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Stenography 101: How the press let Palin and Cheney rig the system

January 12, 2010 5:45 am ET

Not content with its lapdog coverage of President Bush over the past decade, the Beltway press has adopted a new, super-soft way to deal with Bush's former vice president, Dick Cheney, as well as GOP media star Sarah Palin. Journalists have set aside what had been decades' worth of guidelines and embraced special new rules for how Cheney and Palin get treated.

In a word, it's stenography.

That's how too many scribes have covered Cheney and Palin in recent months, allowing them to dispense tightly controlled pieces of information, which journalists then trumpet as breaking news. And yes, the trend is unprecedented in modern day American politics.

It's actually a two-fer. First, it's unprecedented because the Beltway press has never showered attention on political losers, such as Cheney and Palin. Meaning, the press has never cared what a former VP had to say about current events right after leaving the White House (think: Dan Quayle), or what a failed VP candidate had to say just months after losing in a landslide (think: Geraldine Ferraro). Traditionally, pundits and reporters disdain political losers (think: Mike Dukakis). But for Cheney and Palin, the rules have been generously reworked.

The second oddity is that journalists now allow Cheney and Palin to completely dictate the media ground rules and afford them the chance to have one-way relationships with the press. Palin, for instance, perhaps still bruising from her woeful 2008 media performances, still hasn't allowed herself to be interviewed by a single independent political journalist since she launched her book in November. Instead, she mostly communicates with the mainstream media via Facebook. And now that she's signed on to join the Fox News staff, the chances of Palin ever speaking with the serious press seem to be less than zero. That lack of openness stacks the deck and leads to dreadful bouts of stenography; of literally recording what controversial Republicans say, and nothing more.

Of course, the Cheney brand of stenography has been trademarked by the news crew at Politico, and recently reached its unfortunate, albeit predictable, crescendo when the outlet simply reprinted Cheney's latest Obama-hating "statement" (read: press release) in the wake of the failed terrorist attack aboard the Northwest Airlines flight to Detroit on Christmas Day. What happened was that following the botched attack, either Cheney reached out and provided Politico with an exclusive statement, or Politico contacted Cheney asking for one. (It's not clear who contacted whom. And yes, journalistically, it matters.)

Then Politico, rather than incorporating some of Cheney's comments in an actual news article about the political ramifications of the attempted terror strike, and rather than contacting Cheney for an actual interview where reporters could flesh out his comments with follow-up questions, simply reproduced Cheney's wildly inaccurate, and inflammatory, Obama's-making-us-less-safe "statement," in full. All 660 words of it.

The stenography became so unseemly that MSNBC's Chris Matthews even called Politico out:

To make matters worse, when asked to defend Politico's Cheney-friendly stenography, editor John Harris mounted a completely illogical defense and refused to address the rather obvious complaints about the news outlet's outlandish practice of simply acting as a loving, unwavering conduit for Cheney. "Trying to get newsworthy people to say interesting things is part of what we do," was how, in the wake of the Cheney kerfuffle, Harris explained Politico to blogger Greg Sargent. Well, of course. Nobody objects to the pursuit of interesting quotes. That's what good journalists do. But they don't turn around and simply print the quotes as gospel, devoid of any context. Especially when the "interesting things" that "newsworthy people" actually consist of an avalanche of partisan lies.

The truth is, Politico used to at least send reporters over to Cheney's Virginia office in order to perform their stenography in person. Following a sit-down Q&A, this was the Politico lede from Feb. 9, 2009, under the doomsday headline: "Cheney warns of new attacks":

Former Vice President Dick Cheney warned that there is a "high probability" that terrorists will attempt a catastrophic nuclear or biological attack in coming years, and said he fears the Obama administration's policies will make it more likely the attempt will succeed [emphasis added].

That's right, Obama's "policies," which at the time were two weeks old, were endangering America and making it susceptible to nuclear attack. (Cheney doesn't really do subtleties.) On its face, the fearmongering claims were preposterous. But Politico's Mike Allen, Jim VandeHei, and John Harris played it straight. Worse, they played it as big, from-his-lips-to-our-ears news.

And let's not lose sight of just how extraordinary it was for Allen/VandeHei/Harris to even care what Cheney had to say in early February of 2009, because I can't stress enough how completely unprecedented it is for any major Beltway news outlet to turn to a dislodged vice president as a partisan newsmaker less than one month after he left office. And for Cheney to be the object of Politico's newsroom desire last February was even more bizarre since the Republican had just completed his stint as arguably the most unpopular politician in modern day White House politics. (Somewhere Richard Nixon was smiling.)

That is not an exaggeration. According to a CBS/New York Times poll at the time of the Cheney's White House departure, his job approval rating stood at a how-is-that-possible 13 percent. Yet despite his historically poor standing with the public, and despite the fact that his party had just been trounced in an electoral landslide, and despite the fact that former VPs were never considered to be newsworthy just two weeks after they packed their White House bags, there was the Politico brain trust in February 2009, sitting at Cheney's knee ("Suddenly a man of leisure ... his own mood was relaxed, even loquacious") and treating him like he was still vice president -- treating him like he was a popular vice president. Treating Cheney like a man with all the answers.

For Palin, it hasn't just been Politico's staff that's adopted the unfortunate stenography approach to covering the failed VP candidate. The truth is that since the launch of her book last November, Palin has refused to sit down with a single serious, independent reporter. Instead, she's stuck close to lifestyle interviews (i.e. Oprah and Barbara Walters) as well as taking questions from her professional right-wing media enablers.

Can you imagine the media caterwauling if, for instance, Hillary Clinton published a book and then refused to sit down with a single nonpartisan cable TV host, radio talker, or political reporter from a major newspaper or magazine? If Clinton roped off the press while she only did interviews with The Nation, Rachel Maddow, and Air America? The Beltway press would go berserk mocking Clinton for her timidity. But Palin completely snubbed the D.C. press corps, and rather than calling her out, journalists rewarded her with probably tens of millions of dollars in free book publicity. (Not that most Americans even cared about her book launch.)

Worse, Palin's refusal to engage directly with the press has, at times, led to confusion about what she did and did not say. The confusion may be purposeful on her part, but it hinders public debate and makes precise journalism nearly impossible. That trend was famously highlighted after Palin posted on Facebook her claim that proposed Democratic health care reform would mean bureaucratic "death panels" would ultimately decide whether Americans would live or die. (Palin specifically referenced her parents and her son as possible "death panel" targets.) Of course, the claim was thoroughly debunked and eventually named "Lie of the Year." In response to that dubious achievement, Palin returned to Facebook and claimed people had misunderstood her original "death panels" reference. It was an explanation some journalists echoed before Media Matters then debunked that as well.

But guess what? If Palin, like virtually every other politician on the planet, agreed to talk to real reporters on occasion, that kind of "confusion" would quickly be solved. Rather, Palin hides from the press. And instead of punishing her for her timidity, journalists act as dutiful stenographers by typing up Palin's online postings -- which she may or may not write herself -- and treating them as news.

From a journalism perspective, the whole spectacle has been embarrassing to watch. As David Weigel at The Washington Independent noted, "The media's indulgence of Palin's strategy -- which often results in pure stenography of press releases that may or may not have been written by her -- is ridiculous, bordering on pathetic."

And Weigel's right. Those Facebook postings are nothing more than modern-day press releases, yet they're treated as news. In the not-so-distant past, newsroom trash cans (both physical and email) were filled with politicians' press releases, tossed aside by dismissive scribes who would never dream of lowering themselves to regurgitating quotes typed up on some hand-out. Media elites didn't waste their time with press releases.

First of all, it's considered an embarrassment and a public acknowledgment that journalists don't have any juice; that they don't have real access to important people. Second, typed-up statements don't lend themselves to context or understanding. But for covering Palin, regurgitating press releases has suddenly become the accepted norm.

From a recent Wall Street Journal news article:

The White House is fending off charges from Republicans, who suggest the administration should have turned over Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab to military custody and declared him an "enemy combatant."

Sarah Palin, former GOP vice presidential candidate, said in a Facebook message that Abdulmutallab is "not just another criminal defendant. It simply makes no sense to treat an al Qaeda-trained operative willing to die in the course of massacring hundreds of people as a common criminal." [emphasis added]

That's just nuts. If Palin steadfastly refuses to engage with journalists and insists on hiding behind her Facebook page, there's simply no reason reporters should give online press releases from a failed VP candidate (and half-term governor) the slightest bit of attention.

Indeed, if members of the Beltway press corps have any self-respect left, they'd call off the stenography sessions and get back to practicing real journalism.

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    • Author by MickD (January 12, 2010 8:21 am ET)
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      This pretty much proves that objective journalism is dead. The name of the game is circulation numbers, website hits, ratings points. They know that Simple Sarah is gold for those types of upticks. The publishers, the editors, give the stand down sign to the newsroom whenever a Sarah (or a Dick) rears their ugly prose. "Print it, it's the 'other side's perspective', maybe a teabagger will buy the paper, click the web headline, watch the program."
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      • Author by djansing16067 (January 12, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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        Printing it is fine, but the journalist ought to at least provide some perspective. "former Alaska governor Sarah Palin via Facebook said 'x'. She declined a request by this network/paper/blog for further clarification." That is fine.
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        • Author by Unreality (January 13, 2010 1:32 am ET)
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          Sorry, dj, that's merely a lame press release that wouldn't get you a job. In a '70s J-school class we would have been required to get some contrasting quote, better yet, a live shot.

          ANCHOR: Today President Nixon said,
          "The US is not sending troops or aircraft across the Cambodian border."
          <CUT TO TV REPORTER>
          (howitzer fires behind him, a half dozen Hueys races by at treetop level headed toward the ridge line, a 2 ship flight of Marine A-4s scream overhead)
          REPORTER: "Just across the top of that ridge line is Cambodia. We're at the forward artillery battery which has been supporting an all day movement of thousands of US troops crossing over that ridge line into Cambodia...." (another two ship of A-4s scream overhead as napalm erupts the other side of the ridge)
          <CUT TO>
          (thousands of US college students gathered in front of mock cemeteries in front of ivy covered college buildings....)

          If I ever doubted if journalism had consequences I put my finger through the hole in a 3/8" steel plate made that week in front of my J-school building.

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      • Author by Marton R (January 13, 2010 1:55 am ET)
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        Objective journalism never existed, there is always a strong subjective component in it. Writing stories, you pick and choose what are considered important topics. I worked for a news organization that always wanted "an American connection." The other one always needed interviews in English.... So stories would go unreported if they failed to have the "US connection." The idea was that otherwise American's would switch off ... and did...
        Reporting, too, as has been amply proven to be subjective (priorities in stzories are often cultural).


        But the problem we are dealing with here is the predominance of hype. Newspapers that used to tell the Great Unwashed to go f* themselves, are now appealing more and more to the lowest common denominator in a dumbed-down-to-bottom society. Now they are competing with millions of bloggers, many of whom are simply tenth rate story telleers and they are often poor reporters.

        There are so many levels to this problem, it would take more space to discuss it. Let me leave with a little note: The pressure under which journalists write.... The ones with comfy fixed jobs are making sure they have the job tomorrow. The freelancers (like myself) often have to cut corners and bend to the payer's rules.... (I try and avoid it, but I do have other sources of income, like editing and translating, and I steer clear of political stuff)...

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      • Author by HardJustice (January 13, 2010 3:00 am ET)
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        <posit>
        In a nutshell, hate sells. And this is what these pundits are peddling. To paraphrase Aaron Sorkin, they're "interested in two things and two things only: making you afraid of it and telling you who's to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections." Or in this case, how you get ratings.

        Society prefers the easy outrage (predicated on baseless propaganda, catchy rhetoric, and turn-key scapegoats) over the hard outrage (predicated on learning the nuances of the flawed and incredibly complex socio-political environment we live in) because the hard outrage requires a tangible, long-term commitment to fix.

        The easy outrage is more like the Ronco Rotisserie: set it and forget it.
        </posit>

        Now pass me my Hot Pocket. American Idol is on.
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    • Author by punkin (January 12, 2010 8:28 am ET)
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      It's all about money and ratings. After the Couric snaffu every reporter (I refuse to call these people "journalist") is hoping to be the one to ask the question that gets the major gaffe answer. When Oprah had Sarah on her show she had a huge jump in viewership - not because we were interested in Palin's life but because we hoped Oprah would rip her a new one and we hoped to see another Couric type response. How disappointing that interview was!!!
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      • Author by HardJustice (January 13, 2010 3:13 am ET)
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        I hadn't considered that - like those who watch NASCAR hoping for a car crash, or watch reality shows to observe contestants' inexorable ousting from the island/house/runway/kitchen. The prurient/schadenfreude factor. I wager there is enough data to support a substantial thesis on this.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 13, 2010 12:09 pm ET)
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        I never thought that about the Oprah interview. She's not exactly known as a tough interviewer and I'm sure Palin made sure they would stick to the topics she wanted to discuss before she agreed to the interview.
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    • Author by Russ139 (January 12, 2010 9:24 am ET)
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      I think this can be called the "Rush Limbaugh Model." Limbaugh proved years ago that one can sit behind the microphone, be accountable to nobody, say anything, and be on 600 radio stations.

      News-By-Fox then took it to the next level, literally "institutionalizing" conservative punditry.

      Now, with the internet, any conservative pundit wanna-be knows exactly what model to follow. Journalism is no longer a standard... it's whatever you want it to be. Finally, these people all sleep well at night, because of their unflinching belief that they are taking the fight to the liberal Mainstreet Media. That's the mission - not journalism.
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      • Author by DianneU (January 13, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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        Mainstream Media? Where can we find that, exactly? When all the news corps are owned by two or three individuals, with strongly conservative views and opinions....where is that Main stream Media? I find it laughable every time someone says those words, because what they are describing- or trying to blame- is something that doesn't exist!!
        Right now, the only media that allows a liberal or other-than-conservative-hatred-spewing view....is MSNBC and Air America. They have about 3 or 4 shows that offer a differing point of view. Hardly Mainstream in my opinion. I love those shows, and I wish there were MANY more of them, to counter the TRUE mainstream media which is extremely conservative.
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    • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 12, 2010 9:30 am ET)
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      First, it's unprecedented because the Beltway press has never showered attention on political losers, such as Cheney and Palin. Meaning, the press has never cared what a former VP had to say about current events right after leaving the White House


      Really?

      What about that failed VP candidate Albert Arnold "Al" Gore?

      I've seen lots-o-bandwidth wasted on his views of current events. Nice try E.
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      • Author by gg (January 12, 2010 9:45 am ET)
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        So you are suggesting the press ignore a Noble Prize winner because he happen to be a former VP. As far as his views on current events they tend to deal with the environment and he has very seldom spoken out on Bush and his policies.
        It seems to me the press hangs on to the every word of Lieberman much more then Gore.
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      • Author by overmars jr. (January 12, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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        Gore gets press for other specific reasons, not because he's running for or in office.
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      • Author by bintx (January 12, 2010 10:35 am ET)
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        Al Gore is in the news because of his work outside of politics. I don't care for Gore and never have, but your ridiculously uninformed post made me laugh out loud.
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      • Author by Philip in London (January 12, 2010 11:01 am ET)
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        In the immediate aftermath of the 2000 election, Gore kept quiet. When eventually he did start making speeches - it wasn't until September 2002 that he started criticising the Bush-Cheney maladministration.

        And whenever he did speak up, he was not given the easy ride that Cheney and Palin are receiving. Many in the media treated anything he said as sour grapes, speculated that he would run again in 2004 (even after he spelt out that he would not) and belittled him. It took a hell of a lot of Bush bungling before the mainstream media started to move on from Gore-bashing.
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      • Author by Ination (January 12, 2010 6:46 pm ET)
           
        Wait, you said failed VP 'candidate'? What?
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      • Author by amento1 (January 13, 2010 12:29 am ET)
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        "What about that failed VP candidate Albert Arnold 'Al' Gore?"

        Mr. Gore was a successful candidate for VP in both 1992 and 1996.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 13, 2010 12:12 pm ET)
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        Not initially though. It took years, an Oscar and a Nobel Prize for the media to start paying attention to him again.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 12, 2010 9:36 am ET)
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      I find Dick Cheney's sudden chattiness and availability very interesting. The man was previously obsessed with secrecy and silence. He never opened or wrote e-mails for fear of being caught on the record. Now, he wants to chat? I appreciate your pointing out how much he is being courted by the media. I had thought it was just me, that I had failed to notice the attention paid to political losers. As to Mrs. Palin, I am really quite angry with the press for paying her any mind after she took to Facebook as her major outlet. Frankly, I don't think she has a real future in politics. Look at her actions. She got to be Governor, she used that to attract the attention of the Party bosses. Once she was the VP candidate, she milked it for all it was worth. But if you look at what she has done since, she is not willing to do the hard work of governing. Why would she want to be President when she can get lots of money and fawning attention by writing books and appearing on Fox Noise for a living. She is very much a Barbie doll. She is more interested in and is better at being a celebrity rather than a lawmaker.
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      • Author by kalentros (January 12, 2010 10:25 am ET)
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        It's only going to get worse now that she's signed with Fixed Noise. Now the rest of the Beltway will be showing video clips of her without having to answer any questions rather than just Facebook postings.

        It's a shame that she uses Facebook for her propagandizing. Facebook actually has some pretty cool games on it. Why they lower themselves I'll never understand. (That's called sarcasm for those without wit.)
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        • Author by epkklk851 (January 12, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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          But I don't think it will be good for Sarah. All of this attention may put her in the spotlight, but it also creates a permanent record of everything she does and says. It could really come back to bite her. I also don't think she will be willing to climb into the political ring. She may be once bitten, twice shy, or she may jump, and have no excuse about her weaknesses this time. She doesn't have what it takes to make it on a national and international stage. I will try not to smile if she crashes and burns.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (January 12, 2010 12:25 pm ET)
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            I agree for the most part but having her on record can only hurt her if the media/press will hold her accountable for her words and actions and so far they seem to be as the article points out to be no more than stenographers.
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            • Author by epkklk851 (January 12, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
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              Well, if you keep talking, you are bound to make a fool of yourself, sooner or later. The press may not have to hold her accountable. The people may very well do it themselves. YouTube can be a powerful tool in the hands of your enemy. But, yes, I would like to see the press put more pressure on her to come clean and to deal with them as a professional. This whole Facebook only approach is amaturish. People will see that sooner or later. But I doubt that she will run. Governing is hard work, and it won't make her popular, and she will not want to do what is required.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (January 12, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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                Yep, i agree. She can probably feed her ego and bankroll by sniping from the sidelines and never be held accountable for what she says working for Faux. To her a dream job I'am sure. I heard on MSNBC a little while ago someone say she could be the next Oprah Winfrey of politics. Hmmmmmmm!!!
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                • Author by epkklk851 (January 12, 2010 2:43 pm ET)
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                  The Oprah Winfrey of politics! Be my guest. I am not a big fan of Oprah. I haven't seen a full show in a decade. She could do her puffball interviews with Right-wingers and do no harm. Good place for her.
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          • Author by djansing16067 (January 12, 2010 3:37 pm ET)
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            All you have to see is that rotating Fox News cube in the corner to know that the news guy showing the clip is about to rip her a new one. The other cable nets hate Fox, and it usually shows.
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          • Author by Maggie's Mom (January 13, 2010 12:31 pm ET)
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            People--There IS NOW a record of nearly every stupid thing, every lie, just about everything period Palin said, but still, no one bothers to "call" her on anything. She is dumb as dirt, but for some reason that must endear her to some people. She should be an embarrassment to anyone who is responsible for her creeping out of Alaska. But, STILL, some of them (McCain, for one) talk about what an important part of the GOP she is. They should be ashamed of having unleashed this on the public, not to mention the possibility of her EVER having become President.
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        • Author by kalentros (January 12, 2010 6:20 pm ET)
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          Considering the people who make up her base, does it really matter? I just got back from arguing for two hours with a die hard conservative at my local bar where I brought up every reason I consider her a bad political candidate. I was honestly told "Who cares?" as a response. Do facts and rationality really matter when the response is "It's what I believe" is used as a defense?

          To the person who gave me a thumbs down. I don't bother with the thumbs up or down BS. If you disagree with me have the guts to make a comment and debate me, don't hide behind the anonymity. I may not comment very often, but when I have something to say...I say it.
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          • Author by mary59 (January 12, 2010 7:14 pm ET)
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            For that, a thumbs up.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 12, 2010 7:43 pm ET)
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            "It's what I believe" is used as a defense?

            Palin lives in a faith-based "reality". In the new tabloid book, when she was asked if she was prepared for the rigors of a run for Vice President, she said something like "Yes, it's God's plan".

            Now that's scary.
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    • Author by overmars jr. (January 12, 2010 9:51 am ET)
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      Spot on.
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    • Author by BillQ (January 12, 2010 10:17 am ET)
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      What's worse than giving these 2 political losers a platform to air their factually challenged attacks on Obama, is allowing Cheney's daughter airtime. What makes her qualified to offer any opinion on national TV?? Does being the daughter of a war criminal qualify you to criticize the President?
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      • Author by djansing16067 (January 12, 2010 3:38 pm ET)
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        Maybe not, but being the daughter of an Ian Fleming style supervillain might be. You'll know her by the white kitten she carries around in her purse.
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      • Author by Maggie's Mom (January 13, 2010 12:36 pm ET)
           
        Apparently it does in some circles. They keep asking "Shooter's" daughter back. It's disgusting these people keep getting any attention at all.
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    • Author by marvin123 (January 12, 2010 10:57 am ET)
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      Oh, I thought this country gave you the right to speak. Thank God this web-site isn't running the country. We would all be in jail for not falling into their line of ideology, and speaking out about it. This web-site has a better venue..... its called communism. No conservative web-site is like this one. They allow you to speak your mind. Thats what this country is all about, allowing all sides of the discussion to go through. Oh yeah, democrats don't need our imput, because your the "educated class". Every thing they tell you there for "your rights as a citizen" their against.
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      • Author by MickD (January 12, 2010 2:24 pm ET)
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        Says the person who just got to speak his mind.

        Dude, there are consequences to words that folks have to suffer sometimes. Try yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater and then complain about the "liberals suppressing free speech." Typical rightwing whining.
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      • Author by MickD (January 12, 2010 2:23 pm ET)
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        Says the person who just got to speak his mind.

        Dude, there are consequences to words that folks have to suffer sometimes. Try yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater and then complain about the "liberals suppressing free speech." Typical rightwing whining.
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      • Author by Jurgan (January 12, 2010 2:35 pm ET)
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        Why is this so hard to get? You have the right to speak- everyone does. You don't have the right to make people listen. Sarah and Dick can say whatever they want, and the press (who, by the way, also have the right to say or not say what they wish) can choose whether or not to publicize it. The question is should they, not can they.
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      • Author by DellDolly (January 12, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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        Man, talk about missing the point entirely.

        It's not about people not getting the right to speak. It's about their speech not being examined, evaluated and judged by reporters. It's about those reporters being stenographers instead of journalists.

        Flew right over your head, didn't it Marvin?

        And your assertion that 'conservative' websites let ou speak your mind? You have got to be OUT of your mind to make such a ludicrous assertion!

        And it hurts your point to ridicule us by saying "your (sic) the educated class" when you spell "you're" wrong.
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        • Author by darkmass (January 12, 2010 8:45 pm ET)
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          And it hurts your point to ridicule us by saying "your (sic) the educated class" when you spell "you're" wrong.
          Wait. Wasn't it Marvin's point that he is uneducated? I think he was trying to back up his point as best as he knew how.
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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 12, 2010 5:04 pm ET)
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        The issue is not a politician's right to say what he/she wants to say. The issue is the politicians lying to the people, and the media not holding them accountable for the lies they tell.
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    • Author by hardindr (January 12, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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      It's actually a two-fer. First, it's unprecedented because the Beltway press has never showered attention on political losers, such as Cheney and Palin. Meaning, the press has never cared what a former VP had to say about current events right after leaving the White House (think: Dan Quayle), or what a failed VP candidate had to say just months after losing in a landslide (think: Geraldine Ferraro). Traditionally, pundits and reporters disdain political losers (think: Mike Dukakis). But for Cheney and Palin, the rules have been generously reworked.

      I think this is factually wrong. Bob Somerby, Daily Howler, 2009-05-11:

      SHOULD DICK CHENEY SHUT HIS BIG YAP: Should Richard Cheney shut his big yap? Bob Schieffer seemed to suggest as much on yesterday’s Face the Nation:

      SCHIEFFER: Mr. Vice President, thank you for being here. You are obviously here because we invited you here, and we appreciate that. But I want to ask you something.

      President Bush has done what people normally do when they leave the Oval Office; he has remained mum. He has said very little. At one point he said that he thought that President Obama deserved his silence. But you have taken a very different tack and, I must say, a very unusual tack for somebody just leaving the vice president's office. You've been speaking out not just frequently but often very pointedly. At one point, you said, for example, the Obama Administration has made this country less safe. That's a very serious charge. Why have you taken this approach?

      Schieffer to Cheney: Yes, we invited you here to speak. But why don’t you shut your big yap?

      Many liberals have said what Schieffer suggested—that Cheney should put a sock in it. We’re not inclined to think that ourselves, and so we recently checked the claim Schieffer made on yesterday’s program. Is it true, what Schieffer said? Is it “very unusual” for someone to run his mouth just after leaving the VP office? In truth, there are very few cases to check. But we did find one other loudmouth.

      People don’t leave the VP office every day; in the past thirty years, there are only three examples other than Cheney. (Excluding VP Bush, who became president.) Two of the three kept their big yaps shut. One of the three played loudmouth.

      The well-mannered fellows were an odd couple: Al Gore and Dan Quayle. Quayle said little in public in 1993, choosing instead to work on a book. Gore also worked a book in 2001. He too offered few critiques of the sitting president.

      For the record, not everyone was pleased with Gore’s silence. By March 29, 2001, Richard Cohen was devoting this column to a plea for Gore to pipe up about the Bush Admin’s environmental policies. “Gore is needed,” Cohen said. We don’t fault Gore for his early approach; his situation was unique. But we’re not sure why Cohen’s view was “wrong:”

      COHEN (3/29/01): Gore is needed. No one in the Democratic Party—no one in either party—speaks with his authority on environmental matters. Want to know whether Bush was right about maintaining the present standard for arsenic in water? Ask Gore. Want to know whether the president is right about mining? Ask Gore. Want to know, even, whether Bush is doing the right thing in Korea or Macedonia? Ask Gore. He knows these things. He really does.

      Yet we hear nothing. This gives the impression that there is a distinction between political issues and policy. You fight about the former in a campaign and then shut up about the latter afterward. If Gore is going to try again in 2004, then he ought to open up on Bush now.

      By April, Katherine “Kit” Seelye was writing this “political memo,” saying that “[s]ome of Mr. Gore's former campaign staff and allies” shared Cohen’s view about Gore’s silence—though she quoted no one by name. In fairness, this extended a trademark theme for Seelye: Whatever Gore Does Must Be Wrong.

      At any rate, Quayle and Gore kept their yaps shut at first. But was Schieffer right in what he said? One former VP did run his mouth. That was the original “Rude Pundit”—the un-mannered Walter Mondale.

      Mondale left his VP post in 1981, replaced by Reagan/Bush. By April 30, he was running his mouth:

      NEW YORK TIMES (5/1/81): Former Vice President Walter F. Mondale contended today in a speech to the National Education Association that the Reagan Administration's proposals to reduce education spending by 25 percent would weaken the national defense.

      ''If you believe in a strong defense for America, you ought to begin with good schools in America,'' Mr. Mondale said.

      By graduation time, he was complaining about Reagan on torture and terror!

      NEW YORK TIMES (5/25/81): Former Vice President Walter F. Mondale, speaking to the 30th graduating class at Brandeis University, today criticized the Reagan Administration's human rights policies abroad.

      ''Torture is torture, and terror is terror,'' he said, ''and whether it occurs in Cuba, Russia, Vietnam, Argentina, Chile or El Salvador, we in America should oppose it, condemn it and do our best to stop it.''

      Mr. Mondale characterized President Reagan's nomination of Ernest W. Lefever as Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights as ''sad'' and ''full of justifications for indifference.”

      Four days later, Mondale was sticking his big long nose into other foreign policy matters:

      NEW YORK TIMES (5/29/81): Former Vice President Walter F. Mondale yesterday criticized what he called the Reagan Administration's practice of distinguishing between the human rights attitudes of rightist and leftist regimes. He warned of risks of misunderstanding abroad and erosion of support at home for an effective foreign policy.

      Mr. Mondale also said that ''if we care about Israel's security, we should not sell to Saudi Arabia a highly sophisticated and potentially destabilizing weapon like our Awacs airborne radar aircraft.''

      By July, he was even “derid[ing] Reagan values,” according to a Times headline:

      NEW YORK TIMES (7/23/81): Former Vice President Walter F. Mondale, describing the Reagan Administration's policies as a radical assault on the American ideal of fairness, called on the National Urban League today to fight ''icy indifference to human need and justice.''

      The speech by Mr. Mondale, a long-time ally of civil rights groups, appeared to capture the spirit of participants at the league's conference here...

      They applauded enthusiastically and often during Mr. Mondale's stinging criticism...

      In short, Mondale spoke early and often. To be honest, there is no real historical record which makes Cheney’s conduct “very unusual,” the formulation Schieffer chose. Departed presidents almost always stifle themselves; the rule is less clear for departing VPs. As usual, Schieffer was overstating the facts a tad, in line with prevailing sentiment.

      Should Cheney shut up? We don’t really see why. If he thinks the country is less safe now, we can’t see why he wouldn’t say that. In recent years, we libs have frequently offered variations on a sissified theme: Will someone please make these bad men stop talking? We think we’d be much better off learning to fight, and win, these debates. The public tends to agree with our positions, by the way.

      (In today’s column, E.J. Dionne says something similar about the coming Supreme Court debate. By way of contrast, many liberals have already been complaining: How dare these Republicans speak?)

      As usual, Schieffer was overstating a tad. Times have changed in the mainstream press, though. Yesterday, he tilted some weak, uncertain facts against Cheney. For many years, he tended to tilt his uncertain facts in favor of Bush Admin ploys.
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      • Author by mattcable250650 (January 12, 2010 12:46 pm ET)
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        Maybe I'm just one 'a them free speech hardliners, but I disagree with Bob Schieffer's questions to Cheney. Schieffer appeared to ask Cheney "Why don't y'all just STFU?" That's the wrong question.
        The right question is "Why are the media people treating Cheney's every pronouncement as news?" I wouldn't put the focus on Cheney at all and have zero interest in shutting him up. My question concerns the press corps and why they're so very deeply concerned with what this guy thinks.
        And as to your main point, I think there's a qualitative difference between Cheney's criticisms of Obama and the way that other VPs criticizing other Presidents were treated by the press corps at the time. There was not this constant, obsessive focus that we see with Cheney today.
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    • Author by skeptonomist (January 12, 2010 12:01 pm ET)
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      Schieffer and Somerby were talking about the conduct of the former VP's themselves. Of course they have every right to speak out if they want. They can give speeches in front of sympathetic groups, etc., and to a large extent this is what Palin has been doing. But this post is about how the media cover the statements - whether they stenographically repeat the prepared statements without any real reporting, which means doing some fact-checking.

      There is also some difference between VP's who have completed their terms (Cheney) and losing candidates who still have aspirations (Palin and Mondale). Palin is at least a potential candidate for national office, so her views and capabilities should be of general interest.
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    • Author by Midnight Kevin (January 12, 2010 1:34 pm ET)
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      What makes the press believe Palin is a credible source to offer criticisms and commentary, considering her history of lying?
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      The Midnight Review
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    • Author by seahawks123 (January 12, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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      Exactly what lies are you referring to. Be specific.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 12, 2010 10:35 pm ET)
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        Donno bout him, but here's one, her death panels in the medical reform bill would be two. If thats not enough there are some coments on the bridge to nowhere that are availible on site.
        Just type palin lies into the search engine.
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    • Author by IndieJoan (January 12, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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      I think the media has been handed a two-fer, itself and doesn't quite get it.

      Cheney: Who better to discredit? Evidence spewing out of every orafice available as to his manufacture of terror via corporate interests, and yet, people are worried that he provides quotes instead of Using The Evidence. If he ever were truly "held accountable," he would land at the end of a 10-foot rope. Everyone knows this, and yet you are worried about his persona instead of attacking his record. You've been given an exceptional opportunity here and you need to figure it out and Take It.

      Palin: The most Desperate Housewife to ever set foot on Pennsylvania Avenue, even if it was a short visit. Who better to marginalize? She doesn't even have the mental skills, and neither do the people who took the bait and Made her by writing the book for her, and promoting her alter-ego status.

      I could not have given you a better opportunity or a more visible target if I had planeed it 10 years in advance. Get yourself a private investigator who is not afraid of politics, either right or left, and Use What You Already Know about these two. Target their audience with the Truth, in other words. Sheesh.


      And for Pete's sake, Glenn Beck started his newfound glory HOW? Go back and look at sodahead.

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    • Author by IndieJoan (January 12, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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      I think the media has been handed a two-fer, itself and doesn't quite get it.

      Cheney: Who better to discredit? Evidence spewing out of every orafice available as to his manufacture of terror via corporate interests, and yet, people are worried that he provides quotes instead of Using The Evidence. If he ever were truly "held accountable," he would land at the end of a 10-foot rope. Everyone knows this, and yet you are worried about his persona instead of attacking his record. You've been given an exceptional opportunity here and you need to figure it out and Take It.

      Palin: The most Desperate Housewife to ever set foot on Pennsylvania Avenue, even if it was a short visit. Who better to marginalize? She doesn't even have the mental skills, and neither do the people who took the bait and Made her by writing the book for her, and promoting her alter-ego status.

      I could not have given you a better opportunity or a more visible target if I had planeed it 10 years in advance. Get yourself a private investigator who is not afraid of politics, either right or left, and Use What You Already Know about these two. Target their audience with the Truth, in other words. Sheesh.


      And for Pete's sake, Glenn Beck started his newfound glory HOW? Go back and look at sodahead.

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    • Author by ksmith260@hotmail.com (January 12, 2010 3:41 pm ET)
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      i think that the 24 hour news cycle has made the demand for news such that many news organizations have tossed their journalistic values and integrity right out the window. the old paradigm is dust in the wind. they now have to compete with the internet and bloggers, etc, etc, etc. and the way they see to do that is to ignore the tenets of journalism. at some point this will shift again, once the public starts to demand integrity.
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      • Author by temphandle tearfully55timetable (January 12, 2010 7:17 pm ET)
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        I really do hope the old paradigm, or something like it, does return and sooner than later. At times it's rather fun to poke at Fox news and their distortions, or how other news outlets so readily dismiss real stories and repeat fiction v fact for ratings. I wonder if any of them feel the pain most intelligent viewers do? Someone has to have a conscience somehere in the mix. I don't buy the arguement of the 24 hr news cycle anymore either, esp when most of it's repeated on some sort of a loop, or a changing of the guard only to repeat the same nonsense. It's like watching a daily trainwreck. This is not rocket science...it's journalism...and right now it lacks integrity. I really hope we return to something of value, if not we're all stuck with Fox in the ratings win and the others playing catch up...or with Howie and his faux criticisms of the media on Sunday.
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    • Author by Bill Wilson (January 12, 2010 5:39 pm ET)
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      So here's the real reason the right controls the dialogue. The left -- long accused of being biased -- bends over backwards to ensure that it isn't. That means going out of its way to appear critical of the left wing. Ironically no such pressure is felt to be as critical of the right wing; in fact being so critical would subject them to charges of left wing bias. So you get the dilemma?

      Plus (and I admit this is biased), the left really does try harder to be more rational, analytical and well, just downright more intelligent, than the right wing. The right wing faces no such constraints. They have Beck jumping up and down like a clown, Rush shaking uncontrollably to mimic Michael J Fox's Parkinson's disease, Bill O'Reilly screaming at and cutting off anyone who dares to disagree with him. I honestly don't see that on the left. But again, I am fairly biased. Anyway, the right's willingness to go "over the top" and act in such an unintellectual/unintelligent way is really what gives them their advantage... they can throw out wild accusations, act irrationally and for most of America it'll be accepted without question. PLUS - and this is a big one -- it is simply more entertaining to watch or listen to. Think about it... what is more interesting and understandable to middle America? Monotone NPR or circus-clown Beck? It's not even close... Beck wins hands down on entertainment value (in other words, keeping people's attention).

      Perhaps oversimplistic but I think this is the root cause of the problem.
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      • Author by Maggie's Mom (January 13, 2010 12:58 pm ET)
           
        The saddest part if that those watching and listening to Rush, Beck, Bill, and all the others BELIEVE these people are REPORTING THE NEWS. They honestly think all of what they are told to be the TRUTH, that FOX is possibly the ONLY channel reporting in a "Fair and Balanced" manner, when it is actually the complete opposite of that! The people listening to them are beyond pathetic.
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    • Author by RightLeftDebate (January 12, 2010 9:56 pm ET)
         
      The Far Right is not a fan of Palin, the Left is not a fan of Palin. Many though, will tune in to see what happens. Correct?
      Liberals News Blog
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    • Author by vwcat (January 12, 2010 10:40 pm ET)
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      I cannot get the unfortunate picture out of my mine when I read about the media slavish devotion to Palin of Andrea Mitchell sitting and doing her program from a mall where Palin was holding a book signing and acting all breathless and waiting for a chance of Palin actually acknowledging her.
      that is simply pathetic.
      A seasoned journalist reduced to sitting in a mall in hopes that someone as inane as Palin will give her a word so she can dutifully and breatlessly report that word over and over.
      that is the picture of our press today.
      Sadly, while they bow at the feet of Cheney and his spawn, Liz. At the Valley Girl, Palin. They treat a democrat who may not want to talk as trash.
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    • Author by Jacksonian (January 12, 2010 11:54 pm ET)
         
      Does anyone else feel as if Dick Cheney's shot us all in the face?

      And that he's reloading?

      And that it's just a matter of time before he joins Palin for an aerial hunt on the nation?
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    • Author by MagCynic (January 13, 2010 12:40 am ET)
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      What's the left's deal with Sarah Palin anyways? It seems like the image they present of her doesn't match with how they treat her. They present her as being this stupid, out of touch, and ditzy woman yet obsess over her with much gnashing of teeth.
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      • Author by JoeSixpack (January 13, 2010 12:32 pm ET)
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        What's the incongruity? She is stupid, ditzy, and out of touch. Reasonable people have no trouble seeing that, and treating her accordingly.

        Since we're making gross generalizations here, what's the right's obsession with an incompetent quitter who's also a proven liar? Why do they worship her so? Recognizing and identifying her nonsense isn't "gnashing teeth" - it's just reality.
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        • Author by MagCynic (January 13, 2010 8:41 pm ET)
             
          She is stupid, ditzy, and out of touch. Reasonable people have no trouble seeing that, and treating her accordingly.


          How so? What legitimately ditzy and/or stupid things has she said?
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          • Author by rms (January 14, 2010 8:40 am ET)
               
            As suggested above, do a "Palin lies" web search.
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            • Author by MagCynic (January 14, 2010 11:53 pm ET)
                 
              Results for "Palin Lies" on Google: 8.8 million
              Results for "Obama Lies" on Google: 106 million

              What's your point?
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    • Author by manofmystique (January 13, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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      Folks got all over me when I said that Republicans and conservative are manipulating and using the mainstream media to carry out their deceive-the-American-people-agenda.
      Republican needed to turn the polls around on Healthcare Reform and what better way to do it than confusison; and that is exactly what they did, with the help of the media.

      Now that you know what you are up against: always speak truth to power....

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    • Author by lakersfan86 (January 13, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
         
      i honestly believe she will not run in '12 b/c her knowledge of the political landscape and how government actually works is limited folks,she has NO CLUE!!!! she will be a female conservative rush "pass the oxycontin"limbaugh but less obnoxious.seriously ya'll if she could last just half a term as governor of her state,how can she handle rigors and grind of a campaign for president for nearly 2 yrs.it wont happen b/c she will laughed off the political stage for certain.behind the scenes though i expect mr.ailes to have a political expert/coach to teach her what to do as far as being a "fox news personality"
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    • Author by hopalong (January 13, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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      Reporters, err, Lapdogs have been scribes for Republicans ever since Bush, err, Cheney became President.

      Now they're at it again with Palin.

      Stephen Colbert was right when he told the media at The White House to simply transcribe what the Bush said, put it through spell check and go home to make love to your mate.

      They followed Colbert's orders.

      The best show about the media and how they were cowed was Bill Moyers' "Buying The War". It's worth re-watching to remind yourself just how bad it was back then and to compare it to now.
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    • Author by wakeupplease (January 14, 2010 6:11 am ET)
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      I think between a former VP or 2 former VP candidates that the American people might be interested in any of their comments. I mean gee we have to hear about Lady Gaga all the time too right. Let them speak, everyone has a mind to listen to people and determine whether that person's message provides meaning in their lives. I'm sure if any of the three spoke or received the attention of the media in the first place, that the media would cover what they had to say. It could be a small placement or a larger one and if it would build itself into a bigger story if there was a interest in the message given. As for Facebook and former VP candidate/former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin. You are bashing her for using this as a means to put out information that her supporters use to stay updated on her views of Washington and America because they believed in her values when she was the running mate of Senator John McMain and still do today. I mean gee, the White House even has a Facebook page (Not that it is bad either). This allows people to stay updated with news from people, companies, organizations or countries for that matter that they what to know about and stay updated with. It sure has helped in this terrible earthquake matter as well. And you question how do we know she really wrote that stuff that she writes on their. Well, how do we know you wrote the article I read above. I mean gee, you try to use this little aspect (how do we know she wrote it?) because you/others have portrayed her as dumb, stupid and the such and so you say this to add credibility to your statement {How do we know she wrote it?} That is retarded approach because like I said how do we know about you in that case. And back to your Palin is dumb game. It usually would be easier to write your thoughts than to speak your thoughts because you can correct yourself/edit your article/research your topic.
      You say "If Palin steadfastly refuses to engage with journalists and insists on hiding behind her Facebook page, there's simply no reason reporters should give online press releases from a failed VP candidate (and half-term governor) the slightest bit of attention." Well she must be thanking you then because you are giving her attention but you have reason behind it, because your scared of something otherwise why would you be talking about her. Oh because you just want to smash her because you don't like her I guess. Thats fine. But you understand why she won't talk to everyone now. Please name the conservative beltway people on the big three tv channels that have a show please??? You say mainstream is conservative, right?
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    • Author by retiredinsf (January 14, 2010 9:41 am ET)
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      Don't you left wing losers ever get tired of posting your predictable condesending comments about Palin? Admit it! You are very concerned about her popularity of being the second most admired woman in America just barely behind Pillory Clinton!

      What a bunch of snobs!


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