobs. Did GWB punish us? If so, why? Our community overwhelmingly helped put his sorry, non-conservative backside back in office.

                    Try learning something before you make STUPID remarks.
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                    • Author by jms (December 18, 2009 10:19 am ET)
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                      In the same post you say the BRAC is non-partisan and then you say it is made up of presidential appointees, and you have the nerve to call me stupid and an idiot. You clearly lack common sense if you believe your post. I have seen your posts on here. You are not a conservative. Nowhere near it. And your blanket statements about Fox and talk radio are childish. Some elements of both are non-conservative but certainly not all.
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                      • Author by bintx (December 18, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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                        It is a NON-PARTISAN procedure, jms. Just because people are APPOINTED by a President, doesn't mean that the procedure is PARTISAN. See, some people can actually think beyond a ridiculous political club affiliation. BTW, the current BRAC is made up of GWB appointees.

                        I will stand by my comments that you are stupid, an idiot and not a conservative.

                        NOTHING on Fox and hate talk radio represent true conservatism. If you believe they do, you are no conservative, just a GROUPIE.
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                      • Author by bintx (December 18, 2009 10:45 am ET)
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                        Oh, and YES, I am a conservative. You are basing your opinion of me upon the garbage and hate you are listening to on Fox and hate talk radio. Those folks are not conservative, jms. I would refer you to research regarding the psychological/political phenomenon known as "right wing authoritarianism." From your posts, I'd say that would describe you more accurately than "conservatism." Two different things, entirely.
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                        • Author by Übermensch (December 18, 2009 10:58 am ET)
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                          We were notified about the BRAC in our area years ago. and as recently as two years ago got an updated letter stating that because of BRAC, our little neck-of-the-woods would be growing exponentially.

                          People need to STFU when it comes to things their little minds can't handle or even fathom.
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                        • Author by jms (December 18, 2009 11:58 am ET)
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                          No, I am forming my opinion of you based on your posts. I am speaking of conservatism in a political context, not religion. I really don't care about your religious views. They have no place in politics, which is what I am here to discuss.
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                      • Author by DellDolly (December 18, 2009 10:50 am ET)
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                        The decision-making is non-partisan.

                        There's no ability to let personal feelings into it. It's fact-based, and there are specific criteria that have to be followed to determine if a base should be on the list in the first place. Those criteria don't include "the President is mad at a Senator"!

                        And if you think that no conservative objects to conservative misinformation, you're sadly mistaken. Not everyone lacks a moral compass.

                        This ridiculous base closure smear has been debunked. The President can't nominate a base for closure. They're chosen based upon a strict criteria, and the plan was developed to prevent any politics from contaminating the process.

                        But what we've seen here is that it is people from the right side of the aisle who are contaminating this issue with politics. They are smearing Obama because they can't fight him with factual information - I bet they thought they could maybe tee off the Senator and/or his constituents with this smear, or maybe it was just to distract us.

                        Whoever came up with this smear didn't have the common sense and education to know that it wouldn't be possible for Obama to threaten to put any base on the list, so it clearly wasn't Rahm Emmanuel or anyone else who's smart.

                        And despite the thorough debunking, you still believe it. Guess where that places you on the scale of intelligence? Not too very high up that scale.
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                  • Author by edgewaterprog (December 18, 2009 9:45 am ET)
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                    This BRAC system was established to prevent politics from interferring with the process of streamlining the military.

                    The committee is bipartisan and is not controlled by either party regardless of who is in power in the Executive or Legislative branches at the time.

                    So we have gone from the conservatives claiming that the military was completely independent of undo influence, under the Bush Administration, to being overly influenced by the Obama Administration. Funny how that works?
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                    • Author by DellDolly (December 18, 2009 10:12 pm ET)
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                      Good point.

                      If one ever needs an example of hypocrisy, we only need to look to any number of actions from those on the right side of the aisle.
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              • Author by jeff191 (December 18, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
                   
                you have no conception of how civilian employees in govt and the pentagon work. if you did you would see that your conspiracy theories about Obama appointees, fall flat on their face int he light of reality
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (December 17, 2009 10:28 pm ET)
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        This white house is everything that was hated about the last one.

        Bit of a lackluster effort, even for a wingnut. Not even one thinly-stretched, inappropriate example basesd on a falsehood?
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    • Author by Unreality (December 17, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
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      How can we get 20 Republican Senators to sign up for something that's real?

      I suppose the reasoning is that this boxes Nelson's vote. If he agrees to vote yes there is a hidden quid pro quo. If he votes no we can anticipate the closing of Offutt, which of course, will never occur.

      This whole rumor is a red herring. I lived in a community with a Naval Air Station complete with aircraft carriers closed by BRAC process in late 90s that began many years earlier. That entire facility is still dormant over 13 years later. It's as fast moving as tectonic plate shift.
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      • Author by BurceCarson2008 (December 18, 2009 2:35 am ET)
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        I seem to remember something about a Cheney assassination ring, Olbermann, Maddow and many others ran with the story. The guy pushing that story had even less credibility then Goldfarb, yet, we got no retraction from Olbermann. Again, none of these pundits have a particular concern for facts, whether they be on the right or left.

        As a side note, the way Limbaugh referenced it, he added the 2013 bit as another fact - in the context of questioning the assertion by Goldfarb. Of course, that context is missing here, because Media Matters pushes a political line and is an openly partisan organization.
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        • Author by DellDolly (December 18, 2009 10:14 pm ET)
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          So, on other previous websites you've posted on, you could make accusations like this without links?

          Not on this one, buddy.

          Try again.

          MMFA is partisan against conservative misinformation in the media. Everyone should be. Misinformation doesn't do any of us Americans any good!
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          • Author by BurceCarson2008 (December 19, 2009 6:10 am ET)
               
            MMFA is partisan yes, and they give mis-information from the left a free ride most of the time. But by your logic, mis-information from the left does us a lot of good, otherwise why would focusing on "conservative" mis-information be a wise choice?

            And no, I cannot provide you a link, because only two places on earth slavishly catalog Rush Limbaugh. MMFA didn't provide that context. That leaves Rush Limbaugh's site, which doesn't have a transcript out-take of that portion. If you really like, you could download the pod-cast from for free on line from various sites (if you catch my drift) but outside of that you will believe what media matters tells you to, I suppose.
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          • Author by BurceCarson2008 (December 19, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
               
            MMFA is partisan yes, and they give mis-information from the left a free ride most of the time. But by your logic, mis-information from the left does us a lot of good, otherwise why would focusing on "conservative" mis-information be a wise choice?

            And no, I cannot provide you a link, because only two places on earth slavishly catalog Rush Limbaugh. MMFA didn't provide that context. That leaves Rush Limbaugh's site, which doesn't have a transcript out-take of that portion. If you really like, you could download the pod-cast from for free on line from various sites but outside of that you will believe what media matters tells you, I suppose.
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    • Author by Prospect (December 18, 2009 7:16 am ET)
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      the problem with alot of the things conversatives say.. is that they can't be proven nor disproven, so it always looks as though they could potentially be right, or at least in their eyes they could be.

      Even if sensible people know it's completely false.. there is always going to be those people who seek proof. And without proof it might as well be true. They've basically baited Ben Nelson into saying No regardless of how he actually feels, because if he says Yes.. they'll go back to this lie to explain why. And if he says No and nothing happens, then and only then will people know it's a lie.
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    • Author by Armageddon T. Thunderbird (December 18, 2009 8:29 am ET)
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      Outstanding article. What I love is that honesty and logic has shown the world that 20 Republican senators are disloyal Americans. And that Fox "News" is the propaganda arm of their cadre. I am donating to this site to keep their patriotic work going. I don't want to live in a Republican gulag.
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    • Author by NOMORETAX (December 18, 2009 9:29 am ET)
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      Glen Beck made a mistake airing a something done for the administration with almost not prove, like Dan Rather in CBS. However there is no doubt that Glen Beck is right about al radical leftist that are polluting the White House , i.e. Van Jones.
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      • Author by DellDolly (December 18, 2009 10:15 pm ET)
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        Next time, try English.
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (December 18, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
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        radical leftist that are polluting the White House , i.e. Van Jones.


        Not that it's the greatest of your problems, but I think you want "e.g," unless Van Jones is the only leftist polluting the White House.
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    • Author by SLRTX (December 18, 2009 9:48 am ET)
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      No wonder McCain lost.

      Goldfarb and Palin.

      Whatta team!
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