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Fox News, health care, and the right-wing nervous breakdown

March 23, 2010 5:42 am ET

Watching Fox News personalities recently come unglued as the realization set in that (surprise!) Democrats might actually have the votes to pass health care reform -- and noting how extraordinarily loopy and dire both the attacks on the White House, and the proclamations for pending, apocalyptic doom were becoming -- I was getting nervous that one of Fox News' more unhinged hosts might finally just snap and pull a Rev. Jim Jones, beseeching viewers to make the ultimate sacrifice.

Honestly, unless you've been monitoring the ticking time bomb that is the far-right media in recent days, you probably don't appreciate how frighteningly possible that cultish scenario has become, as the GOP Noise Machine, led by Fox News, publicly suffers a nervous breakdown. It's a mental and emotional collapse that's been advertised in recent days as cablers, radio talkers, and right-wing bloggers have reached for increasingly hysterical, often blood-curdling rhetoric to describe the irreversible atrocity -- an incurable, metastasizing malignancy!! -- that's about to seize and destroy the United States in the form of a bill to expand health care coverage.

Listening to the calamitous warnings (i.e. "the end of America as we know it"), it's not that unreasonable to think that at some point one of the media mob leaders is going to suggest that life itself just is no longer worth living.

After all, late last week the nation stood on the precipice, just three "days away from the United States of America being over as we've all known it," according to Rush Limbaugh, who warned that reform would drive every private insurance company out of business. Glenn Beck also went full tilt, warning that the bill represented a "turning point," like the Civil War and Peal Harbor, while colleague Sean Hannity pinpointed the health care vote as the "very hour" that America turned "completely towards socialism."

The Washington Times likened reform to the "Black Plague," and the online reaction was somehow even more unhinged. It was "RIP USA," because with the vote, America would become "occupied by a hostile foreign power." Indeed, a "socialist putsch" had been sprung and "America's Day of Wreckoning [sic]" was at hand. Why? Because the Democrats' health care legislation "will make every American a POW, strip them of their Freedoms and Liberty and shove them in a meat cellar for cold storage."

Not scared yet? Well, just keep in mind that "Fascist healthcare will destroy America," "civil unrest is coming," and President Obama is to blame. More? "Fascist House Democrats are preparing to euthanize America." And don't forget that Sunday's health care vote in Congress represented a "dark day for America, the worst since 9/11."

And, progressive politicians, heed this warning: "Democrats who crammed this unwarranted bill down the throats of the American people who clearly and overwhelmingly opposed it deserve to be drawn and quartered."

That's right, tortured.

As Jon Stewart noted last week while playing the straight man in a Daily Show bit about the increasingly unhinged, right-wing response, "The rhetoric seems completely divorced from reality." And that observation came before the weekend theatrics inside the Beltway, when self-described patriots, egged on by the right-wing media, rallied to "Kill the bill!" and in the process reportedly tossed racial and anti-gay epithets at Democratic members of the Congress. (The far-right reaction? So what if they did?)

Trust me. This televised, incoherent meltdown has gone way beyond sore loserdom. Or even sore loserdom on steroids. This hasn't just been more of the usual Democrats-are-crooks type of whining that Fox News has turned into an art form since Obama's inauguration. And it's gone far beyond the usual scare tactics that the cable channel has trademarked. (Recent on-screen graphics: "Will the health bill ruin the economy?" and "Does Obamacare mean millions more jobs destroyed?")

Instead, this bout of spastic lashing out has been unique even by the previous standard adopted by Beck, who, on the eve of the health care vote, likened Democrats to Al Qaeda terrorists who were trying to bring America to its knees from the inside.

Because apparently when conservatives lose consecutive nationwide election cycles, thereby allowing Democrats to set the legislative agenda, conservatives' objections render passing bills a criminal act, and "tyranny" threatens to topple our democracy.

Let's face facts. It's never pleasant when activists are confronted with their own political impotence. (Not to mention their abysmal vote-counting skills.) But that's exactly what happened over the weekend as Democratic members of Congress passed health care reform -- reform that the radical right had already pronounced dead. In fact, the GOP Noise Machine had spent weeks dancing on reform's grave and mocking Democrats' inability to act. So how did it all go so terribly wrong for health care haters?

My hunch is that over the past few months, the right-wing media, along with self-adoring Tea Party members, made the mistake of believing their own hype. They convinced themselves that not only did 2 million people take to the streets of the nation's capital last September to protest Obama (a number that was off by 1.9 million), but that "millions" more had marched coast-to-coast over the past 12 months (a number that was completely fabricated). They fastidiously constructed their own parallel universe and convinced themselves that last summer's mini-mobs at local town hall forums had defeated health care reform. They thought their rowdy show of force, complete with Nazi and Hitler posters, and even some protesters parading around with loaded guns, had changed the debate.

Listening to Limbaugh, they thought they were dictating the agenda. Watching Fox News, they though they reflected the mainstream. And reading right-wing blogs, they thought they had killed health care reform.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong. It was the sudden and rude realization that, instead, they'd spent the past few months trapped inside an echo chamber, I think, that created the volcanic and unhinged response we've seen play out in recent days. It's the kind of childish and hysterical reaction I didn't think we'd ever witness from a major political movement.

Indeed, imagine if this is how progressives and Democrats had behaved during the run-up to the Iraq war, the last time the country found itself in this kind of national public policy "debate." Imagine if the liberal pundits and opinion makers had reacted to the prospect of war not with thoughtful anti-war analysis (analysis that, it turned out, was dead on), but instead opted for tantrums and shameful vitriol, the way right-wing pundits have in recent days and weeks.

For instance, imagine if the anti-war movement, and its highest-profile media supporters, had attacked military families whose sons and daughters were fighting in Iraq as the invasion unfolded. That kind of abhorrent behavior would have been universally condemned as just being beyond the pale. Yet last week, as its opposition to reform grew increasingly futile, the GOP Noise Machine dedicated lots of time and energy to mocking and attacking cancer-stricken patients, as well as a motherless 11-year-old boy who had the audacity to speak out in favor of health care reform.

Limbaugh's immortal words to the boy: "Your mom would have still died, because Obamacare doesn't kick in until 2014."

To me, the attacks indicated a withering of the right-wing media's shrinking moral compass, not to mention common sense. (Mocking the seriously ill is a winning political strategy?) It was another tell-tale sign of the unfolding, and unstoppable, nervous breakdown.

Because how else do you describe this kind of erratic, disturbed behavior? And it's worth repeating: This wasn't coming from minor, fringe players. It's been coming from the supposed leading lights of the conservative media; leading lights who, blinded by paranoia, have suffered a collective collapse and can no longer make sense of their surroundings.

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      • Author by bobklahn (March 24, 2010 8:21 pm ET)
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    • Author by ProgLib (March 23, 2010 7:28 am ET)
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      I'm loving this mental breakdown of these insane wing nuts at Fox and on talk radio... it just shows how ridiculously partisan they are. It shows how thin-skinned they are and they just can't stand any bit of change. It's like the world is ending for these people... did they say this when Medicare Part D was rammed through and the rich got more tax breaks? Did they say this when we foolishly and unconstitutionally invaded a country that NEVER attacked us? Hmm... golly gee willickers, it's a big surprise that they didn't. What happened to being Fair and Balanced and informing the American people with both sides of the debate? Obviously, they don't... they misinform and just stupefy every individual who wants to be informed on real issues. At this rate, the American people will become more stupid, more scared, more paranoid... I hate to say this, but it'll be like going back to post-9/11 time where everybody was scared out of their mind about what's going to happen thinking stuff like, are we going to get attacked? Are the terrorists going to kill us all? Is the world going to end? etc. I think people will eventually get out of that funk, but for now, we're on that route.
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      • Author by caphillprof3329 (March 23, 2010 8:29 am ET)
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        I think that's why the call it "fair and unbalanced." It's the unbalanced part that is coming to the fore.
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      • Author by Leftylib (March 23, 2010 9:01 am ET)
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        I'm sorry. I know this is going to sound petty of me, but I have to give my own analysis of the right wing's metal breakdown:

        I'M LOVIN' EVERY MINUTE OF IT!!!!

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      • Author by alienofwar (March 23, 2010 12:38 pm ET)
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        Yes, it's hypocritical that Republicans got to pass a 800 billion dollar Prescription drug plan that made drug manufacturers rich, but kicked and pulled away from a 900 billion dollar plan to draw in 30 million health insurance customers.

        The reality is that it's all about politics to the Republican party. They just want to get back into power.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (March 23, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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          They sold their soul for, at most, 20-30 house seats and 3-4 senate seats in the upcoming midterm election. Kinda sad, really.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (March 23, 2010 2:42 pm ET)
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            And what's really great is that now that people will have a chance in the next 6-7 months to realize that this bill was NOT in fact some kind of radical, socliast takeover, the Pub's will lose any and all credability with even right-center moderates and may now not even get those few seats they sold their souls for! Their current popularity, right now, might just be their high water mark this year. We'll see, but if this bill wan't going to be a big win for Democrats, the Republicans wouldn't have fought so hard to defeat it.

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            IMHO
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            • Author by carlileb5935 (March 23, 2010 9:04 pm ET)
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              Check out today's Harris poll. 49% of the respondents think that the Bill is a good start....
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            • Author by brodiman (March 23, 2010 10:38 pm ET)
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              Despite all of Beck's paranoid ramblings about Progressives lurking around the edges its the Pub's that never seem to dissipate into the irrelevance to which they so clearly belong. I suspect that no amount of facts or honest dissuasion will convince the Christian 'Moral Majority' that socialism does not, in fact, mean communism, and for us to progress as a nation we need to adopt the Social Democracies of Europe. They will go to great lengths to ensure that most of our tax dollars keep going to the military and not to education, health care, and infrastructure.
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              • Author by armadillo (March 24, 2010 12:32 am ET)
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                Every conservative's dream: "911 emergency, how will you pay?"
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                • Author by brodiman (March 24, 2010 11:30 am ET)
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                  I've always been kind of morbidly curious to see most government institutions privatized - see how fast most Republicans would abandon their tenets once they have no state-run hospitals, schools, police or social security. 'You lot want so much for government to get out of the way? Here you go.'
                  'But this is horrible! We're on our own here!'
                  'ORLY?'
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                  • Author by RSJ (March 25, 2010 7:51 pm ET)
                       
                    It's true, Brodiman: That wingnut 'freedom fighter' in Alabama who is advising his confused followers to break the windows of Dems who voted for health care reform lives on Social Security Disability. What if that 'big govt.' rug were pulled out from underneath him?

                    Consider this contrast, and what it says about our 'liberal' Big Media: While the righties tried to puff up the few hundred Teabaggers, some of whom harrassed John Lewis and Barney Frank with racist and homophobic insults, into representative of the American electorate, just blocks away a progressive immigration reform rally attracted 200,000 people. While I didn't expect heavy coverage of the immigration reform rally, I didn't even hear it mentioned.

                    Also, I think it's valuable to recall that the dying rattlesnake is always the most dangerous -- they lash out crazily at anything nearby. I just hope someone isn't killed by these Teabag crazies as they fade into irrelevance.
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      • Author by mari2jj (March 23, 2010 9:47 pm ET)
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        Can anyone tell me why Rush is still here after catagorically saying he would depart the country immediately if health care passed. I even offered to pack his bags for him so he could rush of to his favored destination where he would get good class health care. Only thing, they have universal health care there so I can only conclude that. as usual, Rush just did not know what the heck he was talking about once again. His whiny rant about leaving the country was so encouraging to me and alas, the goof is still here. He no longer has even the teensie weensie bit of credibility he used to have cause he was just blowing smoke with his threat. Poor, poor silly thing has made himself into a bafoon with no help from anyone else.
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        • Author by armadillo (March 24, 2010 12:33 am ET)
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          Uhm, Rush lies a lot.
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          • Author by Eric_Arthur_Blair (March 24, 2010 1:54 am ET)
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            At first I also thought I'd like to help him pack, but then I realized it would mean actually touching something he had actually worn - something that was in contact with his body - and I had to fight down the urge to puke. I'd rather conceal something highly illegal in his luggage and follow that up with an anonymous tip to a customs agent - something that would ensure that he'd never be able to come back.
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (March 24, 2010 8:15 am ET)
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            I know... there's this website you can check out...

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            IMHO
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        • Author by fabucat58 (March 25, 2010 11:37 am ET)
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          Oh where oh where is Rush going to move? Because every 1st world Western Democracy has a health care system that's even MORE advanced & socialized than the American system. Even Costa Rica has a better system! Let's draw up a petition to send Rush packing to Somalia! With the Islamist militia over there, Rushbo will discover that feminists are tortured or killed, guns are plentiful and patriarchy reigns supreme. It sounds like a paradise for Rush.
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      • Author by mari2jj (March 24, 2010 9:05 pm ET)
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        I think we will find out what an abject liar Rush is. I even offered to pack for him so he could flee the US but alas, he has not called on me. All their hand-wringing and threats were just silly. And here, all during the vote, I figured that the last time I would have to click by Fox and hear Rush would be the day health care passed. He is truly in a bind and I have heard some of his staunchest supporters worry about his lack of honesty on this issue. It definately turns out to be only a threat, not a promise as I had so hoped. As a moderate Republican, I find him totally embarrassing!! No happy face here for me for quite some time.
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    • Author by hippieprof (March 23, 2010 8:55 am ET)
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      FOX is the new Pravda, and I have taken to calling them "Pravda-FOX" whenever possible.

      It works for two reasons.

      First, it is accurate. FOX is nothing more than a propaganda machine.

      Second, it really gets on the nerves of right wingers to be compared to an agency of the old USSR.

      The only reason it doesn't work is that too many youngsters don't know what Pravda was.....

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    • Author by ignobilitor (March 23, 2010 9:07 am ET)
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      Regarding 'drawn and quartered', it's actually a tad bit more extreme than simple 'torture':
      1. Dragged on a hurdle (a wooden frame) to the place of execution. This is one possible meaning of drawn.[2]
      2.Hanged by the neck for a short time or until almost dead (hanged).
      3. Disembowelled and emasculated and the genitalia and entrails burned before the condemned's eyes (this is another meaning of drawn—see the reference to the Oxford English Dictionary below)[3][4]
      4. The body beheaded, then divided into four parts (quartered).
      Source: Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered
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    • Author by sheerinsanity (March 23, 2010 9:42 am ET)
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      Not to mention the teabaggers. Beck and Limbaugh could take a p--- on any one of these people and tell them it was raining and they would believe them.
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    • Author by Old55 (March 23, 2010 9:59 am ET)
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      I couldn't agree more. You don't recall during the Bush years any shouting out in the Congressional chambers by memebrs of the Democratic party. The right has talked about 'civility', yet listen to them -- actions speak louder than words. They are altogether 'uncivil'.

      This bill doesn't go nearly far enough, and it's nowhere near the 'death of private insurance'. If anything, the insurance and drug companies got what they wanted. The underlyginh system is still there.

      But back to the rhetoric from the right, I agree. It's completely unhinged. I've never seen anything like it.
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      • Author by captain_mike (March 23, 2010 3:56 pm ET)
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        The right has talked about 'civility', yet listen to them -- actions speak louder than words. They are altogether 'uncivil'


        Yeah, they talk a lot about morality and family values, too.
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    • Author by foresyte (March 23, 2010 10:03 am ET)
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      So this is what collective apoplexy looks like!

      Totally awesome.

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    • Author by Pedgi (March 23, 2010 10:17 am ET)
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      I live in a house (recently turned 18) where Fox News is on all day. Every day Fox News is on, all day I know my parents are listening. This is no exaggeration. In fact, I'm worried. My parents are incensed and are discussing how an armed revolution is just what this country needs. If this escalates any further, I'm leaving the country as fast as possible and heading off somewhere with greener grass.
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      • Author by fabucat58 (March 25, 2010 11:43 am ET)
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        Pedgi, don't give up on the USA just yet. Hopefully you won't be financially dependent on the 'rents for long. You might just want to move out of your house, to some progressive group house in the nearest urban area. For example, a buddy of mine grew up "different" in Jackson, MS in the '60s and he even found some "fellow travelers" there. Going to college or community college also is a great way to meet good people. Funny how "freethinkers" like to gravitate around getting an education, lol.
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      • Author by RushisRIGHT (March 25, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
           
        Typical 18 year old. Wake up.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (March 23, 2010 10:24 am ET)
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      Is it their "19th Nervous Breakdown"

      You're the kind of person
      You meet at certain dismal dull affairs.
      Center of a crowd, talking much too loud
      Running up and down the stairs.
      Well, it seems to me that you have seen too much in too few years.
      And though you've tried you just can't hide
      Your eyes are edged with tears.

      You better stop
      Look around
      Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
      Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown.

      When you were a child
      You were treated kind
      But you were never brought up right.
      You were always spoiled with a thousand toys
      But still you cried all night.
      Your mother who neglected you
      Owes a million dollars tax.
      And your father's still perfecting ways of making sealing wax.

      You better stop, look around
      Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
      Here comes your nilne-teenth nervous breakdown.

      Oh, who's to blame, that girl's just insane.
      Well nothing I do don't seem to work,
      It only seems to make matters worse. Oh please.

      You were still in school
      When you had that fool
      Who really messed your mind.
      And after that you turned your back
      On treating people kind.
      On our first trip
      I tried so hard to rearrange your mind.
      But after while I realized you were disarranging mine.

      You better stop, look around
      Here it comes, here it comes, here it comes, here it comes
      Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown.
      Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown
      Here comes your nine-teenth nervous breakdown
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 23, 2010 6:55 pm ET)
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        Rock on, Mick
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      • Author by fabucat58 (March 25, 2010 11:45 am ET)
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        BRAVO! Anyone who quotes one of my fave Stones songs is A-OK with me!

        BTW, Mick, for all of his sexism, is pretty much of a progressive.
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 25, 2010 3:53 pm ET)
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        OMG.

        Every time I revisit this thread, I get this song stuck in my head! LOL
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    • Author by the red terror (March 23, 2010 10:54 am ET)
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      Re: ... "the sudden and rude realization that, instead, they'd spent the past few months trapped inside an echo chamber" ...

      Eric, it's been a couple days, and I'm unconvinced they have made that realization as yet.

      I've checked Hot Air and NRO Corner every couple hours since David Frum posted his incendiary "Waterloo" commentary about the GOP's self-destructive scorched-earth strategy, and not a one of KLO or Lowry or Jonah or any of them has dared to confront Frum. Not one. At NRO it's 24/7 nonsense about Mitt's tantrum, "repealing" the bill and, God love them, political scenes across the Atlantic. British politics. Otherwise, it's crickets chirping. Nothing about Frum's pointed critique whatsoever.

      Frum is a rare exception. Most of these clowns have yet to wake up and account for anything. They are still a dysfunctional echo chamber. They are gutless. And they are in deep, deep denial.
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      • Author by fabucat58 (March 25, 2010 11:48 am ET)
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        I actually wrote David Frum a "thank you" email. He wrote me a nice note back.
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    • Author by cuardai (March 23, 2010 11:21 am ET)
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      Believe it or not we actually need the GOP, we are a two party system, so I hope they finish their breakdown, pick themselves up, figure out who they want to be (a real party or a shadow of one that is bigoted, ignorant and obstructionist) and come back to reality...well I can dream can't I?
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      • Author by gg (March 23, 2010 12:11 pm ET)
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        I agree we are best with a 2 party system but it doesn't have to be the GOP, at the rate they are going they are resurrecting the Know-Nothing Party.
        As far as Faux News, their motto can now officially be change to unfair and completely unbalanced, in every sense of the word.
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      • Author by grmce (March 23, 2010 12:20 pm ET)
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        Correct. There is an old adage that "bad oppositions make for bad government".
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      • Author by manofmystique (March 23, 2010 12:57 pm ET)
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        to cuardai
        Yes, but Republicans are not doing anything on behalf of the American people. They are not doing the work they were elected to do, instead they are only out to serve themselves. Do you think tax payers should pay Republicans for their dis-engaged political process of democracy? Should they be rewarded for obstruction? Should the Party act like a mob or should they act like professional elected officials?
        We don't need people who are not willing to do their job....
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      • Author by jediknight65 (March 23, 2010 2:30 pm ET)
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        i agree with you, but the reality is that wont happen
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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 24, 2010 12:25 am ET)
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        cuardai I hope like you that sanity will return to the REPUBLICANS, but i really fear that the lunitic fringe crazies will maintain their death grip on the controls of the party.
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        • Author by cuardai (March 24, 2010 10:18 am ET)
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          After what I am seeing on the news about lawsuits against health care, I'm beginning to see that perhaps we do need something other than the Republicans. But I do believe they have to be conservative at the very least (maybe those conservative democrats can split and be a new party??)

          My point was that we do need two parties for the system to really work.
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      • Author by bvckvs (March 24, 2010 1:26 am ET)
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        In middle schools, they teach that the US is not a "two-party" system, but rather it's a "partisan" system.
        In fact, we've got something like a dozen politiIcal parties.
        I addition to the D's and R's, there's the greens, the libertarians, the nazis, the socialists and soooo many more.

        They're ashamed of and angry at each other right now.
        So your offer to give them a clean slate, a new party with no old baggage, would probably be like a gift from GOD.

        Better to just let them publicly wallow in their own filth - so Americans can see them for what they are.
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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 23, 2010 11:53 am ET)
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      Many people say President Obama has increased racial division in the USA.The opposite is the truth.The republican party has drawn on the large amounts of racism hidden in closets and warehouses all over the USA.They have drawn on this and used it as a secret weapon for the past 50 years.The republicans called out all troops.This caused the biggest draw down of hidden racism since Ronald Reagan.This call-out of reserve racism called out the retired reserves.But it was all for the wrong war.The republican party called to battle all of their supply of stored hidden racism in the USA.The republican party used all of the stored racism to fight a POTUS who is not considered to be white who was not elected on a racial agenda.The republicans sent all of their racism troops into battle against an enemy that does not exist.The republicans have suffered high casualties of their racism army.The high casualties resulted from them ordering their troops to charge into the ocean.This will make it very hard for the republicans to use their secret weapon that is now severely weakened and not a secret.The republicans will have to fight future battles on merit,something they do not have
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      • Author by ukobserver (March 23, 2010 12:03 pm ET)
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        To quote another song:

        "You ain't seen nothing yet!!"

        Wait until they start on immigration reform.

        You think the signs are bad now?

        You think the rhetoric is overblown?

        You think the hate has reached it's heights?

        When they start on reforming immigration you will see a tsunami of undiluted sewage vomiting forth from the mouths of those on the right that will not have been seen in the US since the Civil Rights Marches.

        There is something that l call the "Infinite Memory Void Of The Right Wing Echo Chamber". This is where the majority of the right wing media, commentators and bloggers lurk and it stops them not only looking back at the mistakes they have made in the past, but allows them to ignore the large amounts of hypocrisy which enables them to protest actions they have themselves taken in the past, "Deem and Pass" being the latest example.
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        • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 23, 2010 12:37 pm ET)
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          This may may be a tactical battle move by the Commander in Chief to force the republicans to put all of their injured troops in to battle where they will be defeated.The republicans will be forced to use large amounts of Middle East money.The Saudi Arabia,Fox News,Republican Party connection and purpose will be exposed.The USA oil imports January,2010 were less than January 2009.This is very sufficient when a recovering economy imported less oil than one in deep deep recession.Chevron recently announced they were eliminating several thousand jobs.The reason,because they are converting from an oil company to a gas company.Western Hemisphere gas reserves contain more energy than all the oil reserves of the Middle East and Russia their partner,and all of the world's coal reserves combined.As I stated earlier.When the republicans secret racism weapon is severely crippled they will have to fight battles on merit and honor that they do not have,because they work with and for enemies of the USA people.Exxon,Chevron..etc -and -Koch(heritage foundation)Saudi Arabia,the republicans are not on the same side on many matters.
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        • Author by puttforever4682 (March 23, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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          Blues Magoos ? or are their other versions?
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          • Author by MiniTru (March 23, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
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            If you're referring to 19th Nervous Breakdown, it's an old Stones song.
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            • Author by MiniTru (March 23, 2010 3:30 pm ET)
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              Sorry, I just saw "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet."

              Yep, that's Blues Magoos.
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      • Author by aerdna (March 23, 2010 3:29 pm ET)
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        Increased racism is not the 'fault' of President Obama.
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      • Author by gregpl (March 23, 2010 11:56 pm ET)
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        Yes, I really didn't know just how racist they were until now.
        There level of hated is scary.
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    • Author by CoolSlaw (March 23, 2010 12:22 pm ET)
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      Eric Boehlert,

      Your editorials are always a fun and interesting read.

      Keep up the good work!
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    • Author by grmce (March 23, 2010 12:27 pm ET)
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      There does seem to be an awful lot of nastiness about. It also seems to be a bit loopy out.

      The Right Whinge seems to have morphed into a dream sequence (pun intended). The problem now is that all the sleepwalkers are waking up.
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    • Author by LagalLeft (March 23, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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      This article is so on the money. I have watched fox for a few days
      ( wasn't easy on my BP ) just to see their reaction to the passage of the bill. The pundits on Fox look like they're going to blubber like a spoiled child who had his candy snatched away. It's quite amazing that they want America to slide backwards into the 1950's.
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    • Author by Mikki SE Pa (March 23, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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      I was most impressed with Mr. Boehlert's cool, calm, and thorough review of the total hysteria of the republican-conservative-faux "news"-far far right wing-nuts over the last weekend.
      It is a shame that this breakdown has brought with it the complete disrobing of the rabid right's racism and bigotry. They have left no doubt that they are the party of "no," as well as of liars and hypocrites. But faux "news" will undoubtedly take another tack.
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    • Author by donwelty (March 23, 2010 4:05 pm ET)
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      The Republican Party seems to have drifted to the right, and they may have drifted so far that they will go the way of the Whigs--complete irrelevance.

      I have never seen such lies, distortions, illogic, ad hominem attacks, and racism since the civil rights struggles of the 1960s. The Tea-baggers brought insults, insanity, and guns to a rally. How were the night-time gatherings of the KKK different?

      I could have lived with John McCain as president. I wouldn't like his policies, but he is a man of some character. Why did a lot of people think he was too far left? Both Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh spoke at the CPAC as keynote speakers. Beck appeared to be a bit more coherent and logical than Limbaugh, but think of it. Are these the types of people who should be leading political events? Are these the moral leaders of the conservatives? Can they not do better than alcoholic, pill-popping, cocaine snorting college dropouts?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 23, 2010 7:01 pm ET)
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        Can they not do better than alcoholic, pill-popping, cocaine snorting college dropouts?


        Evidently not.
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      • Author by cbinns47 (March 23, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
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        They didn't exactly "drift" to the right. They sold their soul to the devil in the 1960s by realizing they could leave the desert they had wandered in since the New Deal by cashing in on the backwash from the Democrats' moral victory in supporting civil rights.

        They immediately won the presidency (Nixon's "Southern strategy") and began picking off southern Democrats, adopting the politics of resentment and anger and self-pity that were the hallmark of southern white racists. They surged with the Reagan victory, reached high-water marks with the 1994 deluge, entered the decadent over-ripe era with Bush 43, and entered a death spiral with the 2006 and 2008 elections.

        They are now in the highly virulent but increasingly marginalized stage in which even the party leaders have lost control to the most rococco fringe elements like Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, and the Tea Party crowd. They are now a essentially a regional, white, male, revanchist splinter group.

        There will always be a conservative party. There is no guarantee that it will be this one.
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      • Author by gregpl (March 23, 2010 11:59 pm ET)
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        Right on. Perfect post.
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      • Author by louee (March 25, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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        I beg to differ. I no longer think McCain is a man of character. He has allowed himself to be coopted by the far right of his party for political expediency. He's a certified liar and is giving comfort to the traitorous lawbreakers who call themselves tea partiers. In short, he's a disgrace.
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    • Author by lpbnj (March 23, 2010 6:53 pm ET)
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      the epitome of heartlessness and cruelty was the video of the teabaggers heckling the poor man with parkinsons disease in the wheelchair -thatimage haunts me -and the thought that our citizens have been turned into monsters by the hate mongerers like limpbaugh, dreck and fox news in general--i so hope that the Dems win in November --it will be the right wing medias waterloo--we can only hope it will be so
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    • Author by Reinhard (March 23, 2010 6:55 pm ET)
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      Why is Rush still here?
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    • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 7:30 pm ET)
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      "Yet last week, as its opposition to reform grew increasingly futile, the GOP Noise Machine dedicated lots of time and energy to mocking and attacking cancer-stricken patients, as well as a motherless 11-year-old boy who had the audacity to speak out in favor of health care reform."

      Are you kidding me, Eric Boehlert?!! This was a terrorist tactic, throwing women and children in front of the debate hoping conservatives would drop a bomb on them. Thanks for your cry-ass progressivism using women and children as fodder to advance your agenda. Very noble of you.

      I hate to break it to you, but the left is not the paragon of purity you make the case for. I'm not sure where you were in 2003 but I remember plenty of Bush effigies being burnt, long live Fallujah,and down with America posters. Those were your people. Besides, the Iraq war was not a completely partisan policy, it is a poor comparison, more than half the country did not oppose the invasion when it happened.

      Your sacrosant attitude is self-serving and only increases the outrage by those who feel helpless against a congress who they feel isn't listening. The elitist comtempt expressed by progressives is far more dangerous than honest outrage towards a deaf congress.

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      • Author by Conchobhar (March 23, 2010 7:44 pm ET)
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        Terrorist? Really? Stop listening to Beck and Limbaugh, and see if you can qualify for a night course in language or logic.
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        • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 9:43 pm ET)
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          Again with that progressive attitude. Always telling people what to do. You are a perfect example of that elitist attitude. But again, no real reply, just an "I'm smarter than you" remark you leave dangling like that makes your remarks legitimate.

          Obama should be ashamed for bringing a child to the frontlines of the battle over healthcare.
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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 23, 2010 9:49 pm ET)
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            >>You are a perfect example of that elitist attitude.

            Really? Now you want to take the high road, after comparing Obama to a terrorist? Obama shouldn't be ashamed at all. This may be news to you, but real people are dying because of a lack of health care in this country.
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            • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 10:06 pm ET)
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              And people are dying after being bitten in the ass by snakes coming up through their toilets. Its a rough world.

              Besides I didn't compare Obama to a terrorist, I compared his tactics to terrorist tactics. There is a difference.

              And no, I didn't ever use an elitist attitude. I never presumed to tell someone what they thought.
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              • Author by funnymanpants (March 24, 2010 12:15 am ET)
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                >>Besides I didn't compare Obama to a terrorist, I compared his tactics to terrorist tactics. There is a difference.

                No it's not. And your statement about people dying from snake bites doesn't answer my argument. Since people are dying from lack of health care in this country, it was appropriate for Obama to use the child as an example.
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              • Author by Conchobhar (March 24, 2010 12:23 am ET)
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                >>You are a perfect example of that elitist attitude.


                Thanks, pop, but nobody's perfect, not even me. And my attitude, as you call it, isn't progressive at all. Arrogant, perhaps. I do find it interesting, and consistent, that you rightwingers, who never tire of name-calling, should be so thin-skinned yourselves.

                To be serious about semantics, however, there is actual terrorism going on now around the health care debate, and it's coming from the right. You may be aware that a number of Democratic Representatives' offices have been vandalized, with anti-HCR messages wrapped around bricks thrown through windows. Congresswoman Slaughter has received an email threatening her children with "assassination." That, my fellow American, is terrorism. Your use of the term was over the top, and debases the debate.

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              • Author by blk-in-alabam (March 24, 2010 10:28 am ET)
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                Been listening to lawyer admitted propagandist Neal Bortz?
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          • Author by fabucat58 (March 25, 2010 12:03 pm ET)
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            I fondly recall when we progressives were the rude, great unwashed masses and conservative Ivy League elitists such as Bill Buckley schooled us anti-war hippies on proper dress, spelling, vocabulary and culture. I usually did not agree with Buckley, but I sure did admire his level of education and the way he expressed himself. Buckley had an "I'm smarter than you are" attitude because, in most instances, it was the truth. Buckley DID know more than I did, even though I didn't agree with his conclusions. In that way, Buckley encouraged his opponents to expand their minds and learn more about the world. It says a lot about Buckley that near the end, one of his best friends was that liberal elitist intellectual, former Sen. McGovern.

            Now, as David Brooks has so brilliantly stated, it is those on the right who are the rude, violent great unwashed. Poproxx77, these "liberal elitists" whom you so despise should be your model. You don't have to agree with anything that Pres. Obama says to admire his wit, his intellect, and his style. You can seek to emulate the elitists and the elitist quest to be the best and still maintain your conservative views.
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          • Author by louee (March 25, 2010 4:03 pm ET)
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            Anybody who doesn't agree with your unhinged rantings has 'tude. There's no one on the left behaving in the outrageous manner of the teabaggers. And you foolishly berate Obama for "bringing a child to the frontlines"? You don't think he's already on the frontlines of being uninsured while all of you simply turn your backs? The more I read posts like yours the more it becomes clear there's some terrible virus going on among conservatives that has caused them to lose their ever-lovin' minds. You're the latest example.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (March 23, 2010 8:08 pm ET)
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        So, if I get you right, you're comparing an 11-year old boy whose mother died to a war criminal.

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        • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 9:31 pm ET)
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          Again with the twisting words. Show me please where I said the 11-year old boy was a terrorist. Can't make a comment without trying to twist. I compared Obama and his ilks to terrorists, using the same tactics, using women and children as human shields. Fantasy land is a fun place to live I know, but do come back to visit from time to time.
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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 23, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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            >>I compared Obama and his ilks to terrorists, using the same tactics, using women and children as human shields.

            Good comparison. Except terrorists actually kill people. But besides that small difference, great analogy.
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (March 23, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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              Poppy missed that I accurately reflected his comparison of the criticism of the boy to the criticism of George W. Bush (war criminal).
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              • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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                Nope. I just didn't know that George W. Bush was synonymous with war criminal. I must have missed the trial.

                Maybe you didn't read Eric's article. I was replying to his comments on how civil progressives were after the Iraq invasion compared to how horrible conservatives have been during the healthcare debate.

                I never compared "the boy" to terrorists. Try again.
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                • Author by funnymanpants (March 24, 2010 12:19 am ET)
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                  >>I was replying to his comments on how civil progressives were after the Iraq invasion compared to how horrible conservatives have been during the healthcare debate.

                  I must have missed that comparison. Because after comparing Obama to a terrorist, you then went on to not name any specific uncivil comments by the anti-war leaders, instead throwing out a few generalities.
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            • Author by poproxx77 (March 23, 2010 10:11 pm ET)
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              Again. note the reference to terrorist tactics, not to terrorists themselves.

              Your only arguement is based on something you said not me. You shouldn't try to make me say something I never said. It is dishonest.
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              • Author by funnymanpants (March 24, 2010 12:17 am ET)
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                >>Again. note the reference to terrorist tactics, not to terrorists themselves.

                There is no difference. That is like saying someone is like a murderer for killing animals, and then saying you didn't compare them to a murderer, just what they did.
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              • Author by AC_Mem (March 24, 2010 12:40 am ET)
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                Backpeddling a little there poproxx? There have been several people out there making terrorist threats against the president on the bloggs and/or accusing him of being a terroist. Even someone completely unhinged asking for asassination of our dear President on twitter. The Secret Service are taking care of that guy because they don't think that dangerous talk like that is "free speech". Threatening the President is a federal crime
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      • Author by JiminVA (March 23, 2010 8:31 pm ET)
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        Of course the left is not pure. My god, we have Barney Frank whose lover ran some kind of prostitution ring out of Frank's house!! However, I don't remember burning Bush effigies or long live Fallujah or down with America posters. I'm sure they existed but did they march on the capital and spit on Congress members and attack service members' families?
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      • Author by funnymanpants (March 23, 2010 9:47 pm ET)
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        >>Your sacrosant attitude is self-serving and only increases the outrage by those who feel helpless against a congress who they feel isn't listening.

        Yes, the way about half the country felt when Bush went to war in Iraq. Then, Bush was lying, exactly as we on the left said. Today, it is the right that is still lying, exactly as we have been saying.

        There were people burning Bush in effigy, but those people weren't the leaders of the movement.
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      • Author by creeksneakers2 (March 23, 2010 10:05 pm ET)
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        Deaf?

        Most of what Bush and the GOP did was unpopular, like cutting Social Security and letting Wall Street steal all the money. The right wing at that time did nothing but praise Bush for being a brave soul "who didn't let the polls dictate what he was going to do."

        See what hypocrites you guys are?

        The latest poll shows 48% of American like the new health care law while 40% don't. Is there any chance that the GOP will listen to the plurality? When they ignore the verdict of the public, will you say they've turned a deaf ear, hypocrite?
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      • Author by Bulletproof Air (March 23, 2010 10:38 pm ET)
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        "Are you kidding me, Eric Boehlert?!! This was a terrorist tactic, throwing women and children in front of the debate hoping conservatives would drop a bomb on them. Thanks for your cry-ass progressivism using women and children as fodder to advance your agenda. Very noble of you."

        Limbaugh and Beck are the ones who threw children in the debate...Eric was just giving an example of how they did it and how it displayed their ignorance by resorting to attacking a LITTLE KID instead of inspiring SUBSTANTIVE debate about actual policy...

        But that would require somebody to engage in elitist activities, such as READING.

        ...THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE of the kind of person I described in my previous post.

        Congratulations, poproxx77, you represent the stereotypical teabagger.

        I'm done, but guys, don't feed the troll...you're just as bad as he is if you do. A good one-liner is OK though.



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      • Author by cugagcmu805031 (March 23, 2010 11:05 pm ET)
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        I'll guess that you had nothing at all to say when Shadegg brought the baby named Matty onto the floor of the House and pretended to speak for her against HCR. The president didn't pay for Marcellas' trip from Seattle to D.C. We HCAN members paid for him and his grandmother to go to D.C.

        If elitism can be described as knowing what one is talking about, count me in. I'm allergic to people who regurgitate rw talking points created by those who know nothing about any subject, and there are a lot of them around. Just because one has a platform that gives him/her access to the public doesn't mean that he/she actually knows about the topics they talk about.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (March 24, 2010 11:27 am ET)
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        "I'm not sure where you were in 2003 but I remember plenty of Bush effigies being burnt, long live Fallujah,and down with America posters."

        Yeah, apparently YOU were not in the United States if you saw what you described.

        Yeah, I dunno where you saw this because the media didn't do any reporting of the anti-war gatherings that were ten times the size of the teabagger crowds back then.

        And stop pretending that foreign protests of the war were a common sight at the anti-war protests of 2003's America. No one in the United States said "Long live Fallujah". no one, and you know it.
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    • Author by Russ139 (March 23, 2010 7:37 pm ET)
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      Yes, it's cranked up louder than ever. But the sentiments have been nasty for decades.

      How is what we see today any different than, for example, the famous phrase, "The Government is not the solution; the Government is the problem." (Ronald Regan) He is the Father of Modern conservatism in more ways than one!
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (March 23, 2010 8:05 pm ET)
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      This is shear,absolute joy to watch these worthless fear and hatemongers come completely unglued when they realized they lost.Coulden't happen to a more deserving bunch of far RIGHT WING garbage.
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    • Author by snewkirk (March 23, 2010 8:09 pm ET)
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      I've been pushin the Beck-Jim Jones comparison for a while. People keep drinking the Beck Kool-aid (figuratively).
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    • Author by Jeremy Danials (March 23, 2010 9:23 pm ET)
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      Ohhh yesss!!! YesYesYesYesYesYesYesYes!!! Your tears of anguish and anger nourish me! Cyr!, Cry, and fill my body with your pain, that I might feel joy!

      The Reagan Revolution is dead. Long Live Liberalism!
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (March 24, 2010 6:14 am ET)
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        Break out the party hats, but don't get carried away Byte Man...

        Yes, we should celebrate the fact that the republicans failed to stop one major piece of slightly -kinda-sort-of -liberal-ish legislation from passing.

        There are still millions and millions of misinformed, angry, willfully ignorant Americans out there and a multi billion dollar right wing media industry to keep shoveling lies and fear into their heads every minute of every day.
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    • Author by Clear (March 23, 2010 9:43 pm ET)
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      The right's loss is also about form. It's not just about what they believe. It's about their beliefs about belief. To them, belief is a solid object you must clutch and defend with your life. Holding it properly is a lesson in true manhood. Since they've backed themselves into a corner content-wise, they can't come out because that would entail a loss of form, viz., "You know, I may have been a bit wrong."

      Ideology is not so much what you believe, but how you believe.
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    • Author by little poncho (March 23, 2010 9:54 pm ET)
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      How many Americans' did the cowboy president,(ronnie reagen) put out of work? I suppose these right wing crack pots, would blame President Obama, if they could think of a way to do it...
      The problem with all these hate mongers,they can't handle change....They want to keep the statis quo, by letting the green moss keep growing around their chairs'....... If the hate mongers don't like change, costra rica would welcome them!!! The bushie tax breaks are comming to an end!!!!!!!!
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    • Author by Clear (March 23, 2010 10:17 pm ET)
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      Another thought: the cynicism with which you're supposed to hold your beliefs (see my previous) has been totally negated, at least for now. This is a big deal. Cynicism in laissez faire societies tells you that ideas are products and that the best people are the most powerful product sellers. Rush et al. thought they had the most powerful product salesmanship. This vote is nothing short of emasculating for them. That's why they're so dangerous right now.
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    • Author by Bulletproof Air (March 23, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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      Eric, you COMPLETELY nailed this.

      People can only stay angry for SO long until they start asking why they're angry in the first place...and when the world doesn't end and people have easier and cheaper access to health insurance, the Democrats will be able to take FULL CREDIT for ANY improvement in our health care system, regardless if this bill had ANYTHING to do with it, thanks to Republicans, the Democrats OWN this bill....they also own the 30,000,000 voters they more or less just bought out!

      Republicans just better hope these 30,000,000 people don't vote...

      Sometimes I wonder what names and taglines the right will use whenever we win in Nov. and actually pass the Public Option...seeing as we're already Socialist...

      It doesn't matter what political party you belong to, if you've actually had a decent education, it's blatantly obvious the Right-wing (Republicans) have actually become SLAVES to their extreme base. They have a fear of losing their base by appearing too "liberal," so they go beyond that thin line in order to make that statement.

      Also, this hate speech is the kind of thing that attracts people who aren't quite smart enough to debate actual legislative policy. Fox, Teabaggers AND Republicans haven't made ANY REAL arguments rooted in substance, concerning this bill, but instead spend their time inciting anger and emotions as opposed to engaging minds and winning voters for the long term.

      Republicans are proving to be their own worst enemies, and in their race for short-term politics, their lies "peaked" out MONTHS ago.

      REAL Conservatives, like David Frum, have been appearing on MSNBC and speaking OUT against their Republican "brethren" because this extremist movement seems to be devouring Republican values one by one, and it seems they're living in a fantasy where the world revolves around them and everything they don't agree with is unconstitutional.

      And speaking of this, I want to know how much TAXPAYER DOLLARS our states are spending in order to sue the Gov't with the goal of REINSTATING insurance corporations' "right" to deny sick kids coverage......I can just SEE the Democratic attack ads now...

      I mean...yea...keep fighting this bill, Republicans...those 30,000,000 people aren't REAL AMERICAN voters...so their ballots don't count...

      I HOPE they keep up the rhetoric...I HOPE they actually end up melding with the GOP. They are killing themselves from the inside out.

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      • Author by CoolSlaw (March 24, 2010 6:28 am ET)
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        Not so fast!

        I urge all liberals to take a deep breath, congratulate the democratic party, smile, and then take another deep breath.

        Don't for one minute think any of the deeply invested right wing media consumers will see the light of truth or facts about anything anytime soon.

        Recent history has proven time and time again, that the right wing media machine can tell their consumers "X = Y" one day, and then the next day say "X = Z" and that they never said "X = Y" and that anyone who claims they ever said "X = Y" is a socialist thug who wants to destroy America.

        Then the right wing media consumer will angrily nod their head because X most assuredly has always equaled Z!
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    • Author by wookie294 (March 23, 2010 11:23 pm ET)
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      I believe the financiers of the Noise Machine have a purpose. The purpose is to create enough noise to drown out voices from the Left, which it successfully does. By financing this loud machine, the debate focuses entirely on Democratic Centrists vs. Noise Machine and the Left is ignored. The health care debate of the last 12 months has completely ignored Single Payer. I believe this is the primary purpose of the Noise Machine -- to block Single Payer. We liberals fall into the trap every time.
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    • Author by gregpl (March 23, 2010 11:40 pm ET)
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      Fox news, talk radio and the republican party has sunk to low I didn't think possible. How they can be so uncaring about so many people is really sad. Hard to believe but these people are just simply evil.
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    • Author by justagrl1014 (March 24, 2010 5:05 am ET)
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      I actually did have a righty go a bit far and say in a tweet that they would die first before letting this happen. I was like omg. Calm down. I did send out a please check on this person if you know them tweet to the Twitoverse. I am sure they were just blowing off steam... :-( Sad really and kind of frightening in many ways.
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    • Author by barscotch9441 (March 24, 2010 1:11 pm ET)
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      Respected Mr. Boehlert:

      Not to nit-pick, but it's worse than you say. Drawing and quartering is more than a method of torture; it's a method of torturous execution. Drawn means pulled by horses. Quartered means separated into 4 pieces. So to draw and quarter someone is to have them pulled apart by horses.

      Of course, stretching them partially first is always part of it. Then they finally smack the horses in the butts and let them run, pulling apart the victim.

      And that's no BS.
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      • Author by DellDolly (March 24, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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        That's not actually what happened in that method of execution. You're close, but you missed several things.

        One was "drawn" to the gallows and hung. But not long enough to die - they didn't drop you to break your neck, they just suffocated you for a while.

        Then they would pull you down, and cut out your intestines and burn them - to torture YOU and scare anyone watching.

        Then they'd cut your head off. THEN they'd cut your body into quarters and/or pull it apart with 4 horses.

        They left your mourners with a horrific thing to bury. It was the punishment for treason.
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    • Author by Rodrian Roadeye (March 24, 2010 3:44 pm ET)
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      'Tis a sad, sad, day in Mudville..."Mighty Righty" has struck out.

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    • Author by Hank Steelbranch (March 25, 2010 2:03 pm ET)
         
      To quote Michael Corleone, "It's not personal, it's strictly business". What does "The Godfather" have to do with the conservative culture contamination club otherwise known as Fox News, you ask? In the end, everything boils down to dollars and cents, or in this case, nonsense. I'm afraid that you are mistaken if you believe that many at Fox are genuinely upset about the passage of the health care bill. My guess is that ratings skyrocketed over the weekend,just as they did after Obama's election, and Rupert Murdoch is laughing all the way to the bank. This is a goldmine for Fox, and as the mouthpiece for a significant demographic, they will exploit it very creatively and in endless ways.
      I question if any of the talking heads at Fox have core beliefs (beyond the importance of material success and the acquisition of power) of any kind. They cynically and skillfully manipulate, and in some cases even create, the mindset of their audience in order to profit from it. This is actually far worse than the situation you describe, because when dealing with an honest, true believer, there is at least a chance that, through discussion and compromise,you can change their mind. Fox has no interest in compromise or resolution, there is no financial upside to it. Battles and gaping wounds are far more remunerative.
      Sadly, we can observe a similar phenomenon in many "news" organizations these days. The public is not so much educated as they are exploited. Specific demographics are identified, locked up, catered to, and then pitted against each other. Nobody learns anything, no problems are solved, the country goes further down the tubes, but it makes for good television.
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    • Author by nwcgrad2008 (March 26, 2010 2:18 am ET)
         
      Eric,
      well written, snappy job on this one!!!

      imagine the sound bites in the campaign :)

      though sadly, some of the right-wing sheep are good people being used only for their vote...
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