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Hutcherson: Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, "liberal minds ... trying to take over our courts" are looters; Dobson agrees

September 21, 2005 5:39 pm ET

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On the September 20 broadcast of James Dobson's Focus on the Family radio show, Ken Hutcherson, pastor of Antioch Bible Church in Redmond, Washington, identified "three types of looters" in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. "The first set," Hutcherson said, "came in, stole clothes, stole food, stole appliances, stole televisions." Then he stated, "The second set of looters ... was the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons," whom he accused of "[coming] in and [saying] they are representing all the black community. ... They are the ones who said they are stealing power from us." Hutcherson continued: "[T]he third set of looters that's even worse, that's taking advantage of this whole situation, is the liberal minds who's [sic] trying to take over our courts."

Continuing his criticism of "liberal minds," Hutcherson asked Dobson, "[C]an you believe and understand, 17 out of 17 states voted against same-sex marriage? ... Then the courts came along and says [sic], 'Your vote is unconstitutional.' " Dobson replied, "That's looting."

According to his website, Hutcherson was a "three-time special guest speaker on the Billy Graham Crusade team." Hutcherson has been a staunch opponent of same-sex marriage and has organized several protest events, including a "Mayday for Marriage" event that, according to an October 15, 2004, Washington Post article, was held "to decry same-sex marriage and 'let everyone know God is in control' of the [2004] elections." Hutcherson has made repeated appearances on the air with Dobson, who affectionately calls him "Hutch."

From Dobson's interview with Hutcherson and Star Parker, founder and president of the Coalition on Urban Renewal and Education, on the September 20 broadcast of Focus on the Family:

HUTCHERSON: The thing that I was saying over and over and over again is how the looters are working so well that -- it isn't just the looters. There's three types of looters that's involved with this tragedy and Katrina. And we need to understand all three. Now, the first set of looters that took advantage of Katrina was the looters that came in, stole clothes, stole food, stole appliances, stole televisions, and then once they stole these things, all of a sudden, they started believing, "This is mine. This belongs to me now." And many of them's never had things because the black community, the black caucus, the mayor, and the governor didn't step up before Katrina. So now they got these things. So when the rescue boats and the rescue helicopters start going in, they start shooting at the boats. They start shooting at the helicopters. And many people don't understand -- "What is going on?" I'll tell you what's going on: ownership. They think that now this is mine, and you are not taking it. So all of a sudden, we got a whole new program that was going on that they wasn't ready. So everyone said, "These looters are terrible. We gotta get rid of it. They're giving the city a bad name. They're giving the people a bad name, and the good citizens, and the police officers ought to step up and take care of this because they gonna make us look terrible in this situation." Which they did. Then --

DOBSON: Now that's the first --

HUTCHERSON: That was the first looters. All right? So we all agree that they are bad. The second set of looters that came in was the Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons. All right? They're just as much looters as the ones that was stealing.

DOBSON: In what sense?

HUTCHERSON: Because what they did was they came in and said they are representing all the black community. They're speaking for the black community. They are the ones who said they are stealing power from us. We seem to be the only people that needs leaders.

DOBSON: Mm-hmm.

HUTCHERSON: And so, what they are saying is, "Man, we're going to loot this situation" --

DOBSON: Self-appointed.

HUTCHERSON: -- "and we're going to take advantage of this situation." And now they're getting a free hand, but when people like myself, or when people like Star, or people even like Bill Cosby, start saying some of our problems is brought on by us, these self-appointed looters start shooting back at you with their mouths. And so we back off and we let 'em run. Well, we're not going to do that anymore. There's -- there's a new sheriff in town in the black community, and that's conservatives who believe in the word of God, that's gonna stand on that word of God, and we're not gonna put up with any more looters that's stealing clothes, that's stealing the culture.

And then the third set of looters that's even worse, that's taking advantage of this whole situation, is the liberal minds who's trying to take over our courts, which we're gonna need immediately. Dr. Dobson, can you believe and understand, 17 out of 17 states voted against same-sex marriage?

DOBSON: Mm-hmm.

HUTCHERSON: Then the courts came along and says, "Your vote is unconstitutional."

DOBSON: Doesn't count. That's looting.

HUTCHERSON: It doesn't -- that's looting. And we have put up with that. And then we got the [Sen. Charles E.] Schumers [D-NY] and then we have the [Sen. Edward M.] Kennedys [D-MA], and then we got the MoveOn.org, and then we got the People of the American Way [sic]. I wanna ask this question: "Where are the people with a moral standard that call themselves Democrats? Where are the African-Americans that call themselves moral? Where are the citizens and the victims of Katrina who's saying you're not going to take what we are and the good we have been? Where are all these people who needs to stand up against all these other looters?"

DOBSON: They don't have a voice, Ken. I mean, but they're out there.

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    • Author by draftedin68 (September 21, 2005 6:12 pm ET)
         

      Besides the sheer idiocy of dragging the courts into the conversation, Hutcherson and Dobson failed to mention a fourth type of looter - the ones gorging on increased profits because, thanks to Duhhbya, they're slashing wages and glomping on to generous new tax cuts.

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      • Author by blueblood (September 21, 2005 6:47 pm ET)
           

        The REAL looters are the firms receiving no-bid contracts to rebuild New Orleans who no longer have to pay their workers the prevailing wage and no longer have to develop affirmative action plans all under the guise of "expiditing" the reconstruction process. Interestingly enough, these same firms got sweetheart deals in Iraq. Do the names Blackwell Security and KBR ring any bells?

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        • Author by lostlogic (September 21, 2005 7:00 pm ET)
             

          The REAL looters are the firms receiving no-bid contracts to rebuild New Orleans who no longer have to pay their workers the prevailing wage…-by blueblood

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          I agree that they should be bidding out these projects and I think they could probably save the tax payers some money if they divided up the work instead of just turning to these large operations to do it all. Prevailing wage is in my opinion not without significant problems. I think many would be surprised at some of the prevailing wages. When you force everyone to pay these wages on government jobs the money to pay these wages comes form the tax payer. Companies who will offer a competitive bid based on what they pay their workers for non prevailing wage jobs have to then hike up the cost to the government(and in turn us) in order to raise their wages to meet this demand.

          I recently worked on a project that required prevailing wage and we had to raise our bid substantially in order to accommodate, what were honestly outrageous fees and guidelines. And in the end who do you think gets stuck with that bill?

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          • Author by DiamondDog (September 22, 2005 12:27 am ET)
               

            Why can't these companies reduce their margins in the interest of helping out the community and the country? Why should the whole burden be on the workers?

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            • Author by losingfaith (September 22, 2005 10:40 am ET)
                 

              "Why can't these companies reduce their margins in the interest of helping out the community and the country?"

              WHAT AN OUTRAGE!!! That'd be antiCapitalist, unPatriotic and unMurkin! These companies need to make outrageous profits or it's just plain communist!

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    • Author by 1428a (September 22, 2005 1:20 am ET)
         

      Dobson solution to anything: join my sect (and please give money).

      Hutcherson has some great propaganda too:

      can you believe and understand, 17 out of 17 states voted against same-sex marriage?

      DOBSON: Mm-hmm.

      HUTCHERSON: Then the courts came along and says, "Your vote is unconstitutional."

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      I guess California's it's own "country" like the People's Republic of Boulder. It doesn't count, apparently.

      California approved it, countrary to what these people were saying, if it was so unpopular , the respective consituents would have said so.

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    • Author by Sagra (September 22, 2005 12:12 pm ET)
         

      Is this guy talking about some actual court case or is he just babbling?

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      • Author by fooled once (September 24, 2005 11:00 am ET)
           

        Is this guy talking about some actual court case or is he just babbling? by Sagra -

        Answer: Babbling.

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    • Author by nerzog (September 22, 2005 1:22 pm ET)
         

      Isn't it amazing how these Conservative robots just keep repeating the talking points? No matter what's going on, they drag the "courts" into it, because that's the GOPs next big agenda item.

      Speaking of looters, watch to see if this story gets any legs: NPR reported yesterday that it's beginning to look like the inflated gas prices may be ARTIFICIAL. Imagine that.

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      • Author by losingfaith (September 23, 2005 10:10 am ET)
           

        Ofcoarse they're artificial. How could the companies feel the proce effects of rigs going down the very next day? Then again, what exactly do they mean by artificial? This is essentially an accepted scenario within supply and demand.

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    • Author by Lynn (September 22, 2005 1:55 pm ET)
         

      Where does Fox find these people. I've never heard of most of them. Their names are not widely known in the community that they and Fox so badly want them to represent. It's pretty amusing. Well he better not screw up or they'll kick him to the curve like they did their boy Armstrong Williams. Williams' is probably working on a book about this as we speak, "I was a love slave for the right wing."

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    • Author by j0hnwi11iams (September 23, 2005 1:58 pm ET)
         

      They must mean like LOOTING the taxpayer with their tax free status when everyone knows they mean BUSINESS.

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