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Media Matters: In which Glenn Beck hosts talk of tickle fights

March 12, 2010 7:49 pm ET

This may forever be remembered as the week when "tickle fight" entered the political lexicon.

The story stretches back to last week, when Eric Massa (D-NY) announced his resignation from the House of Representatives. It took many people by surprise, including conservative commentators, who initially reacted to the story by trumpeting ethics allegations against him to tarnish Democrats. Sean Hannity compared Massa to disgraced Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL), and Rush Limbaugh sounded enthusiastic that Speaker Nancy Pelosi could lose a vote for health care reform.

But the story took an unexpected turn over the weekend when Massa charged that Democratic leaders had pressured him to resign because he was set to vote against the health care bill. On Monday, Hannity and Limbaugh changed their tune accordingly. Hannity sounded off: "[I]t looks like this is only the latest instance of intimidation to come from the Obama White House." And Limbaugh bragged that he was doing his part "to make it a national story."

Enter Glenn Beck. Massa's allegations against the Democratic leadership appeared to confirm all of Beck's theories about the Obama administration, and Beck soon booked Massa for a full hour on his Tuesday Fox News show. It was at this point that the story turned toxic for conservatives.

Earlier that day, conservative blogger Michelle Malkin had called into Beck's radio show and given him prescient advice not to spend an hour with Massa. Their conversation became tense, as Beck seemed annoyed that Malkin would question his judgment. That afternoon, Limbaugh jumped ship on Massa. After earlier touting Massa's side of the story, Limbaugh now said he wanted Massa to remain in Congress as a Democrat because he was a "loose cannon," a "kook," and a "freak."

But Beck pressed ahead with his hour-long interview. Massa did look like a "loose cannon" during his interview with Beck, in a way that did not reflect well on the host. Massa also walked back his allegations against Rahm Emmanuel and admitted to having "tickle fights" with staffers in a house they shared. Beck couldn't get Massa to name names and accuse other Democrats of corruption. Massa instead talked about the need for campaign finance reform, only further frustrating Beck. Media Matters Senior Fellow Eric Boehlert gave the following post-mortem:

Well, in one sense, Beck was right [about devoting an hour to Massa], because yesterday's colossal flop might just make television history. It might go down as one of the most pointlessly absurd -- and yes, truly unwatchable -- hours in cable news. Last night, the snickering had already reached epic levels. And with the can't-watch-TV performance, Beck most likely took the Massa issue off the table for Republicans, since the whole story now looks more like a comedy than an actual scandal. 

"The result," Boehlert concluded, was that Beck became a "national laughingstock."

After the interview, Beck apologized to his viewers for wasting an hour of their time. Only an hour, Glenn?

One further note: Limbaugh apparently wanted to make sure Beck didn't get all the Massa attention. On Tuesday, Limbaugh was chatting with a caller about New York Gov. David Paterson appointing Massa's replacement. Limbaugh, never a man to back away from a race-baiting play on words, said: "So, David Paterson will become the massa who gets to appoint whoever gets to take Massa's place. So, for the first time in his life, Paterson's gonna be a massa."

Other Major Stories

The consequences of Rove's Courage

Karl Rove made some media ripples this week with the release of his memoir, Courage and Consequences. We at Media Matters obtained a copy in advance of its release date, which gave us the opportunity to expose its falsehoods before most people could even get their hands on it. What we found would not shock anyone familiar with Rove's history of "play[ing] fast and loose with the facts": Rove's book was another exercise in rewriting the wrongs of the Bush administration.

For example, in Courage, Rove distorts a 2004 Senate Intelligence Committee report to claim that Bush didn't "lie us into war." Rove writes that Bush's claims that Saddam Hussein had ties to terrorism were substantiated by the Senate report. The report actually said that only some of Bush's statements on Iraq were substantiated. The report went on to contradict Bush's claims about an Iraq-Al Qaeda partnership, and that Saddam was prepared to give weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.

With every book comes a media tour, and Rove spent much of the week appearing on what seemed like every Fox News program in the lineup (plus an hour-long appearance on The Rush Limbaugh Show). Talking-head Rove used one of these opportunities to repeat discredited claims about the Valerie Plame leak. Rove also used his latest Wall Street Journal op-ed to repeat some of the same health care reform falsehoods that were in his book.

No rest for the weary: Fishing freak-out and Glenn Beck's musical epiphanies

What happens when an ESPN column makes a far-fetched claim that President Obama would ban fishing? On ESPNOutdoors.com, Robert Montgomery claimed that a federal strategy "could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters."

Conservatives took the bait, and it wasn't long before Limbaugh, Gateway Pundit, Fox Nation, RedState, and Michelle Malkin all forwarded the claim.

Was there any truth to it? Would the White House start sending out Secret Service agents to confiscate our fishing poles and shut down our local bait shop?

To the surprise of absolutely no one with a brain, the story was wrong. ESPN acknowledged its mistake.

But apparently nobody told Glenn Beck, who didn't back off the story. "No more fishing," Beck said, adding: "Forget about the frickin' fish. People are losing their rights. Who's more important: the fish or you?" Eventually, even Fox News debunked the claim.

Beck also exposed us to more of his pop music revelations. A few months ago, Beck explored the meaning of The Beatles' "Revolution" with the enthusiasm of a college freshman evangelizing Dark Side of the Moon. This week, he warned his viewers that Woody Guthrie's "This Land Is Your Land" is "about a progressive utopia."

The next day on his radio show, Beck and his crew called Bruce Springsteen's "Born in the U.S.A." "anti-American." My Media Matters colleague Jeremy Holden took Beck and his co-hosts to task for their "simplistic version of patriotism" that "leaves little room for any criticism of America, its policy, or the behavior of its people."

For the road

It was a busy week at Media Matters, and some other items deserve attention, too. Former Bush speechwriter and Washington Post columnist Marc Thiessen continued his DOJ witch hunt with more attacks on the Obama Justice Department. Glenn Beck was called out by the antipoverty group Sojourners for his continued attacks on the concept of social justice. Beck's busy week also had him selling "survival seeds" and stating without irony: "You cannot lie to the American people for very long unless you're really good." And some conservative media figures cast Democrats as "suicide bombers" in their push for health care reform.

Finally, Media Matters welcomed Joe Strupp as its new investigative reporter and senior editor. His blog "Strupp" also launched on the Media Matters website this week.

This week's media columns

This week's media columns from the Media Matters senior fellows: Eric Boehlert looks at the Pentagon shooter, insurrectionism, and right-wing bloggers; Jamison Foser considers whether Washington Post and New York Times editors are running with a bad crowd; and Karl Frisch delves deeper into the right-wing media falling hook, line, and sinker for the latest Obama-centric conspiracy.

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    • Author by MagCynic (March 13, 2010 9:18 am ET)
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      "The result," Boehlert concluded, was that Beck became a "national laughingstock."
      This has got to be the funniest line in the entire article. Laughingstock? Really? How does that work exactly? If Massa claims to have been pressured into resigning by Democratic leadership (something that conservatives would jump on obviously), says something to Beck on the phone to further make him believe that he was pressured into resigning, then changes his entire story live on the air, why does that make Beck a national laughingstock? Who's laughing? The people at MMFA?
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      • Author by RSJ (March 13, 2010 9:50 am ET)
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        Actually, Beck was a laughingstock even before the Massa interview, but seeing Glenn desperately trying to coax the former Democratic Congressman to confirm some of Beck's nutty conspiracy theories and Massa refusing to take the bait was priceless. Especially great was when Massa said the solution to most of Washington's problems was campaign finance reform and keeping corporate money out of politics -- I thought Beck was going to fall off his chair in a dead faint when he said that.

        Beck is such an unprofessional rodeo clown he apparently didn't even bother to have a producer pre-interview Massa before the appearance, and now he's paid the price. Watch him now; I don't think he's going to be at Fox News long -- even Murdoch isn't crazy enough to keep this goofball on the air, particularly now that some evangelical Christian groups are boycotting him.
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      • Author by KM1848 (March 13, 2010 2:05 pm ET)
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        Any good journalist/interviewer knows how their subject is going to answer the questions they are asked. Had Beck done some research or perhaps spoken at length with Massa before the interview he would have expected what was going to happen.

        This is what makes Beck a laughingstock. He just goes on the air and spouts a bunch of inaccurate nonsense everyday and his fans lap it up. To real journalists/interviewers/newspeople, this makes him a laughingstock.
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        • Author by bluhawk7398 (March 13, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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          Sorry, only in the dreams of mmfa does Beck become a laughingstock because of this... Massa was invited simply to share his allegations of Democratic leadership misconduct, which it became apparent were pretty much false and Beck apologized for the waste of time. Had it been Olbermann or Maddow they would have been lauded for their refreshing honesty..... mmfa shows its double-standard as usual and invites the lefty-sheeple to gulp the kool-aid....
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          • Author by DellDolly (March 13, 2010 2:59 pm ET)
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            Actually, he has already been made a laughinstock over this - it's not a dream, it's reality. This episode was covered on the network's nightly newscasts and on multiple Internet news sources too.

            Is the public likely to forget about this? Maybe. Will his devoted listeners forgive and forget? Most of them, yes.

            Doesn't change the fact that he WAS made a laughinstock over this.

            You show YOUR SIDE'S typical disingenuous response here. There's no Kool-Aid drinking going on from our side. We aren't grasping at straws like Beck clearly was here!
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            • Author by MagCynic (March 13, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
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              Doesn't change the fact that he WAS made a laughinstock over this.
              For him to be a national laughingstock people have to be laughing at him. Who is laughing at him?
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              • Author by DellDolly (March 13, 2010 9:44 pm ET)
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                I already explained to you that there was national coverage of his behaving in such a way that he was a laughingstock.

                Get a clue.

                And please don't feed this troll anymore.
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                • Author by MagCynic (March 14, 2010 12:22 am ET)
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                  And please don't feed this troll anymore.
                  LOL.
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                • Author by jpeagle21 (March 15, 2010 10:49 am ET)
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                  LOL. I was waiting for the "don't fed the troll" comment and it finally came. Talk about "laughing stock." I thought you were already blasted (even by some of your liberal cohorts) for bossing other people around about "not feeding the trolls."
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              • Author by RKAllen (March 14, 2010 10:01 am ET)
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                Who is laughing at him?
                Many, many, many people are laughing at him. Bloggers and on-line Newspapers, SNL skits, comedians, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, Talk Show hosts, and many other comedy writers are all using clips, footage, and quotes from the Glenn Beck/Massa interview to spark laughter everywhere.

                To suggest that people are not laughing at him is just deliberate ignorance of the facts, because you know that this has been the fodder for many jokes.
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                • Author by MagCynic (March 14, 2010 10:34 am ET)
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                  They did that before this Massa interview anyways. I'm asking for proof that Beck is a national laughingstock. I'll take those words literally so I'm just asking for evidence of 51% of Americans laughing at him. You've essentially said just the liberal media is laughing at him. Does the liberal media represent over half of America now?
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                  • Author by RKAllen (March 14, 2010 1:01 pm ET)
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                    For him to be a national laughingstock people have to be laughing at him. Who is laughing at him?
                    You set the parameters for your argument. I pointed out people who are currently laughing at Glenn Beck over the Massa interview, which would make him a "national laughingstock" by the way you framed your argument. If you want to change the parameters of your argument, then that is fine.

                    I would point out though, that you have now framed your argument in a way that can't possibly be proven by any reasonable person. In other words, by the framing of your argument, you could no more prove that Beck is not a "national laughingstock" any more than I could prove that he is.

                    Is this what you have been reduced to, Mag? Resorting to intellectual stalemates to defend Glenn Beck?
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                    • Author by MagCynic (March 14, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
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                      All I'm doing is taking the words "national laughingstock" literally. MMFA seems so adept at taking every word Beck says at their literal meaning so I'm just returning the favor. To me, national laughingstock has to mean - at the bare minimum - most of the country is laughing and making fun of him. I'm simply asking for proof otherwise the person who wrote that Beck is a national laughingstock is a liar.
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                      • Author by DellDolly (March 14, 2010 10:36 pm ET)
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                        Well, we all know that you can't possibly be described as a "thinking" person, so what YOU "think" 'national laughingstock' means is pretty irrelevant.
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                        • Author by jpeagle21 (March 15, 2010 10:56 am ET)
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                          I thought you were going to stop "feeding the trolls" Dell. You wrote it in a previous post, yet here you are feeding us trolls. Yummy yummy. Don't you know that every time you write "don't feed the troll", what people really see you saying is, "Please stop talking. I can't deal with opposing view points."
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                          • Author by DellDolly (March 15, 2010 1:00 pm ET)
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                            Nope, you dum-dum.

                            The troll is an individual post.

                            Now, some posters almost exclusively MAKE troll posts, and so are trolls, but that thing that shouldn't be "fed" is the troll POST.

                            And there's never been a case where my caution against feeding the trolls has had one smidgen of relevance to my opposition to opposing viewpoints! That's why you can't/didn't/wouldn't be able to find any examples of me actually acting that way, ever.

                            But here, all you're doing is making a personal attack that has nothing to do with the thread.

                            So, everyone should be warned to not feed the troll.
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                      • Author by aerdna (March 15, 2010 3:15 pm ET)
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                        Wow, dude. Get over yourself
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          • Author by KM1848 (March 13, 2010 3:00 pm ET)
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            "...invited simply to share his allegations of Democratic leadership misconduct, which it became apparent were pretty much false..."

            You have proven my point bluehawk, had Beck done his homework and prepared for this interview he would have realized this beforehand and never had the interview. Hence, laughingstock.
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            • Author by MagCynic (March 13, 2010 5:43 pm ET)
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              The only thing Beck is guilty of is believing Massa that he was pressured into resigning. Massa flat out lied to everybody about this bit. Beck was lied to by Massa. It was only after the interview started that Massa did a complete 180 and claimed nothing happened whatsoever. I'm still not seeing how this makes Beck a laughingstock. Who's laughing? MMFA? DU? MSNBC?
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              • Author by RandR (March 14, 2010 12:21 am ET)
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                His 180 was from his previous statement that he was resigning because of his health. Beck inviteda proven liar onto his show in the hopes he could get more lies from him. It backfired and the national press and all rational viewers saw right through Beck's desperate ploy.

                The very fact that people focused so much on his apology for wasting an hour of his viewer's time - with the full implication that it wasn't the first time by a long shot, pretty much proves that more people are laughing AT him than WITH him.
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              • Author by ILikePizza (March 14, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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                "Who's Laughing?" People with properly functioning cerebrums:

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WLs1t8UiK0
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              • Author by highliter (March 15, 2010 3:46 pm ET)
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                All their liberal friends are laughing that obviously means everyone else is. If you are not laughing then you are obviously racists. No one will ever respond to the facts in your post that Massa lied. In their eye beck is a fool because he didn’t know he was lying.
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      • Author by JimmyCraghorn (March 14, 2010 7:03 pm ET)
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        National Laughingstock? Really? How does that work exactly?

        simple answer for you Mag. People all over the NATION are LAUGHING at him.
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        • Author by Leftylib (March 15, 2010 10:42 am ET)
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          MagCynic is probably also asking "Who voted for Obama in 2008?"
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    • Author by orangejuls (March 13, 2010 1:15 pm ET)
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      Did you watch the interview? Beck became a laughingstock because he goaded and goaded Massa into trying to point to any conspiracy at all, and Massa turned it all around on him, imploring him to stop calling his fellow Americans names, and to stop stoking the fires of fear. This guy--Massa--is clearly nuts, and yet sounded at times more sane than Beck's paranoid ramblings.
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    • Author by retiredinsf (March 15, 2010 6:41 pm ET)
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      Well mmfa regulars, it's been fun but because some of my posts are getting deleted by someone I'm outta here. I figured it would happen eventually since I realize so many liberals do not tolerate opposing views.

      Have a good life but try to grow up.

      Sincerely, retired
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