Project 21's Massie on Parshall radio show: Blacks "who curse America are cursing God" because God created slavery to bring them here
On the October 18 edition of the syndicated radio show Janet Parshall's America, Project 21 national advisory council member and columnist for conservative website WorldNetDaily.com Mychal Massie declared to host Janet Parshall that African-American churches today "have succumbed to hatred" and "disobedience to God." Massie went on to proclaim that "the black people today that curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to Muslims, who sold them to Europeans, we would not have what we have today." Parshall praised Massie for his "straight talk" -- the name of a program Massie hosts on the conservative website Rightalk.com -- and called him "brother."
Project 21, which bills itself as a "National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives," is a creation of the conservative think tank National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPPR). NCPPR's executive director, David Almasi, oversees Project 21's daily operations. Almasi, who previously worked for the Reed Irvine-created right-wing group Accuracy in Academia, employs spokesmen from a "variety of careers" throughout the country to promote Project 21's agenda through the media, academia, government, and business communities. Roll Call reported on October 19 that Jack Abramoff, a former NCPPR board member, used the organization to funnel $25,000 he received in lobbying fees from an Internet gaming company "to pay for foreign trips for Members of Congress and staff." Roll Call noted, as did The Washington Post, that this money was used to help fund a May 2000 golfing trip to St. Andrews, Scotland, that included former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX).
From the October 18 broadcast of Salem Radio Network's Janet Parshall's America:
MASSIE: There's a reason that the black family is in the state of destruction that it is today. At the close of the civil rights era -- and I submit that the civil rights battle has been won. It is over. Black people can do anything they want to do. There is no restrictions, apart from those that are self-imposed.
PARSHALL: Mm-hmm.
MASSIE: At the close of Jim Crow, at that closing of that civil rights era, of those battles, the black family -- 87 percent of black households were two-parent married families. Eighty-seven percent. Forty percent of the black households were business owners. Forty percent.
PARSHALL: Wow.
MASSIE: And, in 40 years, we have 90 percent black-on-black crime. Seventy -- a high 70 percent, near 80 percent, black illegitimacy. We have, in 40 short years, 10,000-plus children born in Philadelphia in 2001, 9,700 and change black abortions. We have three out of every five black pregnancies ending in abortion. Now, how did we go from a period of Duke Ellington to a period of Tupac Shakur?
PARSHALL: Mmm.
MASSIE: How did we go from Nat King Cole to a 50 Cent, or Mystikal, or a Snoop Dogg? How did we go from dignity and honor and an impetus -- an importance placed on education to a thuggery? Rap and what we see today, you can't even call that gangster rap.
PARSHALL: Mmm.
MASSIE: Because the gangsters -- and I'm not going to ask you to date yourself, but I'll date myself -- I remember the gangsters being those that were meticulously dressed, that wore the finest of shoes and set the fashion trends. These things today are street trash --
PARSHALL: Mmm.
MASSIE: -- that have drug the family down, and the church, and Janet, I will go on record and I will not win any popularity awards, but it is the fault of the black church and the black community because the preachers have succumbed to hatred; they have succumbed to a disobedience to God. There is a parallel that I think needs to be pointed out. Had Joseph not been kidnapped and sold into slavery, he would not have been in a position to help his family in their time of need.
PARSHALL: Hmmm. Wow.
MASSIE: The black people today who curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to the Muslims, who sold them to the Europeans, we would not have what we have today.
PARSHALL: Mychal, thank you very much. There is a reason why you host a program called Straight Talk, because you just gave it to us. God bless you, brother, appreciate you very much. We'll take a break, folks, and come right back.
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Remember those "This is your brain on drugs" ads on TV?
Well, "This is Massie's brain on fundy Christianity." Fried.
I have no idea who this guy is and he may say nutty things, but his views on black on black crime, fatherless household, etc are very real problems in the black community. They are rarely, if ever, addressed by the so-called black liberal leaders in this country - who love to play the race card as the reason for all the problems.
It's about time the real issues were discussed and examined, head on.
One thing they don't have is enough good role models. When young blacks see and hear other blacks rapping about sex, drugs, guns and crime while standing on the hood of their custom SUV with chrome spinners, it makes an unfortunate impression to them that these are the ingredients for the American Dream.
I agree with you to a point that the likes of Jackson and Sharpton can be photo opportunists. But when you consider the image that some black musicians are portraying, these guys are the least of the black community's problems.
pete592,
Well said.
When young blacks see and hear other blacks rapping about sex, drugs, guns and crime while standing on the hood of their custom SUV with chrome spinners, it makes an unfortunate impression to them that these are the ingredients for the American Dream.
Yes, because white kids are listening to Mozart all day.
Our culture went down the path of consumerism and materialism long before the first rapper picked up his mike. The message that today's American Dream is all about getting rich quick and to hell with the rest of society comes straight from the top, so let's not confuse the symptoms with the disease itself.
You confused me with someone who thinks there's nothing wrong with white America.
Continually stating the term "the race card" is how you guys play the race card. You and people like you either refuse to see or you're indifferent to the fact that in this country color can have a significant impact on a persons life. That said I encourage all to work with the cards life dealt you and do the very best you can within a system that can be very ‘uneven’. And again I thank our "so called Liberal leaders" those living and dead for fighting the battle that made life so much better for me than it had been for my parents and grandparents. I am so greatful they had the courage to risk their lives to obtain the rights that many in my community take for granted.
You and people like you either refuse to see or you're indifferent to the fact that in this country color can have a significant impact on a persons life.
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Lynn, You are mistaken, sadly. It isn't so much that we are indifferent to a person's color and it's affect on one's life, as you put it - but rather you and people like you are obsessed with it, using it as an excuse for failure and blaming one's color on all their problems.
You and people like you either refuse to see or you're indifferent to the fact that in this country color can have a significant impact on a persons life.
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And by the way Lynn, what other country and it's policies are less racist than America?
I can't answer that question and it isn't even an important one to me. Tommy I am an American and I have no intent on living any place else; but I do intend to make sure this country lives up to the American principles that are avowed in the constitution and I think that makes me a very very good American. Don’t you agree?
I agree Lynn, I didn't ask you to move anywhere else. For all it's faults, I believe this country is the least racist on earth......but don't tell the Jesse Jacksons, or Al Sharptons. What would they live off of?
I agree Lynn, I didn't ask you to move anywhere else. For all it's faults, I believe this country is the least racist on earth......but don't tell the Jesse Jacksons, or Al Sharptons. What would they live off of?
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Don't forget to include the GOP in your "don't tell" list. They've been living off of racism for a long time now.
Don't forget to include the GOP in your "don't tell" list. They've been living off of racism for a long time now.
by rjc - Thursday October 20, 2005 08:55:19 PM EST
Really, how so?
They've encouraged and exploited racial divisions in the electorate for years. This started with the civil rights movement and the subsequent civil rights legislation; and this was pre any official affirmative action policies I might add. Blacks protested for legal protection of their rights and White Southerners en mass ran to the Republican Party in protest of Blacks obtaining what the US constitution mandated for all citizens. Yippee you’re a smart guy and I know you know this. In my opinion this Republican history is the greatest impediment to Republicans garnering support from the AA community. They've moved a long way from Abe Lincoln's Republican Party which was the progressive party of it's time.
The RNC head just admitted a couple months ago they used the Southern Strategy for decades, and it was wrong of them to do. Try and keep up.
You are either fatuous or just naive. Either way, it is called the "Southern Strategy".
Not that it's easy to measure such a matter as racial tolerance, both in policy and results, but what about Britain, Canada, Brazil?
I'm not so much challenging the idea as I am asking. Being a bi-racial Canadian and having faced little to no difficulties with respect to my parentage, I'm curious as to how something as complicated as racial policy could be measured.
"And by the way Lynn, what other country and it's policies are less racist than America?" --tommy
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Cuba is sometimes cited as having less racist policies than the US. Racism has been illegal in Cuba since the Revolution in 1959 from what I can find. Here is a nuanced quote from the wikipedia:
"Nevertheless, and despite the egalitarian project of the Cuban revolution, racial discrimination still exits(sic) in Cuba, though arguably less so than in most other countries of the Americas, including the United States.While institutionalized racism is illegal, some who lived before 1959 still harbor certain resentments towards those persons of color."
open_mind,
Are you absolutely serious in heralding Cuba here? You are joking?, please. That is the best you can come up with? Wow, try telling that to the people who risk their lives everyday trying to escape to Florida in a boat.
What do I need to be here for?, trying to make conservative and logical points when views like this are thrown up here to make my arguments all the more solid?
I posted the question you were asking about whether any countries had less racist policies than our own. Sorry for answering that question. I didn't realize you weren't interested in reading a response. My bad.
I don't see where I was heralding Cuba either. I just answered the question. You read much more into my response than what I put there. I should have expected your usual dishonesty.
Despite Cuba's obvious problems that you have touched on, it appears they have less of a problem with racism in the policies of their government. I believe that was the question.
Let me know when you are ready to make a logical post so I can take the necessary precautions and brace myself.
open_mind,
It wasn't hard to make the connection I did from your post - less racist means more desirable, is that what you meant? Because, if not - please clarify.
"It wasn't hard to make the connection I did from your post - less racist means more desirable, is that what you meant? Because, if not - please clarify." --Tommy
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To clarify: Of course, I do not prefer life in Cuba to life in the US. I was just answering the question as to a comparisson on the specific issue you mentioned.
Some countries do specific things better than we do. We can't always be number one at everything. It doesn't make the other country entirely better, just better on those certain things. Maybe we can learn from them or maybe we think we have a better long-term approach to the problem.
I personally am very happy that even most modern conservatives reject overt racism. We still have a ways to go, but we have made substantial improvement over the days of forced segregation.
open_mind,
The point I was making was this constant charge by some that institutionalized racism in this country is the biggest problem facing minorities today. I do not believe that is the case, while of course, there are racists among us, there are so many more crucial and pressing issues facing blacks today...as in black on black crime, fatherless households, etc.
To dismiss this as some sort of Republican talking point and steer the focus back to racism is done by those that don't want to take responsibility for their own life, but rather blame something or someone else. It allows them not to examine their own choices, moral and otherwise, but play the victim and say "it's not my fault, this country is racist"
Tommy,
How old are you? Sometimes you speak Geezer too.
Lynn,
Your question is irrelevant and I don't even know what your geezer reference is? As if I care????
Geezer
"Geezer" Lynn
according to my Ebonics dictionary Geezer means Respected Elder.
That's funny, it means almost the same thing in English. Huh? Do you think Lynn is writing in Ebonics? Do you have to run everything Lynn types through your handy-dandy Ebonics-English translator in order to comprehend it? LOL
Open, you know I have a comprehension problem. Especially on Friday afternoons. Cheers! I hope everyone is enjoying the festive monthlong Octoberfest as much as I am.
Okay, libby. Just giving you a hard time. You know me.
Open, I always enjoy taking a good shot...... verbal or alcohol
You're making that up; I think the term you mean is "Old School". It's usually a term of endearment the hip hop crowd uses for elderly men particularly.
The term geezer was in reference to a post I made further down the string"
"".... Reminds me of the older men in my family, at some point they all just start speaking geezer and they think they know the answers to everything."
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Geezers cantankerously espouse there overly simplistic solutions for all the world’s ills to any listener. .
Lynn,
Thanks, then I take the term geezer as a compliment. If more people spoke in black and white, good vs evil, and right vs. wrong, more often in simpler terms - the world and it's people would be much better off and not so muddled down in political correctness and gray areas.
That's priceless. A real keeper. Thanks.
"Thanks, then I take the term geezer as a compliment. If more people spoke in black and white, good vs evil, and right vs. wrong, more often in simpler terms - the world and it's people would be much better off and not so muddled down in political correctness and gray areas." --tommy
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Osama raises his glass of kool-aide. "Cheers."
No wouldn't it would be just what we have now under this president with a geezer mentality, total chaos and confusion.
"Geezers cantankerously espouse there overly simplistic solutions for all the world’s ills to any listener." --Lynn
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Seems like the English definition to me. Why would anyone assume it's Ebonics of all things? Why not Jive? Hmmm. LOL
How am I obsessed with it Tommy, what are you basing your assessment on?
Ok Lynn,
Maybe obsessed was too strong a word - how about overly focused, or too much emphasis, or put more of your attention on real problems that affect the black community to improve everyone's lives - instead of saying that racism is the major, number one problem facing the AA community, which I think you do not believe is, if you are honest.
Tommy,
The manifestation of 21st century racism is mostly an annoyance compared to what my parents and grandparents had to contend with. At 47 years old I am slowly but surely moving into the ranks of the 'village elders". Any young person I come into contact with gets the same lecture. Yes I know it's tough but it makes success so much more sweeter when you obtain it, if you know what I mean.
I meant to say it makes success much sweeter. God I made a Bushism. I won't laugh at anything he says today. Although his statement about wanting to do "the job much more better" was funny.
"but his views on black on black crime, fatherless household, etc are very real problems in the black community. They are rarely, if ever, addressed by the so-called black liberal leaders in this country - who love to play the race card as the reason for all the problems."
Hilarious.
Since I know you are serious about this comment I can only guess that this is a talking point you have heard over and over again from conservatives and now have made it your own.
Since I know you are serious about this comment I can only guess that this is a talking point you have heard over and over again from conservatives and now have made it your own.
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Why don't you address the content of the statement and offer up a dispute if you are able, instead of dismissing as a talking point - if you can't argue the point made, then just say so.
Tommy,
I'll argue the point. The problems you love to highlight are discussed all the time in private among AA Leadership and their constituents. Right or wrong we have always been very sensitive of airing dirty laundry because of the propensity for those issues to be exploited against our own best interests. Remember the recent visits from the racists during the Bennett discussions. Nevertheless, these issues are addressed continually in Black publications through articles and editorials by the Black intelligentsia, columnists and just regular Black folk. I will guess that you probably aren't familiar with these publications so you aren’t privy to these ongoing discussions. In the November issue of Ebony for instance there are special articles by prominent AA politicians, civil rights leaders, business folk, and people from the entertainment industry . It's Ebony's sixtieth anniversary. Essence a Black women’s magazine addresses these issues in almost every issue as does Jet Magazine a weekly publication. There are also AA newspapers. In my neck of the woods our newspaper is the Afro American. .
MASSIE: The black people today who curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to the Muslims, who sold them to the Europeans, we would not have what we have today.
And, according to Massie, what we have today is:
MASSIE: And, in 40 years, we have 90 percent black-on-black crime. Seventy -- a high 70 percent, near 80 percent, black illegitimacy. We have, in 40 short years, 10,000-plus children born in Philadelphia in 2001, 9,700 and change black abortions. We have three out of every five black pregnancies ending in abortion. Now, how did we go from a period of Duke Ellington to a period of Tupac Shakur?
I can't believe they would curse that!
*snerk* Excellent catch, Phreak.
It's also odd that he uses monogamy as a measuring stick.
Now I've heard everything. A man of color giving praise and thanks for the slave trade.
If any of his ancestors were among those who were abducted, shackled, chained in the bowels of a crowded ship, and forced into servitude if they survived the journey. What they say?
"If any of his ancestors were among those who were abducted, shackled, chained in the bowels of a crowded ship, and forced into servitude if they survived the journey. What they say?" --pete592
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Ummm...Thanks Jesus?
Keep in mind, the Republicans have been caught time and again secretly paying off mouths-and-pens-for-hire ... of every color and gender ... to promote the Rightwing agenda.
This guy may just be getting paid to do a job of work, and he's not a "slave" to ideology when it comes to a buck.
Yep. This falls right in line with the "immoral poor" rhetoric we've been hearing around here lately from our compassionate conservative comrades. See, this way, they can keep their millionaire tax cuts, erase social welfare programs to pay for hurricane damage, and not lose a wink of sleep. After all, the people who depend on those programs are morally "inferior" and hate God, so, we don't have to worry about them.
I went back and searched the links. As I expected these groups are financed by the money conservatives. The strategy is to promote Black conservatives in hopes that they can help peel away the strong support for Democrats by the AA community. It isn't working very well so they aren't getting much bang for the buck. I've never heard of this guy, but the more well known Black conservative mouth pieces are not viewed very favorably in the AA community.
I read a very interesting sociologic study that was conducted by a conservative think tank. They feel that conservatives might be able to connect with the older AA community because they are usually church going and conservative on social issues. The report sited two very big obstacles to this. Although these older church going AA's held pastors in very high esteem, they also viewed civil rights leaders and AA politicians favorably as well. The biggest problem for them however seemed to be that the offspring of these people were better educated and there was a correlation between education level and AAs being liberal. In other words, in the study the more educated the Blacks were the more likely they were to self identified as politically Liberal or Progressive. That coupled with the fact that these church going elders rely heavily on their offspring to explain political issues to them directly impacts the voting patterns of the segment of the AA community. Maybe the plan is to pit their kids against crazy ministers like this.
I can even think of something to say that is assine enough to match this.
What certain fringe elements of the right have done to promote their racist beliefs is to have black people say what they think for them. That way the racist GOP members do not get shunned for saying what they believe because a black man/woman says it.
Absolutely correct.
If we were to close are eyes and guess what nationality Massie was, you would not come away with a image of a proud Black man. His tone, speech, and comments actually have a history in the US. Massie's kind were known as accommodates to the slave masters and in 2005 have evolved to be a modern day reflection of their fore fathers. Does the name Uncle Tom sound familiar? I call today's Uncle Toms a distorted version of this dynamic of putting your nationality down to get favor from the oppressors that seek to keep a minority race in a lower class. It's distorted because we are not in slavery anymore and just like they say Blacks won't move beyond the slavery issue, he will not move beyond the "I am just like the slave masters" role. A sort of Uncle Tom 2000, complete with a group of whites ready to take him in as intelligent and worth hearing. If you think he's mixed up, just think what this man goes through when he's faced with the fact that he's still the very thing he puts down: Black
Joseph
It's amazing what people will say when they have powerful people throwing money at them. That's what it all comes down to. It's why you have people like Ann Coulter and Armstrong Williams out there. They're being paid a lot of money to serve as cheerleaders for people that actually work against the best interests of people like them. I don't think it's so much self-hatred as it is pure selfishness.
If God wanted them over here, why didn't he just miracle them across the ocean? Seems like that would have been much more efficient.
Scum like Massie are no different that the Holocaust deniers. I think it is more indicative of the hate that exists on the right that this moral degenerate gets any TV time at all!
Tommy, spin your story all you want but you are nothing but a racist, plain and simple!
ModerateOne,
You have no clue what you are talking about throwing out your bogus racist charge at me. I wouldn't even bother defending it because it gives dignity to the charge, and even you don't deserve that.
Before calling anyone a racist, better look at your own hateful motives.
What RNC talking point is that?
I suppose you believe the KKK and Aryan Nation are just peaceful groups excersizing free speech right? ...... This just in, the civil war is over and YOU LOST!!!!!!
ModerateOne, I just read through this thread to see WHY you wrote the following to tommy:
"Tommy, spin your story all you want but you are nothing but a racist, plain and simple!"...by ModerateOne
"I suppose you believe the KKK and Aryan Nation are just peaceful groups exercising free speech right? ...... This just in, the civil war is over and YOU LOST!!!!!!"...by ModerateOne
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I found NOTHING tommy wrote that should have evoked THIS kind of irresponsible response from you. In fact he raised several interesting points that in NO way were disrespectful. And he certainly didn't DESERVE to be attacked.
BTW "Free Speech" no matter how VILE is protected by the First Amendment...and YOU can THANK the ACLU for making sure the KKK&Aryan Nation are NEVER denied those RIGHTS.
Instead of hurling UNJUSTIFIED charges of racism at people WHY not TRY debating the issue...or is that the problem?...YOU aren't capable of arguing your own point of view WITHOUT mudslinging.
Pathetic.
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Oh BTW moderateone YOU might want to read the following:
4 entries found for moderate.
mod·er·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mdr-t) adj.
Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme: a moderate price.
Not violent or subject to extremes; mild or calm; temperate: a moderate climate.
Of medium or average quantity or extent.
Of limited or average quality; mediocre.
Opposed to radical or extreme views or measures, especially in politics or religion.
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Maybe you need a name change...OR better yet...an ATTITUDE change.
Thanks jeter2,
But ModerateOne threw out his drive by charge and then went into hiding.......but agree, he should change his name as it hardly fits.
Come to think of it, open_mind may want to rethink his as well, at least lately......
Tommy should consider changing his name to dishonesty. Most here have already spared him the trouble by making the unconscious association already.
In case anyone is unfamilar with what an Uncle Tom is, look no further than Massie. Last name derived from "yes massa please!"
In case anyone is wondering where this "blame the poor" rhetoric originated, I found an interesting article about Gilded Age politics. (1868-1897)
>"Further, they believed that poverty was a punishment for laziness or vice or both. Put another way, they believed that rewards went to those who deserved them [ignoring inherited wealth or stealing, of course]. If there were difficulties or suffering, then these were spurs to greater effort. This was the American Way and efforts to aid the poor or the suffering was foolish and immoral. It was better that they should die so that the fitter would live. This was the law of the jungle—eat or be eaten. Some said it was the Divine Plan; others said it was biology. And these views were taught and preached and spread by word of mouth. After all, this was America and everyone could and should get rich."
Sound familiar?
[link to historicaltextarchive.com]
Extremely interesting, thanks for sharing.
Exactly, repress the poor in every possible way then tell them their problems are their own fault and giving them less is for their own good. These selfish pigs are disgusting!
This is what happens when STUPID people listen to Bill Cosby.
Bill reminds me of the older men in my family, at some point they all just start speaking geezer and they think they know the answers to everything. That's Bill's problem, it isnt what he's saying. It's how he says it and the forums he chooses to say it. Geezers have all of these overly simplistic solutions for very complicated problems. I have a 78 year old uncle who is confident he has the answer to resolove the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, which is "they need Jesus".
just think how much farther along blacks would be if they hadn't been dragged over here as slaves !!! look at the blacks in the U.K. they are not the underclass there.
just think how much farther along blacks would be if they hadn't been dragged over here as slaves !!! look at the blacks in the U.K. they are not the underclass there. Atheist
No they saved that for the Indians and Middle easterners.
I cannot believe that I am supposed to thank God for being a by-product of 200 years of enslavement, to which the country that I live in still benefits from and never paid for (even though that is what the original reparations of 40 acres and mule was for)! I mean, dang, can I at least get a formal apology on the behalf of my ancestors?
I know one thing, I will thank God for keeping me from slapping the mess ouf of the people that want to touch my kinky hair and comparing their vacation tan to my skin color. Alas, I digress before someone claims that I am playing the "race card".